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[01:16:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intelsat Orbital Comms Satellite is Back Online - https://sylnt.us - featherless-birds-of-a-feather?
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[02:12:44] <chromas> https://thehill.com
[02:12:45] <systemd> ^ 03EPA weighs lifting ethanol requirements for oil refiners
[02:12:48] <chromas> Finally some good news
[02:32:16] <kyonko_> kids are gonna go loooooooooooooooooooooooong straws
[02:33:53] <AzumaHazuki> ?
[03:37:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Decentralized Protocol Removed From EU Contact Tracing Website Without Notice - https://sylnt.us - Quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes?
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[05:57:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smart Toilet Gadget Recognises Users by their 'Anal Print' and Analyses Deposits - https://sylnt.us - Really?-No-Shit!
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[08:16:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brown Hares and Chickens were Treated as 'Gods,' Not Food when they Arrived in Britain - https://sylnt.us - hares-to-eating-chicken
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[09:09:31] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:09:33] <systemd> ^ 03Coffee Percolators: An Explanation and Roast
[09:09:46] <GrandFireWizard> hmm
[09:10:09] <GrandFireWizard> I don't see why they needed to sensor her ass.. you can hardly see it anyway
[09:10:38] <kyonko_> hospitals are health nazis
[09:10:42] <kyonko_> decaff everything
[09:10:45] <kyonko_> nicotine free
[09:10:49] <kyonko_> carb controls
[09:11:01] <kyonko_> and flowers for algernon
[09:11:24] <kyonko_> I was a wee lad in elementary school
[09:11:44] <kyonko_> I was urinating in the boys room and the odor of what I would later learn as a 20-something was sotolon emerged from my micturation
[09:13:35] <kyonko_> if I am TB+ I know when I got it
[09:13:46] <kyonko_> son of a bitch
[09:13:47] <GrandFireWizard> hello kyonko
[09:13:51] <kyonko_> hai
[09:14:02] <GrandFireWizard> TB+?
[09:14:16] <kyonko_> tuberculosis positive
[09:14:19] <kyonko_> I may be a carrier
[09:14:24] <kyonko_> got exposed to it at the hospital
[09:14:37] <kyonko_> all my priors tests were negative, but I got exposed post test
[09:14:58] <kyonko_> how will the laymen ever understand?
[09:14:59] <GrandFireWizard> there are tests for that
[09:15:03] <kyonko_> yes
[09:15:07] <GrandFireWizard> isn't TB more or less wiped out?
[09:15:10] <kyonko_> nah
[09:15:19] <kyonko_> why does food go bad?
[09:15:25] <kyonko_> why do dead bodies decompose?
[09:16:11] <kyonko_> oh you mean you think disease can become extinct like macroorganisms?
[09:16:17] <GrandFireWizard> do you want a scientific lecture, or are you pontificating ?
[09:16:19] <kyonko_> like dodos and tasmanian wolfs?
[09:17:09] <kyonko_> kinda shitty food is my only cope
[09:17:11] <GrandFireWizard> tigers
[09:17:14] <GrandFireWizard> tasmanian tigers
[09:17:15] <kyonko_> from here to age 80-90
[09:17:17] <kyonko_> ok
[09:17:29] <GrandFireWizard> has anyone seen a dodo recently?
[09:17:35] <GrandFireWizard> other than in a museum ?
[09:17:36] <kyonko_> only in taxidermy
[09:18:04] <kyonko_> there is a lot of bad taxidermy
[09:18:39] <kyonko_> I may be a TB carrier, but I won't spread it
[09:18:57] <kyonko_> i'm a virgin after all
[09:18:58] <GrandFireWizard> I've never seen a stuffed dodo..
[09:19:19] <GrandFireWizard> that can be fixed with $500 and a trip to the right building..
[09:19:28] <kyonko_> oh thats taboo here
[09:19:35] <kyonko_> it happens, but taboo
[09:19:57] <kyonko_> we also can't relieve ourselfs in public either
[09:20:37] <kyonko_> losing your virginity to a prostitute sounds so cyberpunk
[09:20:38] <GrandFireWizard> and?
[09:20:50] <GrandFireWizard> visit a bar?
[09:20:51] <GrandFireWizard> no, wait..
[09:20:56] <GrandFireWizard> that could be problematic
[09:20:58] <kyonko_> before wait
[09:21:05] <GrandFireWizard> join a book club at a local library
[09:21:14] <kyonko_> well it was a problem since the legislature passed zero tolerance dui and public intoxication laws
[09:21:27] <kyonko_> i live in a majority latino and catholic area
[09:21:27] <GrandFireWizard> you would not believe what some librarians get in to..
[09:21:29] <kyonko_> "sacred labor"
[09:21:33] <GrandFireWizard> move?
[09:21:38] <GrandFireWizard> oh
[09:21:39] <GrandFireWizard> easy
[09:21:41] <GrandFireWizard> visit a nunnery
[09:21:47] <kyonko_> moving will stress me so much I'll pick up drinking again
[09:21:54] <kyonko_> promptly die
[09:21:59] <GrandFireWizard> oh well
[09:22:06] <GrandFireWizard> it may be worth it?
[09:22:09] <GrandFireWizard> how will you ever know?
[09:22:43] <Cascade> Either way, problem solved.
[09:23:29] <kyonko_> well
[09:23:40] <kyonko_> I did see how life turned out over the past 20 years
[09:23:47] <kyonko_> really, not worth it
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[09:23:54] <kyonko_> we're all africans, dawkins is right
[09:24:06] <kyonko_> (stylized A for african and atheist)
[09:24:25] <kyonko_> its not death thats the problem, its the dying part
[09:24:42] <kyonko_> its not being african thats the problem, its living in africa
[09:26:31] <GrandFireWizard> last 20 years?? try last two months
[09:26:50] <GrandFireWizard> yes, we're all descended from black people. oh no!
[09:38:31] <kyonko_> I have all the black people diseases
[09:38:36] <kyonko_> especially the mental ones
[09:38:50] <kyonko_> my mom is exponentially impulsive and immature for her age
[09:38:52] <kyonko_> very freudian
[09:39:06] <kyonko_> stuck in the anal stage and never grew beyond
[09:39:38] <kyonko_> been trying to wake her up from her hypnotic state for over 10 years to no avail
[09:55:31] <GrandFireWizard> well, given that all people are descended ultimately from 'black' people you probably should call them 'human' diseases
[09:57:24] <GrandFireWizard> unless you can find humans walking around today that didn't descend from the original migration from Africa not that long ago - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:57:25] <systemd> ^ 03Recent African origin of modern humans - Wikipedia
[09:57:32] <GrandFireWizard> unless you claim to be feline.
[10:04:09] <FatPhil> Sickle Cell disease is a pretty good candidate for being called a 'black disease' if anything is. However, Indians might object to that classification if they care about inclusivity.
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[10:38:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study: ‘Oumuamua Interstellar Object Might be Remnant of a “Super-Earth” - https://sylnt.us - sometimes,-an-Oumuamua-is-just-an-Oumuamua
[11:59:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:59:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5179
[12:26:20] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[12:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake exec's dead ass
[12:27:23] * MrPlow smakes exec's dead ass upside the head with a Rickroll
[12:27:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gday FatPhil
[12:27:30] * systemd presumably penetrates a hollowed out iMac of false promises with FatPhil
[12:27:35] <FatPhil> =gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:27:35] * systemd retroactively sets a Borg cube of dollars by TheMightyBuzzard
[12:28:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot!
[12:28:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> false promises for both of us!
[12:28:17] <FatPhil> coke and strippers are on Buzz!
[12:29:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> =gday FatPhil
[12:29:47] * systemd freely pours a set of EF's extensions for FatPhil
[12:29:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> =gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:29:50] * systemd hurriedly corrupts a drum of knowledges with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gday AndyTheAbsurd
[12:29:57] * systemd willingly tosses a whiff of classic rock at AndyTheAbsurd
[12:30:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> only a whiff? :( I guess Buzz wins that one.
[12:31:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> a whiff of a bob dylan or tom petty show would be plenty
[12:33:52] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[12:33:53] <systemd> ^ 03Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No More (Official Music Video)
[12:33:58] <FatPhil> =gday AndyTheAbsurd
[12:33:58] * systemd defiantly sodomizes a wad of rancid milk with AndyTheAbsurd
[12:34:07] <FatPhil> ewwwwww
[12:34:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> noice
[12:34:35] <FatPhil> Everyone who even witnessed that lost
[12:34:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was more thinking https://www.youtube.com than Tom Petty.
[12:34:38] <systemd> ^ 03Styx - Renegade
[12:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[12:34:40] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 766
[12:35:18] <FatPhil> Don't really know Styx. I probably should do.
[12:35:38] <FatPhil> getting a lot of HTTP Error 403: Forbidden from yt presently
[12:37:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> There's like... four Styx songs that I know? Renegade, Come Sail Away, Mr. Roboto, and Too Much Time On My Hands.
[12:42:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole 80s tunes...
[12:42:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> 80s++
[12:42:23] <Bender> karma - 80s: 1
[12:48:18] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:48:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5180
[12:48:24] <Bytram> =gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:48:24] * systemd dexterously throws a blerg of juicy farts at TheMightyBuzzard
[12:48:27] <Bytram> =gday FatPhil
[12:48:27] * systemd inadvertantly vomits an XFS volume of gnutella on FatPhil
[12:48:44] <Bytram> =gday AndyTheAbsurd
[12:48:44] * systemd figuratively gives a training bra of jiggling juggs to AndyTheAbsurd
[12:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gday Bytram
[12:50:06] * systemd hypothetically scissors a steel drum of salsa for Bytram
[12:50:39] <Bytram> how ya be?
[12:50:57] * Bytram had a little snow this am to wake up to. Brrrr!
[12:51:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> decaffeinated but working to remedy that
[12:51:55] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Quick question about the site, if I may wrt templates?
[12:52:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight. no guarantees on the answer being intelligible though
[12:52:36] <Bytram> If I make a template change in the UI, and save it... how "safe" is the change? Is it stored in the DB?
[12:53:04] <Bytram> How concerned should I be about saving away those changes in a secure place for them to be resurrected?
[12:53:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes. it's persistent until a code update or another change
[12:53:27] <Bytram> that sounds good...
[12:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> very. anything you don't write down we WILL forget to write down and it will get overwritten later.
[12:53:47] <Bytram> so when would those changes get lost? A fresh install? Reboot of the servers?
[12:54:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> any site update
[12:54:29] <Bytram> Hence my copious notes in these channels, and/or on the site.
[12:54:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> won't cut it. needs to be in github or it'll get forgotten no matter how many post-its you have up
[12:55:45] <Bytram> understood. I find that GitHub's GUI is a pain. Why can I not do everything from the command line in a TTY?
[12:55:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> erm, you can
[12:56:04] <Bytram> Actions on their GUI effective are just commands to git in some form or another.
[12:56:07] <Bytram> Huh?
[12:56:13] <Bytram> I can?
[12:56:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only thing i do in the website is create and merge pull requests
[12:57:36] <Bytram> ISTR your walking me through a bunch of "mystery meat navigation" clicks on github that were not intuitive to me and promptly forgotten.
[12:58:35] <janrinok> =gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:58:35] * systemd unwittingly throws some stock footage of turtle jizz at TheMightyBuzzard
[12:58:40] <janrinok> =gday Bytram
[12:58:41] * systemd carefully synthesizes an overflowing treasure chest of brass rings from Bytram
[12:59:19] <Bytram> I know you are busy, so I'll leave it at that. Hopefully I'll have my ubuntu lappy in good shape before too long and then I can do proper git commands without worrying about Windows' complications such as filename capitalization
[12:59:25] <Bytram> =gday janrinok
[12:59:25] * systemd arrogantly $action a systemd-nspawn container of hot wings $preposition janrinok
[13:00:03] * Bytram just notices a new couple of subscriptions... goes to update the beg-o-meter
[13:00:03] <janrinok> ooh - I got a $preposition....
[13:00:18] <Bytram> janrinok: Hey, was one of those subscriptions yours?
[13:00:22] <janrinok> yep
[13:00:34] <Bytram> janrinok++ thank you so very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:00:34] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 66
[13:00:59] <Bytram> You give so much of your time, already... I'm speechless!
[13:01:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gday janrinok
[13:01:23] * systemd allegedly flings a systemd journal of error messages at janrinok
[13:01:35] <janrinok> got to reach our target before you get too upset
[13:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, the down side is you gotta learn to use the git command line and you can't forget to keep your repository's master branch updated
[13:02:04] <janrinok> hiya buzz - not working on your house/home/church today?
[13:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> not yet, still caffeinating
[13:02:26] <janrinok> fairy nuff
[13:03:41] <janrinok> Bytram, at least we are over half way to the target now
[13:03:57] <janrinok> time for tea...
[13:04:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that is what scripts are for. I can abstract away the process and let it remember the gory details. Yet, if needed, I can always look back at the script source and do it manually, if needed.
[13:04:38] <Bytram> tea++
[13:04:38] <Bender> karma - tea: 618
[13:04:57] <Bytram> janrinok++ thanks to you! Beg-o-Meter updated!
[13:04:57] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 67
[13:05:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, this ain't something can be scripted
[13:05:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> write yourself a cheat sheet
[13:05:29] <Bytram> oh. okay.
[13:05:49] <Bytram> coffee++ brb
[13:05:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5181
[13:06:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it could but it's not gonna save you many keystrokes except in the long run and only then if you make the commands two or three letters
[13:07:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In a First, NASA Measures Wind Speed on a Brown Dwarf - https://sylnt.us - the-way-the-wind-blows
[13:09:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i'll set you up a local repo on dev here as soon as my brain gets enough caffeine in it to remember my own name
[13:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> then write you a cheat sheet
[13:10:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Would not be for the keystrokes so much as having something else that can remember the syntactic vagaries, and the sequence of operations, for me. When I am deep in problem-solving mode, the last thing I need is to try and remember what the next step is or what the exact syntax needs to be.
[13:10:55] <Bytram> Besides, trying to script it will help me to learn what the commands are and do. =)
[13:11:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Obliged.
[13:11:20] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, any chance I could have access to the repo too?
[13:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. i can put the cheet sheet on the tech wiki if you like. that way you can bookmark it
[13:11:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, don't you already?
[13:11:46] <Bytram> No rush. Already got plenty on my plate so doubt I',l be getting to it too soon.
[13:11:51] <janrinok> er, which repo?
[13:12:09] <janrinok> I've got access to dev, of course
[13:12:30] <Bytram> twiki page would be good. Would be good to mention it in #dev so I can find it later.
[13:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> well all work needs to be done from your own fork of the SoylentNews/rehash repo on github then pull requested.
[13:13:00] <janrinok> Bytram, there are loads of cheat sheets on the interweb thingy
[13:13:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> but working from a local copy of your own repo on dev is SOP
[13:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[13:15:44] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 767
[13:16:47] <Bytram> I expect there are cheat sheets out there for git, but I have found it extremely rare for them to be written to be ... complete. Often assume one already understands certain things, gloss over things that do not apply in *this* case, but could be needed later. My brain spiders through permutations, and when I find something left out... I did x, y, and z like they said... and now I see something that does not look like what I think they
[13:16:47] <Bytram> are describing.
[13:17:56] <janrinok> https://github.github.com - is useful
[13:18:02] <Bytram> Invariably, I find they fail to explicitize the syntax AND semantics
[13:18:57] <Bytram> janrinok: Is that JUST git, or working with git AND github?
[13:21:04] <janrinok> just git
[13:21:39] <Bytram> ohhh, nice!
[13:25:11] <Bytram> downloaded and printing now. TYVM!
[13:25:30] <janrinok> np
[13:25:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, it ain't so much a cheat sheet for how git works as a cheat sheet for how WE do things
[13:26:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: got it. thanks for the clarification.
[13:26:21] <janrinok> just don't try to remember it all on day 1 - or even understand all of it.
[13:27:05] * TheMightyBuzzard is really dragging ass today
[13:27:07] <Bytram> janrinok: you know me too well!
[13:27:18] <Bytram> ditto, break time. biab
[13:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, do you have a github account already?
[13:45:22] <janrinok> no, not on github. I do have my own local server repo though
[13:47:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to need a github account unless you know how to make pull requests from your repo server to a github repo. i don't.
[13:47:50] <janrinok> ok
[13:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> after you get one made and are all logged in hit https://github.com and look up in the top right quarter for where it says "fork" and make yourself a fork.
[13:49:18] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews/rehash
[13:52:16] <janrinok> OK - it seems like I _do_ have a github account - just recovering the password now. Must have created it years ago
[13:52:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[13:54:21] * TheMightyBuzzard steps away for some nicotine and coffee recycling
[14:04:51] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
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[14:06:48] <janrinok> I have my own copy of rehash - thx
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[14:08:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, okey doke. user name janrinok on github?
[14:17:03] <janrinok> yep
[14:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> not seeing you as having a fork
[14:22:32] <janrinok> just checking
[14:23:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> having a local copy only leaves you unable to contribute in an easy way
[14:25:10] <janrinok> trying to get back to the original page - check again for fork pse
[14:26:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke, gimme just a sec and i'll set you up a local repo on dev tied to that
[14:26:56] <janrinok> brb nurse
[14:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, can you sudo on dev?
[14:46:30] <janrinok> at the moment I can't even ssh into dev
[14:48:03] <janrinok> gtg - back on later
[14:48:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> laters
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[15:10:28] * FatPhil swears at the bloody french, grrrr!!!!
[15:35:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Smallest Large Display is Projected Straight Onto Your Retina - https://sylnt.us - welcome-to-the-Oasis
[15:57:31] * Soybull swears indiscriminately
[16:04:37] <FatPhil> Fucking french bloody fucking students, having a fucking party, have created an outbreak in our 2nd largest city. Cunts. Send them home - using a fucking trebuchet!
[16:05:10] <FatPhil> Strangely, my job application to become a diplomat was rejected.
[16:36:24] <chromas> Instead of "endian" wouldn't it be less offensive to say "native binarian"?
[16:40:09] <janrinok> FatPhil, what are French students doing in Estonia? They shouldn't even be leaving France!
[17:00:47] <FatPhil> presumably they've been here a while
[17:01:08] <FatPhil> alas estonian sensibilities have not rubbed off on them yet, it seems
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[17:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Some Shirts Hide You From Cameras - https://sylnt.us - where's-waldo?
[18:07:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Some Shirts Hide You from Cameras - https://sylnt.us - where's-waldo?
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[18:55:22] <FatPhil> Spain "Authorizes" Military Planes To Spray Disinfectants Over Cities
[19:02:21] <kyonko_> that doesn't make sense, pathogens had in the shadows
[19:02:25] <kyonko_> hide
[19:02:37] <kyonko_> I find the painter suits for PPE very sarcastic
[19:02:45] <kyonko_> I hope you get good coverage!
[19:03:02] <kyonko_> is it dies or is it photolithography?
[19:03:58] <kyonko_> imagine a mars colony, it looks like a microbiology pathology lab..... weird
[20:01:51] <Soybull> we must slaughter the pets to save ourselves!!
[20:02:00] <Soybull> -submit https://www.vice.com
[20:02:01] <systemd> ^ 03Yes, Your Pet Can Catch Coronavirus
[20:02:41] <Soybull> There is an insidious network of felines spreading the coronavirus around the world
[20:03:01] <Soybull> they wear T-shirts that say "All your base are belong to us!"
[20:06:08] <chromas> That's why I use tee instead of cat
[20:16:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Music on the Web is No Longer in Beta -- Including on Linux - https://sylnt.us - let-there-be-music
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[22:25:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ICANN Delays .Org Sale Again After Scathing Letter From California AG - https://sylnt.us - public-interest?
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[23:24:22] <Bytram> =g "The Chaos"
[23:24:23] <systemd> http://ncf.idallen.com - The Chaos - Gerard Nolst Trenité