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[01:15:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spectre Flaws In Today's Computer Chips Can Be Exploited To Hide, Run Stealthy Malware - http://sylnt.us - <!--stealth-code-->
[01:17:06] <AzumaHazuki> ...jesus
[01:17:31] <AzumaHazuki> this is, like, the computer security equivalent of growing up and realizing your entire family was bugfuck nuts
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[02:44:14] <SoyCow2204> https://socialnewsdaily.com - the dummies use in car crush tests are men and the women need to sit closer to the dashboard
[02:44:14] <upstart> ^ 03The Disturbing (and Sexist) Reason Women Are More Likely to Die in a Car Crash Than Men
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[02:46:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FedEx to Test Same-Day Deliveries Using Autonomous Robots, Starting in Memphis - http://sylnt.us - what's-the-carbon-footprint?
[02:52:53] <chromas> ooh, they even mentioned the sexist air conditioners
[02:54:03] <chromas> I wonder how cars would need to be different to accommodate the womens. Raised seats? Arm extensions?
[03:33:51] <AzumaHazuki> you seem to get pretty triggered whenever anything to do with people without a Y chromosome shows up
[03:34:59] <chromas> Oh, I wasn't aware SoyCow2204 identified as a female.
[03:35:31] <AzumaHazuki> <+chromas> I wonder how cars would need to be different to accommodate the womens. Raised seats? Arm extensions
[03:35:48] <AzumaHazuki> and of course she does, she's a COW. if that were a man it'd be SoyBull or something
[03:36:01] <chromas> If that's being triggered, I must be new to the internet
[03:36:39] <AzumaHazuki> i've just noticed a pattern over the last several days, is all :)
[03:37:13] <chromas> Good point.
[03:37:13] * chromas tries to milk the puns
[03:40:15] * chromas can't think of any puns right now
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[04:27:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Texas Lawmaker not Worried about Measles because of ‘Antibiotics' - http://sylnt.us - Brawndo-Has-What-Plants-Crave
[04:28:32] <AzumaHazuki> that was gonna be either texas or florida, yeah
[04:29:10] <AzumaHazuki> and of course, OF FUCKING COURSE, it's an (R)
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[05:57:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Migrating Blue Whales Rely On Memory More Than Environmental Cues To Find Prey - http://sylnt.us - big-memory
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[06:45:29] <AzumaHazuki> bloody Charter...
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[06:55:09] <chromas> I also have Charter. Check if you have ipv6 enabled. That always gives me crap after a few days and the modem needs rebooted
[06:56:14] <AzumaHazuki> this ISP has gone pants-on-head stupid on me...happens now and then
[06:57:04] <chromas> They did merge with Time Warner awhile back
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[07:25:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World's Biggest Radio Telescope Is Preparing To Explore The Farthest Reaches Of Space - http://sylnt.us
[07:46:58] <chromas> https://www.engadget.com
[07:46:59] <upstart> ^ 03MGM is somehow making a live-action movie about the View-Master
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[08:56:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Rewind: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Back Into Coal - http://sylnt.us - don't-dig-it-up-again
[10:25:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Phone-Makers Bringing Buttons Back - http://sylnt.us - pushing-your-buttons
[11:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:53:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4625
[11:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:57:11] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 692
[12:05:56] <FatPhil> ~gay TheMightyBuzzard
[12:06:01] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:06:03] * exec seriously heaps some stock footage of hair on TheMightyBuzzard
[12:06:39] * FatPhil reconsiders replacing the batteries in his keyboard, if it can come up with dropped characters like that!
[12:07:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create a 'Universal Entangler' for New Quantum Tech - http://sylnt.us - weaving-a-tangled-skein
[12:08:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[12:08:19] * exec erratically injects a pit of stale crackers into FatPhil
[12:09:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that was some quality typoing there. as is totally expected from a sn ed.
[12:15:08] <FatPhil> :D
[12:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh. really not looking forward to digging a little under two hundred feet of ditch around the church (for a french drain) today.
[12:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> be ecstatic to have it done but it's gonna be hard work even with a backhoe doing most of the digging.
[12:39:26] <FatPhil> don't cut any internet cables!
[12:44:44] <FatPhil> n.w. http://www.youtube.com
[12:44:46] <upstart> ^ 03The late and great Bill Hicks on "Marketing" ( https://www.youtube.com )
[13:15:36] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:15:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4626
[13:15:44] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[13:15:46] * exec abnormally lobs $container of goodly things like rainbows and unicorns and good wishes and the like at TheMightyBuzzard
[13:15:48] <Bytram> ~gday FatPhil
[13:15:50] * exec figuratively mixes an RB Tree of cheeseburgers with FatPhil
[13:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[13:16:04] * exec amazingly combines a biodome of adhesive medical strips with Bytram
[13:16:11] <Bytram> you won
[13:16:12] <FatPhil> ~gday Bytram
[13:16:14] * exec transphobically crams a wallet of trauma into Bytram
[13:16:19] <FatPhil> sorry
[13:16:26] <FatPhil> thanks for the cheeseburgers!
[13:16:33] <Bytram> but, do tell me, do unicorns... fart? And, if they do, how do they smell?
[13:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you're a small child, yes. they lurve them some bandaids.
[13:16:42] <Bytram> lol
[13:16:46] <Bytram> tru dat
[13:17:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not sure but i have it on good authority from a 12 year old girl that they poop cupcakes.
[13:17:27] <Bytram> Oh shit! oh? wait....
[13:18:19] <Bytram> we had a story about some critter pooping bricks a while back.... maybe they were unicorns in costume?
[13:18:45] <Bytram> #g site:soylentnews.org poop bricks
[13:18:46] <MrPlow> https://soylentnews.org - "May 8, 2018 ... Matt Damon's poop probably wouldn't have been strong enough to make the red soil habitable for first generation potato roots. up to 90% of ..."
[13:18:54] <Bytram> #g site:soylentnews.org shit bricks
[13:18:54] <MrPlow> https://soylentnews.org - "Aug 20, 2018 ... It still won't be fit for purpose if every US carrier shit bricks and fixed their user authentication as well. The are many flaws in SS7 which can only ..."
[13:18:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> square poop
[13:19:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> or cubes
[13:19:05] <Bytram> #g site:soylentnews.org square poop
[13:19:06] <MrPlow> https://soylentnews.org - "Dec 18, 2018 ... Feces is the obvious option, but it is dominated by DNA from other ..... we then performed an association test and missingness chi-square test to ..."
[13:19:16] <FatPhil> unicorns farts *are* rainbows
[13:19:38] * Bytram rummages around for a prism to put the colors back together
[13:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, i think you're right. i remember her saying something like that.
[13:21:13] <Bytram> so... cupcakes with rainbow sprinkles?
[13:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> sound logic
[13:22:29] <Bytram> got me a new UPS a month or so ago... just discovered one of the display modes is how many watts it is putting out through its outlets
[13:22:48] <Bytram> my old 24" 1920x1200 monitor draws 100W
[13:23:12] <Bytram> my new 43" TV that I am using as a monitor draws... 43W
[13:23:29] <FatPhil> I bought an amperage-showing mains socket adapter so I could sniff my household usage a few years back.
[13:23:39] <Bytram> and my lappy draws only about 25W
[13:24:32] <FatPhil> That's one of the things that helped persuade me that I should be aiming fanless. 10W should be enough CPU for anyone!
[13:25:01] * Bytram remembers the old mainframes and minis he used to work on and boggles
[13:25:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> Can modern Excel handle 344000 rows in a single sheet? Or does it still have the annoying 65535 row limit?
[13:25:52] <Bytram> #g excel maximum number of rows
[13:25:53] <MrPlow> https://support.office.com - "In Excel 2010, the maximum worksheet size is 1048576 rows by 16384 columns. In this article ... Total number of rows and columns on a worksheet. 1,048,576 ..."
[13:26:15] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: ^^^
[13:26:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> nice....hopefully it's okay with converting a CSV file that big, too. This is going to be one LOOOOOONG file.
[13:27:21] <Bytram> there's prolly a converter somewhere out there that would go direct from CSV to .xls (or watever extension they use now)
[13:27:44] <Bytram> before you convert it, though, best make sure it is valid csv -- many different standards
[13:28:07] <Bytram> how many rows/columns?
[13:28:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah... I'm writing data from a Python script, so chances of me having screwed it up are high.
[13:29:14] <Bytram> how do you escape quote chars? that's usually the big bug-a-boo. that, and commas.
[13:29:57] <Bytram> make a test spreadsheet in excel with text and numbers in the first few rows and then try quotes and commas in different subsequent rows to see how exc el handles them
[13:38:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Disney May Be Trying to Buy More of Hulu From AT&T's WarnerMedia - http://sylnt.us - do-they-get-a-set-of-ears
[13:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake AndyTheAbsurd
[13:41:57] * MrPlow smakes AndyTheAbsurd upside the head with a jihad
[13:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> why would you use a spreadsheet if you're already programming in python? using a db and handling calculations in python makes much more sense. you get a broader range of options and you only have to include those of them that are useful.
[13:48:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Bunch of Mobile World Congress 2019 Stories - http://sylnt.us - When-are-they-going-to-hold-one-in-Mobile-AL?
[13:50:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh. i don't wanna go do lots of hard physical work.
[13:52:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: You gots a backhoe... doesn't that pretty much take care of it? What would be left to do by hand?
[13:53:01] * Bytram dug out a bulkhead, by hand, one summer during his teen years. Last 12-18" was solid blue clay.
[13:53:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of fiddly bits that have to be dug by hand. not large bits but they don't have to be backhoe large to be shovel large.
[13:53:30] <Bytram> dig bigger deeper trench and back fill with sand?
[13:54:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't help around the gas meter or the inside corners on the bit where part of a wall sticks out further than the rest.
[13:54:34] <Bytram> ahh, got it.
[13:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of it'll be backhoe but enough will be shovel that i'll be tired as hell this evening.
[13:55:23] <Bytram> Now, remember how much of a challenge it would have been for ya 10-15 years ago... compared to now... and then imagine when you are 10-15 years older and things work even less well.
[13:55:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[13:55:57] <Bytram> things don't mend so quick, or even at all, as one gets older
[13:56:28] <Bytram> what worked for health insurance and hospital bills when I was younger (practically nil) is no longer the case as I get older.
[13:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> preachin to the choir. i got several joints in active revolt on a regular basis.
[13:56:59] <Bytram> ouch
[13:57:12] <Bytram> same here
[13:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> shoulder, both knees, hips, wrists, occasionally an elbow
[13:57:36] * Bytram might or might not be doing physical therapy to help with some shoulder problems
[13:57:58] * Bytram notes his calces are generally not happy, too.
[13:58:04] <Bytram> *calves
[13:58:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just live with the pain. it ain't worth spending money on if it's not keeping me from paying work or fishing.
[13:59:22] <Bytram> comes a point where that is no longer an option... remember that when we have discussions about the costs of healthcare on the site, k?
[13:59:33] <Bytram> interventions == $$$
[14:01:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll just start breaking another law on a regular basis if that becomes an issue. pot's pretty good for dealing with pain and it doesn't have as many nasty side effects as nearly any other drug or surgery.
[14:01:45] <Bytram> never tried it, and even getting a whiff of it on someone's clothes or in a hallway makes me want to puke in the worst possible way
[14:02:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i hate the smell too but you ain't technically gotta burn it
[14:02:16] <Bytram> besides, hiding the symptoms != fixing underlying problem
[14:02:30] <Bytram> ~blame
[14:02:32] * exec points at Bytram
[14:02:58] <Bytram> coffee++ time
[14:02:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4627
[14:03:05] <Bytram> afk... biab
[14:03:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod
[14:03:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[14:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[14:03:09] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 693
[14:16:21] <FatPhil> coffee++
[14:16:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4628
[15:06:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Software Vulnerabilities are Becoming More Numerous, Less Understood - http://sylnt.us - hello-entropy
[15:36:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> "fverylonglastname" is not a valid short file name
[15:36:38] * AndyTheAbsurd flips a shit
[15:37:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> I blame...
[15:37:19] * AndyTheAbsurd spins wheel-o-blame
[15:37:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Satya Nadella!
[16:01:49] <FatPhil> 451 Webpage has been incinerated for legal reasons
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[16:43:12] <Bytram> time to run some errands... have a great day everyone!
[16:43:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hope you aren't too achy after the digging
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[16:47:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The City of Angkor Died a Slow Death - http://sylnt.us - Angkor-didn't-die-in-a-day
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[18:08:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rotten Tomatoes President: We Didn't Change Site to Protect Captain Marvel - http://sylnt.us - Honeypot?
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[19:11:07] <chromas> AndyTheAbsurd: Short file name? As in DOS?
[19:39:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> chromas: last time I encountered this, changing some settings to use the old long-filenames-from-DOS format (FILENA~1.EXT) worked. This time I just had a co-worker with a very short last name log in and did it under his account!
[19:48:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - French President Says Blockchain Could Put Europe at ‘Vanguard’ of Innovation - http://sylnt.us - innovation++
[21:35:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Eye Injection Allows Night Vision - http://sylnt.us - afraid-of-the-dark-no-longer
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[23:17:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Yeast Produce Low-Cost, High-Quality Cannabinoids - http://sylnt.us - smoke-yeast-every-day
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[23:19:47] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 8°C/47°F, 3:19 pm PST, Thursday, 28 February 2019
[23:29:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck i'm tired^Wexhausted^just flat out dead
[23:30:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, can't even type ^W twice in a row
[23:32:08] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: sorry to hear how tired you are... how'd it go? Succesfully, I hope!
[23:33:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> had one short wall and one long wall done when i left TR to it. only one short one to go but it was the one with the gas meter and a couple funky corners.
[23:33:49] <Bytram> leave the best for last, along with the caution that not just anybody can dig a trench!
[23:33:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd feel bad about bailing on him early but he got a couple hours of bailing to go pick up the kids at the start of the day.
[23:34:04] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:34:14] <Bytram> #g not just anybody can paint a fence
[23:34:15] <MrPlow> https://www.orlandosentinel.com - "May 28, 2014 ... Paint the Trail by Jeff Sonksen stretches a half-mile along the ... Do not call Jeff Sonksen an artist. ... considers himself a carpenter who just happens to know how to paint portraits on fence slats. ... \"Anybody can paint these.\"."
[23:34:29] <Bytram> #g tom sawyer not just anybody can paint a fence
[23:34:29] <MrPlow> https://www.shmoop.com - "Why should you care about The Fence in Mark Twain's The Adventures of Tom Sawyer? ... Ask anyone about The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, and she'll probably say something ... that he doesn't want to do – is fun, so that he can spend the afternoon goofing off. He even get the boys to pay him for the \"privilege\" of painting."
[23:34:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh the backhoe guy is a badass. pretty sure he could open a bottle of wine without breaking it if he had a corkscrew attachment.
[23:35:11] <Bytram> Oh? Noice! For some reason, I thought *you* were the one running the backhoe
[23:35:45] * Bytram has a video somewhere showing some amazing backhoe skillz
[23:36:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw. i got many skillz but that ain't one of em.
[23:37:57] <Bytram> yeah, can't seem to find it now, either. :/
[23:38:19] <Bytram> wish I could find it... realllllllly impressive
[23:38:32] <Bytram> #yt top 10 backhoe
[23:38:32] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[23:38:42] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[23:38:43] <upstart> ^ 03Top 5 Branduri buldoexcavatoare
[23:46:18] * TheMightyBuzzard just fell asleep in his chair
[23:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, gonna get off my butt and ponder upon dinner before i end up spending the night in my computer chair.
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[23:54:54] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 8°C/47°F, 3:54 pm PST, Thursday, 28 February 2019
[23:55:10] * Bytram just fell down a rabbit hole trying to find the excavator video he recalls seeing
[23:56:28] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[23:56:29] <upstart> ^ 03Backhoe beer open
[23:56:47] <chromas> It doesn't count if the beer's tied down though
[23:57:38] <chromas> (the first 1.5 minutes is skippable)