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[00:12:31] <Deucalion> ~weather
[00:12:33] <exec> 10London, UK - currently 57°F / 14°C, clear, wind W at 10 mph, humidity 73% - Saturday clear (50°F:70°F / 10°C:21°C), Sunday scattered showers (52°F:66°F / 11°C:19°C), Monday cloudy (53°F:65°F / 12°C:18°C), Tuesday rain (51°F:61°F / 11°C:16°C)
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[05:05:04] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, United States, 17°C/62°F, 10:05 pm GMT-7, Saturday, 3 June 2017
[05:05:14] <Ethanol-fueled> The Religion of Peace strikes again!
[05:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe I can cure my being bummed out about that by watching Antifa get the shit beat out of them in Portland tomorrow.
[05:05:54] <Ellenor> You sure it's the Cult of so-called Peace?
[05:06:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Every one I've met was an asshole
[05:07:06] <Ellenor> Ethanol-fueled: maybe you're the asshole then
[05:07:23] <Ethanol-fueled> I had some as roommates once. Always yelling at each other like monkeys, snorting coke and praising Allah afterward, and laughing about how their women get it in the ass to technically stay virgins.
[05:07:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Ellenor, I am an asshole. And a prick, and an obtuse lout.
[05:08:05] <Ethanol-fueled> But I can at least behave when I have to. Muslims cannot, they are more animal than man.
[05:08:17] <Ellenor> Ethanol-fueled: Your roommates were just bizarre people
[05:08:22] <Ellenor> Muslims or not
[05:08:42] <Ethanol-fueled> One of those fuckers ate my pizza too
[05:08:55] <Ellenor> Pretty sure the only thing different between that and "I had some frat bros as roommates once" is that they don't care about virginity, and they didn't praise God in Arabic.
[05:09:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Set the fucker up by eating the pizza except for the crusts, then putting the pizza box in the fridge
[05:09:10] <Ellenor> You had frat bro roommates, who happened to be muslims
[05:09:25] <Ethanol-fueled> You're not gonna convince me.
[05:09:26] <Ellenor> You had frat bro roommates, who happened to be muslims
[05:09:35] <Ellenor> If facts won't convince you, you're dumb.
[05:09:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Yep, I'm dumb, dumb dumb!
[05:10:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I mean, dumb, dumb, dumb -- wasn't calling you a dumb-dumb
[05:12:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, It's terrible what happened -- but at least it will stoke anti-Islamic sentiment in the U.S. and validate Trump's travel bans.
[05:13:28] * Ethanol-fueled eats a big, juicy baconator
[05:15:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Let those fuckers try to attack San Diego -- it will be open season on them!
[05:16:20] <Ethanol-fueled> We got a lotta fuckin' armed hicks around here, not including the huge military presence.
[05:16:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Their home-base in Clairmont will be baconated and burned down to the ground, then baconated again!
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[05:48:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Europe Wants ~8000 Towns to Have Free WiFi Gear; Will Spend €120M - http://sylnt.us - liberté,-égalité,-connectivité
[06:05:41] <pinchy> mmm bacon
[07:26:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - President Trump's Infrastructure Proposals to Include Privatization of Air-Traffic Control - http://sylnt.us - private-but-not-free
[08:49:58] <Ellenor> all trump news should be from the covfefe department
[08:49:59] <FatPhil> I notice that so far only one world leader has sent a message of support that included references to his big imaginary sky fairy friend.
[08:50:15] <Ellenor> FatPhil: ?
[08:50:34] <FatPhil> Which bit do you not understand?
[08:50:57] <FatPhil> context? London.
[08:52:13] <Ellenor> FatPhil: reword the whole thing
[08:52:32] <Ellenor> i have Ethanol on ignore :P
[08:52:38] <Runaway1956> London? Time to deport all the Muslims, isn't it?
[08:53:08] <Runaway1956> nevermind which ones were born in the UK - or anywhere else
[08:53:10] <FatPhil> I notice that so far only one world leader has sent a message of support that included references to his deity.
[08:53:21] <Ellenor> Runaway1956: wtf
[08:53:44] <Ellenor> Time to defund Saudi Arabia. Too bad the US won't.
[08:53:44] <Runaway1956> WTF do you mean, WTF?
[08:53:53] <FatPhil> If you can't work out that a big imaginary sky fairy friend is a deity, then you're gonna find it hard keeping up.
[08:53:56] <Runaway1956> I'll go with that too
[08:53:57] <Ellenor> Addicted to OPEC oil.
[08:54:09] <Ellenor> FatPhil: i got it
[08:54:11] <FatPhil> ~gday Runaway1956
[08:54:13] * exec casually ships a raid 0 volume of windows with Runaway1956
[08:54:23] <Runaway1956> g'day fatphil
[08:54:37] <Runaway1956> see a muslim, shoot a muslim I always say
[08:54:52] <Ellenor> Runaway1956: Muslims aren't the problem. The problem is radical <ideology> terrorism.
[08:55:07] <FatPhil> The problem is the god delusion, and I don't mean the book.
[08:55:16] <Ellenor> <Ideology> could be islam, or in your case, conservatism.
[08:55:56] <Runaway1956> You probably are laboring under the mistaken idea that Islam is a "religion"
[08:56:14] <FatPhil> It is obviously a religion
[08:56:42] <FatPhil> Right from the start religions were methods of populace control
[08:56:50] <Runaway1956> No, Islam is a total way of life, complete with politics, judiciary, taxation, everything
[08:57:02] <Runaway1956> it is totalitarianism in it's most pure form
[08:57:06] <Ellenor> Runaway1956: Catholicism was too, once
[08:57:14] <FatPhil> Judeism too
[08:57:24] <Runaway1956> with Rome, close, but not quite
[08:57:34] <Ellenor> Authoritarian socialism, Juche thought, etc.
[08:57:36] <Runaway1956> with Judaism, closer yet, but still not quite there
[08:57:54] <FatPhil> They're all Abrahamic
[08:57:56] <Ellenor> Ideology is ideology
[08:58:10] <Runaway1956> Again, close but no cigar
[08:58:34] <Ellenor> Runaway1956: You sound dangerously like Hitler speaking about the Jews
[08:58:38] <Runaway1956> Islam only became Abrahamaic AFTER Moo-hamed decided that he wanted the Jew's support
[08:58:52] <Ellenor> What lies.
[08:59:00] <Runaway1956> You're the one who said Judaism is totalitarian, not I
[08:59:26] <Ellenor> Muhammat was first a pagan, then a Jew, then a Christian, probably, then a Muslim
[08:59:39] <Ellenor> get your shit straight
[09:00:15] <Runaway1956> Mohammed was a piece of shit, very much like Hitler, who took on the trappings of any belief, when he thought it would advance his cuase
[09:01:49] <FatPhil> Given that I beleive information has a half-life, I wouldn't even be surprised if there were two mohammeds, his early writings are nothing like his later writings.
[09:02:36] <FatPhil> His early writings are like the less offensive bits in the old-testament, but his later writings are like to more rapey and murdery bits of the OT.
[09:02:38] <Runaway1956> I read a sci-fi/fantasy story that explains that nicely
[09:03:00] <Runaway1956> in the early days, an angel talked to Moo-hamed, in the later days, a demon talked to him
[09:03:11] <Runaway1956> it would be easy to believe that story
[09:03:50] <FatPhil> He was in a different political context later, society was different.
[09:04:05] <Runaway1956> sorry, but bullshit
[09:04:17] <Runaway1956> he took on the trappings necessary to advance his cause
[09:04:21] <FatPhil> Que?
[09:04:48] <Runaway1956> Moohamed believed in moohamed, everything else was a lie
[09:04:50] <FatPhil> It was an entirely different sociopolicital context. That's undeniable.
[09:05:08] <Runaway1956> It is deniable
[09:05:43] <Runaway1956> He traveled from city to city, telling whichever story would make the locals like him
[09:06:20] <Runaway1956> when he wanted the Jews to like him, he added Abraham into his belief system
[09:07:14] <Runaway1956> Moohamed was a better Anthony Weiner than Anthony Weiner is, LMAO
[09:09:45] <Runaway1956> Something that should always be remembered when discussing religion, is Occam's razor
[09:10:22] <FatPhil> I do not deny that whoever wrote those passages wrote them for the local audience. What I said was that the local audience, and local state of affairs (regarding war) was different over time,
[09:10:38] <Runaway1956> don't attribute some fool's belief to divine intervention, when simple greed and lust explains everything nicely
[09:11:22] <Runaway1956> The local audience changed, but the man telling the lies didn't change
[09:11:24] <FatPhil> If you can extract "Mohammed was always entirely ideologically consistent" from "12:03 <+FatPhil> He was in a different political context later, society was different." then you're quite frankly delusional.
[09:11:53] <Runaway1956> he was a cold calculation manipulative bastard
[09:12:04] <FatPhil> crickets.wav
[09:12:50] <Runaway1956> Society hadn't changed so very much
[09:13:11] <Runaway1956> it hasn't changed that much from then, til today
[09:13:23] <Runaway1956> the baddest bastard with the most hired thugs rules
[09:15:45] <FatPhil> But he didn't have the most hired thugs, his group was put-upon and suffering, that's why his writing was aggressive.
[09:16:35] <FatPhil> If you believe he even existed. There are schools of thougth that say there's no more corroborated evidence for his existence than there was for the christian Jesus.
[09:17:08] <Runaway1956> Both men existed - of that I am sure
[09:19:12] <FatPhil> I've never read the islamic revisionists' tracts, but I've read plenty about the historical Jesus, and it seems quite certain that there's really no believable evidence for him at all.
[09:21:03] <FatPhil> Basically because there's nothing in the new testament that isn't just a re-working of a passage from the old testament (in the same order as those readings would appear in the synagogues, which oooh, have a 3 year period), and the non-biblical evidence is either non-existent or faked.
[09:21:05] <Runaway1956> Moohamed believed that Jesus existed - why would you doubt his word?
[09:22:03] <FatPhil> Fucking stupid question, I would have hoped that would have been below you.
[09:22:14] <Runaway1956> LMAO
[09:22:49] <Runaway1956> They were contemporaries, about 400 years apart, weren't they?
[09:23:24] <Runaway1956> what's more, they talked to the same angels
[09:23:51] <FatPhil> Yes, and they also both slept furiously
[09:24:02] <Runaway1956> LOL
[09:24:40] <FatPhil> And if you don't know that that predicate refers to, go look it up before posting more drivel here, please.
[09:25:05] <FatPhil> You come over as the kind of person who wouldn't recognise it.
[09:25:13] <Runaway1956> Phil - the drivel consists of claims that Islam is a religion just like any other religion
[09:25:26] <Runaway1956> Islam is and always has been a totalitarian system
[09:25:38] <Runaway1956> there is no room in it for anyone who is "different"
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[09:26:31] <FatPhil> Ditto the hassidim.
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[09:27:09] <Runaway1956> Mmmmmm - once again, I say you are close, but not on target
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[09:27:14] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 13°C/55°F, 6:27 am GMT-3, Sunday, 4 June 2017
[09:27:36] <FatPhil> I don't want to be any where near your target, your target is way off.
[09:28:38] <Runaway1956> That's cool - but don't expect me to respect an opinion that Islam is somehow "equal" to the older Abramamic religions
[09:29:13] <FatPhil> Whom are you quoting, when you put "equal" in quotes?
[09:29:46] <FatPhil> You are creating crappy straw men out of tinder and then flailing around with a flame thrower
[09:29:57] <Runaway1956> it doesn't designate a quote
[09:30:25] <Runaway1956> it is a mocking reference to people's attitudes
[09:30:25] <FatPhil> Yes, which makes your statement a complete straw man.
[09:30:50] <FatPhil> make that argument against those "people", not with me.
[09:31:08] <Runaway1956> It's not a strawman - our last president attempted to paint Islam as equal
[09:31:49] <Runaway1956> And, I presume that you've heard of CAIR
[09:33:46] <FatPhil> Go have an argument with your last president, then.
[09:35:36] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[09:35:37] <upstart> ^ 03Muslim Leader Admits Islam Not a Religion of Peace - YouTube
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[10:12:25] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[10:12:25] <upstart> ^ 03Hey could you turn that down? - Album on Imgur
[10:35:06] <FatPhil> nice
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[12:46:22] <chromas> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[12:46:24] <upstart> ^ 03Telling women not to drink during pregnancy 'sexist'
[12:46:43] <chromas> is the telegraph considered fake news?
[12:46:52] <chromas> like daily bail?
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[13:04:18] <Bytram> coffree++
[13:04:18] <Bender> karma - coffree: 1
[13:04:20] <Bytram> !uid
[13:04:20] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6616, owned by POTUS
[13:04:26] <Bytram> ~time x
[13:04:29] <exec> Sunday, 4 June 2017 @ 1:04 pm UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[13:04:40] <Bytram> ~join #fite
[13:04:53] <Bytram> ~weather presq
[13:04:55] <exec> 10Presque Isle, ME, United States - currently 54°F, cloudy, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 81% - Sunday partly cloudy (44°F:64°F), Monday cloudy (40°F:64°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (41°F:66°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (46°F:72°F)
[13:04:59] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[13:05:00] <exec> 10Portland, ME, United States - currently 64°F, mostly cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 62% - Sunday mostly cloudy (51°F:69°F), Monday showers (47°F:54°F), Tuesday showers (46°F:57°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (47°F:61°F)
[13:05:03] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:05:05] <exec> 10Boston, MA, United States - currently 65°F, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 8 mph, humidity 58% - Sunday rain (55°F:72°F), Monday showers (50°F:57°F), Tuesday showers (50°F:52°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (48°F:57°F)
[13:05:09] <Bytram> ~weather baltimore
[13:05:11] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, United States - currently 69°F, mostly sunny, wind S at 4 mph, humidity 67% - Sunday partly cloudy (70°F:88°F), Monday scattered showers (65°F:78°F), Tuesday scattered showers (58°F:73°F), Wednesday cloudy (56°F:67°F)
[13:05:12] <Bytram> ~weather miami
[13:05:14] <exec> 10Miami, FL, United States - currently 80°F, cloudy, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 85% - Sunday cloudy (79°F:83°F), Monday scattered thunderstorms (78°F:86°F), Tuesday thunderstorm (79°F:86°F), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (76°F:86°F)
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[17:55:31] <pinchy> welcome to political newz
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[21:08:35] <pinchy> dang i wanted to meet some lesbos on my nextr trip to china
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[21:29:15] <exec> welcome nick: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 12°C/53°F, 6:29 pm GMT-3, Sunday, 4 June 2017
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