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[00:53:10] <Runaway1956> MrPlow uses chromas, doesn't bother pulling anything
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[01:19:39] <AzumaHazuki> this just in: fuuuuuuuuuuuck the "general public"
[01:25:13] <Deucalion> AzumaHazuki, tell us how you really feel! I mean I get that with the customers I have to deal with but... the public at large.... c'mon...
[01:25:46] <AzumaHazuki> yes, the public at large. put it this way: that bell curve idea? the American public's intelligence is not distributed on a bell curve
[01:25:57] <AzumaHazuki> there is a very, very long tail and an extremely pronounced right skew
[01:27:49] <Bytram> "The intelligence of the world is a constant and the population is increasing"
[01:27:59] <Bytram> =g "The intelligence of the world is a constant and the population is increasing"
[01:28:00] <systemd> [0 results]
[01:28:06] <Bytram> =g The intelligence of the world is a constant and the population is increasing
[01:28:07] <systemd> https://www.dni.gov - AlternAtive Worlds
[01:28:44] <Bytram> I know I read it somewhere decades ago.
[01:36:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PFAS Exposure, High-Fat Diet Drive Prostate Cells’ Metabolism Into Pro-Cancer State - https://sylnt.us - PSA-don't-eat-perfluoroalkyl-and-polyfluoroalkyl-substances
[01:36:47] <Deucalion> AzumaHazuki, if someone could devise a way to plot intelligence vs selfish and or greed on a chart.... well.... that'd be interesting. All qualititative vlaues of course.
[01:37:47] <AzumaHazuki> i don't know how much correlation you'd see. an intelligent greedhead would still be a greedhead if s/he were a moron
[01:41:48] <Bytram> If everyone were to make a choice that I am contemplating, would that work out to the greatest good, in total, for everybody? call it a Max/Max analysis, if you will.
[01:45:53] <Deucalion> AzumaHazuki, an intelligent greedhead - aka "target".
[01:46:20] <Deucalion> I may have said too much :D
[02:00:06] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.asianscientist.com Soyboys taking over the world!
[02:00:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03From Soy Whey Water to Sustainable Beverages - Asian Scientist Magazine" (3p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:01:06] <Runaway1956> Wait, wut? A Max Marx analysis? I didn't know the Marx brothers included a Max.
[02:02:58] <Runaway1956> https://www.asianscientist.com
[02:02:59] <systemd> ^ 03An Afternoon Nap A Day May Keep Dementia At Bay - Asian Scientist Magazine
[02:04:45] <Runaway1956> Asian Scientist is full of good stuff today
[02:04:57] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.asianscientist.com
[02:05:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Human Lineage Discovered in Indonesian Cave - Asian Scientist Magazine" (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:19:53] <Bytram> #smake Runaway1956
[02:19:53] * MrPlow smakes Runaway1956 upside the head with a roll of quarters
[02:20:07] <Bytram> ;)
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[04:51:53] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[04:51:55] <systemd> ^ 03Vvilderness - Dark Waters (Full Album)
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[07:24:46] <SoyCow3859> Hello Judenrats
[07:24:55] <SoyCow3859> What does it feel like to be vermin?
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[07:38:15] <SoyCow3859> Judenrat scum
[07:38:33] <SoyCow3859> Suck my fucking dick, you big-nosed small-hatted assholes
[07:39:15] <SoyCow3859> I can hear the sounds of your hands rubbing together.
[07:39:44] <SoyCow3859> IT sounds like the intro to the Dilbert TV show, which features the sound of rubbing a rubber balloon.
[07:40:18] <SoyCow3859> That's what Jewish hands sound like when rubbing together.
[07:40:26] <SoyCow3859> Rubbing a rubber balloon.
[07:40:38] <SoyCow3859> Erraerraerreerreeree
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[07:55:14] <chromas> Can I blame the jews for the horrid, disgusting piece of shit that is the GTK file picker?
[07:59:30] <FatPhil> Who wrote the Goy ToolKit anyway?
[08:01:10] <boru> The transition to that abomination which is gtk3 was around the time all DEs on unix-likes, as well as windows and crapintosh, were overhauling their UIs completely. UI "people" and web developers are truly the worst for this sort of thing.
[08:01:36] <chromas> Looks like Peter Mattisilvereubensteinenbergenbaumgartnen
[08:01:40] <AzumaHazuki> gtk3 sucks horrendously
[08:02:06] <boru> Look at recent firefox. Who thought purple, orange, yellow and pink looked good together? What is wrong with these people.
[08:02:15] <FatPhil> Qt, coming from Norway, must have been written by trolls
[08:02:17] <AzumaHazuki> i'm on LXQt now with mostly Qt apps. it's gotten to the point i've written a Clearlooks LXQt theme and use a pre-2010-Xfce-like setup with it
[08:02:18] <chromas> Pimps
[08:02:24] <boru> I thought Qt was Swedish.
[08:02:30] <chromas> Firefox is the pimp's browser
[08:03:02] <FatPhil> ay, maybe it was mysql that was norway. I just remember it was scandinavian
[08:03:05] <boru> When users are writing their own themes, you know things are bad.
[08:03:30] <chromas> Actually there's some package to install that makes Firefox use the KDE/Qt file picker. Gotta find out what it is
[08:03:33] <FatPhil> dunno about that - winamp was excellent, and themed to heck and back
[08:03:42] <chromas> boru: that's why mozilla took away themes
[08:04:13] <chromas> although theme removal was just another thing they ripped off Opera :D
[08:04:33] <boru> I used to use openbox and e17 for a while, but since i3 got stable, I haven't gone back. I don't think I could use an entirely gtk or qt interface for a computer.
[08:04:34] <FatPhil> FF's mental - I don't even recognise what it's populating the left pane of my file picker with. It in no way corresponds to my filesystem, which I'd have thought would have been the sensible thing.
[08:05:04] <chromas> XMMS/BMP/Audacious/et cetera all still can use WinAMP skins
[08:05:10] <chromas> QMMP
[08:05:37] <boru> Yeah, those sorts of "features" where these UI people think they know better are a sure sign that bad things are coming.
[08:05:59] <boru> "What do you mean you don't like icons that draw over everything else on your screen?!"
[08:07:28] <chromas> https://opensource.com
[08:07:47] <chromas> Putting the OK/Cancel in the title bar was a stroke of...something
[08:07:51] <boru> As for gtk3, I just use the standard theme. I have given up trying to find what needs to be done to turn it into a dark theme again each time I update.
[08:08:17] <boru> And which of the hundreds of env vars you need to set for qt to do anything.
[08:09:17] <chromas> there's a specific one you need to set if you're outside of kde/gnome and then its own configurator settings work
[08:10:42] <chromas> can't find it now
[08:10:54] <FatPhil> chromas - it was just a stroke, I think
[08:10:58] <chromas> butt I thought environment variables was the unix way. why you no love'em
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[08:11:12] <boru> In general, software is just getting worse and worse. Everyone thinks they're a programmer these days, and this is leading to very bad software. This is compounded by FOSS' propensity bending over backwards for egalitarianism rather than meritocracy.
[08:11:13] <SoyCow3859> Ju SKUMM
[08:11:31] <boru> Get a hobby, or a partner. It's later than you think.
[08:11:39] <SoyCow3859> FOSS lost because it embraced TRANNIES
[08:11:45] <SoyCow3859> and all thier whiny bullshit
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[08:12:09] <chromas> ah, install qt5ct and the nset QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
[08:13:15] <boru> Well, according to their CTCP version, they're using an IRC client with some sploits. Good to know.
[08:13:58] <boru> Setting that doesn't work for me, but qt is often broken on BSD.
[08:14:15] <boru> They're cross platform, if your platform is linux or crapos.
[08:14:38] <chromas> maybe nobody on bsd is interested in using qt
[08:15:11] <boru> I think it's moreso that maintaining qt is a 100 person job, at least.
[08:15:22] <chromas> what's the irc client? I assumed it was the web interface
[08:15:24] <boru> It's a bunch of non-standard conforming C++ and XML.
[08:15:41] <chromas> wasn't c++ just nonstandard c? >:D
[08:15:56] <boru> C++ is a mess.
[08:15:56] <Bender> karma - c: 72
[08:16:03] * boru chuckles.
[08:16:03] <boru> Apt.
[08:17:09] * chromas invents ++C
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[08:23:58] <SoyCow4912> JEW RATTZ
[08:24:09] <SoyCow4912> AW Yeah Jew rats
[08:24:47] <FatPhil> .kick SoyCow4912
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[08:29:17] <FatPhil> One has to query the mental state of someone who runs into the market square and smears faeces all over himself in order to make someone else look bad.
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[09:20:54] <SoyCow4912> I understdand you rat bastards are going to face a reckoning.
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[09:31:01] <FatPhil> Is it possible/sane to hibernate a linux, and then boot from a live-CD, do shit there, shutdown, and then resume the hibernated session?
[09:32:44] <boru> It depends, are you planning on booting the hibernated system?
[09:33:33] <boru> You can probably safely mount the hibernated system's root and make changes, but not touch the ram image it has stored to disk.
[09:33:58] <boru> Of course, if you had said files open in an editor or something, you might run the risk of some inconsistencies.
[09:34:19] <FatPhil> erm, not sure if I understand the question. I'm just wondering whether being hibernated means that a brief spell in a live USB would mess anything up to do with resume
[09:34:49] <FatPhil> no need to touch the hibernated machine's partitions at all during live-USB time
[09:34:50] <boru> When you boot the live USB, it's booting a separate system, not the system on the disk unless you ask it to.
[09:35:16] <boru> If you're just booting the live USB and not touching the installed system, you should be fine.
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[09:35:37] <boru> In hibernation, the RAM contents are written to disk.
[09:35:41] <FatPhil> OK, so there's nothing special in the bootloader that treats a hibernated system differently from any other boot.
[09:36:18] <boru> No. The hibernated system takes care of restoring itself.
[09:36:21] <FatPhil> I used to understand bootloaders when they were just uboot. THey're now more complex than entire OSes of yore
[09:36:32] <boru> Tell me about it. UEFI was a mistake.
[09:36:38] <FatPhil> OK, thanks
[09:36:42] <FatPhil> boru++
[09:36:42] <Bender> karma - boru: 69
[09:37:13] <boru> To clarify, you are booting a live USB and not trying to boot the hibernated system from the live USB, correct?
[09:37:37] <FatPhil> yup, keeping the two separate, they don't need to know about each other.
[09:37:50] * boru nods.
[09:37:53] <boru> Should be fine, so.
[09:39:04] <boru> Shared filesystems are usually where the problems arise.
[09:40:32] <FatPhil> Now I need to work out how to install new repos/packages to a live ISO so that they're available next time I boot from the same stick.
[09:40:55] <boru> You might need to grow the filesystem on the USB stick to do that.
[09:41:11] <boru> Usually, the FS is just large enough to hold the contents of the image.
[09:41:51] <boru> There _might_ be enough sector pad available if it's just a small text file edit to add some URLs. YMMV.
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[09:42:57] <FatPhil> It seemed like a lot of packages were being added when I last tried it, but my stick is huge, I can gparted it if need be.
[09:43:12] <janrinok> FatPhil, https://linuxhint.com
[09:43:13] <systemd> ^ 03How to Customize Ubuntu ISO to Create Your Own Spin
[09:43:41] <boru> Yeah, then just grow the FS if you want the repos or packages installed locally.
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[09:43:44] <FatPhil> looking at this presently: https://askubuntu.com
[09:43:45] <systemd> ^ 03Can I add packages to my USB live stick
[09:44:04] <boru> It's really just a case of growing the FS and installing the packages...
[09:44:15] <boru> Unless ubuntu has fecked that up as well.
[09:44:45] <janrinok> nope - it is pretty straight-forward
[09:45:53] <boru> Perhaps you need to install some Coprophilliac Coelacanth Thursday Remix systemd service, or some such.
[09:46:05] <boru> ubuntu seems like a comedy distro.
[09:46:13] <janrinok> FP, th
[09:46:34] <janrinok> thanks for the film recommendation yesterday evening - I'll look out for it
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[09:48:37] <FatPhil> https://www.howtogeek.com
[09:48:37] <systemd> ^ 03How to Create a Live Ubuntu USB Drive With Persistent Storage
[09:49:02] <FatPhil> sounds like what I need.
[09:50:32] <janrinok> that's not quite the same. It doesn't keep things you have installed but lets you carry personal settings between boots
[09:51:30] <janrinok> ... so if you have configured your display or desktop layout it will be the same next time you boot. But programs that you have installed will NOT be on the drive.
[09:52:02] <janrinok> You have to create a new ISO (or 'spin', as it is called by Ubuntu)
[09:52:23] <boru> Or, you know, boot to the initramfs and grow the filesystem...
[09:52:34] <boru> Why are things so complicated with ubuntu?
[09:53:13] <janrinok> Because if you know how to boot to initramfs and grow a filesystem you are not the target for Ubuntu
[09:53:27] <boru> That's probably true. Good point.
[09:53:29] <janrinok> They make difficult things easier for beginners and newbies
[09:54:29] <janrinok> It used to be you had to search the interwebs for help and advise - now Ubuntu hope to have covered all the common problems that newbies experience
[09:54:36] <FatPhil> It claims to let me install packages, which is what I need.
[09:54:39] <janrinok> *advice
[09:54:46] <boru> "Need to increase the size of a partition? Just reinstall the operating system."
[09:54:47] <janrinok> OK, give it a try
[09:55:03] <FatPhil> However, I have no idea what this rufus tool is, it's not in any of my devuan repos
[09:55:29] <janrinok> no, you use gParted - but you wouldn't know that if you have never seen Ubuntu before
[09:55:38] <janrinok> boru^
[09:55:39] <FatPhil> I'd like to know what it's doing. I don't mind partitioning a drive as long as I know what to create
[09:56:17] <boru> I'm just poking fun at how silly ubuntu is. Don't take it so personally.
[09:56:43] <FatPhil> It's trying to protect me from what's really going on, but all I want to know is what's really going on.
[09:56:44] <janrinok> I'm not - I have no problem with what you are saying.
[09:57:42] <janrinok> Equally if you fave gentoo or arch to a newbie to install he would probably never use linux again in his life.
[09:57:48] <janrinok> gave*
[09:58:40] <boru> Probably a good thing, considering the state of linux these days.
[09:59:04] <janrinok> there is too much diversity IMO - but that is where we are
[09:59:43] <boru> Distro fragmentation is certainly part of the problem, but imho, corporate involvement is ultimately to blame.
[10:00:16] <boru> Red hat, ibm, oracle, N hardware vendors, all pushing their special crap into the linux kernel.
[10:00:20] <janrinok> yeah - too many people see the dollar signs light up in their eyes
[10:00:59] <janrinok> but how many people actually build their own kernel, after removing the crap that they will never use?
[10:01:44] <FatPhil> Yup, the big IT corps have ruined linux.
[10:02:54] <janrinok> It is just too easy to accept the kernel as delivered with whatever distro you like and get on with using the computer rather than setting it up to meet your individual wants and needs.
[10:04:53] <janrinok> got to go shopping - otherwise nothing in the house for lunch!
[10:05:01] <FatPhil> As long as it's modules, it's easy to just disable them. The problem is that everything seems to depend on everything else, so you might as well be monolithic!
[10:05:20] <FatPhil> lunchtime here too
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[12:39:41] <FatPhil> "persistent usb" created. lappy hibernated. ... wish me luck!
[12:40:35] <FatPhil> grrr, fucking boot menus, where to they hide?
[12:41:34] <FatPhil> ah, the old hammer-on-every-key technique did something - but which key did what!?!?
[12:43:57] <FatPhil> arse, couldn't get into the "persistent" boot mode, arrow keys didn't work on kbd. That's kinda basic functionality to not work
[12:45:37] <FatPhil> attempt 2: can't even boot from usb stick :(
[12:49:59] <FatPhil> yup, this machine doesn't want to boot from it. not sure how I managed to get into lubuntu (albeit nonpersistent mode) first time, but it looks like it's not happening again.
[12:50:51] <FatPhil> however, resume from hibernate got me exactly back where I was before the diversion, so at least that's good.
[12:52:55] <FatPhil> kinda perturbed no partition's marked as bootable on the USB, but as I mentioned earlier, bootloaders are a black art now
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[12:59:38] <FatPhil> oooh, tried with stick in a different USB socket (where a mouse was), and it worked. What was the magic change? Removal of mouse? Use of different socket? Sun went behind cloud? Prayed to satan first?
[13:00:29] <FatPhil> Does hibernating count as "turning it off and on again"? 'cos that might be it.
[13:03:12] <inz> Is it possible that the non-functional port is USB 3.0 and BIOS is too stupid to understand such things?
[13:04:44] <FatPhil> it did boot once from that port, but that was the time the kbd failed to work
[13:05:08] <inz> Or maybe you didn't turn it around on enough axes, USB cables are notoriously (at least) 4 dimensional
[13:11:42] <FatPhil> Universal Spinor Bus, you need to turn it around 2 full turns to get it to connect
[13:14:41] <boru> Before you realise you've been trying to connect it to a HDMI port.
[13:16:14] <FatPhil> same width as an RJ45...
[13:16:47] <FatPhil> now installing Estonian ID Card software - oooh, it's getting exciting...
[13:18:24] <FatPhil> Looks like the unionfs, or whatever it's called, is working fine - I can see stuff being added to the rw partition but not the ro partition
[13:21:45] <Bytram> FatPhil: "Does hibernating count as "turning it off and on again"? 'cos that might be it." In a word: No. Off/On basically results in a complete reinit of all fields in RAM, recreated from scratch.
[13:22:34] <Bytram> !uid
[13:27:52] <FatPhil> hibernate should do that, though. hibernate should persist battery removal, or even HD removal, in theory...
[13:42:19] <Bytram> FatPhil: Hibernate basically takes what is in RAM and writes that *exact* image to non-volatile storage. When you resume from hibernation, that *exact* image is restored to RAM. When you power Off/On, what gets to RAM has basically been recreated from scratch. (There's some hand-waving there WRT networks and the like.)
[13:50:16] <FatPhil> Oh, jeebus, ubuntu just got more retarded
[13:51:31] <FatPhil> After plugging in the ID card reader (Which failed), I unplugged it. Right after that, my boot/root mountpoints all disappeared! I presume the kernel was busy renaming all USB devices, and dissapeared its own filesystems in the process.
[13:51:49] <FatPhil> Sounds impossibly retarded, but I have no other explanation
[13:52:10] <FatPhil> I had a watch -d df running in a terminal, and I saw the mountpoints disappear
[13:53:24] <FatPhil> An OS which can't survive removal of an unrelated removable device is not an operating system, it's a bad joke.
[13:57:02] <janrinok> You are running it from the USB device - you cannot remove the USB device....
[13:57:57] <janrinok> ... or are you saying that your hibernated system suddenly stopped too?
[13:59:13] <janrinok> the installed OS will try to display the contents of the USB drive automatically - Ubuntu does that by default - so you might just have seen the contents of the USB drive disappearing which would make sense - you have just unplugged it?
[13:59:19] <FatPhil> I'm running from a key in one slot, the id card reader was in a different slot
[13:59:51] <FatPhil> I did not touch the boot key, I'm mad at ubuntu, but not insane
[14:00:36] <janrinok> perhaps you have dubious USB connections?
[14:01:01] <FatPhil> I just swapped the devices into different sockets, and booted again.
[14:01:17] <FatPhil> This time the id card reader works - this is the first time EVAR!!!
[14:01:33] <boru> Everything is so easy with ubuntu!
[14:01:34] <janrinok> sounds like your USB sockets are not 100%
[14:01:44] <FatPhil> cheaparse lenovo crap
[14:02:00] <FatPhil> wait a sec, it weren't cheap, I've been ripped off
[14:05:59] <janrinok> so cheap (quality) hardware and using i386 software on a laptop that you had previously discarded isn't working. The odds aren't good on this project but , like you, I would have to give it a try
[14:08:23] * Bytram just received an e-mail from my bank... encouraging me to improve my security... and offers me links I can click to install software on my PC and mobile phone. FacePalm.gif
[14:09:17] <janrinok> I'd phone them up and tell them that you think somebody is phishing your account by sending you dubious emails ;)
[14:09:18] <FatPhil> now I"ve got the security plugins on the browser, the browser is making some very weird statements about who is in control
[14:10:16] <Bytram> janrinok++ :D
[14:10:16] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 82
[14:10:51] <janrinok> Bytram, all accounts in France now need you to verify who you are via SMS every time you log onto the bank's site via the internet.
[14:11:32] <janrinok> Or at least if you want access to account information. You can probably scan the promotional stuff anytime.
[14:13:20] <boru> I'm fairly sure that TAN stuff is pan-EU now. Banks here have an app you can scan a QR code and enter a PIN or approve via the app. You also have to go through the procedure for wire transfers (common here) or online transfers.
[14:13:57] <janrinok> yep, probably, I just haven't tried it elsewhere.
[14:15:12] * Bytram does all my banking activity at a physical bank or by withdrawing cash from one of the bank's ATMs... almost all of my purchases are made with cash.
[14:16:09] <boru> Nice to be in a position to do that.
[14:16:31] <janrinok> I also have a UK bank account but they insist that to use it I must use a portable phone from the UK. Er, no, I live in France. I've tried changing sim cards but it says the hardware is registered to 'to other' accounts so still wont give me access.
[14:16:52] <FatPhil> My new bank is a cashless bank, but the branch is literally 400m away
[14:17:06] <boru> Cashless bank? Doesn't sound very profitable.
[14:17:08] <FatPhil> not that those 2 clauses are related
[14:17:18] <FatPhil> we're e-everything here
[14:17:25] <janrinok> I have an account like that - but the cashless bit is probably cause I have no money.....
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[14:18:28] <FatPhil> Wooop wooop! The convicted Finnish drug dealer and motorcycle gang leader who is wanted for suspected murder no longer lives at my flat!!!
[14:18:57] <FatPhil> (I.e. I've finally managed to log into the govt portal and update the list of residents of the property)
[14:19:25] <FatPhil> let's just hope he does't pay me a visit to complain
[14:19:27] <janrinok> Very few banks locally actually have money in them. You can speak to staff but other than using the ATM there is no way of getting cash from them.
[14:20:21] <janrinok> Which is why bank robbers and now turning into phishers and hackers
[14:20:29] <janrinok> s/and/are/
[14:20:30] <SedBot> <janrinok> Which is why bank robbers are now turning into phishers and hackers
[14:21:16] <janrinok> pass the risk to the customers yet still have all the interest on the money deposited in the bank without doing anything for it.
[14:26:11] <janrinok> FatPhil, have you got a Raspi that could do this job for you?
[14:26:19] <FatPhil> OK, that's weird - I didn't do anything, and the root filesystems unounted themselves again
[14:26:37] <FatPhil> janrinok: not supported by the estonian id card software, alas
[14:26:46] <janrinok> bad connection or data transfer speeds
[14:27:10] <janrinok> Raspi will run ubuntu
[14:27:48] <janrinok> I suppose that if it is a i386 there might not be an Arm version...
[14:28:05] <FatPhil> only x86_64 supported
[14:28:12] <janrinok> bugger
[14:28:33] <FatPhil> which means my whole put-ubuntu-on-the-old-laptop exercise yesterday was a complete waste of time
[14:28:50] <FatPhil> I suspect this usb has dodgy connectors
[14:29:08] <janrinok> I've got numerous 'old' desktops that I could happily give you sitting here but that will not help you in the short term
[14:29:52] <janrinok> FP, not a waste of time - think of what you have learned during the last 24 hours.... OK, probably a waste of time
[14:30:04] <FatPhil> This live-CD setup does seem to nearly work
[14:30:18] <FatPhil> I might just need to add a shim to make it not wobble, or something
[14:30:23] <FatPhil> live-usb, that is
[14:30:30] <janrinok> understood
[14:30:39] <FatPhil> The plan is to not stay in ubuntu long anyway. I hate modern OSes.
[14:31:08] <FatPhil> This is for notjhing more than webbanking, company accounts signing, and telling the govt I'm not harbouring any criminals.
[14:31:35] <FatPhil> and theoretically voting, but the next chance I'll have to do that is in 3y11m
[14:31:36] <janrinok> get a short usb extender cable, connect it between the lappy and your good usb drive, and then glue the lappy end when you have a good connection
[14:32:23] <janrinok> a good epoxy resin will do the job and it just means you have a short usb cable connected full-time
[14:32:25] <FatPhil> I used a really tiny uSB stick, one without the metal outer
[14:33:02] <janrinok> you could try a different stick then
[14:33:34] <janrinok> there are 3 or four of us following this project with interest!
[14:33:38] <FatPhil> If it's the wobble that's killing it, then yup, I'll do the procedure again with a better key
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[14:34:09] <janrinok> it is only a usb drive to usb drive copy
[14:34:15] <FatPhil> And like medical interventions, the only way you can be sure you've found the cause is to force it to get sick
[14:34:25] <janrinok> lol
[14:36:59] <Teckla> Another day, another Linux update that requires a restart.
[14:37:11] <janrinok> hi Teckla
[14:37:16] <FatPhil> fortunaly g/f uses pretty much the same laptop (I'm x240, she's x250 and x260) so hopefully the key will work on either machine in either place.
[14:37:17] <Teckla> o/
[14:37:33] * Teckla is enjoying his new Lenovo Yoga 7i.
[14:37:36] <FatPhil> welcome to #linuxwoes
[14:38:04] <Teckla> Still better than Windows.
[14:38:27] <Teckla> When I first got this machine -- with Windows 11 preinstalled -- it required around 6-8 restarts, as it installed update after update... after update, each requiring a restart.
[14:38:42] <FatPhil> OK, confirmed, removing of ID card reader on live system does not break live system
[14:39:00] <janrinok> I had to look that one up! I wasn't sure if it was some kind of exercise mat and you had gone all vegetable juices on us
[14:39:11] <Bytram> FatPhil: For the money vs aggravation/time, I'd think buying a new, full-sized USB stick that would have new contacts and would seat properly just might be worth considering. ;)
[14:39:24] * Teckla chuckles
[14:39:50] <Teckla> Bought this new machine during an incredible sale; couldn't pass it up. Only $600.
[14:40:00] <FatPhil> Bytram: yeah, at the moment I'm just trying to find out what has the potential of working. once something works end to end we'll do it more cleanly.
[14:40:34] <Teckla> I would like to recommend avoiding PNY USB flash drives. I bought some semi-recently, and had severe performance issues with them.
[14:40:49] <Bytram> Today's USB sticks are like AOL CDs!
[14:41:09] <inz> buy M.2 SSDs with USB adapters
[14:41:29] <Bytram> break time
[14:41:33] <janrinok> inz, that is getting serious
[14:42:08] <inz> at certain sizes the price difference is negligible
[14:43:08] <Teckla> inz: That's a great idea.
[14:43:11] <FatPhil> woop woop - now logged into new bank, first time EVAR!
[14:43:11] <Teckla> inz++
[14:43:11] <Bender> karma - inz: 12
[14:43:23] <FatPhil> Oh poop - my balance is in UKP :-o
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[15:17:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Immune Cells Against COVID-19 Stay High in Number Six Months After Vaccination, Study Shows - https://sylnt.us - suspiciously-small-sample-size
[15:22:08] * Teckla is due for his booster, but can't get it yet :(
[15:24:02] <janrinok> what's the problem?
[15:37:39] <Runaway1956> https://www.techpowerup.com
[15:37:40] <systemd> ^ 03ThrottleStop (9.4.2 Beta) Download
[15:37:58] <Runaway1956> Pretty cool utility, IMO
[15:38:36] <Runaway1956> Laptop CPUs were running at ~50%, for no good reason, they weren't anywhere near hot
[15:39:07] <Runaway1956> Turns out, default settings throttle the CPU at 68 degree for some reason
[15:40:04] <Runaway1956> Throttle stop let me turn off BD_PROCHOT, now CPUs are running at 100% and temps are varying between 86 and 90
[15:40:17] <Runaway1956> Those are C temps BTW
[15:40:47] <boru> Since it's a laptop, surely you don't want the PLLs clocked at 100% frequency all the time.
[15:40:52] <janrinok> will that be reducing their lifespan
[15:41:13] <boru> Yeah, temperature wear aside, turn on a frequency scaler, at least.
[15:41:14] <janrinok> somebody picked 68% for a reason
[15:41:30] <boru> So they're not running at full clock when you're not doing anything.
[15:41:33] <Runaway1956> Well, I'm looking around still, but I know that my desktops run ~80 to 90 all the time
[15:41:48] <boru> Yeah, but they're designed for that.
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[15:42:08] <Runaway1956> Yeah - Like I say, I'm still looking around, lol
[15:42:09] <boru> They draw a lot more current.
[15:42:20] <boru> What OS is this?
[15:42:32] <boru> Actually, better yet, what CPU family?
[15:42:37] <janrinok> Windows I would guess
[15:42:38] <Runaway1956> Had to turn off turbo though, CPUs got up to 3600 mhz and 100 degrees
[15:42:49] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I'm running Windows at the moment
[15:43:12] <Runaway1956> When MacOS is running, the CPUs throttle much higher
[15:43:16] <boru> Not sure what the frequency scaling options are there, but most modern CPUs have a hardware dynamic scaler.
[15:43:39] <boru> IME, software scalers are better, though.
[15:43:41] <Runaway1956> And, the CPU is gen 9 i9
[15:43:51] <boru> Intel have speedstep, iirc.
[15:44:01] <boru> The setting's probably in the BIOs.
[15:44:20] <boru> But I'm sure there must be settings somewhere in windows to turn on a software frequency scaler.
[15:44:32] <Runaway1956> BIOS not easy to get into on MacBook - I haven't figured out how to get in there
[15:44:46] <boru> Good luck.
[15:45:01] <janrinok> use a bigger hammer
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[15:46:42] <janrinok> Runaway1956, Press "Command," "Option" and the letters "O" and "F" - from the internet
[15:47:02] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh, I'll try that next time I reboot - thanks!
[15:47:20] <janrinok> https://smallbusiness.chron.com
[15:47:21] <systemd> ^ 03How to Enter BIOS Command on a MacBook
[15:47:43] <Runaway1956> bookmarked!
[15:48:13] <janrinok> press O and F simultaneously - and with your third hand ....
[15:48:44] <Runaway1956> Yeah, lol, there are other combination that require an assistant to operate the keyboard as well!
[15:49:14] <Runaway1956> Mostly command-R and command-option suffice
[15:50:16] <Runaway1956> To be fair, I think for most options, you can press the 'power' button, then you have time to move your hand to the required keys
[15:52:23] <janrinok> meanwhile, while you are running at 100%, cook a pizza or something...
[15:52:47] <Runaway1956> Pizza cooks slow at less than 90 degrees
[15:53:38] <janrinok> most wood oven are burning much hotter than that. I use 220C and wish I had a bit more
[15:54:32] <Runaway1956> Toughing the laptop, most of it is a comfortable feel, like a nice warm cup of coffee
[15:54:56] <Runaway1956> Immediately above the CPU, it's a bit too warm to rest your hand there for long
[15:55:24] <janrinok> I can understand the choice of O and F as in the MacBook it is not called a BIOS but Open Firmware
[15:55:24] <Runaway1956> touching, not toughing, lol
[15:57:51] <janrinok> speaking of things hot etc, time for me to light my wood stove
[15:58:07] * Runaway1956 wishes he still had the woodburner
[15:58:16] <janrinok> sun is getting low in the sky and it is getting a bit cooler
[16:00:12] <Runaway1956> Oh - wow - Apparently, Rittenhouse trial is a mistrial? That from the Sun - looking for verification . . .
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[16:02:29] <Runaway1956> OK, the Sun's article doesn't exactly bear out their title
[16:02:37] <Runaway1956> No one else is making such claims -
[16:02:56] <Runaway1956> but the defense has ASKED FOR a mistrial due to prosecutor's misconduct
[16:04:24] <Runaway1956> This is perhaps the best article on a potential mistrial - https://www.westernjournal.com
[16:04:24] <systemd> ^ 03Mistrial Motion Filed: Binger Withheld HD Drone Footage from Rittenhouse Defense
[16:07:16] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[16:07:38] <Runaway1956> That hi-def video still doesn't show what the prosecution claims it shows . . .
[16:31:28] <Runaway1956> https://babylonbee.com
[16:31:29] <systemd> ^ 03Kyle Rittenhouse Asked To Step Outside And Defend The Courthouse While Verdict Is Being Read
[16:32:09] <FatPhil> :)
[16:41:14] <Runaway1956> MSN claims that Twitter is right wing propaganda
[16:41:38] <Runaway1956> If Twitter is right wing, then I'm Confucious
[16:41:43] <Runaway1956> https://www.msn.com
[16:41:44] <systemd> ^ 03MSN
[16:53:33] <Teckla> janrinok: We've already had snow here in Minnesota, U.S. :(
[16:54:07] <Teckla> Runaway1956: So, what would a mistrial mean, exactly? I assume he could be tried again?
[16:55:06] <FatPhil> had hail on oct, but that can happen all year round. Just had the lightest dusting of snow so far this year, and it didn't settle at all.
[16:55:40] <FatPhil> a couple of heavy frosts looked like they were snow with fuzzy eyes too last week
[16:58:47] <boru> We have snow in the Alps, but just frost down lower.
[17:01:20] <Teckla> FatPhil: What's your current location?
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[17:32:14] <Runaway1956> Teckla - when a trial ends in a mistrial, yes, there can be another trial
[17:32:39] <Runaway1956> but if a trial ends in mistrial WITH PREJUDICE, the charges can never be brought again
[17:33:21] <Runaway1956> that prejudice thing is the all-important criteria
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[17:33:51] <Runaway1956> Prosecutorial misconduct in this case would justify the prejudice
[17:35:52] <Runaway1956> I guess it's worth pointing out that a mistrial without prejudice favors the prosecution most times
[17:36:13] <FatPhil> Teckla: Tallinn, ~59N
[17:36:24] <Runaway1956> in this case, it appeared that Binger was actively seeking a mistrial, so that they could start all over again
[17:37:02] <Runaway1956> Is there life at 59N? Scientists are still undecided.
[17:53:44] <FatPhil> Hungry polar bears
[17:56:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Human Lineage Discovered in Indonesian Cave - https://sylnt.us
[18:11:49] <FatPhil> and new human lineages, namely homo sovieticus
[18:50:07] <FatPhil> #weather
[18:50:08] <MrPlow> Voorimehe, 10146 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Possible light rain overnight." 41/36F, Humidity: 86%, Precip: 32%, Wind ~12mph. Thu: "Light rain in the morning and afternoon." 43/35F, Humidity: 85%, Precip: 88%, Wind ~16mph. Fri: "Possible light rain in the evening and overnight." 43/37F, Humidity: 85%, Precip: 57%, Wind ~14mph.
[18:52:03] <AzumaHazuki> hmm...
[18:52:05] <AzumaHazuki> #weather
[18:52:05] <MrPlow> No location found for AzumaHazuki
[18:52:15] <AzumaHazuki> well, that's fair. i am the girl that time forgot
[18:53:23] <FatPhil> you can spoonfeed it if you need to
[18:53:27] <FatPhil> #weather buffalo
[18:53:29] <MrPlow> unnamed road, Buffalo, NY, USA - Today: "Possible light rain overnight." 57/49F, Humidity: 79%, Precip: 32%, Wind ~12mph. Thu: "Rain in the morning and afternoon." 50/30F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 94%, Wind ~15mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 37/31F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 47%, Wind ~14mph.
[18:53:50] <AzumaHazuki> hm, i thought it was unseasonably warm...
[19:02:05] <Teckla> FatPhil: Oof, that's pretty far north!
[19:02:16] <FatPhil> tell that to inz
[19:02:26] <Teckla> Where is inz?
[19:03:06] <FatPhil> 61.5N
[19:03:43] <Teckla> #weather St. Paul, MN
[19:03:44] <MrPlow> 9 St, Robert St North, Saint Paul, MN 55101, USA - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 41/26F, Humidity: 57%, Precip: 20%, Wind ~12mph. Thu: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 33/26F, Humidity: 60%, Precip: 13%, Wind ~13mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 40/29F, Humidity: 54%, Precip: 2%, Wind ~9mph.
[19:04:35] <Teckla> FatPhil: There are abominable snow monsters up there!
[19:04:53] <FatPhil> They're quite friendly after a few beers.
[19:05:58] <FatPhil> If I move back to Finland, I'm probably most likely to look at Oulu, as they're still at least pretending to do winters up there. That's near the armpit with Sweden.
[19:11:04] <Runaway1956> The motion for mistrial seems to be gaining momentum - some fishy crap has happened with the video files being compressed, etc
[19:11:17] <Runaway1956> Prosecution wants to blame Android
[19:12:11] <FatPhil> An aqcuittal would be preferable to a mistrial with prejudice.
[19:12:40] <FatPhil> Prosecutor panhandling by the end of the week would be optimal.
[19:12:47] <Runaway1956> Probably -
[19:13:08] <Runaway1956> I'd like to hear "Not guilty on all counts" from the Jury's lips
[19:19:10] <Runaway1956> Oh my. It's looking more like shenanigans. The prosecution's video metadata does NOT match the metadata (including the file name) provided to the defense
[19:21:55] <Teckla> FatPhil: Do you speak multiple languages?
[19:22:43] <Teckla> I haven't followed the trial at all, nor do I know any details of the actual events. What do you all think, should he be found guilty, or not guilty?
[19:23:17] <Runaway1956> It must be obvious by now that I think Kyle is not guilty, across the board
[19:23:19] <Teckla> If there's a mistrial, or he's found not guilty, there may be some riots, looting, fires, etc. in cities nearby me. :(
[19:23:26] <Runaway1956> this has been a political prosecution
[19:23:40] <Teckla> On the other hand, it's getting colder and colder, which tends to reduce the riots, looting, fires, etc.
[19:23:55] <Runaway1956> If thre are more riots, looting, and arson, then a lot more Kyles will have the obligation to shoot rioters
[19:24:28] <Runaway1956> obligation, or opportunity, depending on your viewpoint
[19:24:28] <Teckla> Runaway1956: Do you think there is simply insufficient evidence to convict?
[19:24:53] <FatPhil> 5/6 are clear not-guilty, I'd even say some could have been dismissed at discovery. I still think one of the charges potentially had teeth, though.
[19:25:00] <Runaway1956> Evidence of what, exactly? There are tons of evidence that Kyle defended himself when attacked
[19:25:14] <Runaway1956> Which is that FatPhil?
[19:25:23] <FatPhil> negligent something something
[19:25:28] <FatPhil> or something like that
[19:25:51] <FatPhil> I didn't know it was even a charge being brought until 2 days ago.
[19:25:59] <Runaway1956> If there is negligence in any of the videos, it is negligence on the part of rioters
[19:26:34] <Runaway1956> In an ideal situation, Kyle would never have point his weapon in the direction of anyone at all
[19:26:46] <FatPhil> maybe some "endangerment", but I'm not sure about that.
[19:26:54] <Runaway1956> however, in crap situations like Kyle found himself in, the weapon has to point somewhere
[19:27:30] <Runaway1956> I think you're referring to claims that Kyle pointed his weapon at the tall skinny guy - name escapes me at the moment
[19:27:35] <Runaway1956> Ziminski
[19:28:05] <Runaway1956> however, close up slow motion of the video that the state relies on fails to establish that Kyle ever pointed his weapon at Ziminsky
[19:28:35] <Runaway1956> mostly because both Ziminsky and his wife are hidden from view when it is claimed that the weapon was pointed at them
[19:29:49] <Runaway1956> In American law, if the prosecution can't "PROVE" that the even actually happened, then the event never happened
[19:29:53] <AzumaHazuki> the facts say he acted in self-defense, BUT, he also went looking for trouble without knowing what trouble actually entails
[19:30:19] <Teckla> Here in the U.S., we have a long, proud history of "race riots" happening periodically, going way, way back.
[19:30:35] <AzumaHazuki> he's a whiny little bitchass (just like Runaway, though less so since he actually physically went and started shit), so no wonder Runaway's sucking his virtual cock over the internet
[19:30:39] <Runaway1956> 'Zumi wants to weigh in on a subject - despite the fact she has me blocked, so can't actually participate in a discussion
[19:30:51] <Runaway1956> Whiny bitchass has me blocked, remember?
[19:31:46] <Teckla> Now, now. Let's all get along, folks.
[19:32:12] <Runaway1956> As for race riots - yeah, we have a history.
[19:32:32] <Runaway1956> One of the most shamefel chapters in that history was the Tulsa massacre
[19:32:55] <AzumaHazuki> yeah no. when we play by the rules and take the high road, it just makes the psychopaths think we're that much weaker and more deserving of being harmed
[19:33:13] <AzumaHazuki> i wish rittenhouse had gotten the trouble he went looking for
[19:33:27] <Runaway1956> I never understood - even when the darkies confine themselves to the "wrong" side of the railroad tracks, Whitey still feels the need to tear their shit up
[19:34:05] <Runaway1956> Someone tell 'Zumi that Kyle dealt properly with troubled convicts quite properly
[19:34:40] <Teckla> Both political sides in the U.S. are so extreme these days, so off the rails, I am starting to become numb, and not care.
[19:35:13] <Runaway1956> Blame the cultural revolution - so much like Mao's cultural revolution
[19:36:16] <AzumaHazuki> no, no they are not. the democrats are republicans right of reagan, and the republicans are the christian taliban
[19:36:20] <Runaway1956> also, 'Zumi says "play by the rules", but she doesn't even understand the rules.
[19:36:27] <AzumaHazuki> don't be stupid. see reality for what it is
[19:36:39] <Runaway1956> "Don't be stupid" while she spouts stupidity
[19:38:11] <Teckla> At work the other day, someone said, "So-and-so is a regular expression ninja." Someone else said, "Don't use that word, it's racist."
[19:38:18] <Teckla> Sorry, but, yeah, the left has gone off the rails somewhat, too. :(
[19:39:06] <Runaway1956> It would be racist of me to eat soul food, don't you know?
[19:39:06] <Teckla> I was talking to a friend of mine, about the population of the U.S. I was saying, to slow the destruction of our environment, we should strive for a static population, which of course, would involve limiting some immigration.
[19:39:20] <Teckla> His response, "You are just saying that because you don't like brown people, because you're racist." He is, of course, a democrat.
[19:39:44] <Teckla> So, yeah, unfortunately, the modern left has gone right off the rails too. The right has been off the rails for several decades.
[19:39:48] <Runaway1956> Historically, a land has belonged to the people on it
[19:39:55] <Runaway1956> Democrats want to deny that
[19:40:06] <Runaway1956> they say, this land belongs to whoever wants it
[19:40:52] <Teckla> Anyway, I am becoming numb to it all, let the extremist crazies fight it out.
[19:40:53] * Runaway1956 is happy to have never been on any rails anywhere - he just drives across them from time to time
[19:44:43] * Teckla is just tired of politics, politics,
[19:44:46] <Teckla> politics,
[19:44:52] <Teckla> ...repeat ad nauseum.
[19:45:09] <Teckla> Nobody in modern America can shut up for a single fucking day about politics.
[19:51:37] <Bytram> Teckla: Nobody in America? Since I can, and often do, "shut up for a single fucking day about politics", your statement appears to be false.
[19:52:45] <Teckla> Bytram: The hyperbole was for effect, a rhetorical trick. ;)
[19:54:23] * Bytram remembers old geometry and calculus classes and shudders
[19:54:46] <Teckla> a^2 + b^2 = c^2
[19:56:52] <Runaway1956> The Geneva Conventions outlawed hyperballs decades ago
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[20:05:01] <SoyCow2026> HUllah faggots
[20:05:07] <SoyCow2026> How ya doin'?
[20:06:03] <SoyCow2026> I just sent a whisper kiss to the biggest faggot in the channel
[20:06:10] <SoyCow2026> Well, the second-biggest
[20:06:14] <SoyCow2026> HAHAHAHAHAH
[20:06:31] <SoyCow2026> You know what sucks? Living next to Mexicans, that fucking sucks.
[20:06:43] <SoyCow2026> Obtuse animals, raised by and addicted to noise.
[20:07:15] <Bytram> .quiet SoyCow2026
[20:07:15] -!- mode/#soylent [+q *!*@193.160.jjg.qr] by Imogen
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[20:37:12] <AzumaHazuki> that's a start. now make +q permanent channel-wide and allow voice to registered nicks, and we've 90+% solved the troll problem
[20:40:52] -!- Ohlook_Jews_censorsh [Ohlook_Jews_censorsh!~c23c5612@194.60.wu.ph] has joined #soylent
[20:40:59] <Ohlook_Jews_censorsh> Oh look, Jews like censorship.
[20:41:04] <Ohlook_Jews_censorsh> Color me surprised.
[20:41:30] <Ohlook_Jews_censorsh> Now BAN me you hooknosed beady-eyed rats!
[20:41:50] <Ohlook_Jews_censorsh> (laughs at my username in right sidebar)
[20:42:39] <AzumaHazuki> you heard the man =P he's a masochist or something
[20:42:41] Ohlook_Jews_censorsh is now known as the
[20:43:15] <the> gimp text parser
[20:43:35] <the> it was supposed to be "the jew slayer" or something like that
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[20:48:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hospitals are at a High Risk of Cyberattacks, but Patients Don’t Realize It - https://sylnt.us
[20:52:33] <Runaway1956> 'Zumi doesn't understand the concept of "front office"
[20:52:51] <Runaway1956> When people have a problem they are encouraged to come here -
[20:53:00] <Runaway1956> they shouldn't have to wait to be voiced
[20:56:54] <Runaway1956> What we really need is a Terminator bot
[20:57:21] <Runaway1956> A little dude who can follow the wires and fibers to the precise device being used to post spam
[20:57:50] <Runaway1956> and come flying out of the screen at relatavistic speed, straight into the eyes or forehead of the spammer
[20:58:17] <Runaway1956> "You've been terminated. Have a nice eternity."
[20:58:42] <Runaway1956> Of course, the CIA and NSA would steal our bot for their own sinister purposes.
[21:00:08] <chromas> They're probably the ones running the jewbot
[21:00:53] <chromas> Just need Bill Cosby to pop through the wires like in Ghost Dad
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[21:08:07] <SoyCow7113> Some people say that the only thing worse than a fake mexican,
[21:08:09] <SoyCow7113> is a real one.
[21:08:21] <SoyCow7113> What is worse than a fake Jew, is a Black Jew
[21:08:35] <Bytram> .kick SoyCow7113
[21:08:35] -!- SoyCow7113 was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(Bytram (martyb)) No reason given]
[21:11:37] <Bytram> .quiet *!*@23.81.pgp.kpr
[21:11:37] -!- mode/#soylent [+q *!*@23.81.pgp.kpr] by Imogen
[21:12:03] <Bytram> .quiet
[21:12:13] <FatPhil> PM is fucked in lunix. g/f's laptop refuses to pm-hibernate, so not been able to try the id card reader on her lappy.
[21:12:32] <FatPhil> lots of dmesg noise, but then it does nothing.
[21:13:12] <Bytram> FatPhil: isn't that what you wanted? ;)
[21:13:19] <Runaway1956> id card reader? That's similar to fingerprint reader, but it reads your card instead?
[21:13:58] * Runaway1956 will try soon to get fingerprint reader working in Windoze
[21:15:31] <chromas> You need swap space for hibernation
[21:20:01] <Runaway1956> true - I gave the OS 1/5 times the RAM for swap - and still don't use hibernation
[21:21:40] <Runaway1956> make that 1.5 times the RAM
[21:26:18] <chromas> if X can be many times less than Y and still be positive, then Shirley you can have 1/5 times the RAM and have it work out
[21:26:24] <chromas> or maybe it needs to be 1/5 more
[21:26:46] * Runaway1956 would prefer 20% more
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[21:46:11] <SoyCow8059> Hack me, you glowniggers
[21:46:36] <SoyCow8059> You won't get shit except for pirated '90's action movies and Metallica albums.
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[23:02:42] <SoyCow8277> FUCK YOU NIGGER
[23:02:53] <SoyCow8277> You are really pissing us the FUCK OFF
[23:03:06] <SoyCow8277> Better get PUMPIN
[23:04:49] <Tekk_> Well that's an easy one.
[23:04:52] Tekk_ is now known as Tekk
[23:05:14] <Teckla> SoyCow8277: Bored, eh?
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[23:11:34] <Teckla> AzumaHazuki: Anything -- *anything* -- that allows anonymous/unverified users ends up having a lot of suck come along with it...
[23:11:39] <Teckla> Most of the time, such places are not worth visiting...
[23:12:03] <AzumaHazuki> i think my solution will block most of this idiot's diarrhea though
[23:12:06] <Teckla> *At least* make them register a throwaway email account... that gets rid of 99% of the "yuck"
[23:12:39] <AzumaHazuki> apparently the admins are utterly spineless and dumber than a chocolate teapot to boot, though :v
[23:12:59] <Teckla> Well, I agree strongly with the SN admins on their anonymous policy, but... not my web site, heh
[23:13:11] <Teckla> s/agree/disagree/
[23:13:11] <SedBot> <Teckla> Well, I disagree strongly with the SN admins on their anonymous policy, but... not my web site, heh
[23:13:39] * AzumaHazuki wonders if this spammer is the impression Bytram et. al want to give of "SN's landing site"
[23:18:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mathematicians Derive the Formulas for Boundary Layer Turbulence - https://sylnt.us - chaos-and-Manelbrot
[23:33:08] <chromas> "haha admins are spineless because they won't bend to my will!"
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