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[22:57:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hyundai Shows Off Exoskeleton Robot to Help Assembly Line Workers - http://sylnt.us
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[21:50:52] <upstart> ^ 03Jet Engines Run 90% on Compressed Air 10% Fuel or Free Energy !!!
[21:50:51] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[21:26:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Senator Wants Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg to Potentially Face Prison Term - http://sylnt.us - no-chance
[21:19:35] <chromas> They™ got 'im!
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[20:52:47] <boru> That involvement is a traditional one.
[20:52:20] <Sulla> I am aware of Mossad's bs, unaware of french involvement
[20:51:53] <boru> And also considering the French involvement there.
[20:50:54] <boru> A sayanim.
[20:50:43] <boru> He was just a public figurehead.
[20:50:15] <boru> i.e. Oded Yinon plan (1982), Hans Blitz's background etc.
[20:49:46] <boru> Well, I don't think the fault lies solely at his feet.
[20:49:09] <Sulla> it was also brennan saying it, who is the same one who lied about WMDs
[20:48:54] <Sulla> No its valid
[20:47:14] <boru> I don't mean to sound like your sterotypical foreigner waffling about the CIA, fwiw, but their history hardly fortifies their position.
[20:45:27] <Sulla> Thats reasonable
[20:45:10] <boru> I would say you are not sound of mind to take anything the CIA published publically as being anything remotely approaching truth.
[20:44:21] <boru> If anything, painting it in a given light would provide them with a launchpad for propaganda.
[20:43:45] <boru> Please, as if abominations like the CIA would be concerned about anything of the sort, given their history.
[20:42:53] <Sulla> Maybe said that wrong. Was not saying the CIA said they had people there, was saying the CIA was concered about the effect the site had on the election. Which i was using to say "its more than just shtiposting"
[20:42:52] <boru> The only possible motivation I could conceive for an announcement like that would be to herd users in a given direction to some other website.
[20:41:24] <boru> That is bonkers.
[20:41:14] <boru> Oh come on, don't be preposterous; as if the CIA would _ever_ publically state any website they had vested interest in.
[20:40:44] <Sulla> true that
[20:40:31] <boru> e.g. how it uses google captchas, how it has black listed a number of proxy and vpns.
[20:40:22] <Sulla> Though I don't really care to defend any o fit, as I pretty much only go to anime and diy
[20:39:38] <boru> The site has a number of red flags.
[20:39:33] <Sulla> Former chief of cia took it seriously
[20:39:20] <Sulla> John Brennan said that Russian memes (that had been made by 4chan) swong 70k votes in key states during the election
[20:38:55] <boru> You can't take it seriously.
[20:37:18] <boru> There are some enthusiast boards there which have a relatively high SNR e.g. /k/, but otherwise it's mostly just {mossad,reddit,stormfront} shitposting to the likes of /pol/ etc.
[20:36:22] <Sulla> What is your conclusion
[20:35:44] <boru> I don't agree with that.
[20:35:06] <Sulla> Historically a bunch of angsty millenials being counter-cultural to troll
[20:34:10] <Sulla> reeee
[20:33:57] <boru> 4chan is a parody website.
[20:33:00] <Sulla> 4chan is full of feds. Don't forget you are there forever. They come for the monitoring, stay for the trolling
[20:32:48] <boru> Never assume malice where incompetence is most likely.
[20:32:25] <Sulla> But their comments on tech and stuff are pretty good so I have doubted it
[20:32:21] <boru> IME, feds lack situational awareness, and stick out like a sore thumb on the 'Net cf. rootkit.com etc.
[20:32:01] <Sulla> I have been wondering whether or not DeathMonkey works for the DNC though. They seem to update their opinions based on what the latest DNC talking points are, at least since the 2016 election
[20:31:42] <boru> Azuma has very differing opinions to my own, but I don't think they're a fed either.
[20:30:51] <boru> As much as I think aristarchus is a bellend, I doubt they're a fed.
[20:29:07] <boru> Then again, there are close ties between French and israeli intelligence, so it's not so much of a surprise.
[20:29:06] <Sulla> They seem legit in their ideas
[20:28:58] <chromas> No freeze peach; only censor
[20:28:34] <chromas> Maybe Azuma and aristarchus are fedbots
[20:28:32] <Sulla> Because its wrong
[20:27:48] <boru> France too, actually.
[20:27:46] <chromas> Sulla: Why are you mentally-differently-abled shaming?
[20:27:36] <boru> Including some breadcrumbs back to private sector companies repsonsible for it, who were well know contractors for US and israeli goverment organisations.
[20:27:02] <chromas> I recall rumors of a company poisoning p2p filesharing networks with cp, but I never 'came across' any
[20:26:22] <chromas> Softpedia, Technowize, the Mirror, TechCrunch
[20:26:21] <boru> Back at the turn of the millenium, I was involved with some open research around circumventing 'Net censorship, and this was a common concern; vested parties poisoning the well with crap like child pornography or "extremist" websites to program people to vote against Internet privacy.
[20:25:52] <upstart> ^ 03Microsoft's Bing search engine reportedly had a child porn problem
[20:25:51] <chromas> https://www.businessinsider.com
[20:24:42] <Sulla> I dont understand why they have to keep pushing on normalizing this stuff
[20:24:15] <boru> That's messed up.
[20:24:10] <boru> Nonetheless, the intent is there.
[20:24:04] <Sulla> for now
[20:23:52] <chromas> well I have seen teengalleries/primejailbait photos pop into the results a lot, but it's nonnude so it's okay I guess
[20:23:23] <boru> Or some political group afiliated with google.
[20:23:14] <boru> Sounds like something google would do.
[20:22:57] <boru> Was that a legitimate claim, or was it the likes of google poisoning the well?
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[20:22:25] <chromas> supposedly it was too easy to end up with pictures of kids, and the search suggestions would sometimes steer you that way, was the claim
[20:22:15] <boru> How on Earth do people uncover that...
[20:21:56] <chromas> yeah
[20:21:46] <boru> CP as in child pornography?
[20:21:28] <chromas> and their video search is nice. can play most videos right from the results page
[20:20:59] <chromas> though it was like cp and stuff
[20:20:56] <boru> Yeah.
[20:20:55] <boru> Bing image search is most certainly better.
[20:20:48] <chromas> there were articles awhile back about how terrible bing is for not censoring search results enough
[20:20:41] <boru> Well, that's true. Google seem to have some sort of very politically motivated filtering in place.
[20:20:03] <chromas> also, bing's image search is better than google's
[20:19:25] <chromas> you get points for searching with bing, which can be redeemed for amazon or other goft codes
[20:19:03] <boru> Sweet chocolate christ.
[20:18:52] <chromas> bing points? real thing
[20:18:41] <boru> Is that actually a thing, or are you just going all out?
[20:18:16] <chromas> well if I can run edge on linux then I can get bonus bing points without windows
[20:17:49] <chromas> or wontfix
[20:17:36] <chromas> "Why would you want to do that? Feature deleted!"
[20:17:30] <boru> How dare you.
[20:17:16] <chromas> that sounds like opendesktop speak to me
[20:16:11] <boru> The only question I have is: why?
[20:14:01] <chromas> at least the beta would load enough to crash on soylentnews.org
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[20:13:40] <chromas> hm, the canary version won't even start
[20:09:32] <boru> JFC.
[20:09:21] <chromas> that reminds me. I haven't tried edge on linux in a few days
[20:09:01] * boru balks
[20:08:49] <chromas> the future is now, old man
[20:08:33] <boru> Is there an 8k now?
[20:08:20] <boru> You can't asign to 'wide'; it's an integer literal.
[20:08:16] <chromas> although that's old now. need to see my bells in 8k
[20:07:48] <chromas> wide = hd
[20:07:43] <boru> Is that your favourite part?
[20:07:30] <chromas> Nothin' wrong with bellends. those are the widest parts of the bell!
[20:07:14] <boru> Firefox is just getting worse and worse. I'm in dire need of a replacement.
[20:06:51] <chromas> I was just thinking about the old adage about firefox having all the features except a good text editor
[20:06:29] <boru> I wasn't being serious, you bellend.
[20:06:06] <chromas> Hah! Now who's the gui wuss? Should be using edit.com
[20:05:39] <boru> Real Men™ use notepad.exe
[20:04:29] <boru> I don't know. emacs is for infant children.
[20:04:00] <chromas> Are web browsers emacs from a different starting point?
[20:03:52] <boru> I'm in the whatever set; I use mutt.
[20:03:31] <chromas> or emacs or whatever
[20:03:19] <chromas> Better than pine. #fite me
[20:02:30] * boru scoffs
[20:00:30] <chromas> Kmail's a pretty good email client when it's not being retarded
[19:59:43] <chromas> I dunno. I get the free games and then don't play them
[19:59:22] <boru> Pft, who needs an epic games account since they canned UT4.
[19:59:00] <chromas> and my non-banned epic games account
[19:58:59] <boru> You could probably set the filter up with the MS API and then just download the directory.
[19:58:16] <chromas> it gets all the declined subs emails
[19:58:05] <chromas> oh I know. I use the ms account for the upstart bot
[19:57:25] <boru> They don't even follow their own standards.
[19:57:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Mission Readies Tiny Chopper for Red Planet Flight - http://sylnt.us - martians-close-down-2-airports-in-drone-scare
[19:57:07] <boru> select all unread -> delete
[19:57:06] <chromas> wait a minute. no
[19:57:02] <chromas> yes
[19:56:47] <boru> It can, but when have you ever known MS to follow standards?
[19:56:35] <chromas> I want the inbox to be empty
[19:56:21] <boru> I can't imagine anyone using hotmail for anything other than throwaway addys, so why do you care?
[19:56:10] <chromas> but being ms, they probably don't support it
[19:56:04] <chromas> I wonder if their imap interface supports that at all. I dunno much about imap, but it can have support for server-side filters right?
[19:55:29] <boru> You'd have to hook their API to do that, I'd imagine.
[19:54:57] <boru> Probably not. The 'spam' rules will be client side.
[19:54:35] <chromas> I wonder if moving spam to the spam folder in HoTMaiL using an imap client counts as marking it spam
[19:52:57] * boru silly.
[19:52:50] <boru> I've had enough whiskey to misread regexp.
[19:52:38] <boru> Oh, nevermind.
[19:52:28] <boru> I don't get it.
[19:52:20] <chromas> Looks good to me
[19:52:09] <boru> Work on your regexp, chromas.
[19:51:48] <boru> That would produce "Did yo5 .*$"
[19:51:41] <chromas> Weren't they the ones responsible for cmda2000?
[19:50:58] <chromas> boru: s/u//5
[19:50:07] <boru> Did you know that they set aside a part of their budget for antitrust lawsuits as a part of doing business anually.
[19:49:17] <boru> Their legal division is larger than their engineering division.
[19:48:41] <Bender> karma - qualcomm: -3
[19:48:40] <boru> qualcomm--
[19:48:38] <boru> I'll second that.
[19:48:16] <Bender> karma - qualcomm: -2
[19:48:16] <chromas> qualcomm--
[19:47:21] <boru> That said, what the world needs is open modem fw. With the likes of qualcomm and other morally bankrupt companies out there shipping backdoored fw, even with an open design, a CotS modem is flawed out of the box.
[19:38:38] <boru> SIP == Session Initiation Protocol
[19:38:18] <boru> HF == High Frequency (Radio frequency)
[19:37:54] <boru> POTS == Plain Old Telephone Service
[19:37:42] <boru> Iff ever I win the euromillions, I think I'll set out on designing some comms hw that's free of corporate scum like {google,apple,microsoft,}.
[19:37:05] <Sulla> Acronims that i dont know
[19:36:40] <boru> I'm sad about the death of POTS. I still talk to some bods at home prodominantly by HF, but I've been kitting out some less-tech-savvy relatives with SIP via a gateway I set up for them.
[19:36:37] <Sulla> privs are like 100 on ebay as well
[19:36:17] <Sulla> I caused some damage by hitting a spider on a wall with it flicked open, but was easily fixable. I broke a screen by dropping it onto ceremic dust from 2in, but i have also dropped it (countless times) 4-6ft into concrete with no issues
[19:35:02] <Sulla> if you like to flick it open aggressively you can cause damage over time to the spring because you can wear down the lock and it can disconnect
[19:34:16] <Sulla> I have had a ton of privs, and overall easily repairable
[18:56:38] <boru> Hmm, I'll check those out. Thanks man.
[18:50:31] <Sulla> boru you can still get the keyone, keytwo, or priv
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[18:26:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Deepfake' App Causes Fraud And Privacy Fears In China - http://sylnt.us - always-strong-on-peoples-rights
[18:22:26] <boru> Do they even make phones with those anymore?
[18:22:08] <boru> I do miss having a slide-out hw kb, though.
[18:21:45] <boru> Touchscreens annoy the shit out of me, as well. I've got a samsung note; the stylus and cursive handwriting input sure have made them a lot more bearable.
[18:15:54] <chromas> yennies
[16:56:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump's 15 Percent Tariff on Chinese Goods Kicks in - http://sylnt.us - start-counting-the-pennies,-er,-yen
[16:26:00] <Sulla> Teckla - should have used a blackberry, based superior keyboard
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[15:26:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Debate in Austria Over Enshrining use of Cash in the Constitution - http://sylnt.us - bills-have-serial-numbers-so-only-use-change
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[13:45:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Real-Time Maps Warn Hong Kong Protesters of Water Cannons and Riot Police - http://sylnt.us - cats-and-mice-and-maps-oh-my!
[13:36:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4946
[13:36:39] <Teckla> coffee++
[13:35:59] <Teckla> Purely my own incompetence. :\
[13:35:48] <Teckla> I find that it's hard for my stupid fingers to accurately expand comments on my smartphone keyboard. I keep mis-tapping.
[13:20:46] <Teckla> I was going to ask: does SN have a feature to automagically expand ALL comments (for all threads)?
[13:20:06] <Teckla> Grrr. Sorry folks. Smartphone keyboard.
[13:19:51] <Teckla> Mughal. Haha
[13:19:46] <Teckla> Weied
[12:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Squirrels Listen in to Birds' Conversations as Signal of Safety - http://sylnt.us - squirrel!
[11:46:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cannabis May Hold Promise to Treat PTSD but Evidence Lags Behind Use - http://sylnt.us
[11:04:38] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Good luck with your fishing!
[11:04:17] * exec cromulently straps a tumbleweed of key/value pairs on TheMightyBuzzard
[11:04:15] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:04:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4945
[11:04:06] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:52:02] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off to fish a shiny new river
[10:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> and also...
[10:51:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4944
[10:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:45:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Natural Ways of Cooling Cities - http://sylnt.us
[09:05:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Slack Plunges After Posting First Earnings Report Since Going Public - http://sylnt.us
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[08:17:55] <LCSulla> took a bit to find. hard to drunk type
[08:17:40] <LCSulla> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
[08:17:02] <chromas> I don't know that one
[08:15:28] <LCSulla> can i get a meetingadjorned.gif as well. the judge with the shotgun
[08:15:10] <LCSulla> sounds legit
[08:14:27] <chromas> we need a Mills Lane from Celebrity Deathmatch gif too
[08:14:08] <chromas> Good idea
[08:12:25] <LCSulla> ill allow it
[08:12:07] <LCSulla> animated gif mods?
[07:40:07] <chromas> like -0, jerkoff_hand_motion.gif
[07:39:52] <chromas> We need animated gif mods
[07:39:45] <chromas> Still reading the comments on that AK journal entry
[07:36:37] <chromas> and for the opposite, of course, racistlist
[07:36:19] <chromas> What's wrong with African Americanlist?
[07:36:05] <chromas> herpity derp
[07:35:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Allowlist, Not Whitelist. Blocklist, Not Blacklist. Microsoft Lops Off Offensive Words - http://sylnt.us - blacklisting-"blacklist"
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[07:12:23] <chromas> g'noight
[07:12:16] <LCSulla> well wife is beconing me so im off to bed. cya dude
[07:11:50] <LCSulla> dunno
[07:10:00] <chromas> Did irccloud have a burp?
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[07:07:07] <LCSulla> im okay with that
[07:06:56] <LCSulla> its hard to keep up unless that link just takes to person
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[07:06:48] <chromas> I dunno. What if there are two entries by the same person? Two links to the same page
[07:06:42] <LCSulla> people like takyon post so many JEs
[07:06:33] <chromas> Yeah. I just clicked his latest entry. I didn't read it though. Wall of text. Straight to the comments
[07:06:29] <LCSulla> annoying but sometimes useful
[07:06:22] <LCSulla> isnt that a feature not a bug?
[07:06:16] <LCSulla> well it goes to the persons list of entries
[07:05:27] <chromas> I should make a bug request
[07:05:05] <chromas> Have you ever noticed that clicking on a journal entry in the sidebar doesn't actually go to the entry? Kinda gay
[07:04:31] <LCSulla> ak is athanasiuskirsher
[07:03:52] <LCSulla> oh damn maybe i am
[07:01:16] <chromas> Well, regular Sulla. I guess you could be an imposter
[07:00:36] * chromas doesn't remember who that is
[07:00:29] <chromas> Your comment from awhile back mentions AK
[06:58:24] <LCSulla> wasnt it arik?
[06:57:53] <LCSulla> seriously though. who was it that posted the drunk posting je
[06:37:13] <LCSulla> my facorite translation of the republic has "your a shiester socrates"
[06:36:00] <LCSulla> oi where is your sn irc liocense
[06:35:31] <LCSulla> socrates was a shiester who only argued to eat his hosts food
[06:35:27] <chromas> I bet they have more tv loicense dodgers though
[06:35:16] <LCSulla> maybe we just didnt have good so he left
[06:35:11] <chromas> They're probably better at stabbings and stuff
[06:34:52] <LCSulla> maybe is just propaganda
[06:34:45] <LCSulla> i keep seeing articles/posts about how the EU is better than the US
[06:31:55] <chromas> Seems like Greece doesn't have very good internet tonight
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[06:30:10] <LCSulla> like that time you said something to your dad that might have hurt his feelings, so you have to repress it forever
[06:29:49] <LCSulla> i spend a lot of time trying to repress/delete memories, so not concerned
[06:29:05] <upstart> ^ 03Fighting words - Wikipedia
[06:29:04] <LCSulla> https://en.m.wikipedia.org
[06:28:38] <chromas> Watch out for deleted memories too. You know what happens if your brain tries to dereference a null memory pointer?
[06:28:28] <LCSulla> thems fightin words
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[06:27:54] <chromas> Watch yose'f. Soon you might discover you been earased as well
[06:27:11] <LCSulla> endless censorship
[06:27:04] <LCSulla> but its gone?
[06:27:00] <LCSulla> i think im finally ready to post in arik's drunk posting JE
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[06:26:03] <LCSulla> ha thats a joke because i know they know that i know so my knowledge is safe
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[06:24:41] <chromas> They know you know they know you know
[06:24:35] <chromas> The feds are coming for you
[06:24:14] <LCSulla> why is it not in the que
[06:24:10] <LCSulla> i submitted an article on the US death glider being sighted over k falls
[06:23:55] <LCSulla> who is censoring me
[06:23:46] <LCSulla> okay
[06:23:22] <SoyCow8299> aristarrchus
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[05:00:54] <LCSulla> rage
[05:00:51] <LCSulla> took out half the wall, then my sawzall failed
[05:00:39] <LCSulla> the other day it was really hot so i decided enough was enough
[05:00:21] <LCSulla> yeah
[04:54:17] <chromas> Was the wall cockblocking the AC?
[04:48:46] <LCSulla> bought a new sawzall and finished ripping out my wall. now i can relax, drink, watch the tv, AND enjoy air conditioning
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[04:16:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - President Trump Tweets Picture of Sensitive Satellite Photo of Iranian Launch Site - http://sylnt.us - security-is-NOT-revealing-capabilities-of-secret-spy-sats
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[03:41:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, standard pot reaction unless you're joe rogan. i'd kinda hate to see him if he were any more motivated.
[02:36:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Experts Propose Having AI Control Nuclear Weapons - http://sylnt.us - stop-the-world-I-want-to-get-off
[02:06:49] <AzumaHazuki> ...to be fair, they were the best motherloving potato chips i'd ever had, but this doesn't seem like a practical or healthy treatment
[02:06:14] <AzumaHazuki> i would be willing to give this a try. my one experience with marijuana made me extremely unmotivated, and also led me to consume about 800kcal of potato chips at one sitting
[01:17:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cannabis May Hold Promise To Treat PTSD But Evidence Lags Behind Use - http://sylnt.us
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[00:47:44] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Why Nazis are So Afraid of These Clowns" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:47:41] <AzumaHazuki> :) looks like the one thing ideologues can't stand is mockery. in this case, getting literally clowned on
[00:47:22] <upstart> Submitting "Why Nazis are so afraid of these clowns"...
[00:47:20] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://wagingnonviolence.org from the ideologues-fear-mockery dept
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