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[14:17:08] <Ingar> trick question: does my Cat 5E wired ethernet support VLAN?
[14:18:02] <fab23> Ingar: sure, that does not depend on the physical layer, the switches need to be able in doing it
[14:18:25] * Ingar pulls fab23;s leg
[14:18:42] <fab23> oh no
[14:19:51] <Ingar> fab23: my wifi can do multiple SSIDs on different VLANs
[14:19:59] <Ingar> *my wifi AP, that is
[14:20:03] <fab23> Ingar: mine too
[14:20:10] <Ingar> and I do have a managed switch
[14:20:30] <Ingar> fab23: I want a decent guest wifi
[14:20:35] <Ingar> seems like the way to go
[14:21:18] <Ingar> how messing with FreeBSD kicked me in the but to brush up on modern network infrastructure
[14:21:37] <fab23> Ingar: this will work with the equipment you have, a 1 Gbit/s Ethernet cable does not care if the packets going through do have a VLAN tag or not
[14:22:48] <fab23> The cable even does not care about proper ethernet frames, only the devices on each end do
[14:22:49] <Ingar> yeah but the extra bits in the ethernet frame might cause extra load on the cables!
[14:22:56] <fab23> nono
[14:23:35] <fab23> Ethernet packets usualy are 1500 bytes, but can go up to 9000+ bytes (Jumbo Frames)
[14:23:35] <Ingar> replacing the cable is for when I renew the electricity
[14:23:52] <Ingar> I'd like 2.5G LAN and somd 10G lines
[14:25:23] <Ingar> and a WIFI AP on each side of the house
[14:25:37] <fab23> you may have to check the specs, but depending on cable length Cat 5E may still be fine
[14:26:23] <Ingar> as I recall, it was even just below spec for 1Gb
[14:27:18] <fab23> no, I do run Cat 5e over a I think 20m cable with 1 Gbit/s without issues
[14:28:06] <Ingar> ah indeed the spec says Cat 5E should do 1Gbps up to 100m
[14:30:49] <fab23> Ingar: based on https://en.wikipedia.org 5e is fine for 2.5 Gbit/s
[14:31:46] <Ingar> so, test and see
[14:32:01] <Ingar> oh well, that is future anyway, but it is nice to dream ahead ;-)
[14:34:59] <fab23> I do know people who have 10 and even 25 Gbit/s Internet at home, but I am happy enough with 1 Gbit/s
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[18:30:19] <AlwaysNever> I have 100 Mbits/s ethernet at home, serves me well; in Internet FTTH is 600 Mbits/s symetric; but my LAN was here first!
[18:31:11] <AlwaysNever> all it would take is to replace the ethernet switch, but I cannot be bothered
[23:46:55] <chromas> Can you downgrade your fiber to something slower to save a buck?