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[06:41:53] <c0lo> =sub big-cosmic-farts dept https://www.nasa.gov
[06:41:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Record-Breaking Explosion by Black Hole Spotted - NASA" (20p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[07:26:59] <c0lo> =sub https://theconversation.com
[07:27:00] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08The Search for Missing Plane MH370 is Back On. an Underwater Robotics Expert Explains What’s Invol" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:40:39] <chromas> it's so quiet in here
[10:41:31] <chromas> we need some good tech drama
[10:44:02] <chromas> systemd just works now, pulseaudio is dead, kernel's getting rusty, x is dead, shisen sho has gravity, apparmor is dead, manifest v2 is dead
[11:48:07] <prg> thankfully it's still possible to not use systemd
[11:56:37] <fab23> e.g. with the Free Beautifully Source Distribution
[14:27:01] * drussell will take daemon over lowly penguin every time
[14:28:24] <drussell> Beastie daemon has trident for stabby stabby and good shoes, penguin has stubby legs, waddles, and probably tastes great roasted on a spit.
[14:28:41] * drussell thinks everything tases better roasted on a spit!
[14:49:12] <prg> I don't care too much about the kernel, but I can't live without portage
[14:51:45] <fab23> prg: FreeBSD Ports, quite similar to portage
[14:52:21] <fab23> but on a stable base OS :)
[14:53:46] <prg> similar, but it felt like there was still something missing when I tried it a while ago
[14:56:28] <prg> I'd be interested in trying again, but I really don't have a lot of time atm
[14:57:22] <prg> could just fire up some VM to see what it's like nowadays
[15:03:12] <fab23> prg: so far the usage of Ports did not change, but I wonder what you are missing
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[15:13:05] <drussell> The ports system is the same as it has been since the mid 1990s.
[15:13:36] <drussell> Like most things FreeBSD, it Just Works™
[15:14:23] <drussell> cd /usr/ports/category/port
[15:14:26] <drussell> make fetch
[15:14:36] <drussell> make
[15:14:43] <drussell> make install
[15:14:45] <drussell> make clean
[15:15:17] <drussell> You don't even have to do every step unless you want to modify something or whatever... :)
[15:15:37] <drussell> They're just options. :)
[15:23:48] <prg> how do you update stuff?
[15:35:15] <fab23> prg: with portupgrade or portmaster
[15:35:53] <fab23> I went even so far that I use one of the systems to build .pkg and then use them to install on the others.
[15:36:45] <fab23> but the main tool for updating is the ports-mgmt/portupgrade port
[15:38:12] <fab23> syncing with: cd /usr/ports/ && make update (does now use git)
[15:44:08] <prg> might give it a try when I'm sufficiently bored. but doesn't sound like it has any advantages over portage
[15:44:59] <prg> emerge [category/]package to install something, eix-sync && emerge -uDU @world to update everything
[15:45:42] <prg> with great support for user patches and custom repositories
[15:47:38] <prg> also great tools to list available versions and dependencies, customization with use flags
[15:51:02] <fab23> So far I had not the need for custom repo (but should be possible, in worst case through git magic), but everything else is there.
[18:35:25] <Ingar> I haven't had a FreeBSD box in ages
[18:35:41] <Ingar> my home router used to be one
[18:36:00] <Ingar> I even had one running on a friend's attic
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[22:46:02] <c0lo> =sub https://arxiv.org
[22:46:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Superintelligence Strategy: Expert Version" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:47:12] <c0lo> =sub https://gizmodo.com
[22:47:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Eric Schmidt Suggests Countries Could Engage in Mutual Assured AI Malfunction (MAIM)" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:47:55] <c0lo> merge the two:arxiv is details to gizdomo
[22:48:23] <chromas> you can also do =sub url url url
[22:48:43] <chromas> or =usb url +url for footnote links
[22:48:58] <chromas> or =sub not usb
[22:50:10] * chromas notes the subs
[22:54:42] <ted-ious> Carriers are always headline news but nobody talks about the subs.
[22:55:34] <chromas> There aren't that many movies about subs either, but they're usually pretty dramatic but unrealistic
[23:12:59] <c0lo> chromas++
[23:24:56] <chromas> c0lo++
[23:25:11] <chromas> of course, realistic dramas just aren't that interesting
[23:25:30] <c0lo> chromas++
[23:25:41] <chromas> Bender--
[23:26:14] <c0lo> blender+-*/
[23:39:49] <drussell> bender--