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[00:00:40] <tedious> I can read stuff from Library Genesis and of course there's always good stuff on Wikipedia but It'd be better to start from something more purposeful.
[00:01:43] <AzumaHazuki> iron tests (including transferritin) and a "complete metabolic panel" might be what you want but make sure insurance covers them
[00:01:53] <AzumaHazuki> vitamin D level might be useful too
[00:02:37] <tedious> Yeah I think we all need to get away from computers and spend more time in the sunshine. :)
[00:03:02] * AzumaHazuki takes 2000IU daily along with magnesium and C and B complex
[00:03:03] <tedious> But insurance is a bit of a.....problem.
[00:03:14] <AzumaHazuki> yes. the US healthcare system is hideous
[00:03:28] <tedious> Deductables are ridiculous.
[00:06:17] <AzumaHazuki> i am going to try to get to canada in a year assuming the border is open, partly because of this
[00:08:25] <Bytram_dewey> =g fsck ntfs
[00:08:25] <systemd> https://superuser.com - fsck an ntfs drive in Linux - Super User
[00:08:40] <AzumaHazuki> you know, i suspect i may have iron-deficiency anaemia myself. i don't exactly have heavy periods but my intake is probably low
[00:08:56] <AzumaHazuki> when benefits kick in in mid-December i'll get tested
[00:12:57] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: What do you think about just eating lots of foods rich in different vitamins and minerals?
[00:13:09] <tedious> Could that be safer than taking supplements?
[00:13:18] <AzumaHazuki> too expensive for me, but it's the preferred option if you can afford it
[00:13:20] <tedious> I know some people give supplements a bad rap.
[00:14:10] <AzumaHazuki> potassium is impossible to get enough of by diet, IMO. bananas, potatoes, and coconut water are the three best sources and only potatoes are cheap
[00:14:26] <AzumaHazuki> magnesium is also impossible to get enough of from food, full freaking stop
[00:14:36] <tedious> Oh.
[00:14:38] <tedious> LOL!
[00:14:51] <tedious> I was about to say: Wouldn't eating a lot of bananas give you too much potassium just like taking supplements?
[00:15:21] <AzumaHazuki> supplements are limited to 3% of the RDA each. you can down an entire bottle and get the daily value
[00:15:32] <AzumaHazuki> i don't recommend it though because that much at once is dangerous
[00:15:37] <tedious> Oh wow.
[00:15:59] <tedious> So I guess OD'ing on potassium supplement pills isn't going to happen.
[00:16:05] <AzumaHazuki> salt substitute is the best way to get it but be super, super careful about using it. you can kill yourself theoretically
[00:16:28] <tedious> Shoot this sounds like a real mess.
[00:16:53] <AzumaHazuki> and death by hyperkalaemia is HORRIBLE. there is a reason KCl IV is the actual killing drug in the death penalty
[00:17:09] <tedious> Eep!
[00:17:15] <AzumaHazuki> there's a sedative, a muscle relaxant (bromide salt of pancuronium), and KCl
[00:18:00] <AzumaHazuki> fun fact: if the sedative fails, you get to experience being chemically paralyzed AND your heart failing to beat, not to mention other somatic effects. it's like burning alive and suffocating from within
[00:18:40] <AzumaHazuki> ...and of course, since you ARE paralyzed, there's no way to show people the sedative failed!
[00:18:41] <tedious> Now I'm terrified of bananas!
[00:18:57] <AzumaHazuki> oh, you'd have to eat a ridiculous amount to put yourself into hyperkalaemia
[00:21:58] <AzumaHazuki> i think there's about 400mg in a banana? so you'd need a dozen to hit the RDA. even i wouldn't eat a dozen bananas and i love them
[00:24:44] <AzumaHazuki> what's scary is how expensive food is. thankfully some cheap things (beans, oatmeal, cabbage) are also super good for you. but it's getting to the point i don't buy any meat that isn't massively marked down and even that's expensive for me
[00:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inside the Fall of the CDC - https://sylnt.us - conflict-of-interest
[00:27:03] <AzumaHazuki> the cdc didn't fall, it was fucking pushed
[00:30:14] <requerdanos> I am reading the propublica piece now. Interesting, like watching an industrial accident
[00:31:24] <AzumaHazuki> this is not an accident. this was deliberate
[00:32:37] <carny> the cdc has been corrupt since it was formed
[00:33:05] <requerdanos> [citation needed]
[00:33:20] <carny> ever wonder why the campus was built on private property in atlanta instead of government land in washington dc?
[00:33:59] <carny> or how the cdc can be a government agency but own patents on the work it produces?
[00:34:43] <carny> and individuals can be named on those patents and get very rich instead of that money going back to the people?
[00:35:47] <carny> there are skeletons buried at clifton that have nothing to do with dead lab animals
[00:36:11] <AzumaHazuki> https://i.pinimg.com MFRN
[00:38:07] <carny> remember those cdc testing kits that were found to be contaminated with sars-ncov-2 even though the kits were made in a different building from the live virus testing?
[00:38:58] <carny> if there was a massive breach of containment how is it that the rest of the campus didn't get sick?
[00:39:11] <requerdanos> You might read TFA and find out
[00:39:12] <AzumaHazuki> yes, i do. the answer is to properly fund and fix the agency (which includes getting all this privatized bullshit out of it, we agree there)
[00:39:48] <AzumaHazuki> the GOP and people like you, carny, are a bunch of disingenuous little shits. "Government doesn't work! Elect us so we can fuck it up and prove ourselves right!"
[00:39:57] <carny> i guess the offices and all the other lab buildings were socially distancing ;]
[00:40:54] <AzumaHazuki> Grover Norquist is going to writhe in Hellfire for what he's done to this country, and by the time he gets out, there may not be a human race for him to reincarnate back into
[00:41:39] <requerdanos> Today I met a local man who told me that Trump is getting to the bottom of pedophilia and if we give him four more years he will get to the bottom of everything else too. He was serious, not ironic as far as I could tell.
[00:42:55] <carny> requerdanos: there are a huge number if distraction and disinfo ops going on in the usa and some of them overlap and reinforce and/or interfere
[00:44:15] <requerdanos> So "Trump is getting to the bottom of" these operations, or these operations have as a focus, saying that "Trump is getting to the bottom" of something besides a twitter post?
[00:44:42] <AzumaHazuki> his supporters are lost causes. let them gibber and howl and shriek into the empty abyss
[00:45:02] <requerdanos> Yeah I just invited him to have a nice day and told him it was nice talking with him.
[00:45:06] <carny> i would say that trump can get to the bottom of whatever he wants for public relations purposes
[00:45:21] <carny> he's not actually doing anything about anything so they don't matter either way
[00:45:38] <carny> that sounds like 'q' agitprop
[00:46:02] <AzumaHazuki> it is Q agitprop
[00:46:03] <requerdanos> I guess I just don't really understand why a random North Carolina man would think Trump is curing world pedophilia.
[00:46:19] <AzumaHazuki> be glad you don't understand that kind of thinking
[00:46:24] <carny> requerdanos: i can't claim to be an expert on the whole 'q' thing because it smelled so much like an op that i started consciously avoiding it about the minute i first became aware of it
[00:46:47] <carny> but a surprising number of people are getting on board
[00:46:58] <AzumaHazuki> the base of it is, these people are "authoritarian followers," and once a strongman figure hooks them, said figure can do no wrong and is the source of all good. and if this sounds to you like funamentalist Christianity, well...
[00:47:08] <requerdanos> one person legit onboard with that surprised me, no kidding there
[00:47:56] <carny> well maybe you can spend a few minutes reading old news reports on various politician pedophiles who have been disgraced and in some cases arrested
[00:48:27] <carny> dennis hastert is a good place to start
[00:48:52] <carny> it's just one form of corruption that our government is full of
[00:49:03] <requerdanos> and this will explain the President-Trump-is-fixing-it angle for me?
[00:49:26] <AzumaHazuki> yes. it really is that simple
[00:49:32] <carny> no it will give you an understanding of how big the problem is
[00:49:55] <carny> which is required to understand why some people are so desperate to have it fixed
[00:50:12] <requerdanos> I am not sure how understanding that a large problem is large is going to help explain Trump's involvement, or the involvement of random Trump-Thumpers.
[00:50:19] <carny> that's a prime requirement for hegelian dialectic
[00:50:47] <carny> you're presuming that the President-Trump-is-fixing-it angle is real
[00:50:55] <carny> it's an op
[00:51:40] <AzumaHazuki> the people at the top know that
[00:51:49] <requerdanos> I make no such presumption. I do not believe that the president has any involvement in curing world pedophilia. I am just curious why a random one of my neighbors might believe it as an article of faith.
[00:51:49] <carny> but understanding the nature of the op and how it works requires understanding the source of the problem to be 'solved' and the methods promised
[00:52:01] <carny> i told you
[00:52:04] <AzumaHazuki> the entire point is it's a hook, a basilisk if you will, that nips in through the victim's eyeballs and flays their brain
[00:52:14] <carny> the 'q' thing has become a global phenomenon
[00:52:18] <AzumaHazuki> it turns off higher critical thought process
[00:52:33] <requerdanos> Uh, I was still thinking rationally and critically.
[00:52:51] <requerdanos> though to be fair, he couldn't possibly have been, could he.
[00:53:06] <AzumaHazuki> by definition no
[00:53:07] <carny> he might have been
[00:53:27] <carny> it's hard to be sure if you're dealing with someone who is smart enough to know how to play along
[00:53:39] <AzumaHazuki> i know you don't want to think of other people like this, but please, understand that many people have willfully tossed their humanity in the incinerator. these are skin thieves now.
[00:54:03] <AzumaHazuki> they wear human meat-suits but the thing propelling said meatbag around is no longer human
[00:54:03] <carny> ops like that always have insiders guiding them as well as people who recognize the op and go along for their own reasons
[00:54:08] <requerdanos> This was in relation to another of our neighbors being arrested last week. His explanation for the arrest, carried out by local authorities, was supertrump to the rescue.
[00:54:59] <requerdanos> admittedly, I have no way to know for sure whether he genuinely believes the supertrump theory, or is merely agitating on its behalf.
[00:55:07] <carny> was your other neighbor involved in human trafficking or some related crime?
[00:56:00] <carny> there are a number of factions that are very active in the usa right now and some of them are dropping evidence on their competitors to take them off the chess board by legal means
[00:56:06] <requerdanos> The only information I have on that came from today's conversation, wherein the neighbor I mention said "I read the charges, and I'm glad he got arrested" followed by the trump theory
[00:56:55] * AzumaHazuki is sick of this entire thing, just wants to go to Halifax and work in a hospital for the rest of her working life and then retire there
[00:57:17] <requerdanos> I don't think Nova Scotia has an NHL team.
[00:57:18] <halibut> A few days ago, FatPhil posted this link: https://youarenotsosmart.com I listened to part of it. It appears to go into the theory of tribalism, in particular how it relates to refusing to wear masks, but I suspect it applies a little to QAnon as well.
[00:58:15] <carny> this other neighbor may have been involved with something illegal like child sex trafficking and a competing trafficker wanted him out of the way
[00:58:57] <requerdanos> speaking of anti-maskers, early voting started in my state this past thursday. Every time I have driven by a polling place, there has been a long line of unmasked people close enough together to hug and kiss, such that I have thus far been disenfranchised.
[00:59:00] <halibut> requerdanos: I repost that link as a possible answer to your query about how somebody could believe something so fanatically.
[00:59:14] <requerdanos> I appreciate it.
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[01:18:48] <Bytram_dewey> -g "The Chaos"
[01:18:51] <Bytram_dewey> =g "The Chaos"
[01:18:52] <systemd> http://ncf.idallen.com - The Chaos - Gerard Nolst Trenité
[01:23:41] <Bytram_dewey> =g "ladle rat rotten hut"
[01:23:42] <systemd> https://annex.exploratorium.edu - Ladle Rat Rotten Hut: Exploratorium Exhibit.
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[02:14:29] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.cbsnews.com from the do-you-want-Godzilla?-because-this-is-how-you-get-Godzilla-dept.
[02:14:31] <systemd> Submitting "Japan reportedly decides to release treated Fukushima water into the sea"...
[02:14:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Japan Reportedly Decides to Release Treated Fukushima Water Into the Sea" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:14:57] <AzumaHazuki> good old fuck-you-shima-and-die-itchy (but not tasty)
[02:28:31] <AzumaHazuki> ...huhhh...qterminal does its own splitting. no need for tmux. i like this
[02:36:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Simple Etching on Solar Panels Boosts Light Absorption - https://sylnt.us - Scratch-and-DC
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[03:19:19] * nutherguy mails a small box of disenfranchisement to requerdanos
[03:20:20] <nutherguy> Nova Scotia has the Blue Nose and the Citadel - it has no need of sissy NHL teams
[04:58:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA’s Next Moonsuit is Going to be Damned Impressive - https://sylnt.us - have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-back-on-again
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[06:52:58] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[06:53:00] <systemd> Submitting ""We Are NOT Ahead by Double-Digits" - Biden Campaign Manager Drops a Bomb on Supporters During Friday Call"...
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[06:55:47] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.wsj.com
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[07:16:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Good and Not So Good of the IoT Cybersecurity Improvement Act of 2020 - https://sylnt.us - anything-would-be-an-improvement
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[08:15:25] <systemd> Submitting "In this Pennsylvania town, racism 'was quiet.' Then Trump stoked fears of violence"...
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[09:38:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Shows Off $5,000 Eye-Tracking 3D Display - https://sylnt.us - eye-see-you
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[12:08:28] <Bytram_dewey> coffee++
[12:08:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5374
[12:22:59] <c0lo> hey, no http 500 or anything going down yet? What a bore.
[12:23:53] <Bytram_dewey> Shhhh! It's listening and waiting for a more fruuitful opportunity!
[12:29:57] <janrinok> Bytram_dewey, I'm over on qa
[12:34:08] <c0lo> then...
[12:34:52] <c0lo> coffee-- I'm gone to sleep
[12:34:52] <Bender> karma - tea: 630
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[13:25:42] <FatPhil> Odd question - has anyone had any experience with skunks? As victims, that is?
[13:26:21] <FatPhil> i keep writing "skunky" in my beer reviews of crappy lightstruct lagers, but I've never encountered a real skunk.
[13:26:28] <AzumaHazuki> not directly, but back in madison someone ran over one in the complex parking lot...
[13:26:41] <AzumaHazuki> it is the pure, platonic essence of burning rubber, with a little septic tank thrown in
[13:27:24] <FatPhil> I'm wondering whether I should persuade the g/f's parents to assault some of their local pests with a clean piece of cloth, and then zip-lock it up, and send it over to me so I can know what the hell it is I'm referring to! :/
[13:27:54] <FatPhil> Some people think I'm taking my beer tasting hobby too far, I can't understand why!
[13:31:36] <FatPhil> Damn, this Carsberg Alcohol Free Organic Pilsner may stink, but it's delicious! Skol!
[14:02:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, yeah, i've had several dogs get skunked and smelling a squooshed one on the road isn't uncommon.
[14:03:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> smell's moderately repulsive but extremely strong
[14:07:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The USDA Should Let People Plant Blight-Resistant American Chestnut Trees - https://sylnt.us - Let-my-chestnuts-grow!
[14:09:33] <lld> but will those trees be ISO9000 standards compliant?
[14:10:02] <AzumaHazuki> and if you plant them in NorCal, will they be chestnuts roasting on an open fire?
[14:10:47] <lld> trees are known to cause fires in the state of california
[14:12:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> american chestnut trees used to be more common than oak in the US. they're all but entirely gone nowadays cause of that blight though.
[14:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should get a sack full of their seeds and go around planting them and giving them away. like johnny appleseed. i could call myself buzzy nut sack.
[14:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> welp, time to pack up for the river again. didn't catch all the fish yesterday but today's another day.
[14:18:46] <lld> TheMightyBuzzard: what is your position on diesel boat bomb fishing?
[14:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prefer stuffing a bunch of primer cord in a mason jar if you just want to fish via explosives.
[14:20:13] <lld> no TNT fishing? :)
[14:20:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's fun once or twice in a lifetime but it's cheating and takes the fun out beyond that.
[14:20:41] <lld> well, those bombers are illegal commercial fishermen
[14:20:47] <lld> they aren't doing it for fun
[14:20:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, shoot em
[14:21:02] <lld> the borders are too porous at sea
[14:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> bounties for their heads. unaltered video evidence sufficient.
[14:22:10] <lld> dead tourists are more than enough proof :)
[14:22:27] <lld> note: do not be diving when fishermen are bombing the waters
[14:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if you see em doing it, just record it and shoot them. a lot.
[14:23:31] <lld> yea, I wish the coastguard had the balls to do it
[14:24:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, nah, death is too good for people who fuck up the fishing for others. public, very slow, flaying. then add salt.
[14:25:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> should prolly put recordings of it up on youtube too, just so word spreads.
[14:26:45] <lld> get China involved, since they were chinese tourists
[14:26:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, if it's your own pond that you paid to have stocked, fuck it up all you like. if it's a communal resource, don't fuck it up for others.
[14:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's pretty much the answer you'll get from anyone who fishes because they love fishing rather than for cash. we're about the strongest defenders of that particular bit of the environment there are.
[14:30:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto hunters for their bits of nature.
[14:30:42] <lld> yeah, lots of pirates and illegal fieshermen at sea
[14:30:46] <lld> all criminals
[14:31:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd be fun to get a heavily armed, fast ship and go a'viking on them
[14:32:59] <lld> gotta cross the borders to do that, they're from another country
[14:33:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should petition congress for a letter of marque
[14:33:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're still allowed to issue em
[14:34:17] <lld> with how lawless the world is, letters of marques needs to be back
[14:37:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall'd prolly have to find a new codemonkey/admin if i actually got one though. computers are nice but you just can't beat privateer for awesome.
[14:37:40] <lld> are you going to own a private submarine?
[14:39:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, i can deal with boat/ship stuff but i ain't a bubble head.
[14:39:39] <lld> getting your hands on RTG batteries from an electric submarine would be fun, sure its easily detected with the heat, but should be good enough against other pirates :)
[14:39:54] <lld> s/from/for/
[14:39:54] <SedBot> <lld> getting your hands on RTG batteries for an electric submarine would be fun, sure its easily detected with the heat, but should be good enough against other pirates :)
[14:41:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd prolly go with good old fashioned, small caliber machine guns. more to loot if you don't sink the ship with a torpedo.
[14:42:02] <lld> they'd need to puncture the hull to get at the people hiding behind the hull
[14:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> just one loaded with armor piercing rounds would do.
[14:42:42] <lld> Russian 14.7mm KPVs should be good
[14:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw. i'm already intimately familiar with the m60 and it'd do the job just fine with standard 7.62mm nato rounds.
[14:45:05] <lld> those are anti-personnel full sized rifle rounds, they aren't meant to go through steel bulkheads
[14:45:20] <lld> needs more anti-materiel oomph :)
[14:45:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> they will if you get the armor piercing variety.
[14:46:02] <lld> not really, they don't have the mass to penetrate bulkheads
[14:46:15] <lld> unless you're fighting wooden boats
[14:47:00] <guy_> lld - ship's bulkheads are probably a lot less substantial than you believe
[14:47:40] <guy_> What do you think it takes to penetrate 1/4" aluminum bulkheads?
[14:47:58] <lld> are ship hulls that thin?
[14:48:04] <guy_> many standard high powered hunting rounds will do it
[14:48:11] <guy_> indeed
[14:48:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, the straight up lead ones will turn a humvee with standard armor into swiss cheese in a big hurry. armor piercing rounds will do plenty well.
[14:48:42] <guy_> They haven't built "armored" ships since world war two
[14:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept naval ones
[14:49:19] <lld> I don't think a humvee has the same steel hulls as fishing boats :)
[14:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it has thicker armor
[14:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> fishing boats have aluminum or fiberglass
[14:49:48] <guy_> I'm talking about Navy ships
[14:49:55] <guy_> lived aboard them for five years
[14:50:00] <lld> I guess that'll be expected of pirates
[14:50:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> guy_, squid or jarhead?
[14:50:21] <guy_> Destroyers, so squid
[14:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt in the navy
[14:50:33] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- In The Navy
[14:50:41] <lld> guy_: have you met the frogmen?
[14:50:59] <guy_> There are no frogmen left in the Navy, but yes, I have
[14:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> couldn't help it. had to be done.
[14:51:18] <guy_> All frogmen are older than I am
[14:51:27] <guy_> by at least 5 years
[14:52:07] * TheMightyBuzzard enlisted with absolute perfect timing for maximum don't-ask-don't-tell shit taking
[14:52:08] <guy_> When the Seals were created, UDT/Frogmen were phased out
[14:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i got a car to pack.
[14:53:05] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off
[14:53:12] <lld> do seals do all the things frogmen do and more?
[14:53:15] <guy_> Is there room in your suitcase for a car?
[14:53:53] <guy_> Yes, seals do all that frogmen did, and more - they've been reorganized more along Marine lines
[14:54:17] <lld> they were previously army?
[14:54:24] <guy_> Before the Seals, frogmen were more uhhhhh - individualists
[14:54:38] <lld> ah adventurers
[14:54:40] <guy_> and no, Army has nothing to do with any Navy units
[15:13:53] <Bytram_dewey> FatPhil: Long ago, but I have personally experienced being sprayed by a skunk. The scent is... *intense*. Even a couple *months* later, if I worked up a good sweat, it would come out of my pores! Every tomato-containing preparation we had in the house was attempted. So were multiple showers. I've since learned that Dawn Dishwashing Detergent (for handwashing dishes) is prolly your best bet -- cuts the oil that contains the scent.
[15:13:53] <Bytram_dewey> It's what they use to help clean gunk off critters after an oil spill (think Exxon Valdez)
[15:14:35] <AzumaHazuki> skunk spray has a lot of short-ish-chain thiols in it--like alcohols but with -SH rather than -OH on it
[15:15:07] <AzumaHazuki> mostly the butyl (4-carbon) chain. for some reason, butyl compounds are just an awful match for human smell enjoyment
[15:15:12] <Bytram_dewey> sulfur? that explains a lot!
[15:15:44] <AzumaHazuki> eeee-yup. i hear "mercaptan" and i go "not in my fucking lab you're not"
[15:16:11] <Bytram_dewey> I count it to my good fortune that it happened during the summer, so most of it was gone by the time I got back to school in the fall!
[15:16:29] <AzumaHazuki> pretty much everything in the "oxygen group" of the periodic table but oxygen smells awful when connected to hydrocarbon chains, and i suspect that's only because we breathe oxygen
[15:16:46] <Bytram_dewey> AzumaHazuki: Lol! Ever read "Ignition!" ??
[15:16:53] <AzumaHazuki> yes, one of my favorites
[15:17:08] <Bytram_dewey> How'd I guess? :D
[15:17:28] <Bytram_dewey> =g things I won't work with derek
[15:17:29] <systemd> https://blogs.sciencemag.org - Search for "things I won't work with" | In the Pipeline
[15:17:32] <AzumaHazuki> Derek Lowe has an article on selenophenol
[15:17:47] <Bytram_dewey> So, you are familiar with this writings, too?
[15:17:49] <Bytram_dewey> FOOF!
[15:17:51] <AzumaHazuki> yes :)
[15:18:07] <Bytram_dewey> =g salan's kimchee
[15:18:08] <AzumaHazuki> some of the compounds he mentions look like his cat sat on the N key.
[15:18:08] <systemd> https://www.mapquest.com - Kimchi Chic Beauty LLC 2250 S Tubeway Ave Commerce, CA Hair ...
[15:18:12] <Bytram_dewey> =g satan's kimchee
[15:18:13] <systemd> https://blogs.sciencemag.org - Things I Won't Work With: Dioxygen Difluoride | In the Pipeline
[15:18:36] <AzumaHazuki> iirc some commenter said "your program is going to crash because it'll run out of Ns to display"
[15:18:59] <Bytram_dewey> possibly one of the most evocative expressions I have ever encountered in serious writing!
[15:19:17] * AzumaHazuki wonders if anyone's ever made tellurophenol
[15:20:05] <Bytram_dewey> the chemical with a bunch of Ns, and why not add a few more? some kink of -adize IIRC
[15:20:36] <AzumaHazuki> yeah the other one i run away from is "azide," especially when preceded by the name of a metal
[15:21:16] <Bytram_dewey> Hexawurt something azide
[15:21:32] <AzumaHazuki> hexanitroazoisowurtzitane
[15:21:47] <AzumaHazuki> that word is amazing. it gets more and more "nope" as you read it
[15:21:53] <Bytram_dewey> bingo!
[15:22:42] <Bytram_dewey> =g Derek Lowe hexanitroazoisowurtzitane
[15:22:43] <systemd> https://blogs.sciencemag.org - About Derek Lowe | In the Pipeline
[15:22:45] <AzumaHazuki> "so, six of something, okay...six nitro groups, whoo boy. ...did...did he bond ALL SIX OF THOSE TO OTHER NITROGENS?! Jesus! And what the hell is "wurtz?" I know this means some kind of carbon backbone in theory but..."
[15:23:16] <Bytram_dewey> =g Derek Lowe hexanitro
[15:23:17] <systemd> https://blogs.sciencemag.org - Things I Won't Work With: Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane | In the ...
[15:23:21] <AzumaHazuki> "Okay, this thing has got to be either a short-lived synthesis intermediate or some kind of explosive"
[15:29:05] <Bytram_dewey> https://blogs.sciencemag.org
[15:29:12] <Bytram_dewey> hmmm
[15:29:27] <Bytram_dewey> =w Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane
[15:29:28] <systemd> Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane, also called HNIW and CL-20, is a nitroamine explosive with the formula C6H6N12O12. The structure of CL-20 was first proposed - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:30:21] <AzumaHazuki> that chemical formula looks like a typo, it really does
[15:31:30] <Bytram_dewey> Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane, also called HNIW and CL-20, is a nitroamine explosive with the formula C6H6N12O12.
[15:31:50] <Bytram_dewey> yep, subscripts got dropped
[15:32:16] <Bytram_dewey> C6H6N12O12
[15:32:46] <AzumaHazuki> no, i mean the numbers themselves. my first thought looking at it is "and where do you propose to put all those Ns and Os?"
[15:33:15] <AzumaHazuki> followed by dawn breaking over marblehead with "...nitro groups. you're talking about nitro groups. oh fuck me."
[15:33:19] <Bytram_dewey> Wooo! Looky here: https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:33:20] <systemd> ^ 03Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[15:39:04] <Bytram_dewey> If I am reading that correctly: C 6 (black) H 6 (white) N 12 (blue) O 12 (red)
[15:57:10] <FatPhil> spicy stuff
[16:37:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This is What “War in Space” Probably Would Look Like in the Near Future - https://sylnt.us - pew-pew
[16:46:27] <Bytram_dewey> =w The Orionid meteor shower
[16:46:28] <systemd> The Orionids meteor shower, often shortened to the Orionids, is the most prolific meteor shower associated with Halley's Comet. The Orionids are so-called - https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:00:34] <Bytram_dewey> =g anniversary gift 25 years
[17:00:34] <systemd> https://www.theknot.com - 25th Anniversary Gifts for Her, Him or Them
[18:28:09] <guy_> =submit https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[18:28:10] <systemd> Submitting "Judge allows 21 businesses to sue Democrat-run Seattle over devastation caused by 'autonomous zone'"...
[18:28:33] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Judge Allows 21 Businesses to Sue Democrat-run Seattle Over Devastation Caused by 'Autonomous Zone'" (138 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:28:35] <guy_> hey all
[18:29:49] <guy_> =g anniversary gift 35 years
[18:29:50] <systemd> https://trulyexperiences.com - 35th Wedding Anniversary - Special Gift Ideas for Your 35 Year ...
[18:30:35] <guy_> huh - coral, jade, or emerald
[18:31:01] <guy_> paper anniversary was best - cheap cheap cheap
[18:31:37] * guy_ plans a trip to pillage a coral reef somewhere
[18:37:41] <RandomFactor> Depends on the denomination.
[18:56:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SystemRescueCd Changes Its Name to SystemRescue after More than 16 Years - https://sylnt.us - getting-away-from-the-cd-part-of-town?
[19:25:39] <FatPhil> https://www.newyorker.com\
[19:25:40] <systemd> ^ 03Page Not Found ( https://www.newyorker.com )
[19:25:42] <FatPhil> ster-of-competently-handling-the-coronavirus-to-get-reelected
[19:25:57] <FatPhil> https://www.newyorker.com
[19:25:58] <systemd> ^ 03Trump Accuses New Zealand’s Prime Minister of Competently Handling the Coronavirus to Get Reëlected
[19:32:50] <halibut> Once again, it took me too long to realize that is a comedic piece, not a true news story.
[19:33:16] <halibut> Perhaps the umlaut in ``Reëlected'' should have tipped me off.
[19:44:34] <FatPhil> That's New Yorker house style. They revel in such things.
[19:45:09] <FatPhil> The "satire" above that should have been the real clue
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[21:16:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Eel Effects: Fears after Release of Exotic Species into New York City Lake - https://sylnt.us - invasive-species
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[22:06:21] <halibut> ... or perhaps the URL itself: https://www.newyorker.comhumor/borowitz-report/trump-accuses-new-zealands-prime-minister-of-competently-handling-the-coronavirus-to-get-reelected
[23:09:47] <nutherguy> Florida man may be frostproof, but not bulletproof
[23:09:52] <nutherguy> https://primepatriot.com
[23:10:09] <systemd> ^ 03Machete-wielding Florida man dies in officer-involved shooting
[23:36:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Engineer Creates Real-Life 'Star Wars' Lightsaber that Can Slice Through Metal - https://sylnt.us - Making-science-fiction-into-science-fact
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