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[22:45:59] <chromas> Who's excited for C++20? Modules at last
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[22:06:54] <upstart> ^ 03Free Enterprise (1998) ( https://www.imdb.com )
[22:06:52] <FatPhil> oh, criminey - I just watched: https://www.imdb.com
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[18:44:03] <AzumaHazuki> time for the late shift...
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[17:33:25] <MrPlow> https://www.urbandictionary.com - "The half-red, half-blue skeleton symbol associated with the Grateful Dead."
[17:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g stealie
[17:33:05] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles and covers his stealie tattoo
[17:32:03] * FatPhil suspects you're not familiar with my record collection. You'd better retract that or I might have to just, like, let you get away with it, or something.
[17:27:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, hippie tags are more expensive than deer tags. plus you can't eat the meat.
[17:26:41] <FatPhil> ... or you cater too well
[17:26:23] <dioxide> but outrage is so popular right now
[17:26:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> dioxide, i'm not nearly as blunt as i could be. i just don't cater to people who have a penchant for hysterical offense taking.
[17:24:19] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, 3°C/37°F, 9:24 am PST, Monday, 25 February 2019
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[17:24:12] <pinchy> but they pull that level for free stuff at the polls. what gives?
[17:23:54] <pinchy> "no help wanted here"
[17:23:45] <pinchy> how come vuvuzela burned the aids trucks?
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[17:19:07] <Runaway1956__> My study of apotheosis is complete - I'm leaving you humans behind!
[17:15:14] <Runaway1956__> What kind of fascist would insist that a man could do worse than living according to the ten commandments? Or the New Testament? Or worse, both?
[17:14:12] <dioxide> being blunt carries it's own version of disdain :b
[17:12:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to think soap was hippie kryptonite but i think truth's already got that spot filled.
[17:06:11] <Runaway1956__> truth hurts some people, what can I say?
[17:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, people have been getting significantly more butthurt at me since i quit trolling and just started telling the truth without even mocking them overly much.
[17:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll just tell him we've already got one, thanks. that's why it smells like bleach.
[17:02:32] <Runaway1956__> You'll have an unemployed actor coming round if the house smells like bleach - can't have that
[16:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, i think i need to teach TR how to do laundry. he got the whole fucking house smelling like bleach.
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[14:25:48] <upstart> Sub-ccess! https://soylentnews.org
[14:25:27] <upstart> Submitting "Physicists Just Solved a 35-Year-Old Mystery Hidden Inside Atomic Cores"...
[14:25:25] <SoyCow1984> =submit https://www.livescience.com
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[13:41:50] <exec> welcome Runaway1956: Dallas, TX, 5°C/41°F, 7:41 am CST, Monday, 25 February 2019
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[13:01:15] <exec> welcome Runaway1956: Dallas, TX, 4°C/40°F, 7:01 am CST, Monday, 25 February 2019
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[12:40:22] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 691
[12:40:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:40:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:37:55] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
[12:37:40] <Bytram> may or may not be back before heading in for work.
[12:37:27] <Bytram> break time
[12:37:05] <FatPhil> Accidentally, I had a roast beef instead. OOops. Shashlik place was 100 further metres away.
[12:36:31] <Bytram> tru dat
[12:36:26] <FatPhil> and sometimes you just have particular tastes in your head, and nothing else will do.
[12:36:25] <Bytram> understood
[12:36:01] <FatPhil> OK, I had only been up 2 hours, but for me, it was food time
[12:35:44] <Bytram> ahhh
[12:35:33] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "Shashlik or shashlyk is a dish of skewered and grilled cubes of meat, similar to or synonymous with shish kebab. It is known traditionally, by various other names ..."
[12:35:32] <Bytram> #g shashlik
[12:35:19] <FatPhil> But I've only said "I've got the taste for a nice greasy shashlik" once today/!
[12:34:18] <Bytram> kinda goes with his nick, doncha know?
[12:34:00] <FatPhil> :D
[12:33:34] <Bytram> he gets most of the calories, at least
[12:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think FatPhil wins.
[12:32:38] <Bytram> well, at least it's not hot
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[12:32:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[12:32:08] * exec covertly vomits a crust of $insert_beverage_here on FatPhil
[12:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday FatPhil
[12:31:18] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The spelling of William Shakespeare's name has varied over time. It was not consistently spelled any single way during his lifetime, in manuscript or in printed ..."
[12:31:17] <Bytram> #g spell shakespear
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[12:31:09] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
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[12:31:04] <Bytram> ~gday FatPhil
[12:30:08] <FatPhil> *purely* accidentally
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[12:29:50] <FatPhil> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:19:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> SFW: https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net
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[04:28:21] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHHHAHAH
[04:28:16] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, 12°C/53°F, 8:28 pm PST, Sunday, 24 February 2019
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[04:09:27] <AzumaHazuki> melatonin can cause nightmares in large doses. last night's was...not pleasant
[04:07:14] <Deucalion> That makes no sense.
[04:01:27] <AzumaHazuki> i can't sleep yet. have to do without melatonin tonight because holy fuck nightmares, so it'll take some time
[03:59:19] <Deucalion> Then it is time to turn this screen off, get into bed, shout at the duvet then sleep. People have been thus forever, you or I are not going to change that.The planet is just fine, vast majority of people are fine, you are jaded, go get some rest.
[03:55:04] <AzumaHazuki> the point is i've had it with this idiot planet and its cohort of violent, stupid, self-destructive apes in trousers
[03:53:36] <Deucalion> Never heard of it. Comics seem to be a US fascination.
[03:51:29] <AzumaHazuki> which is apparently the endgame of a cartoon called Evangelion
[03:51:18] <AzumaHazuki> a really geeky friend said "oh, Instrumentality" when i tried to explain this
[03:50:02] <Deucalion> Unity?
[03:49:44] <AzumaHazuki> dissolution of most if not all the personality
[03:49:31] <AzumaHazuki> as far as I think I understand it, "union with the source"
[03:49:09] <Deucalion> What comes after the last incarnation? So you ascend to a heaven?
[03:48:19] * AzumaHazuki is praying this is her last reincarnation
[03:48:13] <Deucalion> I hope you are paraphrasing.
[03:46:49] <Deucalion> So what? World keeps turning, we'll keep killing each other for insignicant difference.
[03:46:20] <AzumaHazuki> capitalism itself is based on a false premise: unlimited growth. that is simply not real. i just hope like hell we can get enough post-scarcity tech up and running before it's too late
[03:45:33] <Deucalion> Western capitalist society is doubtless going to decline in prosperity, possibly crisis as they mismanage "money".
[03:43:17] <AzumaHazuki> the planet and civilization are past the point where that vanity can be sustained
[03:42:35] <Deucalion> Eh... pick a modern religion of choice for ref... but in old terms VANITY.
[03:40:22] <AzumaHazuki> it's creepy as hell. it's like zombies, or something horrible that's just wearing a human skin
[03:40:06] <AzumaHazuki> maybe half of why this gets me is it's the ideological equivalent of the uncanny valley. i'm looking at beings that look human but chose to discard their humanity for whatever reason
[03:39:32] <Deucalion> Says the same about our relevance too if you think about it. We're not special.
[03:38:51] <Deucalion> Of course they are not, they are commenting on SN. Says it all.
[03:38:04] <AzumaHazuki> i am just thanking my lucky stars none of these people are in positions of policy-making
[03:36:04] <AzumaHazuki> no, these are fanatics. the sociopaths, the libertarians, the "scientific racists," the outright delusional...you name 'em, we got 'em
[03:35:10] <Deucalion> As per any discussion or comment site. Effin bots or dedicated trolls touting one line or other.
[03:35:03] <AzumaHazuki> there is a fundamental disconnect here. i truly believe some of these people are not wired right, are missing some essential parts of what it means to be a social animal, way down at the equivalent of OSI layer 1 or 2
[03:33:47] <AzumaHazuki> no, but a hell of a lot of the most active posters are spreading several kinds of it
[03:31:48] <Deucalion> SN is a dangerous poison?
[03:26:17] <AzumaHazuki> and in no small part because I've stepped up and done it
[03:26:09] <AzumaHazuki> some kinds of poison are too dangerous to just leave and walk away from. i'm probably just overly annoyed; more and more people are making it a point to call the assholes out now
[03:25:00] <Deucalion> Why would yo wish that rather than just gracefully move on?
[03:24:24] <AzumaHazuki> at this point i almost wish someone would hack it off the face of the planet, if this is what it's going to come to
[03:23:53] <AzumaHazuki> they've eaten the entire goddamn site
[03:23:36] <Deucalion> See... this is what happens when you sink to the opponents level rather than think freely. They've tied you up in mental knots. Hit REVERSE! It's just garbage noise with shills all round. GTFO
[03:20:53] <AzumaHazuki> Gab is...basically if Stormfront had its own social network
[03:20:41] <AzumaHazuki> Runaway has to be right, Uzzard's only rule is his own comfort and interests, VLM seems to want a race war based on "scientific" racism
[03:20:17] <Deucalion> Gab?
[03:20:13] <AzumaHazuki> and i've long since realized that the worst people are never going to change. they've burned their consciences, if they ever even had any, in the hands of some Moloch or another for some perceived gain
[03:19:54] <Deucalion> But then I'm a fucking socialist or communist or somesuch... I don't even know at this point. I don't do politics
[03:19:37] <AzumaHazuki> Oh, agreed, but the number of adults in the room has been decreasing thanks to them. this place is turning into another Gab
[03:18:44] <Deucalion> And I'd not have this site clip their ability to speak their opinion. Get it all out in the open and let's be adult about things.
[03:15:20] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, there's enough people on this site who would say that and mean it
[03:15:02] <Deucalion> I should have capped that with an /end sarc
[03:13:59] <Deucalion> Meh - stick em in a corner and ignore them til they expire. Why would you care about sicklings?
[03:12:25] <AzumaHazuki> there is only so much relentless awfulness one mind can take
[03:12:02] <AzumaHazuki> very likely another is gone already as i haven't been able to contact her for 2 months, and another one is going to rot slowly from diabetes and Crohn's and poverty
[03:11:35] <AzumaHazuki> i've seen too many friends die like that
[03:11:10] <Deucalion> Yep. One slip and fucked on the street and die, try not to be too noisy about it.
[03:08:08] <AzumaHazuki> that a lot of people are running on almost empty
[03:07:56] <Deucalion> proves what?
[03:07:00] <AzumaHazuki> i know. working in a hospital proves that
[03:06:39] <Deucalion> welcome to purgatory..... some call it life... it's a word pillaged from religion, I do not use it in that context...... you are not alone, many are running on fumes
[03:04:16] <AzumaHazuki> if not...
[03:04:13] <AzumaHazuki> i've got just enough existential fuel left to keep going for a little while longer. if things continue to improve as they have the past couple of months, this may be indefinite
[03:03:35] <Deucalion> You always have choices
[03:03:15] <Deucalion> I'm sure you'll see them right before topping yourself
[03:01:55] <AzumaHazuki> i have no choice. there are people depending on me ...fools.
[03:01:35] <Deucalion> Linger if you like.
[03:00:57] <AzumaHazuki> yes, well, if we have to linger...
[03:00:26] <Deucalion> And there is nothing to win...
[02:59:48] <Deucalion> Who is the zombie? Cranberries
[02:56:52] <AzumaHazuki> well it does no good if the zombies win the apocalypse
[02:56:06] <Deucalion> Right decision. Society is sick.
[02:55:06] <AzumaHazuki> they say the one ignorant of history is condemned to repear it. what they don't say is the one who knows history is condemned to be dragged along like Hell's mosh pit, screaming and struggling and cursing every inch
[02:54:26] <AzumaHazuki> i wonder sometimes if i made the wrong decision trying to rise above that
[02:53:35] <Deucalion> Yep, humanity..... smile to the face, stab in the back. Fuck you, got mine. Human nature - selfish, self serving bastards.
[02:50:00] <AzumaHazuki> after you see enough friends suffer and die from preventable causes, and see enough other people chortling about it, and very nearly fall victim to those same things yourself...a fire is lit inside you
[02:49:24] <Deucalion> You seem passionate... what makes you so?
[02:48:35] <Deucalion> I see. Do illuminate my thoughts on the matter
[02:47:14] <AzumaHazuki> well...you will see if you go read it, anyway
[02:46:53] <Deucalion> I see
[02:46:35] <AzumaHazuki> it's in his journal, the one titled "Observations." I very nearly went the same way myself a few years ago :(
[02:45:45] <Deucalion> I see
[02:43:55] <AzumaHazuki> and, unfortunately, he's decided that mere effort of examination is equal to actually finding the truth. that sort of anti-pattern almost qualifies as a basilisk itself, a memetic kill agent
[02:43:15] <AzumaHazuki> pretty sure he's already well 'round the twist by now
[02:41:52] <Deucalion> Are you conversing with your own Bot TMB? That way lies madness,
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[02:05:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, dinner time then buffy time. yall have a pleasant, restful evening.
[02:03:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. nice guy. i could dig on a socialist like him. he wasn't about forcing folks to do it, he was about convincing them and letting them decide.
[02:02:10] <AzumaHazuki> then, again, this is no surprise: we know what happened to the last socialist Jew who said to be good to the poor, now don't we...?
[02:01:45] <AzumaHazuki> welp. the great american experiment is all over bar the screaming. all that remains is the explosion and to pick up the pieces.
[02:01:21] <AzumaHazuki> yes. i was facepalming from the start over it
[02:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> if he'd picked another word he might have won both the nomination and the election but that one word tanked him.
[02:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe at some point but not while the boomers or anyone older than them is alive.
[01:59:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> would never have happened. the US won't elect a socialist.
[01:56:49] <AzumaHazuki> we needed Sanders
[01:56:46] <AzumaHazuki> indeed, and that's the sad part. she's just another neoliberal warmonger.
[01:56:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean hillary would have been no better than trump at diplomacy. if she were better at talking to people than him she would have won.
[01:54:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. if they can't even manage an election well, i have no faith in their ability to govern. especially diplomacy.
[01:53:55] <AzumaHazuki> human nature really is shit :/
[01:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> people who are pissed off at you tend to not want to vote for you.
[01:53:31] <AzumaHazuki> "stop holding racists, bigots, and worst of all the immoral billionaire class responsible for their actions"
[01:53:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> facts aren't going to win either party the election if they both insist on screwing major demographic groups.
[01:52:47] <AzumaHazuki> christ, the instant i can get to Canada i am out of here so fast it will leave Cherenkov radiation *from behind me*
[01:52:37] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[01:52:19] <AzumaHazuki> but fuck it, facts are for commies, right?
[01:52:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> it tells something useful, just not necessarily what people think it tells.
[01:52:12] <AzumaHazuki> worse than useless actually, since it means people like you will score cheap rhetorical points with the too lazy to research crowd by spewing falsehoods
[01:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> only halfway
[01:51:45] <AzumaHazuki> it's. useless.
[01:51:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> true enough but it's all we've got to go by at the moment
[01:51:16] <AzumaHazuki> we don't count unemployment properly. U3 doesn't mean shit.
[01:51:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> black folks especially. they're at record low unemployment since we first started counting.
[01:50:26] <AzumaHazuki> ....aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
[01:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> working out well enough. we're measurably better off than we were when cheeto jesus took office.
[01:49:59] <AzumaHazuki> no, no, perceived self interest. and that's so very easy to manipulate. tell 'em it's all the brown peoples' fault
[01:49:39] <AzumaHazuki> hah. "self-interest." yeah, the tax cuts and the trade wars are working out SO WELL for them
[01:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> partially. partially simple self interest.
[01:49:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, and they got trumped too.
[01:48:57] <AzumaHazuki> but i get it, it's all about da feelz
[01:48:51] <AzumaHazuki> the GOP one does too and will do the screwing 14 ways to Sunday and laugh at you behind your back
[01:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> because what else are you going to think when a party spends all its time telling you you're assholes?
[01:47:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's not the thinking. the thinking is "well the dem candidate hates my breathing guts and is going to screw me nine ways to sunday"
[01:47:12] <AzumaHazuki> any idiot who votes on the basis of "would I knock back a brewski with this candidate?" is part of the problem
[01:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't matter. see above re: shitting on everyone
[01:46:41] <AzumaHazuki> they're still correct, though
[01:46:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's because the intellectuals have been elitist dickholes of late.
[01:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> politicians not electorate. if you do something that causes you to lose and you should have known better, it's dumb as shit to do it.
[01:45:51] <AzumaHazuki> this country has a serious anti intellectual streak and it's risen to the level of a cultural autoimmune disease if you ask me
[01:45:33] <AzumaHazuki> "dumb as shit" has characterized the American electorate almost from day 1
[01:45:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not particularly concerned with the issues at the moment, just talking what's wise strategy and what's dumb as shit.
[01:44:05] <AzumaHazuki> maybe we'll have one as president someday when we overcome that oppression. or maybe 44.5 of them in a fucking row
[01:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> irrelevant. nobody likes taking shit 24/7
[01:43:42] <AzumaHazuki> right, because white folks are so oppressed
[01:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> just people being people. you can only shit on half the country so long before they riot.
[01:43:24] <AzumaHazuki> i want to know who the fuck's really pulling the strings here. I see a perfect divide and conquer being played and most people my generation playing right into it
[01:42:34] <AzumaHazuki> stupid as all hell, of course
[01:41:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, him getting elected ain't cancer, it's pushback against the whole extreme PC/outrage culture mostly. some pushback against the establishments of both parties mixed in as well though.
[01:40:46] <AzumaHazuki> if i were a betting kind of woman (and, you know, had any money to bet with...), well...
[01:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> unlikely. he's in great health and if they remotely had anything on him it would have leaked by now.
[01:40:09] <AzumaHazuki> i'm under no illusions, though: the American body politic has terminal stage 4 cancer. however this ends i doubt the nation will exist as we know it by 2030
[01:39:36] <AzumaHazuki> with any luck the fat orange son of a bitch will be rotting in prison, or Hell, by then
[01:38:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't be either in your shoes. trump's going to win unless the dems run a flyover state governor.
[01:38:04] * exec curiously prepares a quart of windows 8 for FatPhil
[01:38:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight FatPhil
[01:37:56] * exec accidentally integrates a chest of coins with TheMightyBuzzard
[01:37:54] <FatPhil> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[01:37:19] <AzumaHazuki> the dems also have this 40 year tradition of snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory. i am not hopeful about the 2020 elections
[01:35:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> trying to separate everyone by demographic and pit them against everyone else instead of getting your populism on is not a good strategy though, you're correct.
[01:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> couldn't have been carter. he was as common as dirt.
[01:33:48] <AzumaHazuki> i want to know who it was who managed to psy-op the democrats into ripping the populist engine out of their policymaking car in the late 70s. That was a vicious killing blow.
[01:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> clinton wasn't all that bad legal-wise. obama was either crooked as all fuck or his supporters in the federal bureaucracy were though.
[01:30:57] <AzumaHazuki> if they'd thrown the book at him, we'd never had had slick willie or chimpy mcbusharse's bullshit, let alone trump
[01:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, you may be right on that.
[01:30:38] <AzumaHazuki> the precedent he set was what did us in, and ford has a hand in it by pardoning him
[01:30:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> he was a crook but he wasn't a bad president really
[01:29:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nixon was the one who started pulling us out of nam and signed the foodstamps bill. and the stuff he had to resign over was tame as hell compared to what's done nowadays.
[01:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, we don't care much about gay folks anymore. they're boring next to genderfluid male-to-wombat transfurries.
[01:17:35] <FatPhil> I'd take out Nancy's too, just to be sure, she was part of his problem.
[01:14:25] <AzumaHazuki> if i ever invent a time machine i am going to abort all 8 of Reagan's great-great grandfathers with an ice pick, I swear to Madokami. And then Nixon's next
[01:12:28] <FatPhil> alas not :(
[01:12:16] <chromas> FatPhil: you sent us all your puritans
[01:11:23] <FatPhil> most of the EU apart from a couple of crazily catholic corners are very live-and-let-live. I get the feeling the US is more in a flap about these things.
[01:11:17] <AzumaHazuki> what are you even saying?
[01:11:06] <chromas> Gay marriage is fine now. But gawd help me if there's gonna be any transmissions hooking up
[01:10:40] <chromas> Lesbians aren't gay. Change My Mind™
[01:08:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Announces $3,500 HoloLens 2 With Wider Field of View and Other Improvements - http://sylnt.us - Hello-lens!
[01:08:03] <AzumaHazuki> hell, i hope not. it would be so completely awful if i finally get Liz away from that awful family only not to be able to marry her
[01:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, marriage equality could pass the house and senate and trump would sign it. not enough people care about it in the negative enough to raise much of a fuss anymore.
[01:04:34] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[01:04:34] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:00:33] <FatPhil> how many anti Roe vs. Wade justices are there now? 3?
[00:59:52] <FatPhil> at least SCOTUS had given you precedent.
[00:58:45] <FatPhil> there's always Canada...
[00:57:46] * AzumaHazuki has a feeling we're going to lose marriage equality
[00:57:35] <AzumaHazuki> indeed
[00:57:04] <FatPhil> almost entirely predictable who went which way.
[00:56:14] <FatPhil> we just watched E05 of the current series of Drunk History, and I did some sniffing into which justices whent which way on the 2013 DOMA decision
[00:53:58] <FatPhil> I used to know a hebrew bible scholar, we had some interesting chats about the ambiguously-enumerated commandments
[00:40:14] <AzumaHazuki> that was like all of the commandments
[00:27:23] <FatPhil> Ah, I forgot the 11th commandment was "Go forth and kill", my mistake.
[00:26:42] <FatPhil> "a Jesuit military school"??!?!?!?
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[00:16:00] <AzumaHazuki> Oppo Gungnam Style?