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[00:00:15] <SoyCow5838> https://www.rt.com
[00:00:17] <systemd> ^ 03Anne Frank betrayal suspect named
[00:00:19] <SoyCow5838> MUH SIX MILLION!
[00:00:43] <SoyCow5838> (cue lots of stinky Rabbis trying to maintain their guilt-based grip on America)
[00:01:02] <SoyCow5838> Nevermind that everybody knows that "diary" was written by a male Jew, after the fact.
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[01:15:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SLS: NASA Fixes Glitchy Megarocket Equipment Ahead of Key Test - https://sylnt.us - just-wait-(some-more)
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[05:06:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - An Ancient Greek Astronomical Calculation Machine Reveals New Secrets - https://sylnt.us
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[07:46:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CTA Announces Availability of Ripple - https://sylnt.us - common-sense
[08:16:57] <chromas> from the I-totally-know-what-that-is dept.
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[10:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The UK Government is Reportedly Preparing a PR Blitz Against End-to-End Encryption - https://sylnt.us
[10:39:54] <boru> I wonder how they plan to stop end to end encryption.
[10:40:13] <FatPhil> don't ask - it's secret
[10:40:26] <FatPhil> Clinton managed it with the Clipper Chip, so, oh, wait
[10:40:40] <boru> They seem to be trying it everywhere.
[10:41:18] <boru> It's fairly simple though; just don't use the services or programs they are _not_ trying to ban.
[10:41:30] <boru> e.g. whatsapp and signal etc.
[10:42:14] <boru> I guess more people will start using stuff like Briar.
[10:45:07] <FatPhil> My method of trying to persuade people to stop trusting trust is simply to never use encryption anywhere. If anyone says "but I can't trust your website without the padlock symbol in the browser" I respond "how do you know you could trust it with that symbol?"
[10:46:08] <boru> I've said it here several times before, CA systems are broken, and trust should be distributed.
[10:46:20] <FatPhil> Yup. You can't fix the implementation of a broken model.
[10:46:42] <FatPhil> Funny that the web doesn't have a web of trust.
[10:47:35] <boru> Well, the web is not the Internet. The latter is decentralised, the former mostly isn't.
[10:48:16] <boru> The UK seems to try this every few years, though.
[10:48:27] <FatPhil> think of the children!
[10:48:28] <boru> "What civil liberties can we take away from the proles this year?"
[10:48:44] <FatPhil> but paedos use encryption
[10:48:53] <boru> Ah yeah, that old chestnut.
[10:48:56] <boru> Terrorists as well.
[10:49:06] <FatPhil> drug peddlers.
[10:49:12] <FatPhil> My god, we must stop this now!
[10:50:05] <boru> Unless it's a member of the royal family!
[10:50:20] <boru> Or the people responsible have brown skin!
[10:50:57] <boru> Fire up those fact checkers!
[10:53:26] <FatPhil> doesn't most of the UK govt have brown skin now, apart from the bleached scarecrow.
[10:56:04] <boru> No idea. I don't see or recognise individuals in goverment anymore. It's just a bloated entity which seems only to exist to take away money and liberty from hard working people.
[11:02:05] <FatPhil> Have you seen the movie /Society/? I think it mirrors the body-horror sex scene from that.
[11:02:20] <boru> No, I haven't seen it.
[11:03:27] <FatPhil> one of the go-to references for body horror, a classic
[11:06:34] <boru> Well, we won't have to worry about it for much longer. Once everyone is forcibly vaccinated, they can be forcibly conscripted into NATO forces for the impending war with Russia and China and be blown to pieces. We won't have to worry about taxes or liberties then!
[13:12:36] <FatPhil> I will have a religious exemption, fortunately.
[13:15:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Another Neptune-Like Exomoon Candidate Reported (Kepler-1708 b-i) - https://sylnt.us - Ψ
[13:34:26] <boru> Thankfully, our politicians of yore had the sense to not join NATO.
[13:40:56] <FatPhil> but don't you think you contributed positively to KFOR, for example?
[13:41:24] <FatPhil> (alongside Finland and Sweded, also non-NATO)
[13:41:38] <boru> The Free State army get pulled in on peacekeeping missions a lot, generally.
[13:42:08] <boru> Personally, I find peacekeeping missions to be highly political and invasive. I'm anti-interventionist, in general.
[13:42:52] <boru> It all supports the MIC in the end.
[13:43:30] <boru> The same crooked politician shareholders get rich from the weapons and ammunitions supplied.
[13:46:36] <FatPhil> no disagreement there
[13:46:43] <boru> Undoubtedly this is how the USA goverment sees itself recovering from the economic downturn created by covid: waging war with Russia, China and Iran, or all of them.
[13:46:56] <boru> It's the backbone of their economy.
[13:47:21] <FatPhil> it could just sell arms to both sides of some external conflict, that would work too.
[13:47:48] <FatPhil> Buy your tickets for Saudi Arabia vs. Israel!
[13:47:48] <boru> I'd wager that the CIA are out there in Ukraine and Kazahktstan at the moment.
[13:48:08] <boru> And that leaving behind all of that high tech military equipment in Afghanistan was intentional.
[13:48:15] <boru> Gives Russia and Iran a problem on their borders.
[13:48:38] <FatPhil> You'd have to give me very good odds to bet against CIA involvement in Kaz.
[13:48:40] <boru> Saudi Arabia and Israel are allies.
[13:48:49] * boru nods.
[13:49:15] <boru> The Kazak farmers didn't grow those guns and mortars.
[13:49:44] <boru> Didn't the US pass the proposal last year to direct 1B USD to "counter" China, as well?
[13:50:17] <boru> And Israel are still begging the US to bomb Syria and Iran.
[13:50:26] <boru> We'll have war this year or the next, mark my words.
[13:50:57] <boru> In addition to the smaller conflicts currently ongoing e.g. France in Mali and so on.
[13:51:43] <boru> How that senile moron is still in power in the US is astounding.
[13:52:57] <FatPhil> perceived as less bad than the chaos monkey?
[13:54:13] <boru> Two sides of the same coin.
[13:54:26] <FatPhil> I'm viewing Biden more as Carter 2.0 as time goes on.
[13:54:46] <boru> That other eejit was no better. I maintain that JFK was the last good president of the USA.
[13:56:41] <boru> I'll argue that Carter at least knew where he was 50% of the time.
[13:56:59] <FatPhil> I have to stretch all the way to Eisenhower
[13:57:18] <FatPhil> Yeah, maybe Biden's Carter/2.0
[14:00:46] <boru> And I don't agree on Eisenhower.
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[15:56:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World's First MRAM-Based In-Memory Computing - https://sylnt.us - have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-back-on-again...Oh...wait.
[18:45:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Huge, Kilometer-Wide Asteroid will Pass by Earth Today - https://sylnt.us
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[19:34:18] <Runaway1956> Funny, I read an article earlier today comparing Biden to Carter.
[19:34:38] <Runaway1956> Main difference I see between them is, Carter actually did SOMETHING in his life.
[19:35:44] <Runaway1956> Biden has never done anything at all, except make up stories about driving truck, make up stories about his house burning down, make up stories - well, it goes on and on
[20:02:30] <FatPhil> He wrote the patriot act
[20:08:21] <chromas> You know who else uses encryption? Anti-vaxxers! Quick! Put the e2e down and go get the jab!
[20:08:56] <chromas> Biden also has the 1994 crime bill under his belt
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[20:42:21] <Runaway1956> Who wrote the patriot act? Biden? You gotta be kidding me - at most he offered up a comment or two to the people who actually wrote it, then put it on a shelf waiting for a nice crisis to come along.
[20:43:03] <Runaway1956> See? Biden even makes up stories about Biden making up stories!
[21:26:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Goldfish Drives Car (Not Kidding!) - https://sylnt.us - why-do-we-need-artificial-intellegence-anyway
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[21:57:14] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: I'm just making reference to this/these; https://www.buzzfeednews.com
[21:57:16] <systemd> ^ 03The Many Occasions Joe Biden Took Credit For Writing The Patriot Act
[21:58:14] * FatPhil gibbers inanely to himself about how it's not "the patriot act"
[22:00:24] <FatPhil> I seem to be the only one who's hackles are raised when hearing "The Nobel Prize for Economics" too. (Apart from the g/f, she's suffers induced hackle-raising in my presence.)
[22:04:56] <Runaway1956> If I had a hackle, I would raise it.
[22:06:55] <Runaway1956> I almost missed that plural - why you get more than one hackle when some of us don't get any?
[22:07:03] <Runaway1956> Is that your white privilege?
[22:12:22] <Runaway1956> A master chef can take some pork chops and some veggies, and turn them into something resembling Alpo.
[22:12:38] <Runaway1956> Taste it though, and it's pretty good!
[22:14:26] <FatPhil> It's my Right Privilege
[22:16:10] <Bytram> =g hackles
[22:16:10] <systemd> https://www.merriam-webster.com - Hackle Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster;
[23:00:35] <Runaway1956> cryptid hunting rounds are up to $2.25/round
[23:00:54] <Runaway1956> https://www.nosler.com
[23:00:55] <systemd> ^ 03Ballistic® Silver Tip Bullets
[23:01:55] <Runaway1956> finding them in stock is a beach though
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