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[00:27:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What is the Cost of Interrupting a Radiologist? - http://sylnt.us - gamma-radiation
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[00:58:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk's Obscenely Large Compensation Package - http://sylnt.us - obscenely-large-package
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[01:16:38] <takyon> http://www.sciencemag.org
[01:16:38] <upstart> ^ 03Meet Vaclav Smil, the man who has quietly shaped how the world thinks about energy | Science | AAAS
[01:17:02] <takyon> http://www.sciencemag.org
[01:17:02] <upstart> ^ 03Exclusive: ‘I’ve never seen anything like it.’ Video of mating deep-sea anglerfish stuns biologists | Science | AAAS
[01:18:05] <takyon> https://www.nextbigfuture.com
[01:18:05] <upstart> ^ 03Electron holography microscope with spatial resolution down to one atom | NextBigFuture.com
[01:18:45] <takyon> https://www.nextbigfuture.com
[01:18:46] <upstart> ^ 03Breakthrough to wafer scale quantum processors using silicon isotope and eventually trillions of qubits | NextBigFuture.com
[01:19:39] <takyon> https://www.vice.com
[01:20:21] <upstart> ^ 03Weinstein Still Owes Malia Obama Money After Her Internship - VICE
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[01:22:03] <takyon> https://www.nextbigfuture.com
[01:22:04] <upstart> ^ 03Advanced Vasimr plasma drives and SpaceX BFR trip times | NextBigFuture.com
[01:43:28] <Ellenor> haha
[01:46:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk's Monstrous, Enormously Large Compensation Package - http://sylnt.us - obscenely-large-package
[02:09:34] <chromas> "Obscene" was too obscene?
[02:11:29] <takyon> Had to stop a cascade of nitpickers before it became obscenely nitpicky
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[02:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Methods Find Undiagnosed Genetic Diseases In Electronic Health Records - http://sylnt.us - finding-needles-in-paper-haystacks
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[04:07:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - South Korea Aiming for 10 Gbps Internet Service to be Available to Half of its Population by 2022 - http://sylnt.us - faster-starcraft-matches
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[04:27:15] <AzumaHazuki> okay, you know what this is about already
[04:29:24] <AzumaHazuki> i am only going to say this once: what appears to be a 6 month moderation ban for flagging useless, outright harassing spam *as* spam is somewhere between unjust and ludicrous
[04:29:50] <AzumaHazuki> what in the name of Sappho's sling bikini was whoever did that *thinking?!*
[04:32:29] <Ellenor> AzumaHazuki: somewhere between ludicrous and a crime
[04:32:40] <AzumaHazuki> yes, well, someone did it
[04:34:03] <AzumaHazuki> look, people, the output of the poster known as "cocaine overdose" is basically ALL spam. The only things of his I modded as such were things like "if I choke you with my dick will you stop bitching?" And only the third, fourth etc. reply along those lines, after warning him that I would do so
[04:51:45] <AzumaHazuki> Bloody 'ell...when does janrinok usually show up?
[04:56:06] <Ellenor> qurater past never
[05:00:55] <AzumaHazuki> well, this is what we scientific types refer to formally as "steaming, straining, grunting bullshit"
[05:01:50] <AzumaHazuki> you know, when we want to get technical
[05:20:15] <AzumaHazuki> 'k, i've got real world things to do. we'll hash this out when the people with actual power are around
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[05:36:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ESA Selects ARIEL Exoplanet Survey as a Medium Class Mission - http://sylnt.us - under-the-cosmic-sea
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[07:07:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ransomware Infects City of Atlanta Computers - http://sylnt.us - what's-a-backup?
[08:48:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Administration Plans to Impose $50-60 Billion of Tariffs on Chinese Goods - http://sylnt.us - buy-your-tech-stuff-now
[10:26:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Genetic Testing Explains Features of Chilean Six-Inch-Long Mummified Skeleton - http://sylnt.us - bad-to-the-bone?
[11:56:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A "Tamper-Proof" Currency Wallet Just Got Backdoored by a 15-Year-Old - http://sylnt.us - And-I-would-have-gotten-away-with-it-too,-if-it-weren't-for-you-meddling-kids^H
[12:08:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> heh heh heh "backdoored"
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[12:52:18] <fyngyrz> clamato++
[12:52:18] <Bender> karma - clamato: 7
[13:37:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Congress Passes SESTA/FOSTA Law - http://sylnt.us - The-best-laid-schemes-o'-mice-an'-men-[an'-Congress]-Gang-aft-agley
[13:51:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> PSA: i'm not gonna be at home till the first after tomorrow morning.
[13:51:58] <chromas> But who will troll the trolls?
[13:52:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i'll have my laptop handy but i'm not gonna be on it as much due to otherwise being busy.
[14:16:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:16:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4015
[14:17:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[14:18:17] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off to get his out of town shat ready
[14:20:22] <pinchy> super long fishing trip?
[14:23:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> TMB is gonna try to catch one of these? http://www.thejump.net
[14:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> mix of business n pleasure this time. rest assured fishing shall be involved at some point.
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[14:40:38] <Sulla> Arist sure forgets to log in a lot
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[15:07:46] <chromas> https://www.msn.com
[15:07:46] <upstart> ^ 03'Utterly horrifying': ex-Facebook insider says covert data harvesting was routine
[15:12:36] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[15:12:36] <upstart> ^ 03Get the new Dell XPS 13 laptop for $854 - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[15:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Shows Off New 64 GB Server Memory Modules Using 16 Gb Chips, Promises 128-256 GB This Year - http://sylnt.us - I-remember-core-memory
[15:22:43] <Sulla> My next laptop will be a dell latitude
[15:23:22] <Sulla> Last one I had was a thinkpad, used the latitude at work and I think I prefer the latitude. Chiklet keyboards are dumb though
[15:26:22] <Bytram> pcjr--
[15:26:22] <Bender> karma - pcjr: -1
[15:29:25] <Sulla> https://www.pcworld.com
[15:30:54] <upstart> ^ 03Lenovo's latest laptop is a 10-pound powerhouse with a mechanical keyboard | PCWorld
[15:32:54] <Sulla> I would be interested if it had a dock
[15:33:28] <cmn32480> think that dock is require because the laptop is as big as a boat?
[15:34:34] <Sulla> I like docks because it keeps the battery from losing its ability
[15:35:08] <Sulla> Latitude at work is on a dock 24/7 but when removed has a good 7 hour battery while being used continuoisly
[15:40:12] <Bytram> noice!!
[15:54:59] <Sulla> Well wife is in surgury for the csection, guess I better get gone
[15:55:19] <Bytram> Sulla: Congratulations and good luck!
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[16:25:25] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[16:25:26] <upstart> ^ 03DNC “lone hacker” Guccifer 2.0 pegged as Russian spy after opsec fail | Ars Technica ( https://arstechnica.com )
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[16:45:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Secure Messaging App "Telegram" Loses Bid to Block Encryption Keys from Russia - http://sylnt.us - "Land-Shark"
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[17:34:00] <Sulla> Well shit, having one kid compared to twins is super easy
[17:47:26] <chromas> The next will be quads
[17:47:40] <chromas> Powers of two.
[17:48:35] <Sulla> Na I went the other way
[17:48:37] <Sulla> 2 then 1
[17:48:45] <Sulla> There are all these periods of silence
[17:48:47] <chromas> Ah
[17:48:55] <chromas> Well then the next one will be ½
[17:49:12] <chromas> Congrats and stuff
[17:49:21] <Sulla> Thanks
[17:49:34] <Sulla> Not a baby person but will be cool in a year or two
[17:49:47] <Sulla> I got a puppy for myself for the meantime
[18:04:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just spotted https://www.reddit.com
[18:04:16] <upstart> ^ 03Too Many Requests
[18:04:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> I wonder if that's *our* fyngyrz.
[18:06:36] <chromas> There can be only one.
[18:06:41] * chromas grabs a sword
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[18:26:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pioneers of Modern Computer Architecture Receive ACM A.M. Turing Award - http://sylnt.us - RISCy-business
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[19:13:57] <rnicholl> Why is there a timer between comment postings?
[19:14:11] <rnicholl> that was one of the things that made me decide to use soylent instead of the green site
[19:14:16] <rnicholl> now you're just copying their shit
[19:19:13] <Bytram> if you read the FAQ, you'll learn that the code which supports SoylentNews was taken from an [outdated, nonfunctioning] version of the code that ran slashdot, that we have modified and made those changes freely available to others.
[19:20:31] <Bytram> as for timer between comment postings, there is not a single timer... there are, IIRC, different delays for ACs, logged-in users, and for subscribers.
[19:21:52] <Bytram> as for WHY there are timers, just think of what would happen to a story's comments if someone could post comments with no intervening delay... I could easily see someone trying to troll the site and just slamming a
[19:22:17] <Bytram> whole bunch of comments into a discussion so as to overwhelm and drown out any actual discourse.
[19:23:23] <Bytram> btw, the FAQ is here: https://soylentnews.org
[19:23:24] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews: FAQ
[19:23:34] <Bytram> micholl ^^^^
[19:24:02] <Bytram> heh. bad kerning got me! my bad!!!
[19:24:06] <Bytram> rnicholl: ^^^
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[19:28:59] <Sulla> That "just think of what would happen" felt like "someone think of the children!"
[19:29:14] <Sulla> I demand wild west articles, quick draw posting
[19:29:25] <Sulla> Post first and ask questions later
[19:30:07] <Sulla> Wasn't that DN poster the cause of these?
[19:41:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> rnicholl, there has ALWAYS been a timer between comment postings here since day one and it hasn't changed since i've been here.
[19:46:34] <Sulla> Bytram, TheMightyBuzzard: looks like those blackberry q10s were old corporate phones, all in good shape. Got five for the sub drive I am going to do. Dont know details
[19:46:45] <Sulla> But ITS HAPPENING
[19:46:57] <Bytram> kewel!
[19:47:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty
[19:47:42] <Bytram> just to make sure... I have this link from before... is this the one? https://m.gsmarena.com
[19:47:44] <upstart> ^ 03BlackBerry Q10 - Full phone specifications
[19:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bytram
[19:47:58] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with a SYNTAX ERROR ON LINE 12
[19:48:36] <Bytram> ~blame
[19:48:37] * exec points at Bytram
[19:48:51] <Sulla> Description sounds right
[19:49:18] * Bytram is actually somewhat relaxed atm; 2nd day off IN A ROW makes a big difference.
[19:49:27] <Bytram> think I may go take a nap
[19:49:32] <Sulla> Have fun
[19:49:47] <Sulla> Once family gets here I will get to take off and find food
[19:57:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Relativity Space Leases Land at NASA's Stennis Space Center in Mississippi - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-lot-of-PLA
[20:09:44] <rnicholl> TheMightyBuzzard: maybe it was broken before??
[20:09:50] <rnicholl> anyway I'm used to posting without it
[20:13:08] <chromas> Did you have a subscrption that expired?
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[20:15:41] <AzumaHazuki> Ugh, still no janrinok? I need to talk to whoever is in charge...
[20:20:22] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: what's up?
[20:21:11] <Bytram> I am, by no means "in charge", but I can lend an ear and see what is going on and pass it along
[20:21:48] <AzumaHazuki> i'll tell you what's up. i got a 6 freaking month mod ban for warning "cocaine overdose" that repeated posts along the lines of "if i choke you with my dick will you shut up?" would be modded Spam, and then doing it as promised after the third or fourth time
[20:22:19] <AzumaHazuki> this is what we sciency types technically refer to as "complete and utter bullshit"
[20:23:05] <Bytram> okay... I can see you are upset, but this ain't helping. Links, please?
[20:24:45] <AzumaHazuki> https://soylentnews.org from here on down
[20:24:47] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Austin Bombing Suspect Killed Himself in Explosion as SWAT Approached ( https://soylentnews.org )
[20:25:01] <Bytram> clicky
[20:25:51] <Sulla> Seems like spam to me - but also feedin the troll
[20:26:00] <Bytram> okay, that was in reply to your comment: https://soylentnews.org
[20:26:03] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Austin Bombing Suspect Killed Himself in Explosion as SWAT Approached ( https://soylentnews.org )
[20:26:21] <Bytram> "God, you are an irredeemable piece of shit. Choke on David Duke's dick and die already will you?"
[20:26:31] <Bytram> that sounds like an invitation for a reasoned discussion?
[20:26:41] <AzumaHazuki> i realize that, because I tend to kick uzzard and runaway up and down the aisle, i'm not one of the popular people on site. but there is no excuse for this
[20:26:44] <Bytram> me goes back up to THAT comment's parent
[20:26:59] <AzumaHazuki> do yourself a favor and look at "cocaine overdose's" psot history
[20:27:33] <Sulla> Unsure that guys problem, has made the site obnoxious recently
[20:27:38] <AzumaHazuki> he pollutes every thread he posts in with this garbage
[20:27:47] <Bytram> if you have a specific comment of CO's that you want me to look at, I would be happy to do so
[20:28:03] <AzumaHazuki> and yet, I'M the one in the wrong, with a six-month mod ban no less, for modding his spam *as* Spam
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[20:28:50] <Bytram> I had nothing to do with the mod ban... had you received one before this one?
[20:28:57] <AzumaHazuki> yes, and that one *was* deserved
[20:29:02] <Bytram> k
[20:29:06] <AzumaHazuki> this one is not
[20:29:10] <AzumaHazuki> and I am *pissed*
[20:29:21] <Bytram> I noticed that
[20:30:39] <Sulla> Im gonna plug a old journal here in that I think we need a standard
[20:30:56] <Sulla> How many redundants before a spam?
[20:31:01] <Sulla> Offtopics, etc
[20:31:07] <Bytram> looking at his comment history, it looks like s/he has posted about 1000 comments over the past few days
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[20:31:24] <AzumaHazuki> indeed. we dine well in Camelot, eat ham and jam and Spam a lot
[20:31:26] <Bytram> s/1000/100/
[20:31:28] <exec> <Bytram> looking at his comment history, it looks like s/he has posted about 100 comments over the past few days
[20:31:45] <AzumaHazuki> wouldn't surprise me if the guy actually *is* a cokehead
[20:32:40] <Bytram> so which comment did you warn that you would mod as spam?
[20:32:55] <Bytram> s/ / in/
[20:32:57] <exec> <Bytram> so inwhich comment did you warn that you would mod as spam?
[20:34:01] <AzumaHazuki> that comment i linked contains the rest of the subthread. My reply was "Are we done here? I'll start Spam-modding anything in a similar vein, as it's both contentless and off-topic.
[20:34:26] <AzumaHazuki> this is after three comments along the same lines, which all added up to "I'm going to irrumate you to shut you up" more or less
[20:34:31] <AzumaHazuki> (yes, you learned a new word today)
[20:35:50] <Bytram> please do not take out your anger on me... I am trying to understand what has happened. I am asking for links to the comments where you "warned three times" that you would then mod as spam.
[20:37:02] <AzumaHazuki> the one i linked you to doesn't show the rest of the subthread?
[20:37:12] <AzumaHazuki> the Spam mods seem to have been undone, by the way
[20:38:17] <Bytram> done, or undone... could you please provide links to each of the comments where you warned that you would start modding as spam?
[20:39:02] <Sulla> Ianam but also have been mod banned in the past (disputed but thats fine), but it seems you had back and forth troll/flame and then you warned and then spam modded next comment?
[20:40:04] <AzumaHazuki> Sulla: yes, I deserved the first one, but not this one. Bytram: i think we;re talking past one another here. That link I gave you, does it not also show several follow-up comments, includng my warning to him?
[20:40:11] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: FYI, I just got off working 6 days straight, this is my day off, I would really rather be taking a nap right about now, and this site is run by volunteers... we get no pay of any kind for our efforts. So, if you want some help, it woulkd be a good idea to make it as easy as possible for those you are *asking* for help to be able to do so.
[20:40:38] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: the link doesn't show the rest of the subthread? when i click it i see the entire thing
[20:40:38] <Bytram> I am willing to help, but please don't make me pull he's teeth, okay?
[20:40:57] <AzumaHazuki> okay, let's try going to Are we done here? I'll start Spam-modding anything in a similar vein, as it's both contentless and off-topic.
[20:41:01] <AzumaHazuki> er...
[20:41:56] <AzumaHazuki> https://www.soylentnews.org and then ctrl+f (or other search shortcut) for "If I choke you with my dick." (lovely)
[20:42:01] <upstart> ^ 03Austin Bombing Suspect Killed Himself in Explosion as SWAT Approached - SoylentNews
[20:45:03] <Sulla> Make a journal entry ari style (no insult) and let public opinion judge
[20:45:25] <Sulla> I feel that any justification for spam ban that gets +5 should be revoked
[20:46:08] <AzumaHazuki> Sulla, this place is run by "libertarians." They talk a good game about freedom of speech and high signal-to-noise ratio, but they're as human and biased as anyone else
[20:46:35] <Sulla> Im libertarian too and I got banned for I feel justifibly spam modding ari
[20:46:48] <AzumaHazuki> and I'm not Mrs. Popular on here because I give fewer fucks than Deadpool barebacking a rabid honey badger while the both of them are high on PCP and will fight ANYONE
[20:48:19] <Bytram> here's what I see: jmorris posted a comment (656273); you replied. (656351) part of which contained "God, you are an irredeemable piece of shit. Choke on David Duke's dick and die already will you?" then, in (656413) CO posted "If I choke you with my dick, does that mean you'll stop bitching"... and in reply (656439) you replied "How? You'd need one of those precision microcaliper things to even get a grip on it..."...
[20:48:42] <AzumaHazuki> yes. rather than immediately downmod an asshole, i prefer to asshole back first. *First.*
[20:50:01] <Bytram> from my perspective, I would have modded 656351 as trollbait
[20:50:31] <AzumaHazuki> usually replies like that get snark from me, then troll or flamebait mode
[20:50:35] <Bytram> if one tosses insults around, do not be surprised if they are returned
[20:50:56] <AzumaHazuki> but this asshole kept it up, and kept it up, and i warned him he was being both offtopic and contentless, i.e., spamming.
[20:51:08] <AzumaHazuki> large volumes of contentless noise is pretty much the definition of spam
[20:52:15] <Bytram> yes, this is the internet... and you've been on it long enough to know that it takes two. Yes, it is not easy to take the high road and cut off the back-and-forth, but in the long run it is far less work.
[20:53:03] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram, it has been my experience that bullies only learn from pain. I "took the high road" for years and it just got me hurt (and if you think girls don't get physical, well...)
[20:53:22] <AzumaHazuki> know what stopped my bully problem? in seventh grade i broke a girl's nose and three of her ribs, and apparently almost collapsed a lung
[20:53:39] <AzumaHazuki> i have never forgotten this. because i got in trouble, but i didn't get picked on any longer
[20:54:33] <AzumaHazuki> in my experience, The Powers That Be (whoever and whatever they may Be) don't give a shit about injustice, they just want not to be bothered
[20:54:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> ^ that's usually true
[20:55:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> occasionally if something happens RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSE they'll feel compelled to do something about it
[20:55:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> but not often
[20:55:20] <AzumaHazuki> and that is why I have a habit of taking the law into my own hands after exhausting the usual avenues and inevitably being disappointed
[20:55:21] <Bytram> I understand the need to respond... and to not get walked over, but "a good offense makes the best defense" tends to bring on far more vitriole in the long run... start nice, learn how to growl, and only THEn would I bite.
[20:55:44] <AzumaHazuki> they see "nice" as weakness, and i don't like to bluff or make threats I won't follow up on
[20:56:40] <Bytram> is there anything else that you would like me to communicate to the rest of the team about this particular incident?
[20:57:16] <AzumaHazuki> well, i don't know a polite way of saying "the way you're handling this is such dogshit i'm amazed your shoes don't squelch," so...
[20:57:25] <AzumaHazuki> probably not
[20:58:03] <Sulla> How long have you used the internet?
[20:58:07] <Bytram> I said right at the outset that I would listen and pass along your input, and I *WILL* do that.
[20:58:10] <Sulla> Mod flame and move on, dont feed trolls
[20:58:24] <Bytram> and, I really do not apprecdiate being insulted when I am trying to help.
[20:58:33] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: that wasn't directed at you
[20:58:40] <AzumaHazuki> since you're not in charge you said
[20:59:13] * Bytram curses his laptop kbd
[20:59:19] <AzumaHazuki> Sulla: about 17 or 18 years, I think. I got on very late because hurr hurr poor and what is modem
[21:00:05] * chromas ATDTs
[21:00:20] <Bytram> and, indeed I am not in charge. the staff each has areas of expertise, but we check in with each other to keep others aware of what is going on, and at times have discussions on how to handle various circumstqances/situations.
[21:00:41] <AzumaHazuki> well, you didn't push the ban button, so you have nothing to be guilty of...
[21:00:57] <AzumaHazuki> i have a good idea whose fault this is
[21:02:37] <Sulla> Looks to me like you earned it, I reread it. Just cause CO is trash doesnt justify abuse of the system. Flame maked him -1 just as good as spam.
[21:02:42] <Bytram> there are times in the past when there was a discussion about whether a ban applied or not, and I have been the 'button pusher', but not in this cdase. that is correct.
[21:02:50] <Sulla> Flame on the first post and not responding would have ended it
[21:03:14] <AzumaHazuki> but this isn't just about me. half or more of what he posts is this sort of contentless drivel
[21:03:37] <Sulla> Dont let the devil drag you to hell with him
[21:03:52] <AzumaHazuki> i've been slaying demons (metaphorically) for years
[21:04:04] <Sulla> You starve a troll not feed them
[21:04:07] <AzumaHazuki> besides which, the site is overrun with "demons" if it comes to that
[21:04:13] <Sulla> He will sta here as long as people take the bait
[21:04:15] <Bytram> yup, and the community is well-equipoped to keep modding such posts as torll/flamebait -- maybe not immediately (doh!), but it all seems to work out in time
[21:04:42] <AzumaHazuki> no it doesn't, Bytram. that's this place's dirty secret. a good chunk of the staff seems to be basically the same kind of person as some of our "demons"
[21:04:47] <AzumaHazuki> this place is turning into gab
[21:05:25] <AzumaHazuki> i don't know what it is about the smaller, more technical forums, but they always seem to attract the vilest sociopathic loonies...
[21:06:40] Sulla is now known as LiterallyHitler
[21:07:04] <AzumaHazuki> VLM and JMorris, for example.
[21:07:13] <Bytram> I said I would inform the staff, I have done so. It may be a while as we have a couple people on the road and one is recovering from surgery, never mind the tasks of keeping stories queued
[21:07:27] <LiterallyHitler> Pssh, you can still debate blm and jmorris
[21:07:33] <AzumaHazuki> Oh, don't rush. I know these things take time
[21:07:52] <Bytram> appreciate your understaning.\
[21:08:02] LiterallyHitler is now known as NotSulla
[21:08:06] <AzumaHazuki> nein, Mein Fuhrer. they are not here for debate and their minds, such as they are, are not amenable to change. they are here to *proselytize*
[21:08:14] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[21:08:14] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[21:08:34] * Bytram is housesitting atm, and does not have access to his external kbd and monitor; lappy's are nowhere near as good. :/
[21:08:41] <AzumaHazuki> small-l-libertarianism is probably one of those "cognitive shortcuts" i hear so much about, and that is a problem the human race needs to address
[21:09:04] * Bytram yawns, too, and heads off for a much-needed nap.
[21:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm busy packing for a trip, what evil plans yall got to make me late for dinner?
[21:10:23] <AzumaHazuki> none yet. i have to go see a lady about an napartment in 20m
[21:10:29] <AzumaHazuki> apartment*
[21:10:42] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles and reads scrollback
[21:11:06] <AzumaHazuki> i'm bringing blueberry muffins and a catnip pillow for her kitty, so hopefully will be the one chosen to rent :)
[21:11:20] <AzumaHazuki> ...muffins for her, catnip for the cat. not, you know, muffins for the cat
[21:11:34] <NotSulla> I didnt make popcorn for nothing, get at it
[21:12:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, if he really was doing copy pasta, it's spam and the mods were legit. i don't have time to chase through them to check though.
[21:12:47] <AzumaHazuki> oh, he's not the "feces soup" guy. but what he was doing was close enough to copypasta to count, IMNSHO
[21:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i mean if he was repeating himself not echoing someone else
[21:14:03] <chromas> Was it an erroneous-spam-mod modban or a modbomb modban?
[21:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine, damnit. i'll look. this is coming out of yall's pay though.
[21:15:11] * chromas tacks an extra 0 onto TheMightyBuzzard's paycheck
[21:15:23] <AzumaHazuki> the user in question is "cocaine overdose." consider his entire post history: he's dropped over 100 comments in <3 days
[21:15:31] <AzumaHazuki> and most of them are contentless noise
[21:18:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, those are him being a nuisance but not spam as we define it round these parts
[21:19:37] <AzumaHazuki> large volumes of near-zero signal-to-noise-ratio posts? that's pretty much the definition of spam
[21:19:51] <AzumaHazuki> besides which, flamebait and troll mods don't seem to have any "bite" to them
[21:21:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't really justify a ten point hit for someone being an imbecile though
[21:21:29] <chromas> I'd like to suggest a new mod: "-1, Jesus, dude!"
[21:22:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i see where you're coming from but it don't quite hit within our definitions of spam
[21:22:35] <AzumaHazuki> three posts in a row of "I'm going to facefuck you into silence" don't count, huh?
[21:22:50] <AzumaHazuki> only my girlfriend is allowed to do that :v
[21:23:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> were there? i didn't see any repetitive ones that got marked spam
[21:23:22] <AzumaHazuki> someone undid the mods, it seems
[21:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll look. they still show in the mod bombs page
[21:23:57] <AzumaHazuki> i have a suggestion: troll mod needs to be somewhere in the -2 to -4 range, not -1
[21:24:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's not there for a karma hit. it's there for a comment score hit.
[21:25:28] <AzumaHazuki> well, we have users who seem to do almost nothing but troll
[21:25:50] <AzumaHazuki> and while some flamebait-y things are good debate points, trolling for its own sake really ought to be hit harder
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[21:26:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> we do but i disagree. we don't do punishment for speech round these parts unless it's fitting the spam definition.
[21:27:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> if getting on someone's last nerve by saying dumb shit were a crime, neither of us would ever be able to post again.
[21:28:00] <AzumaHazuki> that is a fact :v
[21:28:30] <AzumaHazuki> that said, posts that are *just* insults don't really contribute anything
[21:28:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but again, glass houses n stones.
[21:29:09] <AzumaHazuki> and "If I choke you with my dick will you quit bitching?" is, shall we say, not conducive to productive debate
[21:29:29] <AzumaHazuki> i was hoping a few counter-insults would give this idiot waterhead a clue and make him cut it out...
[21:29:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> we got enough mod points floating around that it should get taken care of, even if he posts a hundred times a day.
[21:30:26] <NotSulla> Speaking of which tmb, I would really appreciate knowing what my ratio is one of these days
[21:30:39] <NotSulla> Bytram coolguy that he is gave me an update a while back
[21:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSulla, 40:1, same as my weedeater
[21:30:55] <AzumaHazuki> in theory we have enough mod points floating around. in practice they don't get used because hurr hurr politics
[21:31:17] <AzumaHazuki> let's face it, we have a lot of people not much better than him on this site. looks like the ass end of 8chan without the CP sometimes
[21:32:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> sometimes. sometimes not. depends on the story and who's around.
[21:32:12] <NotSulla> Could be worse, we could have people from /pol/
[21:32:43] <NotSulla> It seems balanced. For every eth we have a arist
[21:32:48] <AzumaHazuki> what makes you think we don't?
[21:32:50] <NotSulla> CO is pretty offputting though
[21:33:11] <AzumaHazuki> VLM and J-Mo are actual sociopaths. I can feel the hollow metallic darkness across the internet
[21:33:23] <AzumaHazuki> there is something deeply and disturbingly wrong with those two
[21:33:42] <NotSulla> If vlm and jmo are then so is deathmonkey and arist
[21:33:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, anyway, official revised ruling from your overpaid SN corporate overlords: reread the mod faq and cool your heels for a week instead of six months since there likely wasn't malice happening. we all know your malice tends to be a bit more nuclear than that.
[21:34:03] <NotSulla> Arist says everyone supporting business is a fascist, thats pretty far gone
[21:34:25] <NotSulla> Wtf
[21:34:34] <NotSulla> I should have raised more hit over my mod ban
[21:34:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSulla, pffft, you're more fun to abuse.
[21:34:56] <AzumaHazuki> Uzzard, i have news: if I were actually malicious, there would be a lot more shit going down than me coming into IRC and bitching
[21:34:58] <NotSulla> wow rude
[21:35:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, yeah, that's what i said.
[21:35:22] <AzumaHazuki> smart bird :v
[21:35:23] <NotSulla> Man this third kid is great, so far like no crying
[21:35:33] <NotSulla> Only been six hours but things are looking quiet
[21:35:42] <AzumaHazuki> and now I am off to go see said apartment and get the cat high as fuck off the 'nip
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[21:36:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit, i can't count. 30th is a week from now, right?
[21:36:34] <NotSulla> I think
[21:36:42] <NotSulla> 23+7 should be 30
[21:36:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept it started on the 19th
[21:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> so 26th?
[21:37:31] <chromas> It adds up
[21:37:46] * chromas did the math on a window just like in the movies
[21:37:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt add it up violent femmes
[21:37:50] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[21:38:07] <upstart> ^ 03Add it up - Violent Femmes - YouTube
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[21:39:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> chromas: did your monitor act like a projector like it does in the movies, so we could read what your screen said on your face?
[21:39:46] <chromas> Yes
[21:40:03] <chromas> And the answer came one digit at a time while the rest cycled through all the possible values
[21:40:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> as well it should
[21:40:23] <chromas> I also pressed Lockout Changes
[21:41:11] <chromas> So what happens if I modbomb with Spam? Do I get punished for invalid spam mods or for modboming?
[21:41:34] <NotSulla> Try it and see
[21:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram comes over to your house and does QA on all your electronic devices.
[21:42:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i gots shit to do. don't think i'll be back until i get off the road tomorrow.
[21:43:25] <chromas> Please don't QA my devices. They're fragile and might start a fire.
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[21:44:52] <NotSulla> Cya
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