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[00:00:25] <ted-ious> If this is supposed to be donald trump's new george floyd movement they are really starting it off with some poor performances.
[00:01:51] <ted-ious> I have looked at every frame where the alleged sarah's face is visible and although the camera work is terrible I can't find any frame that looks like she has tearing eyes or a runny nose.
[00:02:35] <ted-ious> So she's not a good enough actress to cry on demand and she lied about gas.
[00:04:52] <ted-ious> She doesn't look at the camera which is professional but she also doesn't bother making eye contact with anybody she's responding to which is bizarre behavior for someone desperate to save their husband.
[00:06:29] <ted-ious> There's a few frames after 3:15.6 where I thought she drooled which would have been almost as convincing but it turned out to be a lighting effect. :)
[00:46:39] <Runaway1956> Which vid you talking about ted-ious May I have a link?
[00:52:07] <Runaway1956> Oh, this one? https://x.com I watched it, can't see it very well, maybe I download it and watch in VLC
[00:59:50] <Runaway1956> 720p just isn't good enough, even in full screen, for me to see what you pointed out. Her eyes look dark, almost black eyes, but I can't see any more detail than that.
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[01:54:49] <AlwaysNever> Runaway1956: "Enforcement isn't going to end". That's good to know. Nothing I hate more that circus sessions stoping too early
[01:57:42] <AlwaysNever> I expect much more, I hope I'm not let down by Donaldo Trumpo
[06:55:36] <c0lo> Risky business exercising your 2nd, ain't it, Runaway1956? Better let the guns home, you may run into an ice patch
[06:55:36] <c0lo> https://www.abc.net.au
[06:55:42] <systemd> ^ 03A second person has been shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis. Here's what we know - ABC News
[07:18:01] <chromas> As second shooter has hit the building
[07:31:31] <c0lo> Guess who is meant to ensure the security of the FIFA games in US this year?
[07:31:59] <chromas> John Fifa
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[17:06:32] <AlwaysNever> It has come to my attention that one of the circus' ringmaster has an official Twitter to bait triggered Americans with: https://x.com
[17:06:46] <AlwaysNever> I really KNEW it could get even better
[17:07:13] <AlwaysNever> Some nice article about Bovine, the circus ringmaster: ttp://lite.cnn.com
[17:08:07] <AlwaysNever> ups, URL broken, here it is in full: http://lite.cnn.com (an interesting read for sure)
[17:08:08] <systemd> ^ 03Gregory Bovino: How he became the face of Trump’s immigration crackdown ( https://lite.cnn.com )
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[20:10:31] <Runaway> Saint Bovino is doing an excellent job.
[20:18:44] <Runaway> https://x.com
[20:19:20] <Runaway> That is not a phone in his right hand.
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[20:24:10] <chromas> I saw another post somewhere detailing the gun he had on him
[20:24:47] <chromas> and of course comments claiming he didn't pull it out and/or one of the cops pulled it out
[20:26:20] <ted-ious> I want to know why the fat guy in the carhart jacket just stands there calmly while almost 10 gunshots happen within 10 feet of him.
[20:26:55] <fab23> chromas: I guess you may have seen this? https://edition.cnn.com
[20:26:58] <systemd> ^ 03CNN video analysis sheds new light on killing of Alex Pretti
[20:27:34] <chromas> nope
[20:29:53] <chromas> oh I see. the guy carrying the gun in that clip isn't the guy they killed; he's one of the feds
[20:32:11] <chromas> so the guy had a gun setup that you wouldn't carry around for self-defense, it was already cocked, and it fired when the cop took it away
[20:33:01] <chromas> https://x.com
[20:33:11] <ted-ious> I'm pretty sure almost everybody who carries a handgun profesionally does it with it loaded and cocked.
[20:33:30] <ted-ious> So I don't think that's proof of any bad intentions.
[20:33:40] <chromas> his profession was being a nurse, they say
[20:34:04] <ted-ious> Right but nurses are allowed to carry the same guns in the same way.
[20:34:18] <chromas> I don't know if carrying a gun to a protest is part of that profession but they are in a different state than I
[20:34:34] <ted-ious> Like it doesn't make him a terrorist just because he was carrying his gun loaded.
[20:34:56] <ted-ious> Right I'm not saying that bringing a gun to a protest is a good idea either.
[20:35:15] <ted-ious> And also I think calling what he was doing protesting is cheating too.
[20:35:43] <ted-ious> He planned ahead and went to where ice was to disrupt them.
[20:36:07] <chromas> like Mz McGoodening
[20:36:24] <ted-ious> Lives would be saved if ice just started arresting every person who showed up to interfere with their operations.
[20:37:29] <ted-ious> If you went to an international airport and tried to interfere with a customs agent you'd get arrested immediately.
[20:38:44] <chromas> I heard the correct thing to do at the airport is to transfer a briefcase full of cash
[20:40:04] <ted-ious> Or meet with the attorney general in a private plane.
[20:40:18] <ted-ious> While your being investigated.
[20:42:33] <ted-ious> I am getting to the point where I'm ready to call my congressman and start demanding that people get fired.
[20:43:03] <ted-ious> Have you seen how bad the grammar and punctuation is in some of these official tweets?
[21:38:16] <Runaway> This is the video that explains all - https://x.com
[21:38:33] <AlwaysNever> I've run out of Doritos, AGAIN.
[21:38:52] <Runaway> That weapon is notorious for unintended discharges, and as the officer walks away with it, it discharges.
[21:39:19] <Runaway> Everyone standing around thought the rioter was shooting, and reacted.
[21:40:01] <AlwaysNever> please, let's stick with the official narrative: a domestic terrorist was threatening the live of glorious Law Enforcement, and he was conveniently put down AS GOD INTENDED
[21:40:41] <Runaway> That narrative is fine with me, but that unintended discharge is the final piece of the puzzle.
[21:40:57] <AlwaysNever> Lovely
[21:41:11] <Runaway> Lesson learned: I won't carry a cheap ass gun with me when I go to a riot.
[21:41:36] <AlwaysNever> Lesson learned: when in fascist country, don't show oposition
[21:42:48] <AlwaysNever> it looks like many Americans haven't yet got the memo on "what" is going on
[21:44:16] <Runaway> I know exactly what is going on. The real fascists are attacking ICE agents who are enforcing the law.
[21:44:52] <AlwaysNever> of course, I mean exactly that, far from me to oppose that view, of course
[21:45:40] <Runaway> A lot of people oppose that point of view, but when you get down to brass tacks, every recent president including Obama has deported more illegal aliens than Trump has.
[21:46:04] <Runaway> Trump Disorder Syndrome says Trump is evil, so here we are.
[21:46:43] <AlwaysNever> Obama didn't send brigades or Racial Police to roam the streets, but I might be wrong
[21:47:37] <Runaway> What a crock. Have you seen that a large number of ICE agents are black and/or Hispanic? There are no race police.
[21:48:30] <AlwaysNever> tell that to the Navajo Natives being targeted
[21:48:58] <Runaway> If CNN said that was so, then it must be so.
[21:49:24] <AlwaysNever> of course, it was not, see, I'm not opposing
[22:07:46] <ted-ious> AlwaysNever: Aren't you spanish or portuguese?
[22:09:20] <ted-ious> I thought spanish but I appreciate that portuguese are quite different so no offense intended.
[22:26:33] <AlwaysNever> I'm Spanish, and I don't think Portuguese are any different, except they talk weird and I cannot undestand them unless they speak slowly
[22:29:43] <ted-ious> Oh ok well I suggest you don't say that to any portuguese people directly.
[22:30:21] <ted-ious> The ones I have met were quite adamant that they were not spanish so they must have some reason for their strong identity.
[22:30:49] <AlwaysNever> lol, they called themselves "our Iberian brothers", there is even a political movement in Portugal aiming to unite with Spain
[22:31:19] <ted-ious> And yet the catalans don't want to have anything to do with the rest of you.
[22:31:24] <AlwaysNever> when in USA, nobody wants to be identified as Spanish/Mexican and face the racism that it would entail
[22:31:31] <ted-ious> Nationalities are complicated.
[22:31:46] <ted-ious> What are you talking about?
[22:33:08] <AlwaysNever> USA racism, it that new to you?
[22:33:37] <ted-ious> In southern states you can find plenty of people who will insist that they are mexican american and just as easily find those who will insist that they are still completely mexican even though their family has lived in texas for 100 years.
[22:33:50] <ted-ious> I'm guessing you've never actually been to the usa?
[22:34:57] <ted-ious> I haven't spent much time in nevada but I believe it is roughly the same as texas arizona and southern california.
[22:35:17] <chromas> it's so horribly racis here that people keep trying to get in
[22:36:35] <ted-ious> I wish I could say I don't understand why white people feel the need to crap on other white people just because they don't hate their own people.
[22:37:05] <ted-ious> But I grew up democrat so I know exactly where it comes from at least in americans.
[22:38:06] <chromas> your fellow 'white' people
[22:38:08] <ted-ious> What I don't understand is why a spaniard feels the need to crap on white americans many of whom would be indistinguishable from his own neighbors if they weren't speaking.
[22:38:58] <chromas> perhaps he was one of the women holding those "refugees welcome" signs
[22:39:04] <AlwaysNever> I'm no craping on "white americans", I calling out a fascist modus operandi
[22:39:23] <ted-ious> I also can't think of a single spanish person I've ever come across in america who experienced what AlwaysNever would call racism.
[22:40:47] <AlwaysNever> I didn't experience any racism in USA either, because I am 100% europeran in ascendency, but I saw racism in USA directed to others, in a quite shocking and casual way
[22:41:15] <ted-ious> Every time I see the word fascist I now assume that the person using it doesn't know what they are taking about and are just reaching for the biggest insult they can find without having to think.
[22:41:34] <ted-ious> Oh so you have been to the usa?
[22:42:57] <AlwaysNever> yeah, several times, I've visitd NY, Boston, and North Carolina
[22:43:23] <ted-ious> Oh where in north carolina?
[22:43:42] <AlwaysNever> Couldn't say, it was a beach location for vacationing
[22:46:28] <ted-ious> Oh so that nearest city could be greenville away from the beach or one of the many tourist spots right on the coast.
[22:47:20] <ted-ious> Too many to name but in general I would not consider any of them centers of racial tension.
[22:47:51] <AlwaysNever> I stayed in a kind of beach-village for summer turists, the people I was with were very much into the beach thing and not in the cultural errands around
[22:47:55] <ted-ious> Except maybe during spring break when they are flooded with tourists.
[22:48:30] <ted-ious> Then every local becomes very racist against everybody they consider invaders.
[22:48:51] <ted-ious> Which is everybody regardless of something like their skin.
[22:49:07] <chromas> happens in every country where there are tourists too
[22:49:37] <ted-ious> And having been both kinds of person at different times in my life I can say it is completely justified. :)
[22:49:43] <AlwaysNever> I know North Carolina has a "fame" regarding racil issued, but there I saw nothing of that, because of the setting I was in, I suppose - I saw racism in NY, however
[22:49:59] <ted-ious> Of course you did.
[22:50:09] <ted-ious> New york is hell on earth.
[22:51:11] <chromas> even hollywood knows it; that's why they blow it up in so many movies
[22:51:15] <ted-ious> It's a perfect laboratory experiment of what happens when you put different people right on top of each other and then add an average amount of government corruption in between.
[22:53:18] <AlwaysNever> Speaking of fascism, one thing it does very well is the National Subject Control, usually by means of Mandatory State-issued Identification ID, which coming from 40 years of Franco's we do have in Spain, and without which ID you cannot vote
[22:53:42] <ted-ious> AlwaysNever: I suppose you saw how white people said mean things about black people and used that to judge america as racist?
[22:54:26] <AlwaysNever> I don't say "America is racist", I say America has problem with the race issue
[22:54:37] <AlwaysNever> and there are certainly very racist people
[22:55:07] <ted-ious> Every country that lets other people come in has a problem with the race issue.
[22:55:11] <chromas> Nothing wrong with that
[22:57:12] <ted-ious> So you won't say that the white people in new york were racist but I bet if you had a few days and a few drinks with the democrats in my family and got to trust them you'd admit that's exactly how you think because they do too.
[22:58:59] <ted-ious> I bet you don't know what wildin is because you've never experienced it but you know what sorts of kids to avoid around central park after dark just the same.
[23:00:20] <AlwaysNever> it's a class/race issue, if the cultural innertia is to keep down those of a race, those of that race will be dirt poor forever
[23:00:23] <chromas> He probably hasn't seen World Star
[23:01:02] <ted-ious> So you haven't experienced wildin in new york and yet you presume to judge new yorkers for their attitudes.
[23:02:16] <ted-ious> You have no idea what it's like to be out on the street and suddenly 50 or 100 black teenage boys come pouring down the street yelling and knocking people over and stealing their valuables and sometimes much worse.
[23:03:07] <ted-ious> You're a classic example of why I couldn't bring myself to respect most of the democrats I grew up around even those I was related to.
[23:03:30] <ted-ious> You presume to judge people even though you know absolutely nothing of their circumstances.
[23:03:57] <AlwaysNever> ted-ious: I think you are projecting on me things which are in your mind and which I haven't said
[23:05:02] <AlwaysNever> Vandalic gangs of blacks are vandalic gangs of blaks, and brigades of roaming Racial Police, are brigades of roaming Racial Police - both things are real, and the first does not cancel the second
[23:05:04] <ted-ious> If you bothered to have uncomfortable conversations with some of those white new yorkers you were looking down your nose at you would have found that very few of them didn't know at least one person who had been robbed or assaulted or even raped by somebody from a different race.
[23:05:45] <ted-ious> There are no racial police in the united states and you know it.
[23:06:26] <ted-ious> If there were we wouldn't have such insane levels of inter-racial crime.
[23:07:09] <AlwaysNever> the people I stayed with in NY and Boston were not racists at all, the were very charming and friendly, I have great memories and still keep contact with them, I didn't "look down them", the racism I saw was a more kind of "structural kind" of thing
[23:07:12] <ted-ious> You obviously don't know anything about the reality of life in the united states but you presume to judge us from a position of ignorance.
[23:07:26] <ted-ious> LOL
[23:07:43] <ted-ious> Bro you should do better at hiding your marxist priors.
[23:08:15] <ted-ious> You are supposed to use what you learn from those books but not the actual phrases. :)
[23:08:24] <ted-ious> They are a dead give away.
[23:08:40] <AlwaysNever> "my marxist priors", are you mad?
[23:08:42] <AlwaysNever> LOL
[23:08:59] <ted-ious> It takes one to spot one. :)
[23:09:41] <AlwaysNever> there is an undercurrent of strutctural racism in how USA is organized, is that false?
[23:09:58] <ted-ious> I don't know what the most popular books are in spanish but it all comes from the same roots.
[23:10:08] <ted-ious> Yes that is false.
[23:10:36] <ted-ious> Unless you mean there is an undercurrent of strutctural racism in how USA is organized against white people.
[23:11:09] <ted-ious> That you can actually see in everything from college admissions to the voting rights act.
[23:11:20] <AlwaysNever> I don't know "agains who" that undercurrent of structural racism is weaponized, I just say it is there.
[23:11:43] <AlwaysNever> it may be a pendulum, or whatever
[23:11:46] <AlwaysNever> but it IS THERE
[23:14:39] <ted-ious> It's a good thing you live in spain and don't have to come back here then.
[23:15:14] <AlwaysNever> Totally, I am not going back to the USA unless with an letter of invitation from the Federal Governmen
[23:15:19] <ted-ious> Although I do wonder why somebody who has no stake in america and clearly doesn't like it pays so much attention to what happens here.
[23:15:46] <AlwaysNever> well, you know, it's all over the world news
[23:16:26] <ted-ious> What a shame that spain is such a totalitarian state that they force you to watch news from other countries.
[23:16:38] <AlwaysNever> perhaps you are not aware of it, but there is a civilized world outside of the USA where manners matter
[23:17:07] <ted-ious> Yes I've seen some of it for myself.
[23:17:29] <AlwaysNever> the USA news are opening all the news broadcasta for weeks now, it's impossible to avoid
[23:17:48] <ted-ious> Maybe things have changed recently but during none of my travels did anybody I met treat me like I was a bad person because they didn't like where I came from.
[23:18:14] <AlwaysNever> who is saying you are a bad person?
[23:20:24] <ted-ious> Maybe things have changed recently but during none of my travels did anybody I met mention the word fascist.
[23:20:59] <ted-ious> But that's probably because I didn't go out of my way to associate with marxists.
[23:21:35] <AlwaysNever> marxists again! man, what's with that obsession?
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[23:22:22] <ted-ious> You keep using marxist terminology and rhetoric that I recognize. :)
[23:22:36] <AlwaysNever> you know, it would go a long way if the USA could police itself without mimicking the Gestapo, etc. etc.
[23:24:44] <AlwaysNever> I'm totally in favor of mandatory National ID Card, and controlled borders - but policy should solve problems, not create them.
[23:24:55] <AlwaysNever> *police should
[23:26:27] <chromas> policy is stopping police from solving problems
[23:27:41] <AlwaysNever> why is ICE in such a hurry. I looks like they are in a competition. cannot that job be done calmly in a number of years?
[23:31:41] <chromas> They've been doing it calmly for decades but now The Media™ is hyping up citizen unrest, so a small number go out protest, while local police are instructed to stand down while instigators provoke the protestors to endanger their lives to stop illegal aliens from being deported.
[23:32:24] <ted-ious> Funny how so many people who are so concerned with calling white american racists are also completely opposed to voter id because they say minorities don't have them.
[23:33:11] <ted-ious> I've never met a single black adult who didn't have id and unlike all of these complainers I've actually askd them to their faces.
[23:34:28] <chromas> They say they can't get them because they're too disadvantaged to be able to get IDs. Systemic Racism keeps them from being able to take a bus or get a ride over to the DMV.
[23:34:53] <ted-ious> There's that marxisst term again. :)
[23:35:06] <AlwaysNever> chromas: "They've been doing it calmly for decades but now" ...but now there are roaming brigades of Racial Police on the streets
[23:35:15] <ted-ious> LOL
[23:37:05] <chromas> ICE comes in to arrest people when they find them, but protestors come out to block traffic and blow their 3d-printed whistles from thingiverse. The police won't keep the protestors and instigators at bay because of local policy, so the feds have to do it themselves.
[23:37:18] <AlwaysNever> I remember when discussing life with my USA friends, they mocked our "fascist issued National ID Cards", how live changes!
[23:38:45] <ted-ious> chromas: It's funny that everything you just said is true and yet nobody on the left in america will admit any of it.
[23:38:45] <chromas> we've had id cards for decades and decades and decades. they're state-issued though. the only national id I can think of would be the SSID, which is a super secret number you're not supposed to use for ID even though that's what it's used as. And passports I guess
[23:38:53] <AlwaysNever> in many countries in Europa to have a National ID Card is mandatory, you cannot function in society without it unless you go live by hunting in the mountains
[23:42:31] <AlwaysNever> also, Spanish police is dandy and gentlemanesque as hell, compared to what ICE does; then again, we don't have an armed populance
[23:42:35] <chromas> On the one hand, government should go after all the people who employ illegal aliens and pay them under the table, which would give them less of incentive to cross the border. On the other hand, fuck the government; paying under the table is based.
[23:43:30] <chromas> Most local police are are pretty nice here too. We definitely have some retards though, like that cop who went on a shooting spree when an acorn dropped on his car.
[23:45:14] <chromas> What the world needs is more Trucks of Peace
[23:45:41] <AlwaysNever> the problem with how ICE is proceeding, is that it is an adversarial way of proceeding, and you cannot build long standing national interest policies based on adversarial tactics
[23:46:31] <chromas> They should either arrest everyone impeding them, or just pull out entirely from the state and let the whole thing turn into a shithole.
[23:47:09] <AlwaysNever> they should arrest without resembling the Gestapo searching for daily quotas
[23:47:24] <chromas> and make sure they have internet there so we can watch the livestreams
[23:47:51] <AlwaysNever> that is important: we want the livestream to be properly fed
[23:48:47] <ted-ious> There wouldn't be any problems with ice doing their job if we didn't have so many marxist trained agitators in the country.
[23:49:31] <AlwaysNever> "marxist trained agitators", you sound so off base
[23:49:51] <ted-ious> God help the left in america if the right stop being cowed by being called nazi or fascist.
[23:50:23] <AlwaysNever> fascist is as fascist do
[23:50:26] <ted-ious> They might start employing the same kind of violence that the left has been using since the 1960's.
[23:50:41] <chromas> Most arrests do go down without much issue. You just get to see the rare incident played over and over and over
[23:51:08] <ted-ious> AlwaysNever: People like you are going to have a rude awakening when you find out that your dirty words like fascist don't do anything anymore.
[23:51:46] <chromas> we're not even Italian
[23:51:59] <ted-ious> I can raise a boomer's blood pressure just by calling them a fascist or nazi but anybody younger than about 20 it just makes them laugh.
[23:52:00] <AlwaysNever> don't worry, I'm ofter called a fascist at home in Spain when I share my views on issues
[23:52:23] <chromas> everyone calling each other a fascist
[23:52:24] <ted-ious> LOL I don't believe you. :)
[23:52:27] <chromas> it's like the new hipster
[23:52:31] <chromas> =onion hipster
[23:52:33] <chromas> =g onion hipster
[23:52:33] <systemd> Search failed: HTTP request returned status code 403 ()
[23:52:39] <chromas> booo
[23:53:15] <chromas> https://theonion.com
[23:53:17] <systemd> ^ 03Two Hipsters Angrily Call Each Other 'Hipster'
[23:53:47] <AlwaysNever> the crazy unhinged left in Spain is just a copycat of your crazy unhinged left.
[23:54:12] <AlwaysNever> in fact, our left in importing all your shitty left idead
[23:54:17] <AlwaysNever> *ideas
[23:54:20] <chromas> do they also have activists roaming the streets trying to provoke the police?
[23:54:33] <AlwaysNever> we don't have a racial problem here, though
[23:55:47] <AlwaysNever> we have walls in Ceuta and Melilla that make Trummps border wall with Mexico look like a humanitarian garden decoration, lol
[23:56:18] <chromas> lies
[23:56:23] <chromas> it's a boarder wall. get it right
[23:57:37] <chromas> well if we could get rid of our 'racial issues' we'd drop down near the bottom of the list of countries with gun and other violent crimes
[23:58:07] <AlwaysNever> this is a propper border wall, Trumpo knows nothing: https://upload.wikimedia.org
[23:59:12] <chromas> sounds like you guys are racist nationalist xenophobic nazi fascists
[23:59:40] <AlwaysNever> we might be, but we don't let problems grow until they are out of control, LOL