#soylent | Logs for 2025-11-01
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[07:15:24] <c0lo> Fascinating https://www.youtube.com
[07:15:27] <systemd> ^ 03America’s New Chip Factory — $50 Billion Nightmare
[08:02:46] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[08:02:48] <systemd> ^ 03Disney/Pixar presents…”Blacked”♠️ #ai #funny #disneypixar
[08:02:54] <chromas> Another Disney Blackbuster
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[12:42:14] <AlwaysNever> Hello, good day.
[12:44:36] <janrinok> hi, u ok?
[12:46:06] <AlwaysNever> I'm gonna dump here an idea, feel free to critize it: Re-imagine Twitter/X microbloggin in a trully decentralized, federated, non-web/non-JavaScript, mode. Imagine bringing back the finger protocol, with its .plan and .project files, and some kind a of finger-aggregator app, like a news-feed aggregator app, to display you the updated status of the fingers you follow... What d'you think?
[12:47:01] <AlwaysNever> fine, @janrinok, thanks ; how do you do?
[12:48:40] <AlwaysNever> I'm in the process of setting up my finger daemon in my VPS...
[12:50:42] <AlwaysNever> The need geek personal card will be a finger --> pointing to your email address, only geeks will grok it, haha.
[12:50:58] <AlwaysNever> *the new geek
[12:52:01] <AlwaysNever> a digression: what's the difference between nerd and geek? eludes me at the moment.
[12:53:22] <janrinok> sounds interesting - I'm deep in a bit of code at the moment so I am only watching this chan as guard. Is there a difference? I would have to look it up. Perhaps a geek is more technical, whereas a nerd is just academic.???
[12:55:46] <AlwaysNever> would a nerd imply a more autistic trait than a geek? Is a geek more socially skilled than a nerd?
[13:01:58] <janrinok> I don't think that autism is connected with it at all. The terms existed long before the current claims about autism and being 'on the spectrum'.
[17:04:55] <fab23> AlwaysNever: the federated microbloggin does already exist, it is called Fediverse and using the ActivityPub protocol, the probably prominent server software is Mastodon, but there are many others
[17:11:38] <AlwaysNever> That "Fediverse" I know, and sorry but not suitable for purpose. It still is meant to be used with a web browser with client-side JavaScript enabled: it is a trap.
[17:13:14] <fab23> 🙀
[17:13:51] <AlwaysNever> sorry again, I'm not in a Unicode-enabled terminal.
[17:14:28] <AlwaysNever> (nor I want to be in one so enabled)
[17:15:22] <fab23> it is "cat face screaming in fear"
[17:17:40] <fab23> With the use of umlauts in my region most of that has moved to UTF-8 anyway, so Emojis are fine as well. :)
[17:19:18] <AlwaysNever> ISO-8850-1 on my side, or the highway, LOL
[17:19:26] <AlwaysNever> *ISO-8859.1
[17:20:22] <fab23> that would be enough for ä, ö and ü, or even Ä, Ö and Ü :)
[17:20:41] <AlwaysNever> if works good enough for and
[17:21:02] <AlwaysNever> all the rest, take full damage
[17:21:39] <fab23> I can also type ñ or ç and a few others
[17:22:20] <fab23> éèáà
[17:22:23] <AlwaysNever> not seen here what you say, it gets sent as UTF-8 I guess
[17:22:37] <fab23> :-(
[17:22:54] <AlwaysNever> :-( I see!
[17:23:00] <fab23> looks fine on https://logs.sylnt.us
[17:23:01] <systemd> ^ 03#soylent | Logs for 2025-11-01
[17:23:08] <AlwaysNever> good old emoticos save the day!
[17:23:37] <fab23> hm the funny thing, your 8-bit ASCII are broken in the log, my UTF-8 shit is fine :)
[17:24:20] <fab23> WeeChat does read ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8, but seems to write UTF-8
[17:25:37] <AlwaysNever> The web version get your extended characters fine (UTF-8 I guess), but mine not so well (ISO-8859-1): https://i.ibb.co
[17:26:22] <fab23> yes, same here
[17:27:12] <AlwaysNever> I hate that Unicode DID NOT granfathered ISO-8859-1 in, as it DID granfathered US-ASCII in
[17:28:00] <AlwaysNever> I do not appreciate Unicode, in fact I hate it
[17:28:02] <fab23> there are many other different charsets, which probably do overlap
[17:29:40] <AlwaysNever> anything above 127 US-ASCII overlaps with anything else
[17:30:17] <AlwaysNever> but civilized discourse perfectly fits ISO-8859-1, for all I know
[17:31:22] <AlwaysNever> I'll stick to my guns and shun UTF-8 from my life
[17:43:54] <AlwaysNever> haha, I was preparing a post to be published in a Reddit subforum, and I told X's Grok AI to check it for grammar and spelling, and it came back saying: "The tone is informal, frustrated, and nostalgic.evoking (...) while remaining substantive. It's persuasive, using rhetorical questions and personal anecdotes to build empathy. Strengths include relevant links and a logical flow; weaknesses are occasional repetition and a slightly ram
[17:45:14] <AlwaysNever> I aknowledge it looks like Grok is X-raying me...
[17:46:44] <AlwaysNever> I'm slowly becoming a rambling old man
[17:52:09] <chromas> Fediverse is way overcomplimicated and it sounds dumb. Just use RSS/Atom
[17:52:28] <chromas> with only 7-bit encoding
[17:54:40] <chromas> Also, the great thing about autism being a spectrum now is everyone can be on it, and we can all rank each other and argue about who's the most victimized and/or empowered by it
[18:13:39] <janrinok> it seems to me like that would be arguing about something that nobody cared about a decade or more ago. There are severe cases of autism that will permanently affect someone's life, and those of the surrounding and caring family and friends. But much of it seems to me to be someone seeking an excuse for a personal trait that they have developed.
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[19:22:18] <Bytram> janrinok: Ping. Are you online?\
[19:27:27] <mrpg> =Submit https://arstechnica.com
[19:27:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Bats Eat the Birds They Pluck From the Sky While on the Wing" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:27:53] <mrpg> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[19:27:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03There’s a Global Boom in Solar" (62p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:30:33] <mrpg> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[19:30:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Two Windows Vulnerabilities, One a 0-Day, are Under Active Exploitation" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:30:55] <mrpg> =submit https://arstechnica.com we are not in a ai bubble says ceo
[19:30:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Nvidia Hits Record $5 Trillion Mark as CEO Dismisses AI Bubble Concerns" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:31:10] <mrpg> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[19:31:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NPM Flooded With Malicious Packages Downloaded More Than 86,000 Times" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:53:03] <mrpg> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[19:53:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Google Confirms AI Search Will Have Ads, but They May Look Different" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:53:20] <mrpg> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[19:53:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Canada Says Hacktivists Breached Water and Energy Facilities" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:19:29] <c0lo> AlwaysNever, https://www.energyvanguard.com
[20:20:05] <mrpg> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[20:20:08] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03YouTube's AI Moderator Pulls Windows 11 Workaround Videos" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:46:11] <mrpg> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[20:46:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Microsoft Task Manager Bug Spawns New Processes" (11p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:49:56] <mrpg> =submit https://www.theregister.com
[20:49:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03International Criminal Court Dumps Microsoft Office" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:50:35] <mrpg> =submit https://www.theregister.com random
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[20:51:23] <mrpg> That's all folks, I'm going to read couple of those articles. Bye.
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[21:06:20] <Bytram> Oh well.