#soylent | Logs for 2021-04-15

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[00:31:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The FBI Just Snuck into Computers All Over the Country to Stop a Hacking Campaign - https://sylnt.us - the-ends-justify-the-means?
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[01:35:19] <AzumaHazuki> ugh, i don't think i have three more nights of this in me...am exhausted and feeling run-down already after just the one
[01:35:26] <AzumaHazuki> well...time to face the music @_@
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[01:36:27] <Bytram> =g quote COIN
[01:36:28] <systemd> https://finance.yahoo.com - Bitcoin USD (BTC-USD) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo ...;
[01:36:37] <Bytram> =g quote COIN -yahoo
[01:36:38] <systemd> https://www.cnbc.com - COIN: Coinbase Global Inc - Stock Price, Quote and News - CNBC
[01:36:47] <Bytram> =g quote COIN -yahoo -cnbc
[01:36:48] <systemd> https://seekingalpha.com - Coinbase Global, Inc. (COIN) Stock Price Today, Quote & News ...;
[01:37:02] <Bytram> =g quote COIN -yahoo -cnbc -seekingalpha
[01:37:03] <systemd> https://www.azquotes.com - TOP 25 COINS QUOTES (of 519) | A-Z Quotes
[01:37:35] <Bytram> =g quote COIN -yahoo -cnbc -seekingalpha -azquote
[01:37:36] <systemd> https://www.azquotes.com - TOP 25 COINS QUOTES (of 519) | A-Z Quotes
[01:37:42] <Bytram> =g quote COIN -yahoo -cnbc -seekingalpha -azquotes
[01:37:43] <systemd> https://www.theguardian.com - War of the words: HG Wells coin also features false quote | Books
[02:40:50] <Runaway1956> A watched clock never boils.
[02:41:29] * Runaway1956 tosses Bytram a silver coin
[02:56:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Long can Epic Afford to Throw Money at the Epic Games Store? - https://sylnt.us - but-we'll-make-it-up-in-volume!
[04:48:38] <chromas> What sort of thing makes sudo not accept my password even after I su and then reset my password?
[04:59:13] <inz> you're not in sudoers?
[04:59:54] <inz> (nor in any of the groups there)
[05:03:25] <inz> or you're trying to enter root's password isntead of your own?
[05:27:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crypto Watershed: Coinbase Shares Open at $381 on NASDAQ; Market Cap Exceeds $100 Billion - https://sylnt.us - that's-a-whole-lot-of-nothing
[05:36:23] <chromas> Same password I've been using for months on it
[05:36:32] <chromas> works now
[05:36:50] <chromas> I did put it in wrong the first few times but then I was doing the right one
[05:37:03] <chromas> Maybe sudo continues to say it's wrong just to spite me
[05:42:06] <chromas> or perhaps there's a feature that assumes I'm just guessing so it lies 'til I take a break
[06:16:27] <FatPhil> =g $COIN ticker
[06:16:27] <systemd> https://coingeek.com - Coinbase will trade under the ticker $COIN - CoinGeek
[06:17:52] <FatPhil> sudo shouldn't let you know why you failed, as that leaks information about the sudoers conf
[06:19:14] <chromas> IT just said "Sorry, try again."
[06:19:50] <chromas> The important thing though is the password was correct after the first few attempts but then it lied
[07:57:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Azimuth Security Helped the FBI Crack San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone - https://sylnt.us - brute-force-can-be-an-option
[07:58:22] <chromas> Wasn't that like five years ago?
[09:03:41] <Runaway1956> chromas - have you checked your caps lock?
[09:03:53] <Runaway1956> That, or maybe a stuck key
[09:05:04] <Runaway1956> A stuck key got me recently, tried logging in three times, and FINALLY noticed that my x-character password had x+3 or 4 characters
[09:05:28] * Runaway1956 had to get the Cheeto vacuum out of the closet
[09:41:18] <FatPhil> dodgy shift keys are my bane too
[09:44:08] <boru> When I make the next batch of boruboards, I'll send you one.
[09:44:53] <boru> L_shift is a reverse ISO layout return key which takes the capslock slot as well, and switches are easilly replaceable.
[09:45:08] <boru> And you can flash your own firmware. It's essentially a keyboard eval kit.
[09:45:25] <boru> I just need to finish laying out the new PCB design.
[09:46:20] <boru> It's got PS/2 and USB outputs, you just select which you want via a dip switch.
[09:48:44] <FatPhil> sounds great apart from the wired part. kb/mouse have to be wireless for me now.
[09:49:07] <boru> Ah, fair enough.
[09:49:26] <boru> I hate BT, so it's not likely to happen here, alas.
[09:54:11] <inz> FatPhil, my banes are dodgy shift pinkies (counts as a pebkac, I suppose)
[09:54:53] <FatPhil> pinkies like claws - that'll be where the arthritis bites first, I'm sure
[10:18:32] <Ingar> just got a Logitech MX keys, excellent keyboard, doubles as blunt weapon
[10:20:23] <Ingar> FatPhil: for my main desktop, I reverted to wired
[10:20:51] <Ingar> I was fed up with running out of juice while in the middle of something
[10:21:16] <Ingar> and AAA batterijs are a nono
[10:22:01] <boru> Posted on another net, gave me a chuckle: https://twitter.com
[10:22:02] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[10:22:12] <boru> Normally I despise twitter, but that was good.
[10:22:39] <Ingar> like any sewer publication, there's sometimes funny stuff on twatter
[10:24:45] <Ingar> let's get to the business of the day: cleaning out the backup PC :D
[10:25:38] <Ingar> was going to install an SSD as system drive when I noticed the large clouds of dust and filth
[10:26:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sierra Nevada Corporation Spins Off Space Division Into New Subsidiary, Sierra Space - https://sylnt.us
[10:57:20] <Ingar> ew far more dirt than expected
[10:57:31] <Ingar> but, installation is going to be easier than expected :D
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[12:02:29] <Bytram> Ingar: Good morning! Out of curiosity, which SSD did you get?
[12:03:18] <Ingar> samsung 870 EVO because it was cheap
[12:03:24] * Bytram has 4 x 1 TB Samsung V-NAND SSD 860 EVO
[12:03:41] <Ingar> 860 EVO >> 870 EVO
[12:04:11] <Bytram> So far, no problems seen at all... and such a HUGE difference over spinning rust
[12:04:24] <Ingar> that's the purpose here
[12:04:37] <Ingar> it's a living room PC connected to the TV
[12:04:45] <Bytram> really? I'm curious why you things 860 >> 870?
[12:04:49] <Ingar> still using spinning rust, the last win 10 update took forever
[12:05:09] <Bytram> IIRC, the 760 is a TLC (three-level cell)
[12:05:09] <Ingar> Bytram: the 870 is QLC all the way
[12:05:15] <Bytram> Aha!
[12:05:57] <Ingar> my desktop actually has an 850PRO and an 860PRO
[12:06:40] <Bytram> I figure and speeds and densities improve, at a later time I could just gang these up into a RAID in a NAS or somesuch
[12:06:44] <Ingar> NVMe is the game changer though
[12:06:52] <Bytram> nice!
[12:06:59] <Ingar> for NAS, I still use spinning rust
[12:07:16] <Ingar> I only have gigabit network, so a faster NAS would still be networkspeed bound
[12:07:44] <Ingar> (granted, my NAS is a Ryzen with 64Gig)
[12:07:49] <Bytram> nod nod... would be overkill in my surrent system (which could not accept them anyway): Dell Latitude 6410
[12:07:57] <Bytram> whoah! Noice!!!
[12:08:26] <Ingar> imho, just load an old box with spinning rust and put in all the RAM you can
[12:08:37] <Bytram> Wanna trade? ;)
[12:08:41] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:08:55] <Ingar> it's a Ryzen 1700 so not the newest :p
[12:09:32] <Bytram> I'm not certain what I have for a proc in this one... nor am I certain how to find out under linux
[12:09:44] <Ingar> it had a bunch of early Ryzen adopter issues but it's been running rather stable now
[12:09:53] <Ingar> Bytram: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:10:12] <Bytram> yowza!
[12:10:48] <Ingar> the machinie I'm upgrading is a AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor ;)
[12:11:06] <Bytram> >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540 @ 2.53GHz
[12:11:07] <Bytram> cpu family : 6
[12:11:20] <Ingar> wow, I have no idea what that is
[12:11:57] <Ingar> 2010? :D
[12:12:07] <Bytram> mobile Intel i5 proc
[12:12:25] <Ingar> it's even older than that phenom :D
[12:13:12] <Bytram> sounds about right... got it (laptop) for $25 and a thrift store. Came w/ no hard disk, so splurged and got the 860.
[12:13:48] <Ingar> and the truth is, for 'normal usage' any PC will do these days
[12:13:57] <Bytram> much better than the core 2 duo it replaced
[12:15:11] <Ingar> trying to manually migrate the windows to the new disk
[12:15:19] <Ingar> might get 'interesting'
[12:17:27] <Bytram> yep. Be sure to copy down the get and copy down the Product Key on a piece of paper
[12:17:47] <Bytram> yep. Be sure to get and copy down the Product Key on a piece of paper
[12:17:50] <Ingar> no need
[12:17:57] <Bytram> in BIOS?
[12:18:06] <Ingar> I'm cloning the windows partition to the new drive
[12:18:30] <Bytram> yep, but drive1 ==? drive2
[12:18:48] <Ingar> just resize the windows parition afterwards
[12:19:16] <Ingar> or upfront, if required :D
[12:19:56] <Bytram> just a strong suggestion based on my experience. It's a lot easier to have it in hand -- and not need it -- than to need it and not be able to get it.
[12:20:37] <Ingar> it's even easier not to use a key
[12:21:19] <Bytram> Seemed fine for a while and then mine ran into a problem and BSOD'd on me... it's what got me to finally move over to Linux
[12:21:39] <Ingar> it's a dual-boot ;)
[12:21:44] * Bytram started with DOS 3.0
[12:21:49] <Ingar> ha
[12:21:58] <Ingar> you beat me by 3 rfevisioins
[12:22:00] <Ingar> DOS 3.3
[12:22:16] <Bytram> I quickly moved up to 3.1
[12:22:58] <Ingar> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com
[12:23:02] <Ingar> my first PC
[12:23:10] <Ingar> well, my parent's ofc ;)
[12:23:21] <Ingar> the shoebox to the right is the 20MB external HD :D
[12:23:25] <Bytram> Before that, I had C64, Atari 800, and an OSI C4P (the last one came with 4 KB of static RAM)
[12:23:45] <Bytram> oh, and used a cassette for offline storage
[12:23:54] <Ingar> I hade some family into C64
[12:24:21] <Ingar> but we never had a 'computer' or console before that PC
[12:24:57] <Bytram> nice! I miss the amber display I had on my 80286 (the one running MS/DOS 3.0)
[12:25:27] <Ingar> we have come a long way :D
[12:26:24] * Bytram first put hand to TTY in ~1972 connected via dialup 110-baud modem to a DEC PDP/8
[12:27:10] <Ingar> in 1972, my dad hadn't even met my mom :D
[12:27:33] <Bytram> that had actual CORE memory -- I could see each individual core on a memory "card"
[12:28:01] <Bytram> funny... me neither! (and still haven't ;)
[12:28:20] <Bytram> (hope that got a chuckle)
[12:29:16] <Ingar> ;)
[12:29:55] <Ingar> Bytram: at the unhiversity, they had this corridor known as the computer museum. store the size of a cabinet and all that
[12:30:04] <Bytram> One of the things that I love about this site are all the people I've gotten to meet... my life is so much richer as a result!
[12:30:04] <Ingar> *storage
[12:30:29] <Bytram> yep!
[12:31:30] <Ingar> partition copied, more messing with computers ahead
[12:31:41] <Bytram> IIRC the PDP/8 had ~ 24 K words (12 bit) of memory. And it was a time-sharing system!
[12:31:50] <Ingar> I'll leave you http://ingar.intranifty.net ;)
[12:31:51] <Bytram> best of luck to ya!
[12:32:23] <Ingar> thanks!
[12:38:08] <Bytram> =yt HMAS Supply twerk
[12:38:09] <systemd> https://youtube.com - NAVY TWERK | Australian Navy under fire for dance routine at launch of HMAS Supply (03:51; 21,385 views; 👍125 👎24)
[12:54:59] <Bytram> Ingar: Didn't have meccano (sp?) here; I had an Erector Set, which was pretty much all screws, nuts, girders, axles, wheels, and a *lot* of imagination! Though they later on added a battery-powered motor which could be used to make, say, a crane.
[12:55:08] <Bytram> =w Erector Set
[12:55:09] <systemd> the classic Erector Set; for current developments under the &quot;Erector by Meccano&quot; brand name, see the Meccano article. Basic Erector parts included various - https://en.wikipedia.org
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[13:02:02] <Ingar> pwned by windows update
[13:02:54] <AzumaHazuki> oh, again?
[13:03:55] <Ingar> booted off spinning rusted instead of the cloned partition on ssd
[13:04:02] <Ingar> it greated me with windows updates :D
[13:07:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Confirms That Leaked Video Is Part of UFO Investigation - https://sylnt.us
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[14:21:56] <Teckla> (sfw) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com
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[14:23:51] <AzumaHazuki> shit, sounds like the seven horsemen hang out on SN
[14:24:08] <AzumaHazuki> well, flat earther got lost trying to get here but the other 6?
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[14:42:02] <Ingar> I miss the great burning eye of politics in the background
[14:53:22] <Bytram> =w Sauron
[14:53:23] <systemd> Sauron (pronounced /ˈsaʊrɒn/) is the title character and the main antagonist, through the forging of the One Ring, of J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the - https://en.wikipedia.org
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[15:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> =submit https://www.rt.com Personally, I'll pass. The world's plenty weird enough with my senses reporting accurately. Quite interesting and great potential for folks who wouldn't mind that kind of thing though.
[15:04:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Magic Mushroom Treatment on Par With Pharma Drugs for Combating Depression, Study Finds" (17p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:11:44] <AzumaHazuki> huh, neat. i do know ketamine has the potential to treat depression, and it's quick
[15:12:07] <AzumaHazuki> it's a dissociative anaesthetic, but its mechanism of action (n-methyl-d-aspartate receptor antagonism) may explain why
[15:12:38] <AzumaHazuki> ...on the other hand, bone broth and avoiding excess dietary d-glutamate may help for the same reasons soooo~
[15:12:47] <boru> Psilocybin and LSD also help extremely well with cluster headaches.
[15:13:06] <boru> Which are really not very pleasant at all.
[15:13:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> so does spending time by a body of water regularly. and being in the sun.
[15:13:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing++
[15:13:50] <Bender> karma - fishing: 29
[15:14:01] <boru> I'll agree with you there.
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[15:15:00] <boru> Well, for regular headaches, anyway.
[15:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nature vs nurture debate finally definitively resolved thanks to the irish
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[15:15:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt YTaUc6H9aPg
[15:15:58] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Hilarious 6-Year-Old Irish Girl Just Wants to Go to The Pub | NowThis
[15:16:10] * boru chuckles.
[15:16:39] <boru> She probably just wants her parents to go, so they'll stop feckin annoying her.
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[15:18:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> "I'm six and me own mudder won't let me go t'd pub!"
[15:19:18] <boru> I'll have a listen. From your spelling, it sounds like she's from Dublin.
[15:19:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> never trust my spelling
[15:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it's fairly funny
[15:20:16] <boru> The mother sounds like she's from the midlands.
[15:20:42] <boru> The kid's accent is mixed.
[15:20:57] <AzumaHazuki> gods above, below, and in between what a night. i should try and sleep. today was even more insane than yesterday
[15:21:05] <AzumaHazuki> this is going to end in medical trouble ><
[15:21:55] <boru> You should probably try to wind down a bit, first.
[15:22:11] <AzumaHazuki> the melatonin might be kicking in finally
[15:22:23] <AzumaHazuki> i try not to take anything but this is kind of an emergency
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[15:22:58] <boru> Ashwagandha daily is pretty good, also. It's a cortisol inhibitor.
[15:23:02] <boru> Oh well, nevermind.
[15:23:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> 3 stooges anesthetic ftw
[15:23:47] <boru> A bottle of whiskey and a rubber mallet?
[15:24:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, just the mallet.
[15:24:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> rubber being optional
[15:24:28] <boru> Ah but sure the whiskey will give you the motivation to give it a good swing.
[15:24:31] <boru> Especially on someone else.
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[15:36:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 100 Million More IoT Devices Are Exposed—and They Won’t Be the Last - https://sylnt.us - zombie-apocalypse
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[18:07:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Get Your Head in the Game -- One Gene's Role in Cranial Development - https://sylnt.us - gives-new-meanings-to-"hard-headed"
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[20:37:45] <Teckla> https://www.youtube.com
[20:37:46] <systemd> ^ 03New generation of webcam? The human eye webcam.
[20:38:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Unveils its Own Java Distribution - https://sylnt.us - java-is-dying-nobody-uses-java
[20:56:40] <Bytram> =g "Jeremy Schnittman" black hole visualization
[20:56:41] <systemd> https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov - GMS: Black Hole Accretion Disk Visualization
[21:02:54] <Bytram> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[21:02:55] <systemd> Error: DOI not found
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[22:09:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh Look, I was right about something again.
[22:09:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Chester: “I don't know. I'm not sure. I have a feeling that it’s going to be like, constantly showing videos of decline in ice, and weather warming up, and like the effects it’s having on the economy--”
[22:09:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Veritas Journalist: “Who decides that?”
[22:09:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Chester: “Head of the network.”
[22:10:01] <Ethanol-fueled> [...]
[22:10:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Veritas Journalist: “So, that's like the next--”
[22:10:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Chester: “Pandemic-like story that we’ll beat to death, but that one's got longevity. You know what I mean? Like there's a definitive ending to the pandemic. It'll taper off to a point that it's not a problem anymore. Climate change can take years, so they'll [CNN will] probably be able to milk that quite a bit.”
[22:10:50] <Ethanol-fueled> In unrelated news. O'Keefe and Project Veritas have been permabanned from Twitter.
[22:10:56] <chromas> But those same media outlets told me not to trust that guy
[22:12:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, I would tell you why, but I'm not in the mood for a +b now
[22:12:25] <Ethanol-fueled> or whatever smart people call it.
[22:12:30] * chromas nods in foreign aid
[22:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, you can bitch about politics all you like.
[22:13:17] <Ethanol-fueled> That's all teh bitching I have for today.
[22:13:24] <Ethanol-fueled> More good news after Tucker, though
[22:13:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> personal attacks and drunken racist tirades are the verboten stuff
[22:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> in this channel anyway. anything you make yourself is your rules so long as you're not breaking any laws we'll get in trouble for.
[22:15:15] * TheMightyBuzzard points at good ole #shitlords as an example
[22:15:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice. Well, gonna bail now. Maybe be back later
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[23:07:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Agromining: Farming of Metal-Extracting Trees and Plants Could Replace Mining - https://sylnt.us - how-well-do-they-attract-lightning?
[23:41:35] <pinchy> cant wait to get my vaccine passport woot
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