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[23:57:17] <RandomFactor> "Wax is a terrible adhesive" - Icarus
[23:39:05] <RandomFactor> If you ever read the WhatIf strip by Randall Munroe, he uses this type of order-of-magnitude approximation routinely
[23:38:26] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Speed of light - Wikipedia
[23:38:25] <Bytram> =g wikipedia speed of light
[23:38:15] <Bytram> Especially wrt calculating the orbits of Jupiter's moons.
[23:37:47] <Bytram> For a fascinating perspective on this, read up on the attempts to determine if light was instantaneous or had a fixed speed.
[23:36:33] <RandomFactor> yep
[23:36:01] <Bytram> IOW, space is so HUGE that one can do calculations based on orders of magnitude (forget the stuff after the decimal point) and that is actually a useful and practical way to take look at things in space!
[23:34:06] <Bytram> that's a big part of "Astronomical Accuracy" -- as a professor once explained in one of my astronomy courses, if your calculations come to within an order of magnitude, then it's worth looking at closer.
[23:31:59] <RandomFactor> I usually expect to intuit low when dealing with space
[23:31:42] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Around the World in Eighty Days - Wikipedia
[23:31:41] <Bytram> =g around the world in 80 days
[23:31:31] <Bytram> 80+ days round trip.
[23:31:13] <Bytram> Each way.
[23:31:12] <RandomFactor> so not way low.
[23:30:45] <Bytram> that works out to ~1,000 hours flight at near Mach 1 speeds. 1,000 / 24 ==> ~41 days.
[23:28:59] <Bytram> btw, in very round, approximate numbers, it's about ~250,000 miles from Earth to the Moon. (It varies quite a bit)
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[23:27:28] <Bytram> the Lagrange points might tend to accumulate "space junk", but it's still almost entirely empty. It's only in comparison to the vast emptiness of space that we can assert there is something there, but it is still mostly vacant compared to things here on Earth.
[23:24:58] <Bytram> exactly
[23:24:46] <RandomFactor> At least months I would think without doing any math, but i'm probably way low
[23:24:41] * Bytram tries to visualize people being spread out... like some kind of jelly.
[23:24:11] <RandomFactor> it took 3 days on a rocket which leaves a jet in the dust
[23:23:34] <Bytram> RandomFactor: Simple math exercise... What's the fastest you've every driven a car? 120 mph? Pretty fast, right? How about riding in a commercial jet. Round numbers, that's about 650 MPH. Let's make it easy, call it 1,000 MPH. At that speed, how long would it take to go from the Earth to the Moon?
[23:22:17] <RandomFactor> each
[23:22:02] <RandomFactor> If you took everyone on earth and spread them evenly around the solar system they would have more space to themselves than the entire earth-moon system
[23:20:41] <systemd> https://www.goodreads.com - Quote by Douglas Adams: “Space is big. You just won't believe how ...
[23:20:40] <Bytram> =g HHGTTG Space is big
[23:20:28] <Bytram> HHGTTG: Space is big...
[23:20:03] <exec> <RandomFactor> seems like a good place to get randomly smacked and jostled
[23:20:01] <RandomFactor> s/jossled/jostled/
[23:19:08] <RandomFactor> seems like a good place to get randomly smacked and jossled
[23:18:29] <RandomFactor> but more seriously - wouldn't the L2 have a bunch of junk (relatively speaking) in it anyway?
[23:17:25] <RandomFactor> Maybe they started shooting at it years ago
[23:16:56] <Bytram> IIRC Webb is not going to asteroids, but to one of the Lagrange points.
[23:16:18] <RandomFactor> Aliens on asteroids with a slingshot taking escape velocity shots at it?
[23:15:37] <Bytram> As for the Webb telescope, we can already get blurry images from earth. Why spend $10B to "Do it in space"?
[23:15:29] <RandomFactor> it was really surprising how good they were looking at the lens and much better than I would have guessed
[23:15:01] <RandomFactor> I saw shots from one that was thoroughly trashed. They weren't crisp, but they were still viable.
[23:14:01] <Bytram> Scratch the lens? Yes, it is not at the focal point, so it would slightly blur the image. Cracked/broken lens. Depends on the extent of the damage, but expect far from clear results.
[23:11:47] <RandomFactor> You know if scratch and even break the lens on a camera it still is likely to take fairly passable pictures. Have to wonder how much losing just one would actually do.
[23:10:41] <Bytram> RandomFactor: How much for breaking ALL the mirrors? Part of the exorbitant cost is getting all of them to fit in the rocket's shroud and later expand on deployment.
[23:09:57] <systemd> ^ 03Let's Dismantle the Solar System!
[23:09:55] <RandomFactor> https://www.youtube.com
[23:09:00] <Bytram> nutherguy: "Do try walking under an Ariane 5 during liftoff" -- Consider yourself reminded. ;)
[23:08:16] <RandomFactor> Well, breaking a James Webb mirror is $10B bad luck
[23:06:42] <nutherguy> Remind me to try that one day, to prove your superstitions wrong
[23:05:46] <RandomFactor> Bad luck to walk under an Arianne 5 during liftoff
[23:05:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Who’s Behind Wednesday’s Epic Twitter Hack?" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:05:23] <exec> └─ 13Who’s Behind Wednesday’s Epic Twitter Hack? — Krebs on Security
[23:05:22] <systemd> Submitting "Who’s Behind Wednesday’s Epic Twitter Hack?"...
[23:05:21] <Bytram> =asub https://krebsonsecurity.com
[23:05:19] <nutherguy> That's some kind of play on words - the dominant species on earth is omniverous
[23:04:58] <nutherguy> ommmminously?
[23:04:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA Ominously Chooses Halloween 2021 to Launch Long-Delayed Space Telescope" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:04:02] <systemd> Submitting "NASA Ominously Chooses Halloween 2021 to Launch Long-Delayed Space Telescope"...
[23:04:01] <exec> └─ 13NASA Targets October 2021 for James Webb Space Telescope Launch
[23:04:00] <RandomFactor> =submit trick or telescope https://gizmodo.com
[22:57:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Twitter Says Hack of Key Staff Led to Celebrity, Politician, Biz Account Hijack Mega-spree" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:57:47] <nutherguy> love me some looney tunes
[22:57:36] <exec> └─ 13Twitter says hack of key staff led to celebrity, politician, biz account hijack mega-spree • The Register
[22:57:36] <systemd> Submitting "Twitter says hack of key staff led to celebrity, politician, biz account hijack mega-spree"...
[22:57:34] <RandomFactor> =submit the weakest link https://www.theregister.com
[22:52:25] <Bytram> I figured there just *had* to be a Bugs Bunny cartoon with that title.
[22:51:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Looney Tunes - “Hare Trigger” (1945) Opening Title & Closing (03:01; 27,567 views; 👍110 👎4)
[22:51:22] <Bytram> =yt hare trigger
[22:51:08] <Bytram> hare trigger?
[22:46:37] <nutherguy> I haz talent for triggering people!!
[22:46:28] <nutherguy> "We always have a place for talented people,"
[22:26:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Methane Emissions Soar to Record High - https://sylnt.us - oh-fart!
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[22:25:33] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
[22:22:44] <RandomFactor> Yeah, that's going to be a cesspool of an entry
[22:21:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03VPN Firm That Claims Zero Logs Policy Leaks 20 Million User Logs" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:21:02] <driveby> lol
[22:20:40] <exec> └─ 13VPN firm that claims zero logs policy leaks 20 million user logs
[22:20:40] <systemd> Submitting "VPN firm that claims zero logs policy leaks 20 million user logs"...
[22:20:38] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.hackread.com
[22:20:32] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Left/Right, what do you *really* think of the other side?
[22:20:29] <AzumaHazuki> ...jesus fuck. He actually said this https://soylentnews.org
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[22:19:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Vantablack? Meh. Meet the Ultra-Black Vantafish" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:18:44] <systemd> Submitting "Vantablack? Meh. Meet the Ultra-Black Vantafish"...
[22:18:43] <exec> └─ 13Vantablack? Meh. Meet the Ultra-Black Vantafish | WIRED
[22:18:41] <RandomFactor> =submit too shy shy https://www.wired.com
[22:12:06] <chromas> The resulting rainbow will outweigh the environmental impact
[22:11:19] <RandomFactor> I'm guessing after Red then Orange... Yellow is next?
[22:10:51] <RandomFactor> "This came not even a month after melting permafrost caused a diesel tank at another of its facilities to collapse and spill 20,000 tons of diesel, turning a river red."
[22:10:14] * chromas hamburgles
[22:09:37] * RandomFactor grimaces
[22:08:57] <chromas> Is it a null-terminated strong?
[22:08:48] <chromas> "the latest in a strong of environmental catastrophes to befall the nation."
[22:07:48] <exec> └─ 13Russian River Runs Orange After a Catastrophic Mine Spill
[22:07:48] <systemd> ^ 03Russian River Runs Orange After a Catastrophic Mine Spill
[22:07:47] <RandomFactor> I blame the Dutch...or maybe Home Depot https://earther.gizmodo.com
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[22:06:27] <chromas> Hire some virtual rubes to convert your dollars to bitcoins, 'donate' to twitter-based scam, buy hookers and blow
[22:05:07] <RandomFactor> (honest question)
[22:04:33] <RandomFactor> Bitcoin needs laundered?
[21:58:52] <chromas> or...did they? Perhaps it's all a scam to launder money they already had
[21:43:59] <RandomFactor> Within seconds it seems
[21:42:42] <chromas> People actually fell for that.
[21:42:30] <chromas> "You send $1,000 an I will send $2,000 back!"
[21:32:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Twitter’s Shadowban Confirmed" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:31:55] <exec> └─ 13Twitter’s shadowban confirmed | David Scullion | The Critic Magazine
[21:31:54] <systemd> Submitting "Twitter’s shadowban confirmed"...
[21:31:52] <RandomFactor> =submit surprising absolutely noone https://thecritic.co.uk
[20:16:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The TLS 1.2 Deadline is Looming, How Well Do You Have Your Act Together? - https://sylnt.us
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[19:22:55] <FatPhil> the front of the zoom is bigger than my iris, that's what I'm banking on
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[19:16:27] <halibut> FatPhil: The camera may help, too. Zoom is not very important. You just want the extra light collection. I guess your eye can pick the comet out from a bright background better if there is more light available.
[19:15:38] <halibut> FatPhil: It sounds like light pollution might be just too much. Even with a lot of light pollution, though, even small binoculars help a lot. You might try it.
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[18:55:39] <systemd> Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. At least a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would likely have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue.
[18:55:39] <SoyGuest271828> =declined
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[18:07:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Common FDA-Approved Drug May Effectively Neutralize Virus that Causes COVID-19 - https://sylnt.us - worth-a-shot
[16:08:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:08:29] <systemd> Submitting "Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking"...
[16:08:29] <exec> └─ 13Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking | WIRED
[16:08:28] <RandomFactor> =submit MFA https://www.wired.com
[16:05:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Blood Iron Levels Could be Key to Slowing Ageing, Gene Study Shows" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:04:55] <systemd> Submitting "Blood iron levels could be key to slowing ageing, gene study shows"...
[16:04:54] <exec> └─ 13Blood iron levels could be key to slowing ageing, gene study shows | EurekAlert! Science News
[16:04:52] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.eurekalert.org
[15:55:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Brief: Researchers 3D Print a Working Heart Pump with Real Human Cells - https://sylnt.us - I'll-take-two
[13:46:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Report 3-D Printed Latex Rubber Breakthrough - https://sylnt.us - does-it-help-with-text-formatting?
[13:09:13] <FatPhil> #FatLivesMatter
[13:08:56] <FatPhil> I identify as muscular.
[13:03:19] <carny> i'm losing weight as fast as i can
[13:03:10] <carny> hey you shut up
[12:48:55] <FatPhil> Let's scrap the somamyths too: No, you aren't 'skinny', 'muscular', or 'fat'.
[12:41:15] <exec> └─ 13Let's scrap the neuromyths: No, you aren't a 'visual' or 'auditory' person
[12:41:14] <systemd> ^ 03Let's scrap the neuromyths: No, you aren't a 'visual' or 'auditory' person
[12:41:13] <carny> https://medicalxpress.com
[12:40:54] <exec> └─ 13Thousands of Small Business Owners Have Not Gotten Disaster Loans the Government Promised Them — ProPublica
[12:40:52] <systemd> ^ 03Thousands of Small Business Owners Have Not Gotten Disaster Loans the Government Promised Them ( https://www.propublica.org )
[12:40:51] <carny> https://tracking.feedpress.com
[11:56:02] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:55:56] <Bytram> better to find that out before you have personal stuff moved in and getting damaged!
[11:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> one more cup of coffee first though. and a smoke while i'm at it for good measure.
[11:54:56] <Bytram> SNL had it right: We're going to pump you *up*
[11:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[11:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh plenty. like we had ~30 gallons of water on the floor the other day because the output hose on the french drain pump disconnected itself and it was just circulating water from the dry well to the dry well not removing it
[11:53:03] <Bytram> Oh, will you still have your same internet provider at the new location?
[11:52:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, think ima go up there and run some flex conduit from a weatherproof box outside so the cable guys don't have to figure out how to route or mount their cable when it's time
[11:51:19] <Bytram> do I dare ask what can go wrong with sheetrock and fixtures? Plumbing is done, right? and rommie is an electrician, right? So that covers the big stuff.
[11:49:33] <Bytram> Optimist!
[11:49:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> more than that most likely. haven't had anything go smoothly yet, don't see it starting up now.
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[11:47:43] <Bytram> sounds good! another month or so before move-in?
[11:46:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully near the rough-in inspection. mostly sheetrock and fixtures after that
[11:44:12] <Bytram> how's construction coming along? Getting near the end?
[11:43:46] <Bytram> almost, but not quite!
[11:43:18] * systemd almost incoherently waves a spoon of false promises at Bytram
[11:43:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gawk Bytram
[11:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya...
[11:40:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> "swedish-made penis enlarger pump"
[11:36:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Admin Caves to Harvard and MIT, Won’t Deport Online-Only Students - https://sylnt.us - sudden-outbreak-of-common-sense?
[11:36:16] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:34:03] <boru> "Breaking News: The popular news website 'Soylent News' has been shutdown and had their servers siezed for investigation into charges of terrorism and organised crime."
[11:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> "yearly boot allowance for hitmen"
[11:31:27] <boru> "ANFOS for saturday"
[11:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> "covid ppe for numbers runners"
[11:17:00] <Bytram> biab
[11:16:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5309
[11:16:57] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:16:45] * systemd covertly liberates a handbag of Soylent News from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:16:45] <Bytram> =gleam TheMightyBuzzard
[11:16:26] <exec> <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd suggest running that idea past Matt_ before doing anything
[11:16:24] <Bytram> s/do.$/anything/
[11:15:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd suggest running that idea past Matt_ before doing do.
[11:13:45] <boru> "Ghislaine Maxwell's payoff"
[11:13:20] <boru> Indeed.
[11:12:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i find it very difficult to resist putting silly things in superfluous fields
[11:10:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> since all payments going from stripe to the bank are the same thing, it's a superfluous field
[11:10:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> "extortion payments for july"
[11:09:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> "CIA slush fund"
[11:08:14] <boru> "cartel ransom"
[11:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if nobody cares, i'm going to have some fun with it. put stuff like "laundered mob money" and "union kickbacks" in the memo field.
[11:06:01] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
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[10:54:52] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[10:54:50] <boru> Needs physical access, but still.
[10:54:28] <exec> └─ 13Hardware Attack Exposes nRF52 Debugger
[10:54:27] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[10:54:25] <boru> #submit https://www.infoq.com This chip is used in so many bluetooth products. Might be fun to go wardriving and find some and see if any have accessible SWD pins.
[10:37:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd sooner guess that was Matt_ doing the PayPal activity... 1st half is over and is time to do a Balance Sheet and a Profit/Loss statement and taxes due and all that.
[09:36:51] <boru> Feh.
[09:36:42] <MrPlow> Gulbransson-Museum, Kurgarten 5, 83684 Tegernsee, Germany - Today: "Rain throughout the day." 61/52F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 99%, Wind ~3mph. Fri: "Rain until evening." 62/48F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 99%, Wind ~2mph. Sat: "Possible light rain in the evening." 68/54F, Humidity: 70%, Precip: 64%, Wind ~3mph.
[09:36:41] <boru> #weather tegernsee
[09:32:09] <boru> Hmm, looking at the artifacts I think there's an out of focus image in that stack somewhere. I should re-run my pipeline.
[09:30:27] <boru> (Ha being hydrogen alpha emission)
[09:29:26] <boru> That's mostly unprocessed data short of calibration and histogram processing, hence the artifacts and downsampling for the web.
[09:28:53] <boru> sources like the moon and the sky will lower SNR at any wavelength, but it's an improvement for specific emissions. For example, here is the IC1318 (Gamma Cygni Nebula) Ha emission line which I imaged in suboptimal skies: https://i.ibb.co
[09:28:47] <boru> You'd be surprised how much you can do even in an urban environment; I do a lot of narrowband imaging, mostly emission nebulae. Narrow FWHM are quite suited for uniform light pollution e.g. low/high power sodium lights have a very define emission line which can be filtered out e.g. if you're imaging H-a, [OIII], [SII] or [NII] etc, since you're filtering out all but that light. Of course, broadband light
[09:25:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Charter's Hidden "Broadcast TV" Fee Now Adds $197 a Year to Cable Bills - https://sylnt.us - double-dip
[08:44:22] <FatPhil> however, I have a nice zoom on my camera, so will try to fake it
[08:41:46] <FatPhil> Yay, capital cities.
[08:41:32] <FatPhil> Absolutely no chance here. Even on the darkest of nights we'll only get about 20 stars visible in the night sky, so I guess that's a magnitude 2 cutoff. And it's mid-summer now, so no hope.
[08:40:26] <FatPhil> oooh, well done sir!
[08:33:08] <halibut> I managed to join the ranks of people who saw Comet NEOWISE with the naked eye.
[07:45:48] <FatPhil> Anyone done any comet spotting yet?
[07:17:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists May Have Found One Path to a Longer Life - https://sylnt.us
[05:55:08] <MrPlow> Town Hall Square, Raekoja plats, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 72/58F, Humidity: 68%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~5mph. Fri: "Clear throughout the day." 73/57F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~6mph. Sat: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 76/58F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 2%, Wind ~5mph.
[05:55:06] <FatPhil> #weather
[05:42:12] <FatPhil> Bytram: the ">Removed at user request." beenz!
[05:29:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:28:53] <systemd> Submitting "Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition"...
[05:28:52] <exec> └─ 13Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition | EFF Action Center
[05:28:51] <nutherguy> =submit https://act.eff.org
[05:18:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SIGRed (CVE-2020-1350) Critical Remote Code Execution Vulnerability on Microsoft DNS Servers - https://sylnt.us - Security
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[04:10:50] <nutherguy> or, if they do, it's so alien the rest of us cannot detect it
[04:10:36] <nutherguy> Accountants have no sense of humor
[03:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, i have access to the stripe and paypal accounts. no i don't to the bank account. gotta code for the payment processors but no code touches the bank.
[03:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, looks like NCommander started paying attention to transferring the Stripe balance to the bank again. guess he didn't find me putting "hookers and blow" in the transfer memo as amusing as i did.
[03:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> one can only hope
[03:07:45] <AzumaHazuki> the fix involves a Linux or BSD live medium i assume :D
[03:07:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> good rule of thumb, unique instances of idiotic jackassery _probably_ don't qualify but repetitive ones almost always will. arguable cases don't result in a ban but they need to be arguable to someone who isn't all worked up over $whatever.
[03:07:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Outlook is Crashing Worldwide With 0xc0000005 Errors, How to Fix - https://sylnt.us - thanks-for-the-update
[03:05:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, bed for me unless anyone needs something else
[02:59:02] * TheMightyBuzzard drops a note to #soupersekritchannel that the mods in question were on repetitive noise comments
[02:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure it does. you're all part of it. get to work.
[02:56:07] <AzumaHazuki> this site has no immune system
[02:56:00] <AzumaHazuki> i counted two instances, and there will undoubtedly be more coming
[02:55:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, if they do it more than once, it'd qualify. short of that for the type of post described, i'd personally just reverse it and not ban on grounds of being arguable but not quite there.
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[02:53:05] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
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[01:37:53] <AzumaHazuki> no, it's the "pacman" emoji from something awful, the emoticon equivalent of "hurrrr!"
[01:37:26] <AzumaHazuki> sure
[01:37:18] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Oi. PM?
[01:27:02] <chromas> is that a Canadian smile?
[01:22:06] <AzumaHazuki> question for the admins: if someone has a weird idea of trolling where they quote one of your previous posts wholesale and modify it (in this case, just adding "nigger" into it somewhere) can I spam mod it? :v
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[00:56:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Musk, Obama, Biden, Bezos, Gates-Bitcoin Scam Hits Twitter in Coordinated Blitz - https://sylnt.us - TANSTAAFL
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