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[01:03:34] <chromas> RandomFactor's journal entry reminded me of progressquest, so I thought I'd port it to loonix but lazarus keeps crashing. fpos
[01:03:39] * chromas blames the tool
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[01:34:50] <AzumaHazuki> this is kind of nostalgic, sitting at the console with MOC and Irssi and a bunch of emerges going
[01:34:58] <AzumaHazuki> oddly healing (?) too
[01:46:32] <FatPhil> https://www.zillow.com
[01:46:51] <FatPhil> -funrollloops!
[01:47:31] <AzumaHazuki> meh, Gentoo is what you make of it. you can build a competent, conservative system just as easily (easier) as an unstable ricebox
[01:47:46] <AzumaHazuki> my cflags are just -O2 -pipe -march=znver2
[01:49:00] <FatPhil> It seemed saner ~4 years ago than it was ~10 years ago.
[01:49:22] <FatPhil> the IRC support channels were really good too.
[01:49:52] <FatPhil> Not enough to convert me off debian, but that's because devuan cam along.
[01:51:03] <FatPhil> slackware was quite the opposite, it seemed to be as insane as possible, and when you asked why something illogical was being done, the IRC channels had useful advice like "because you're too stupid to understand why that's a good thing".
[01:54:01] <AzumaHazuki> no kidding? i'd have expected Slack to be old-school and chill
[02:06:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon To Contest Microsoft Scooping $10bn Jedi Contract - https://sylnt.us - Use-The-Courts-Jeff
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[02:35:26] <chromas> You can do -march=native now
[02:35:44] <AzumaHazuki> i could, yeah
[02:38:10] * AzumaHazuki also has beef broth compiling in the slow cooker
[02:38:41] <AzumaHazuki> emerge -a onion garlic beefbone black_pepper ginger
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[02:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is indeed the sweet. just don't let it go several months without updating or you'll regret it. circular dependencies suck ass.
[02:59:19] <chromas> updating more often eliminates circular dependencies?
[03:00:11] <AzumaHazuki> it makes them less likely
[03:01:00] <AzumaHazuki> also i found a neat trick: boot from the Artix live medium, and once chroot'd, issue make localyesconfig in /usr/src/linux to get a very minimal kernel that works well with present hardware
[03:01:20] <AzumaHazuki> i had to tweak it a bit to accommodate the LVM-on-LUKS setup but it works great
[03:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i cheat and use calculate. gentoo with a binhost. they build with pretty decent use flags, so i only have a few things to actually compile each update.
[03:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> and then there's the SN gentoo servers that i didn't update for a few months. python version require a newer version of portage and the newer version of portage required the new version of python.
[03:06:18] <AzumaHazuki> it feels really, really nice to have some decent horsepower under the hood. this may be the first time ever actually
[03:06:21] <AzumaHazuki> ...oh, gods ><
[03:09:58] <AzumaHazuki> how did you fix that clusterfuck?
[03:10:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> emerge -aO on portage and the deps that didn't require the new portage version.
[03:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> after i spent a few hours trying to get it done the proper way.
[03:12:04] <AzumaHazuki> ick. i kind of worry Gentoo will get fragile and finicky after a while...
[03:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> -O == fuck off with your deps bitching
[03:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, that's why we have separate /home partitions
[03:13:17] <AzumaHazuki> indeed
[03:13:26] <chromas> portage runs on python?
[03:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> no epic issues so far for me though and i been on it again for like five years
[03:13:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently
[03:14:27] <chromas> hah
[03:15:01] <AzumaHazuki> i really do prefer pacman or even xbps, but those are for binary packages
[03:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[03:15:18] <AzumaHazuki> there's probably a better way than python (bash?) but emerge works well enough
[03:15:41] <chromas> Should be assembly to get the maximum rice
[03:15:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, except when you screw around too long and they major version update it
[03:16:10] <AzumaHazuki> you haven't been eselect news read'ing :v
[03:16:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> hadn't been anything. been too busy to monkey with the servers.
[03:16:54] <chromas> slack has slapt-get. Maybe gentoo can have pacmerge
[03:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's gentoo. you can put anything you like in it.
[03:17:25] <AzumaHazuki> and if it breaks you get to keep the pieces
[03:17:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[03:18:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really do like having a binhost though. it's niiiiice.
[03:18:35] <AzumaHazuki> > not hacking the government of a small country and using their entire bureaucratic infrastructure as distcc nodes
[03:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean the one for my personal box is okay but using lithium as a binhost for all the other gentoo boxes for SN saves a shitload of update time on the servers folks would notice being down or at least bogged down.
[03:19:01] <chromas> gentoo.nsa.gov
[03:19:12] <AzumaHazuki> lol, the SELinux box
[03:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> how them fuckers can OSS stuff to secure computers and then spend all their time breaking into them boggles my mind
[03:21:01] <AzumaHazuki> backdoors everywhere probably. Orwellian doublespeak: whose "security" and how exactly has it been "enhanced?"
[03:21:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> or arguing against encryption from the same folks who started selinux
[03:21:06] <chromas> well the broken Windows phallusy wasn't enough. They had to add Linux
[03:21:38] <AzumaHazuki> mweh, we're all pwned at the hardware level. As the SFZ3 announcer says, "forget danger, you can't be safe anyway"
[03:22:01] <AzumaHazuki> (that said, you *can* be "not a dumbshit")
[03:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i ain't. mine's coming up on its tenth birthday. no IME/PSP.
[03:22:44] <AzumaHazuki> unknown unknowns. there could be all kinds of shady shit in there that no one knows about yet
[03:22:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, but at least i don't know about it.
[03:23:14] <AzumaHazuki> i consider things like LUKS the equivalent of a deadbolt: keeps out the lazy, weak, and opportunistic
[03:24:03] <AzumaHazuki> the TLAs can break any crypto on the planet with better than O(n) efficiency...with a length of pipe, some rope, and some drugs
[03:24:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. the few things i consider actually sensitive instead of just private i slap in an encrypted loopback filesystem whose file lives in my LUKS partition.
[03:25:46] <AzumaHazuki> money and greed and lust for power ruin everything. i really hope this is my last lifetime as a human or worse.
[03:26:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, right. you're getting vogon next.
[03:26:20] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not a good enough poet for that
[03:27:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i want to be either a women's bicycle seat or something that eats catfish.
[03:28:10] <AzumaHazuki> so an alligator living in hunting country then :v
[03:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> racoon maybe. saw one of them noodling for catfish once. it would pat the water under a willow tree till a catfish bit its paw then yank the fish out and eat it.
[03:30:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, wore out from fishing. no more consciousness for me tonight.
[04:28:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Feds Indict 14 Over Alleged Scheme To Defraud Apple - https://sylnt.us - if-you-can't-do-the-time...
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[04:32:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahahhahah
[04:32:48] <Ethanol-fueled> It seems that the Chinks need to find more monies.
[04:33:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, come on then, Ted Liew, and the Yang gang, let's get Trump out of here.
[04:35:12] <Ethanol-fueled> You will lose. We will win. Now suck eggs, you cocksucking bastards!
[04:35:15] <Ethanol-fueled> HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[04:35:23] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHHHEEEEHEEHOOOOO!
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[05:00:32] <pinchy> a drive by EF
[05:04:46] <Julian> Alcoholic fatty liver disease killed him years ago. His account was turned over to a neural network trained on racist Youtube comments
[05:04:54] <Julian> (fan theory)
[05:05:33] <AzumaHazuki> who, eth? nah, he just broke the first rule of drug dealing (don't get high on your own supply) and has completely transformed into his persona
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[06:06:09] <Julian> His adrenochrome addiction will be his undoing
[06:11:44] <AzumaHazuki> his thing is jenkem, more like. his own supply
[06:14:19] <Julian> Was that an actual moral panic or a hoax meme
[06:14:34] <Julian> Or both I guess
[06:15:40] <Julian> Looking at the Wikipedia; wow that's a pre-Y2K meme
[06:16:35] <Julian> It reappared in 2007. Actually I remember joking about it in highschool with my highly online friends
[06:25:03] <AzumaHazuki> eth's had his head up his ass for so long his shit fermented and he got perma-high off it
[06:56:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Holiday Shoppers Beware: Look-Alike Domains Are Targeting Your Wallet - https://sylnt.us - protect-your-business
[07:23:58] <Julian> He's on my foes list. Nothing he's written is worth reading
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[08:28:35] <chromas> https://www.engadget.com
[08:28:36] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Wikipedia co-founder wants to give you an alternative to Facebook and Twitter
[08:28:38] <chromas> haha
[08:28:58] <chromas> he'd better get in line behind the other dozens and dozens of alternatives nobody uses
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[08:51:13] <Julian> We use twitter dot com because we hate life and ourselves, we don't WANT something better
[08:54:25] <chromas> but muh critical mass
[08:54:47] <chromas> Gotta shitpost on twitter because that's where all the shitposts are
[09:16:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The US House and Senate Finally Agree on Something: Robocalls - https://sylnt.us - good-luck-with-that
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[10:32:02] <Runaway1956__> Level 15 coffee machine? Is that as good as a Bunn?
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[11:28:38] <runtoff> =submit https://www.thedailybeast.com
[11:28:39] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Stephen Miller Can Push Racist Crap, but ‘The President Has His Back’"...
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[11:31:14] <runtoff> =submit https://www.thecanary.co
[11:31:16] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Far-right leader endorses Boris Johnson but let's face it, we saw it coming"...
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[11:35:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EU Bank To Stop Funding Fossil Fuels In 'Landmark Decision' - https://sylnt.us - climatic-decisions
[12:03:40] <chromas> from the deleted dept
[12:03:52] * chromas doesn't actually delete them
[12:55:45] <Runaway1956__> =submit https://thenextweb.com
[12:55:47] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Pro-anorexia forums are dangerous"...
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[13:01:46] <chromas> https://www.zdnet.com
[13:01:48] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Programming language Python 2's end looms, so why will many miss the deadline?
[13:07:08] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:07:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5036
[13:18:52] <chromas> https://www.zdnet.com
[13:18:55] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Thousands of hacked Disney+ accounts are already for sale on hacking forums
[13:44:39] <Runaway1956__> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[13:44:40] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Boeing received 'unnecessary' contract boost for astronaut capsule, watchdog says"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
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[13:48:48] <Runaway1956__> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[13:48:50] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Hong Kong Protests: Police and Demonstrators Clash at Occupied Campus"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.nytimes.com )
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[13:56:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Huawei's First Google-Free Phone Stripped And Searched: Repair Not Too Painful... Once You're In - https://sylnt.us - tearing-things-apart
[13:59:53] <Runaway1956__> =submit https://www.mintpressnews.com
[13:59:56] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Voices of Dissent Fall Victim to Twitter’s Now Permanent Ban Hammer"...
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[14:05:52] <Runaway1956__> =submit https://www.redstate.com
[14:05:53] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Anti-Obama Insurrection? Democrats Revolt Against Barack and His Warning Over Going 'Too Far Left'"...
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[14:13:35] <RandomFactor> My first attempt at Okonomiyaki is....edible
[17:17:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Metal Array Floats Even When Damaged - https://sylnt.us - 107.5-years-too-late
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[19:25:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Develop an AI System With Near-Perfect Seizure Prediction - https://sylnt.us
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[21:56:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple 'Surprised' by Germany's New Law to Open Up Mobile Payments - https://sylnt.us - EU-rules-rule
[22:25:35] <chromas> https://www.fox32chicago.com
[22:25:35] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Boy brings heroin to school, says when he tastes it he becomes 'Spider-Man'
[22:25:59] <chromas> heroin, hero out
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[22:49:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Was going to go to the local Mossad bar to watch some ball today, but last time I went I revealed my power level (again) around one of their Jewiest gatherings.
[22:50:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck it, the Chargers are playing Kansas City tomorrow
[22:51:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Hey Marty, heard the news. Glad you're doing well.
[22:51:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Certainly could have been much worse given the nature of the ailment.
[22:52:19] <Ethanol-fueled> eh guess I'll look for a stream and watch some ball here with this booze and cheap Mexican food.
[22:54:01] <Ethanol-fueled> so what should it be today, Cardinals-49ers or Patriots-Eagles?
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[23:58:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LA Warns of ‘Juice-Jacking’ Malware, but Admits It Has No Cases - https://sylnt.us - acting-before-the-problem-arises?