#soylent | Logs for 2020-12-30
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[23:37:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Develop New Way to Break Reciprocity Law - https://sylnt.us - one-way-xor-another
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[21:08:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Better Kind of Cybersecurity Strategy - https://sylnt.us - be-certain-of-your-target
[19:53:52] <pinchy> Will not protect the wearer against airborne transmissible infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of seal or inadequate filtration.
[19:36:59] <systemd> ^ 03COVID-19 - Regulations | Occupational Safety and Health Administration ( https://www.osha.gov )
[19:36:58] <pinchy> trying to dig thru https://www.osha.gov
[19:36:22] <pinchy> so these cloth masks are in violation of OSHA for employers? since they dont protect against disease
[18:36:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Will Run Into Trouble Setting Up a Martian Government, Lawyers Say - https://sylnt.us - mars-ho!
[18:14:16] <FatPhil> 'At least three shipments of Moderna Inc.’s Covid-19 vaccine arrived in Texas last week with signs the shots had strayed from their required temperature range ...'
[18:13:37] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. Vaccination Lags; U.K. Clears Astra’s Shot: Virus Update
[18:13:35] <FatPhil> https://www.bloomberg.com
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[17:37:21] <requerdanos> toõ late.
[17:37:10] <FatPhil> Don't file that information away in your brain, you will never need it!
[17:36:57] <FatPhil> the Estonian tell, apart from it looking like drunken Finnish, is the use of an o-tilde.
[17:36:15] <requerdanos> I can barely read russian, and couldn't pick estonian out of a police lineup.
[17:32:04] <FatPhil> I can read shelf tags and ingredient lists in supermarkets, and know the numbers, days, and politenesses, but that's it.
[17:31:27] <requerdanos> so better than mine by leaps and bounds in both cases.
[17:31:12] <FatPhil> My estonian's utterly terrible, and my russian unimaginably worse.
[17:30:36] <FatPhil> i also notice that in the last year, the number of UK nationals has grown by 14%. Some people are a bit late on their brexit, it seems.
[17:30:22] <requerdanos> how's your estonian? and your russian?
[17:29:58] <FatPhil> Just been trawling through the most recent official Tallinn stats, and indeed there's a district that't 62% .ru, 5% .ua, and 3% .by ethnically. I've been there a few times, and it seems like more (I've almost never heard any Estonian there)
[17:23:51] <FatPhil> No point in having a prior of 0.5, and then having to update it to a posterior of 0.99, if you can just go in with a prior of 0.99, eh?
[17:06:00] <requerdanos> sure, that leads to good hypotheses which leads to good science
[17:05:22] <FatPhil> Me, prejudge? Never! However, one can utilise the predictive nature in order to have expectations that surprise one the least. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
[17:04:16] <FatPhil> separated at birth? https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com https://southpark-online.nl
[17:03:08] <requerdanos> would almost allow one to pre-judge many things based on that one data point, huh
[16:50:19] <FatPhil> the correlations are so numerous, and so strong.
[16:49:50] <requerdanos> like many trump supporters here. huh.
[16:48:08] <FatPhil> On xmas morning (which admittedly probably wasn't xmas for them) the main street near us only had russian speakers on it, and the only 2 masks in sight were on my g/f & I. Literally 100/100 russian speakers couldn't be arsed to wear masks.
[16:43:05] <requerdanos> makes sense.
[16:42:24] <FatPhil> attitutes, literacy, scientific literacy, all kinds of correlated traits.
[16:41:49] <FatPhil> Some districts must be well over 50% russian speaking here.
[16:41:48] <requerdanos> ah, culture -> ideology
[16:41:25] <FatPhil> I'd say the Estonian speakers vs. Russian speakers here maps onto the Blues vs. Reds in the US.
[16:41:17] <requerdanos> precious few russian speakers here. I know two, maybe three.
[16:40:38] <FatPhil> One of our independent national newspapers had an intersting article today. They didn't explicitly draw the conclusion, but provided all the numbers to enable those with brains to draw it, that there is huge correlation between percentage of russian speakers in a district, and the percentage of infected people.
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[16:26:48] <Bytram> laters!
[16:26:44] <Bytram> time to go
[16:18:17] <FatPhil> Ugh, SN dies just as I feel the urge to post shorter sharper ones...
[16:16:53] <FatPhil> Yay, the idiots are downmodding me, that clearly means they got my barbs.
[16:07:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AES-NI XTS To See 2~3x Performance Recovery After Regressing Hard From Retpolines - https://sylnt.us - getting-a-boost
[15:46:41] <Bytram> afk
[15:46:33] * Bytram intends to take a piece of peace with him
[15:46:07] <Bytram> tx!
[15:46:03] <requerdanos> :Peace:
[15:46:00] <Bytram> biab (but then only briefly before heading out the door)
[15:45:53] <AzumaHazuki> good luck, Bytram
[15:45:20] <Bytram> unfortunately, I need to get going
[15:44:52] <Bytram> they are fortunate to have you
[15:44:46] <AzumaHazuki> as opposed to "well, there's a small shift differential so why not"
[15:44:31] <AzumaHazuki> we're understaffed, overworked, and apparently i'm the lone weirdo on the entire team who enthusiastically likes nights
[15:44:20] <SedBot> <Bytram> hence my qualifiers: learn from others who are genuinely proficient and thorough
[15:44:20] <Bytram> s/ e/ le/
[15:43:57] <Bytram> hence my qualifiers: earn from others who are genuinely proficient and thorough
[15:42:32] <AzumaHazuki> there are two good trainers but they don't hardly ever do nights, and in any case things move too fast for them to babysit me
[15:41:59] <AzumaHazuki> no two of them did things alike, most of them were constantly shadowing critical sites...uuuugh
[15:41:43] <Runaway1956_> Gotta go back 102 years to find anything comparable, unless you're African
[15:41:43] <AzumaHazuki> the problem with the IV training is i had eight different trainers and six were utter shit, and even as "the new girl" i knew they were utter shit
[15:41:01] <Runaway1956_> and that was nowhere close to this
[15:40:53] <Runaway1956_> The nearest thing to COVID in any of our lifetimes was when AIDS was becoming "popular"
[15:40:40] <Bytram> though I can often figure stuff out on my own (I'm a walking, talking permutation generator) I certainly appreciate being able to learn from others who are genuinely proficient and thorough
[15:40:12] <AzumaHazuki> so much demand, so much need @_@ 30 year veterans say they've never seen anything like it
[15:39:07] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:38:21] <AzumaHazuki> apparently despite the utterly shit training my IV technique is surprisingly good, but i'm too slow to keep up with demand because the motions are unfamiliar. plus, y'know, covid surge
[15:37:51] <AzumaHazuki> that...does not work in IVs though. There are some things about sterile compounding you cannot teach yourself because there's almost zero margin for error
[15:36:37] <Bytram> curiosity + perseverance
[15:36:17] <systemd> Autodidacticism (also autodidactism) or self-education (also self-learning and self-teaching) is education without the guidance of masters (such as teachers - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:36:17] <Bytram> =w autodidact
[15:36:07] <Bytram> awesome!
[15:35:47] <AzumaHazuki> i'm a ferocious autodidact and am probably the best night rounder they've ever had despite being new, but...yeah. i've got a few pharmacists and high-grade techs on my side doing that
[15:35:21] <Bytram> document it
[15:34:40] <AzumaHazuki> i don't have much choice unfortunately. probation ends mid January and thanks to management fuckups they threw me in night shift without enough training
[15:34:08] <systemd> Pantoprazole, sold under the brand name Protonix among others, is a medication used for the treatment of stomach ulcers, short-term treatment of erosive - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:34:07] <Bytram> =w protonix
[15:34:01] <systemd> https://www.webmd.com - Protonix Oral : Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings ...
[15:34:01] <Bytram> =g protonix
[15:33:55] <FatPhil> don't overwork
[15:33:16] <AzumaHazuki> yeah. that medicine doesn't sound so essential until you start realizing just how many things it treats
[15:31:18] <requerdanos> yikes, if you need it, you need it
[15:30:47] <AzumaHazuki> oh, i got some overtime making syringes of protonix (acid inhibitor) because apparently no one on days could be arsed. and everyone missed their 6 and 8 AM doses because of that ><
[15:24:46] <AzumaHazuki> i do the work of 2 people easily
[15:24:41] <AzumaHazuki> in unit dosing, rounds (deliveries), phones, the tube system, and basically anything not IVs
[15:24:34] <FatPhil> you've found the private ward where republican donors are, and are performing amputations at the neck?
[15:23:52] <FatPhil> this week you've been mostly working in amputations
[15:23:01] <SedBot> <requerdanos> zumi! The IV aspirant.
[15:23:01] <requerdanos> s/mastermind/aspirant/
[15:22:59] <AzumaHazuki> i did get the first dose of corona vaccine today but that's intramuscular rather than intravenous
[15:22:33] <AzumaHazuki> IV training's stalled until at least after new year's actually
[15:22:06] <requerdanos> zumi! The IV mastermind.
[15:21:56] <AzumaHazuki> she's Greek so that's no surprise the politics don't interest her
[15:21:40] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[15:20:04] * Bytram is trying to /invite Aphrodite to #US_Election and having no luck :/
[15:19:31] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: o/
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[15:15:43] <Bytram> .op
[14:10:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5433
[14:10:07] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:37:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dozens Sue Amazon's Ring After Camera Hack Leads to Threats and Racial Slurs - https://sylnt.us - big-brother,-self-inflicted
[12:05:32] <requerdanos> update updated with related stories link.
[12:01:31] <requerdanos> more of an update, I'd say
[12:00:11] <systemd> ^ 03Hidden World of Bacteria and Fungi Discovered on Leonardo Da Vinci's Drawings - SoylentNews
[12:00:09] <FatPhil> dupe? https://soylentnews.org
[11:08:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Leonardo Da Vinci’s Drawings have Unique Microbiomes, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us
[08:26:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Lasting Lessons of John Conway’s Game of Life - https://sylnt.us
[07:45:31] <MrPlow> Raekoja plats, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Possible light rain in the morning and afternoon." 37/30F, Humidity: 87%, Precip: 67%, Wind ~16mph. Thu: "Snow (< 1 in.) in the morning." 35/32F, Humidity: 89%, Precip: 54%, Wind ~6mph. Fri: "Overcast throughout the day." 34/28F, Humidity: 84%, Precip: 30%, Wind ~6mph.
[07:45:30] <FatPhil> #weather
[05:56:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. to Allow Small Drones to Fly Over People and at Night - https://sylnt.us - boosting-background-noise
[05:50:31] <systemd> ^ 03Food Theory: Coffee, Science's MOST IMPORTANT Discovery!
[05:50:29] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[05:29:40] <Runaway1956_> I drove past that house a number of times when I lived in East Meadow.
[05:29:24] <Runaway1956_> We need that woman's address - she may be living in the Amityville Horror house
[05:27:58] <chromas> Prostitution I think
[05:20:31] <Runaway1956_> Psychosis in Amityville? WTF did they expect in Amityville?
[05:20:13] <systemd> ^ 03Small Number of Covid Patients Develop Severe Psychotic Symptoms: SoylentNews Submission
[05:20:10] <Runaway1956_> https://soylentnews.org
[05:13:42] <Runaway1956_> probably screw the pooch pretty thoroughly
[05:13:28] <Runaway1956_> but I did the same thing - clicked "installer" to install packages - wonder what would happen if you go through with the installation
[05:12:35] <Runaway1956_> Reading the "about haiku" pages suggests that they may have taken some pointers from WinNT
[05:08:32] <chromas> ctrl-backspace doesn't work in the edit field. is this windows?
[05:07:33] <chromas> not installer, which just wants to install the whole thing again
[05:07:23] <chromas> ah, haikudepot
[05:05:52] <Runaway1956_> you won't see Firefox or Chrome
[05:05:41] <Runaway1956_> There aren't very many browsers to install either
[05:05:15] <chromas> some of the rounded corners aren't quite right though, so F+
[05:05:05] <chromas> sn loads decently in webpositive
[05:02:48] <Runaway1956_> was pretty deep into shock
[05:02:38] <Runaway1956_> breaking my foot was bad enough, I literally shit my pants when I did it
[05:02:20] <Runaway1956_> You know all the signs and symptoms of shock, I imagine
[05:01:47] <Runaway1956_> LOL
[05:01:41] <chromas> Break her other foot, then at least she'll be even
[05:01:25] <Runaway1956_> I really don't want to go through that again
[05:01:15] <Runaway1956_> Heh - I did almost the same thing she did, years ago
[05:00:53] <chromas> Break your foot to get even
[05:00:45] <Runaway1956_> Won't be very fancy, I probably just use some old 2x2 I have laying around
[05:00:00] <Runaway1956_> That is getting tiresome, lol
[04:59:47] <Runaway1956_> she calls me to be her hand rail
[04:59:38] <Runaway1956_> but she can't walk down the steps
[04:59:26] <Runaway1956_> she has gone back to work, she's getting better
[04:59:14] <Runaway1956_> My wife broke her foot a couple weeks ago
[04:59:03] <Runaway1956_> I gotta build a handrail on the porch
[04:59:02] <chromas> hm I don't remember needing to manually set up partitions before
[04:57:57] <chromas> yeah it took a minute or two
[04:57:02] <Runaway1956_> I don't think it took 20 minutes for me to get the torrent, and I'm on 15 meg connection
[04:56:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5432
[04:56:26] <Runaway1956_> coffee++
[04:56:12] <Runaway1956_> or, do like TMB suggested, just move coffee pot to my desk
[04:55:50] * Runaway1956_ needs electric coffee cup to keep coffee hot when I'm distracted
[04:54:51] <chromas> yeah boiiiiee
[04:54:38] <chromas> here it cums
[04:53:31] <Runaway1956_> including built in search engines
[04:53:27] <chromas> except for the ads
[04:53:07] <Runaway1956_> I use qbittorrent, has all the features of utorrent I think
[04:52:49] <chromas> a bunch of stuff is missing
[04:52:42] <chromas> hm ktorrent seems to be missing the part where I can add trackers
[04:51:33] <Runaway1956_> if that don't work just use aria2 to download it, it's not quite 1 gig
[04:50:37] <Runaway1956_> also add webseed URL http://mirror.rit.edu
[04:49:50] <Runaway1956_> add a tracker udp://9.rarbg.to:2920
[04:49:21] <chromas> 0 (8)
[04:49:17] <chromas> leachers has its own column though
[04:49:02] <Runaway1956_> means no one is seeding, and there are 238 leeches
[04:48:23] <Runaway1956_> I got it pretty quickly because I have a long list of trackers added automatically to every new torrent
[04:48:13] <chromas> Seeders 0 (238)
[04:48:08] <chromas> I never remember how the numbers work
[04:47:40] * Runaway1956_ is seeding but you probably have to wait for seed sharing to get around to me and 20 other seeders
[04:46:48] * chromas waits for activity on the torrent
[04:45:35] <Bender> Added quote 1017
[04:45:35] <Runaway1956_> !grab chromas
[04:45:24] <Runaway1956_> I bet it would fly on some old laptop with limited memory and stuff
[04:44:59] <chromas> Now I'm gonna have to play with it
[04:44:06] <Runaway1956_> I just put it to bed, or I'd look to be sure
[04:43:44] <Runaway1956_> didn't notice any gnome stuff
[04:43:31] <Runaway1956_> Yeah - there are some K libraries and stuff on it
[04:42:57] <chromas> Kinda reminds of of kde 2 with all the gradients and stuff
[04:42:46] <Runaway1956_> jelly
[04:42:33] <Bender> Added quote 1016
[04:42:33] <chromas> !grab Runaway1956_
[04:42:19] <Runaway1956_> just had to play with it for a bit
[04:41:56] <Runaway1956_> I probably won't use it much, rather limited applications
[04:41:34] <Runaway1956_> chromas - haiku installed very quickly, boots very quickly, doesn't use much memory - pretty sweet really
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[04:34:12] <chromas> How's Haiku? Haven't tried it in a year or two
[03:40:15] <HaikuUser> awesome
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[03:27:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Insecure Wheels: Police Turn to Car Data to Destroy Suspects' Alibis - https://sylnt.us
[03:08:44] <systemd> ^ 03US reports its first known case of new UK Covid variant
[03:08:43] <c0lo> c0lorado reports first infection with new strain https://www.theguardian.com
[03:00:14] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Most robots dancing simultaneously - Guinness World Records (03:07; 82,180 views; 👍708 👎45)
[03:00:12] <Bytram> =yt world record robots dancing -ouZb_Yb6HPg
[02:59:06] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Massive robot dance - Guinness World Records (01:46; 1,061,878 views; 👍5,155 👎221)
[02:59:05] <Bytram> =yt world record robots dancing
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[02:05:26] <systemd> ^ 03Rare white kiwi Manukura that inspired book and toys dies
[02:05:24] <Runaway1956_> New Zealand having a day of mourning https://www.bbc.com
[02:01:09] <chromas> longest pee & tea break world record
[02:00:08] <FatPhil> all of the "longest time doing x continually" ones where they're allowed a tea and pee break every 6 hours in particular.
[01:58:54] <FatPhil> 40 years ago, few things excited me more than world records. Nowadays, mere mention of 99% of them nearly triggers me into a rant.
[01:48:54] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Massive robot dance - Guinness World Records (01:46; 1,061,854 views; 👍5,155 👎221)
[01:48:53] <Bytram> =yt https://youtu.be
[01:45:41] <Bytram> TIL
[01:42:28] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Zoidberg - Wikipedia
[01:42:27] <Bytram> =g Zoidberg
[01:39:16] <chromas> Why not Zoidberg?
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[01:31:07] <Bytram> UTC? Why not ring in the new year with some dancing?
[01:30:21] <SedBot> <Bytram> <FatPhil> feel free to use the tin-can-can-can dept!
[01:30:21] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/n c/n-c/
[01:18:09] <FatPhil> feel free to use the tin-can can-can dept!
[01:17:27] <FatPhil> agree - a good one to slot in in the evening - but which time zone to aim for?!?
[01:15:20] <Bytram> Oh? Kewel!
[01:13:57] <requerdanos> looks like it's already in the submissions q
[01:12:22] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Do You Love Me? (02:55; 1,004,939 views; 👍133,516 👎1,193)
[01:12:21] <Bytram> =yt https://youtu.be
[01:12:17] <Bytram> current video:
[01:12:00] <systemd> https://youtube.com - CHARLI Robot Gangnam Style (02:35; 1,573,462 views; 👍6,750 👎455)
[01:11:58] <Bytram> =yt https://youtu.be
[01:11:54] <Bytram> back in 2011:
[01:10:52] <Bytram> somebody want to sub that Boston Dynamics story? Seems apropos for the site and a pleasant-enough way to wrap up 2020.
[01:08:18] <requerdanos> I love watching the magic acts, just making fun of the level of detail the losers get to find out they haven't "fooled em"
[01:07:33] <Bytram> that would be awesome, but I must say I found this incredible, especially compared to what I'd seen before!
[01:06:41] <Bytram> requerdanos: I've seen a couple short bits on YouTube... seemed pretty good!
[01:06:12] <FatPhil> tin cans doing the can-can?
[01:05:48] <systemd> ^ 03Entire Boston Dynamics robot line-up dances in the new year
[01:05:47] <Bytram> https://newatlas.com
[00:55:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Himalayas Act Like an ‘Aerosol Factory’ - https://sylnt.us
[00:51:37] <requerdanos> "I don't want to give too much away, but we think it was the thing you did with the thing before"
[00:45:09] <FatPhil> we just noticed there was a series 7 in summer.
[00:44:35] <FatPhil> anyone a fan of Penn & Teller Fool Us?
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[00:05:12] <FatPhil> I think it was a serious one. The things they thought were the great bits were stuff I hate.