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[19:12:30] <AlwaysNever> to many people, calling others to be "Nazis" is a luxury they cannot afford
[19:07:50] <AlwaysNever> if you are rich, you move to a place with a better Country Club, if you are not, you move away from supporting "traditional politics"
[19:06:01] <AlwaysNever> it's all fun and trolling, until your neighborhood has gone into a shithole and the funny shit ends there
[19:05:01] <AlwaysNever> in Reddit homepage or "popular" section, it is amazing the constant work of anti-Trump community managers
[19:00:04] <AlwaysNever> Trump controls the Government, but the think tanks are not staffed by federal workers
[18:59:54] <chromas> he's obviously making all big media outlets shit on him constantly so he can get away with stuff
[18:59:16] <janrinok> depends on which thinktanks then
[18:58:35] <AlwaysNever> Trump does not control the propaganda thinktanks, which are demonizing Trump non-stop
[18:57:59] <janrinok> They are Trump's best mates now
[18:57:56] <AlwaysNever> perhaps it's become clear the USA is too?
[18:57:32] <AlwaysNever> it's funny how the propaganda thinktanks no more accusse Russia of being an oligarchy (which it is) lately, I wonder why...
[18:57:06] <janrinok> I can take no credit for that - it is all over the internet
[18:56:37] <AlwaysNever> swasticar, LOL
[18:55:12] <janrinok> they ought to be stopped, or worse, made to drive a swasticar
[18:54:34] <chromas> Who's stealing cars from Iraq?
[18:54:23] <Ingar> AlwaysNever: I bike
[18:54:03] <AlwaysNever> It's also unethical to burn gasoline in our cars stolen from Iraq or Siria, and we still use it anyway
[18:54:03] <Ingar> (seriously, don't watch the sun without special glasses)
[18:53:41] <Ingar> use sunscreen!
[18:53:34] <Ingar> in totally unrelated news, there's a partial solar eclipse next saturday
[18:52:34] <janrinok> I think many of us do...
[18:51:23] <Ingar> I even have my own shithole website I didn't update in ages
[18:51:00] <chromas> using a shithole website does though
[18:50:55] <janrinok> damn right!
[18:50:55] <chromas> no it doesn't
[18:50:46] <Ingar> using an Elon Musk platform feels.. unethical
[18:50:39] <janrinok> The intention is to have a second server located elsewhere to handle any short-term outages.
[18:50:24] <chromas> and Bender
[18:50:11] <chromas> we actually do have a twatter account but nobody has the credentials, except maybe nc
[18:49:43] <Ingar> woosh
[18:49:37] <janrinok> ah, sorry, I've been whooshed
[18:49:34] <Ingar> janrinok: I mean, as an alternative to a twatter account ;-p
[18:49:02] <janrinok> Ingar - it looks OK here at the moment
[18:48:12] <Ingar> isitmeorissoylentdown.org
[18:47:26] <AlwaysNever> *or BlueSky if that is your flavour of poison, LOL
[18:44:16] <AlwaysNever> I would totally understand it IF the SN site had some premise like "will be always reachable from vintage kit", but as it is you cannot partake in SN without a modern PC with modern TLS, so now that modern kit is a dependency for SN, might as well go the next step to have a Twitter/X official account dedicated to the sole purpose of being a status site for downtime issues
[18:39:59] <chromas> the whole premise of this simte is curmudgeonry
[18:39:28] <janrinok> lol
[18:37:35] <AlwaysNever> I though *I* was the ultimate curmudgeon type, but I am relieved to know I'm not, LOL ;.)
[18:36:15] <janrinok> No, it is not. No Faceplant, Twatter, Discord or anything else thank you.
[18:35:01] <AlwaysNever> It's one thing to not take place in virtual twitter mudd slinging contests, and another thing is not to use it as a backup, off-band, meeting point for desaster recovery situarions
[18:34:28] <janrinok> Our site and IRC is the only social media I want or need, thanks.
[18:33:41] <janrinok> Nobody wants a Twitter account!
[18:33:20] <janrinok> Not necessarily - if we lose DNS access it would be true but that is a rare case. And we have a backup IRC on Libre.Chat
[18:31:50] <AlwaysNever> if the hosting is down, the IRC would be down too
[18:31:18] <AlwaysNever> I see - however, in case the main site is down, I thing an official Twitter account should be the proper thing to do to communicate the recovery status of the SN site
[18:30:14] <janrinok> We want people to come on here whenever there is a problem with the main site. They don't have to have an account on the site.
[18:27:53] <janrinok> We don't know what people's passwords are and the security risks involved with linking IRC to our live database wouldn't be worth it.
[18:27:29] <AlwaysNever> janrinok: so what? it's not like an official ID document is needed to create a username in SN
[18:26:40] <AlwaysNever> I guess some plugin to interface the IRC daemon into SN would need to be made
[18:26:33] <janrinok> But lots of other people couldn't either.
[18:26:11] <AlwaysNever> It could be made that to login into IRC you have to use the same nick and password as in the SN website, then Ari could not come here
[18:22:34] <AlwaysNever> I guess for him it's just a game, and SN keeps gamifying what he does
[18:21:28] <janrinok> I don't agree. Keeping him out isn't difficult
[18:21:19] <AlwaysNever> he must have pissed some people really hard
[18:21:07] <chromas> or for him to keep trying to get in
[18:20:46] <AlwaysNever> It's kind of crazy the arms race going on to keep Ari out
[18:19:44] <chromas> But of course, you have to pay the troll toll to get in this boy's hole
[18:19:28] <AlwaysNever> *is higher than the toll of letting him be (i meant to say)
[18:19:24] <chromas> If he had a life, no tolls would need be paid
[18:18:25] <AlwaysNever> Perhaps the toll that keeping Ari out takes, is higher than the toll of keeping the hunt after him going on?
[15:35:10] <Ingar> no people with mental disabilities don't bother with such crap
[15:32:27] <chromas> Imagine hating a site so much that you come back to it every day just to shit on it for decades and decades and decades. Must be a mental disability.
[15:30:55] <janrinok> Perhaps there is message there that he is missing.....?
[15:29:31] <chromas> probably irc flags
[14:37:53] <janrinok> I haven't a clue what he is talking about - I am not using flags, just allowing the community to moderate comments.
[11:18:30] * Ingar waves his checkerboard-pattern flag
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[09:08:42] <blackjack> Flags!! Too many fucking flags!!
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[00:10:55] <whysocensored> How can we tell if a comment is unflagged?
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