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[00:25:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Eight People Indicted For Running 'Two Of The Largest' Illegal Streaming Services - http://sylnt.us - why-have-one-cheap-service-with-everything-when-you-could-have-117?
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[00:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, no parliament for you
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[01:46:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Harness Bacteria To Create 'Living' Liquid Crystals - http://sylnt.us
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[02:27:09] <Sulla> Anyone want to do a cigar exchange?
[03:26:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Wants exFAT in Linux Kernel, Opens File System Specs - http://sylnt.us - ten-years-too-late
[03:39:05] <chromas> Sulla: Ask the Clintons ;)
[03:39:31] * chromas has all the high quality jokes
[03:39:37] <Sulla> i dont want any of clintons cigars, i have an idea where they have been marinating, i prefer mine in whisky
[03:40:17] <Sulla> want a cigar or two chromas?
[03:40:41] <chromas> I don't smoke
[03:40:47] <Sulla> wew
[03:40:52] <Sulla> cigar++
[03:40:52] <Bender> karma - cigar: 65
[03:41:21] <chromas> Don't coffee either. That's why I can't perl
[03:41:24] <Sulla> want to start? i can send a k222 which sells in most states for 30+
[03:42:13] <Sulla> not doing coffee is good though, i avoid caffeine
[03:42:39] <chromas> Nah, thanks though
[03:43:12] <chromas> I wonder if we have cigars around here
[03:43:33] <Sulla> most places tax is too high
[03:43:44] <chromas> The city council masturbates to wine. Not sure if that goes with cigars though
[03:44:24] <chromas> (so we have lots o' wineries)
[03:45:17] <Sulla> wine is good though
[03:45:23] <Sulla> i veen drinkin it watered down
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[04:10:13] <chromas> I'm consulting Yahoo! Answers to find out why parmesan cheese smells like puke
[04:10:19] <chromas> "You may have gotten a batch in which someone actually vomited into. This happens more often than you might think. Unfortunately, you might now have a serious disease."
[04:13:49] <Sulla> what
[04:14:23] <Sulla> https://m.youtube.com
[04:14:24] <upstart> ^ 03How is babby formed? ( https://www.youtube.com )
[04:14:29] <Sulla> best yahoo answer
[04:20:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, why does your puke smell like feet?
[04:20:40] <chromas> What. Why do your feet smell like parmesan cheese?
[04:20:51] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[04:20:51] <Bender> Added quote 907
[04:22:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> because dryer sheets are for pussies
[04:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheese works just as good and doesn't leave your clothes smelling like you have a huge anus
[04:44:41] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[04:44:41] <Bender> Added quote 908
[05:28:00] <Sulla> well, ive spent hours listening to pro-hongkong propaganda
[05:28:17] <Sulla> been a very interesting delve
[06:02:21] <chromas> Are you ready to revolt?
[06:25:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Superconductivity Confirmed in a Nickel Oxide - http://sylnt.us - potentially-profitable-due-to-nickel-down-economics
[06:35:24] <Sulla> if im sure it wasnt a crime id send guns to hk
[06:35:37] <Sulla> gotta fight for freedom and all that
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[08:07:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Reportedly Receives 130-Plus Requests For Huawei Licenses - http://sylnt.us - sales
[09:18:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> chromas: it was "wow, you've re-invented radar, you enormous gobshites!"
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[09:37:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fixing A Cheap UPS Hat For Your Raspberry Pi With A Tiny Daemon - http://sylnt.us - hat-tip
[11:07:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Douglas Adams Was Right – Knowledge Without Understanding is Meaningless - http://sylnt.us
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[12:38:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This 600-Unit Apartment Complex in Utah is a Virtual Power Plant - http://sylnt.us
[12:45:39] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:45:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4936
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[12:54:45] <Bytram> #g gold kilobar
[12:54:46] <MrPlow> https://www.goldcore.com - "Gold Bullion Bar 1 Kilo for delivery or ultra-secure storage in London, Zurich. GoldCore are worldwide specialists in the provision of silver & gold."
[12:55:41] <Bytram> afk laundry
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[14:05:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Forgery Crisis is Quietly Roiling the World's Gold Industry - http://sylnt.us - need-more-blockchain
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[15:45:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why We Should Teach Kids to Call the Robot ‘It’ - http://sylnt.us - and-don't-believe-promises-of-cake
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[16:14:06] <Sulla> i think it would be nice to have a way to undo the flamebait moderation. a post might not be insightful or interesting, but it still doesnt deserve to be flamebait
[16:20:18] <RandomFactor__> Flamebait++
[16:20:18] <Bender> karma - flamebait: 1
[16:21:20] <Bytram> Sulla: Then, umm, why not just moderate it as "Insightful" or "Interesting"?
[16:21:34] <Bytram> ... or "Informative"
[16:22:13] <Bytram> It is what it *is*
[16:24:05] <Bytram> break time
[16:24:08] <Bytram> \/quit
[16:25:22] <Sulla> that is what i do, but feels weird making a post thats not one of the three positive mods say one of those three things
[16:25:31] <Sulla> its nothing special, but it doesnt look to me to be a flame
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[17:26:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Police Chase Ends in Flames with $200k BMW Highway Patrol car Igniting in Long Grass - http://sylnt.us - HOT-pursuit
[17:28:08] <Sulla> 200k patrol car is horseshit
[17:33:06] <Sulla> patrol vehicles have a 5 year replacement cycle do to the wear on the engine from so many hours of idling. Regardless of brand, this wear will be present. 200k is good for about six fully upfitted patrol cars based on my purchase agreements
[17:39:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah but do they provide the assigned officer with DRIVING EXCITEMENT?
[17:42:32] <Sulla> modern impalas arent bad
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[17:57:12] <Bytram> Sulla: read the article... the $200k is NOT just for the car; also includes all the electronics such as ALPR, front and back "dash cams", laptop, comms, etc.
[18:00:08] <Sulla> For a comparible impala similarly upfitted you might reach 45k for comparible performance, cheaper maint, and same service life
[18:00:27] <Sulla> might because most often stays at 30-35
[18:00:46] <Sulla> this tells me their procurement department is corrupt, inept, or both
[18:01:07] <Bytram> is also a Mercedes and a Diesel
[18:01:25] <Sulla> yes, a huge waste of money and corruption
[18:02:12] <Sulla> 30k impala will perform just as good. 300 dollar top light, 400 push bumper, radio/laptop/sat for 1k, etc etc
[18:02:15] <Bytram> What a load of "garbage" pseudo HTML is loaded into each Yahoo! story.
[18:02:23] <janrinok> Mercedes or BMW? Is the title wrong?
[18:02:45] <Bytram> oh, my bad. was going from my admittedly exhausted memory.
[18:02:52] <Bytram> nograb
[18:03:05] <Sulla> cost/year on the bmw is 40k+maint, impala is 9k/year+maint MAX
[18:03:08] * janrinok doesn't have a clue about cars - could be a jeep for all I know
[18:03:15] <Bytram> exhausted as in *tired*, not an entire lack of capability!
[18:03:27] <Sulla> im my city's head asset guy
[18:03:33] <Sulla> so >triggered
[18:03:34] <Bytram> kewel
[18:03:45] <Bytram> top speed? handling?
[18:04:11] <Bytram> =g Chevy Impala top speed
[18:04:12] <upstart> https://www.topspeed.com - Chevrolet Impala: Latest News, Reviews, Specifications, Prices ...
[18:04:53] <Bytram> Top Speed:
[18:04:53] <Bytram> 155 mph
[18:05:25] <Bytram> Oh, wait. that is talking about model years 2014-2015
[18:05:28] <Sulla> 50ish less hp in the bmw
[18:05:52] <Sulla> top speed on bmw is 155 limited
[18:06:01] <Sulla> so i imagine impala is put at the same
[18:06:23] <Bytram> yeah, but how is the coefficient of drag compared between 'em
[18:06:32] <Bytram> and swept surface area
[18:06:40] <Sulla> not enough to make a 30k/year difference to the city
[18:06:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> anybody know PHP well enough to know if $item->channel and $item->{'channel'} are effectively interchangeable?
[18:07:02] <Bytram> D = 1/2 * (rho) * U^2 * S * Cd
[18:07:06] <Bytram> no eyed ear
[18:07:49] <Sulla> there is something weird here
[18:07:59] <Sulla> google telling me that bmw starts at 50k
[18:08:12] <Sulla> am i getting confused by AUD
[18:08:33] <Sulla> 50k usd is 74k aud
[18:09:26] <Bytram> I'll grant you that I thought the $200K (even if it is $AUD) did strike me as being on the high side.
[18:09:41] * Bytram wanders off to prepare a bite to eat
[18:10:07] <Sulla> yeah i gotta get back to work too
[18:10:38] * janrinok has just made two completely home-made pizzas - base, toppings etc. We enjoyed them!
[18:10:42] <Bytram> Nice chatting with ya! have a good rest-of-your-day!
[18:10:54] <janrinok> bye Sulla
[18:10:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> if it's a "patrol car" it would presumably have a barrier between front and rear seats and modified rear sets that allow the officers to put someone in handcuffs in the back, yeah?
[18:10:57] <Bytram> Did you grow the wheat, too?!!!!
[18:11:07] <janrinok> almost...
[18:11:24] <Bytram> *chuckles*
[18:11:48] <janrinok> its grown and milled locally (<50km)
[18:12:07] <Bytram> afk biab ... food search commences and maybe a nap after that; has been a long, busy stretch at work and outside activities
[18:12:13] <Bytram> very nice
[18:12:21] <janrinok> rest well
[18:13:15] <Sulla> andytheabsurd yeah but its not spendy
[18:13:37] <Sulla> probably not going anywhere, so many processes taking forever to load today
[18:16:17] <chromas> Patrol cars should be hybrids so they don't have to idle
[18:17:38] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[18:17:39] <upstart> ^ 03GONTI - KŁUSOWNICTWO PO SZCZECIŃSKU
[18:18:01] <janrinok> ... I was just about to say that
[18:18:25] <Sulla> i think that might not work in practice
[18:18:41] <Sulla> point is to have combustion engine warmed up at all times
[18:19:07] <Sulla> so you can, in an emergency, run out of meeting and run car at 100mph without engine damage
[18:19:25] <Sulla> is stupid in my opinion on a car with a 5yr replace cycle
[18:24:11] <janrinok> Why on earth am I watching a youtube video about cars being towed?
[18:24:44] <chromas> They're cheating
[18:24:53] <janrinok> by doing what?
[18:25:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> because MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE wasn't available on YouTube?
[18:25:25] <chromas> Putting up Xs on the signs to make them "no parking" zones right before towing
[18:25:42] <chromas> poland--
[18:25:42] <Bender> karma - poland: -1
[18:25:59] <janrinok> but if the time is outside the legal parking times, then they have every right to tow them.
[18:26:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> at least they're making an attempt at seeming like it's a legal tow
[18:27:32] <janrinok> we've got areas here in France where car parks are unusable because of local market days. They are sign posted as no parking between x and y on one specific day per week. If your car is there, its towed.
[18:27:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> there's scummy tow companies in the US that will tow cars out of apartment buildings' lots even if they haven't got an agreement with the building's management.
[18:28:12] <janrinok> Its not as if there is no warning.
[18:28:28] <janrinok> OK, in the states maybe it is different
[18:29:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> janrinok: mostly in the US it works the same way - you'll only get towed if you've left your car somewhere it shouldn't be. But there's always a handful of jackasses who have to ruin it for everyone.
[18:30:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> okay time to go for a walk so I haven't sat at a desk ALL day long.
[18:30:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I missed my morning walk this morning.)
[18:31:42] <janrinok> I suppose that is true everywhere. But, on the other side, a few months ago we were having blockades by the yellow jackets. After a few weeks of roads being blocked the police said move by x o'clock or we will move your. And they did - with fork lift trucks! Cars were a right mess after that, and so they should have been. They were told to move and they didn't.
[18:32:16] <janrinok> Nobody argued after that though...
[18:32:48] <chromas> Poor bees
[18:33:47] <Bytram> #weather tampa
[18:33:48] <MrPlow> 247 Kennedy Blvd, Tampa, FL 33602, USA - Today: "Humid and partly cloudy throughout the day." 93/75F, Humidity: 77%, Precip: 25%, Wind ~6mph. Fri: "Rain and humid throughout the day." 88/75F, Humidity: 86%, Precip: 91%, Wind ~9mph. Sat: "Possible light rain in the evening and overnight." 90/75F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 72%, Wind ~10mph.
[18:33:55] <Bytram> #weather St augustine
[18:33:57] <MrPlow> Charles Bridge, 116 65 Prague, Czechia - Today: "Possible light rain in the evening and overnight." 87/67F, Humidity: 66%, Precip: 60%, Wind ~5mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 85/65F, Humidity: 71%, Precip: 29%, Wind ~2mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 87/67F, Humidity: 68%, Precip: 5%, Wind ~5mph.
[18:34:02] <Bytram> lol
[18:34:03] <janrinok> #weather paimpol
[18:34:05] <MrPlow> 1 r Sylvain Bertho, 22500 Paimpol, France - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 70/53F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 5%, Wind ~5mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 72/54F, Humidity: 74%, Precip: 8%, Wind ~4mph. Sat: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 71/55F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 8%, Wind ~10mph.
[18:34:13] <Bytram> #weather Saint augustine, Florida
[18:34:15] <MrPlow> Scarlett O'Hara's, Hypolita St, St. Augustine, FL 32084, USA - Today: "Humid and partly cloudy throughout the day." 87/78F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 18%, Wind ~7mph. Fri: "Light rain and humid throughout the day." 86/79F, Humidity: 81%, Precip: 93%, Wind ~12mph. Sat: "Possible drizzle in the afternoon." 87/79F, Humidity: 81%, Precip: 73%, Wind ~10mph.
[18:35:03] <janrinok> crap - its all in degrees F. Only one country does that!
[18:35:15] <chromas> Florida?
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[18:35:26] <Bytram> =weather jacksonville
[18:35:29] <chromas> oh, country. California?
[18:35:44] <upstart> Not implemented yet
[18:35:47] <janrinok> lol
[18:35:47] <Bytram> yep, that would be TLD .ca, right?
[18:35:57] <Bytram> ;)
[18:36:27] <janrinok> what, the canucks do it too?
[18:36:37] <janrinok> thought they had more sense
[18:36:52] <Bytram> nah, they use C, AFAIK
[18:37:31] <chromas> I thought everyone was switching from C to Rust
[18:37:48] <janrinok> to D I thought - damn I'm too late again
[18:38:30] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[18:38:31] <upstart> ^ 03Surfing the 100ft swell at Nazare
[18:39:44] <janrinok> Bytram, what are you cooking?
[18:40:03] <Bytram> peanut butter samwich -- day off and I'm lazy atm
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[18:40:17] <janrinok> lol - don't overcook it
[18:40:38] <Bytram> Too late!!!
[18:41:01] <janrinok> dunk it in jelly ....
[18:41:46] <Bytram> Again too late! Now I'm in a jam!
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[18:42:46] <AzumaHazuki> bweh. going to have to just get Waddell table legs and top plates. this flimsy 1x4 stuff isn't cutting it
[18:44:21] <Bytram> hmmm, pick up a rickety table at Goodwill and repurpose the legs for your project?
[18:45:34] <Sulla> craigslist free section
[18:45:45] <AzumaHazuki> this house (well, i live in 1/4 of it because hurr) is too small to get things up it. waddell stuff is cheap
[18:45:49] <Bytram> Sulla++ ^^^
[18:45:49] <Bender> karma - sulla: 14
[18:45:49] <Sulla> or, just get some 4x4
[18:45:58] <AzumaHazuki> no big deal, i suspected something like this was going to happen
[18:46:11] <AzumaHazuki> was good learning experience
[18:46:34] <Bytram> experience++
[18:46:35] <Bender> karma - experience: 1
[18:46:37] <Bytram> experience++
[18:46:38] <Bender> karma - experience: 2
[18:46:44] <janrinok> what's your plan B?
[18:47:43] <AzumaHazuki> this is plan B. plan a was 1x4s of s4s pine screwed into a reinforced rectangle for each leg
[18:48:20] <AzumaHazuki> unfortunately, due to lack of tools and flat surfaces, what i got wasn't totally square. not wobbly, but kind of weak. ...aaand attaching it almost blew through the wood
[18:49:49] <Bytram> attitude++
[18:49:49] <Bender> karma - attitude: 1
[18:49:50] <janrinok> can you not use a triangular bracing piece?
[18:50:06] <Bytram> I commend you for making the effort, and looking at it as a learning eperience
[18:50:12] <janrinok> ... but that might spoil the aesthetics though
[18:50:14] <Bytram> *experience
[18:50:52] <janrinok> I'm sure you've thought through the options.
[18:51:07] <AzumaHazuki> i possibly could? but truth be told i'm tired of no furniture and kind of like the idea that there are pre-made table legs
[18:51:28] <AzumaHazuki> wish i had, like a garage full of woodworking stuff
[18:52:07] <Sulla> just use a 4x4 and never doubt stability
[18:53:16] <AzumaHazuki> how do you attack those from below to a flat panel? the idea occurred to me, but...
[18:53:53] <Sulla> can you dra what you built and imigr it or something
[18:54:54] <Bytram> 3/4 x 3/4 butted against the table top and around the top of the leg; alternate screws into the let and into the table top
[18:55:05] <AzumaHazuki> eh, it's just a flat panel stained with a border of black paint at this point. i had to toss the 1x4s
[18:55:12] <AzumaHazuki> i'll go get the waddell bits
[18:55:32] <Bytram> coulda ripped the 1x4's to use as side strips I described above.
[18:55:43] <Bytram> how long did you want the table legs to be?
[18:56:06] <Sulla> you can drill down through a flat panel, with three screws would be find, use the 1x4 you no longer need as braces between the legs
[18:58:58] <Bytram> alternatively, take a look at some of these legs and notice how several of them have what appear to be bolts sticking out of the top? https://www.homedepot.com
[18:59:00] <upstart> ^ 03Table Leg - Furniture Accessories & Replacement Parts - Furniture - The Home Depot
[18:59:51] <Bytram> there is a "receiving plate" (not sure of the correct term) which is mounted to the tabletop with 4 screws on the corners and in the center has a threaded hole to receive the threads on the table leg
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[19:01:21] <janrinok> I think she dashed of to the Home Depot ....
[19:01:28] <janrinok> *off
[19:01:55] <janrinok> I've got to go too - cu2morrow
[19:01:58] <Bytram> Maybe she was trying to get the Lowe-down on what we were talking about
[19:02:08] <janrinok> brace yourself
[19:02:29] <Bytram> That was so bad it was good!
[19:02:35] <janrinok> its not screwed up yet
[19:02:37] * Bytram GOLs
[19:02:45] <Bytram> Groans Out Loud
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[19:02:53] <Sulla_> https://ibb.co
[19:02:54] <upstart> ^ 03example
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[19:03:10] <Sulla> 4x4 most best
[19:04:10] <janrinok> I was thinking of key the top of the 4x4 with a 3x3 notch and attaching from the side and the top. If the top is not possible/desireable, then brace internally
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[19:04:29] <janrinok> bye cosurgi
[19:04:33] <janrinok> bye cosurgi
[19:04:42] <janrinok> cheers guys - gtg
[19:04:47] <Sulla> cya
[19:04:50] <Bytram> laters
[19:05:19] <Bytram> sounds like plan... if I don't get to my nap now, I never will.
[19:05:38] <Sulla> get to it
[19:06:28] <Bytram> Nice plan! But I, personally, would prefer to have no screw holes coming in through the table top.
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[19:08:12] <Bytram> with the table inverted (tabletop resting on the floor and legs up in the air), I'd prefer to put something like a 1x1 along the edge where the 4x4 meets the table top, and then screw the 1x1 to the table leg (from the size) and the tabletop (from the 'bottom')
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[19:34:08] <Sulla> yeah, that would look more professional
[19:37:52] <Bytram> even better, appearance-wise, would be to take the 1x1 strip with and rip down the middle with a 45 degree angle, so would end up with a right equilateral triangle for a cross-section. Put the right angled sides against the leg and the tabletop and with the hypotenuse facing out.
[19:38:16] <Bytram> actually pretty much any molding would work, even a half round or whatever.
[19:38:41] <Bytram> then again, except for a nosy neighbor or a 4-year-old... who's gonna see it?
[19:38:43] <Bytram> =)
[19:39:05] <Bytram> any weigh, is really time for my nap. laters taters!
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[21:39:30] <AzumaHazuki> waddell legs and top plates work well. i think i'm going to just use these for quick-n-dirty builds. finally have a desk. finally.
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[21:42:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Shitposting will commence in T-minus 3 hours
[21:42:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Just gotta step out to the local watering hole for some shitpost juice.
[21:43:40] <Sulla> why not drink at home?
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[22:10:02] <chromas> =g waddell
[22:10:02] <upstart> https://www.waddell.com - Waddell & Reed | Taking Financial Planning Personally
[22:16:47] <AzumaHazuki> when does Eth *not* shitpost?
[22:17:19] <AzumaHazuki> he's committed the cardinal sin of the drug dealer: gettng high on your own supply. he now wholeheartedly believes the shit he spews
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