#Soylent | Logs for 2017-05-26
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[23:50:20] <charon_> it's far more amusing to imagine the cronjobs hanging out and one asking how to get ahold of you since you hadn't responded for 3 years. but somewhat inaccurate, no doubt
[23:45:13] <mechanicjay> my guess is that it just hasn't been able to write the file for 3 years but returned success, but a recent perl update caused an actual program exception to be thrown, hence the emails.
[23:36:20] <mechanicjay> I have no idea -- I also don't really care.
[23:30:52] <charon_> how'd that happen? did another cronjob give this one your email address?
[23:04:39] <mechanicjay> a cronjob started emailing me errors today. Turns out it last successfully ran 3 years ago -- it's just been silently failing for 3 years.
[23:03:32] <mechanicjay> when good cronjobs go bad.
[22:51:54] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 14°C/58°F, 7:51 pm GMT-3, Friday, 26 May 2017
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[22:37:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vermont DMV Caught Illegally Using Facial Recognition Program - http://sylnt.us - it's-okay-so-long-as-you-don't-get-caught?
[22:32:06] <chromas> We all knew about the hollow moon, time cube and nasa's fisheye view of the flat earth centuries before they even existed
[22:30:08] <chromas> Sometimes.
[22:30:04] <chromas> Could the government keep secrets before the age of wikileaks and shadow brokers?
[21:17:06] <charon_> does-a-betteridge-shit-in-the-woods?
[21:06:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Can the Government Keep Secrets in the Age of WikiLeaks and Shadow Brokers? - http://sylnt.us - see-what-I-did-there?
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[19:37:40] <mechanicjay> haha, nice
[19:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windows 10 China Government Edition Launched - http://sylnt.us - all-your-base
[19:36:30] <upstart> ^ 03Knight Rider Theme Song (Intro Instrumental/Original) - Stu Phillips - YouTube
[19:36:29] <Xyem> https://www.youtube.com
[19:34:35] * Xyem cues the music
[19:34:26] <Xyem> ##KnightRider. A shadowy /connect into the /idle world of a #chan, which does not /identify.
[19:15:03] <mechanicjay> Knight Rider. A Shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man, who does not exist.
[19:14:04] <mechanicjay> and ultimately nothing went anywhere.
[19:13:57] <mechanicjay> and some other people were like "stupid hipster chat programs!"
[19:13:42] <mechanicjay> and I was like, freenode!
[19:13:34] <mechanicjay> haha, no I set it up a while ago when folks on the Knight Rider online forum were like, we should have a chat!
[19:12:26] <Xyem> or did you want me to get them to all join ##KnightRider? :)
[19:02:42] <mechanicjay> lol, fine.
[18:44:48] <Xyem> I'll pass that on, thanks.
[18:38:08] * mechanicjay has a ##KnightRider channel that no one ever joins into.
[18:37:50] <mechanicjay> lots of projects have channels there, but it's not specific for that.
[18:34:29] <Xyem> Are they okay with just casual hangout? I thought that was for open source projects..
[18:32:58] <mechanicjay> freenode is kind the big one
[18:32:13] <Xyem> Would anyone have any suggestions for an IRC network a group of my friends can make a channel on and hang out in?
[17:56:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Books Opens in New York City - http://sylnt.us - "bound"-to-happen-someday
[17:34:07] <mechanicjay> damnit -- I was clever when I wrote this date math checking routing last week. I must have gotten dumber in the last week.
[16:27:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Duterte Declares Martial Law in Southern Philippines - http://sylnt.us
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[15:12:59] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 14°C/57°F, 8:12 am GMT-7, Friday, 26 May 2017
[15:12:59] <exec> welcome mechanicjay: Seattle, WA, USA, 14°C/57°F, 8:12 am GMT-7, Friday, 26 May 2017
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[14:58:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why American Workers Now Dress So Casually - http://sylnt.us - optional-nerd-glasses
[13:17:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Massive DNA Collection Campaign in Xinjiang, China - http://sylnt.us - what-comes-next?
[12:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, down to 32 errors and time for some breakfast n vidya
[12:39:48] <Bytram> this time for sure!
[12:39:44] <upstart> ^ 03During a hospital stay, all microbial hell breaks loose on you and the walls | Ars Technica
[12:39:42] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[12:39:19] <Bytram> laters
[12:39:18] <Bytram> and Ineeds to get ready for work...
[12:38:56] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 409
[12:38:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:38:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:38:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i can't be arsed to have a complex proxy system set up that only works with some of my traffic
[12:38:33] <Bytram> at least it is open, so autditing and self-repair/patching is *possible* vs proprietary options.
[12:37:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's always gonna be bugs but openvpn is the most trustworthy vpn software out there.
[12:37:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> And with the FoxyProxy extension, you can actually proxy only SOME sites, or run multiple proxies and switch between them easily.
[12:36:53] <upstart> ^ 03Last week: 'OpenVPN client is secure!'This week: 'Unpatched bug in OpenVPN server' • The Register
[12:36:50] <Bytram> https://www.theregister.co.uk
[12:36:50] <Bytram> be carful what you use to implement the VPN, though:
[12:36:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:36:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> If you're willing to use a SOCKS5 proxy instead of a VPN, Firefox has an option to route DNS over the proxy as well.
[12:36:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ideally though you want enough people on a vpn server to mask quantity as well.
[12:35:25] <Bytram> seems like it would be worth submitting as a story... got a lot of discussion right off the bat here!
[12:35:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure
[12:34:59] <Bytram> dns requests coming out of the box, no?
[12:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope. unless they seize the server they can't tell what's being routed to who.
[12:34:31] <Bytram> but you do NOT want em running all over the likes of TPB, etc
[12:34:13] <Bytram> right?
[12:34:06] <Bytram> nah, you wants 'em to use other stuff, too, o/w your traffic sticks out like a sore thumb
[12:33:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. preferably ones that only use facebook and gmail.
[12:33:34] <Bytram> and hope nobody is a hog and exceeds your bandwidth cap.
[12:33:11] <Bytram> so, set it up and share it with 10 or 100 of your closest friends?
[12:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm saying an unshared vpn server is roughly the same as not using a vpn at all
[12:31:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> seems like TheMightyBuzzard is saying it would work right up until the point that somebody bothered to investigate.
[12:31:02] * Bytram is confused and undercaffienated
[12:30:51] <Bytram> so now you are saying it *would* work?
[12:30:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> but if only you ever get to log in to a vpn server and they sniff the vpn server's traffic, you're busted.
[12:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, a shared vpn server would be fine. no need to go the mess that is TOR
[12:28:57] <Bytram> there has to be a connection from you to the VPN, and from the VPN to the destination... connect the dots -- or she with lots of other folks == TOR
[12:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> building your own vpn makes it dead easy to trace it back to you unless you share it with others.
[12:27:07] <upstart> ^ 03How to build your own VPN if you’re (rightfully) wary of commercial options | Ars Technica
[12:27:05] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[12:27:02] <Bytram> ahhh, a new one!
[12:26:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 6608, owned by hotsushi
[12:26:55] <Bytram> !uid
[12:26:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3458
[12:26:50] <Bytram> coffee++
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[12:17:13] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:17:01] <boru> You might say you're...galvanising it.
[12:16:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh it still ain't mature. i've already had to send one patch in for noobass mistakes in the underlying irc library and i need to send another in still.
[12:14:27] <boru> I'll diff when you push to grok the improvements. I haven't touched Rust again since the early days when the compiler would segfault, so it'd be nice to take a look again now that it's matured.
[12:13:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> 0.1.0 has massive amounts of unnecessary memory duplication and functions that take way too many args.
[12:11:43] <boru> Smashing. Thanks.
[12:11:22] <upstart> ^ 03GitHub - TheMightyBuzzard/RustBot: The third iteration of MrPlow on irc.SoylentNews.org, written in Rust. Version one was perl and took up too much ram. Version two was C and corrupted too much ram.
[12:11:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com is where it'll be when i get done with it.
[12:10:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> only the 0.1.0 source which is what is running now. haven't pushed the 0.2.0 code up cause it don't compile yet.
[12:08:49] <boru> Is the source up anywhere? Wouldn't mind having a look at some decent Rust code, which might motivate me to take a look at it again.
[12:06:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> taking advantage of all the stuff i learned since picking up rust to make his code suck less noob ass.
[12:05:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, refactoring most of his code
[12:05:34] <boru> Ah. Still in Rust?
[12:05:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> MrPlow
[12:05:18] <boru> What're you building?
[12:04:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays! down to 36 compile errors!
[11:50:37] <FatPhil> Up the anomalous dichromats! Trichromats suck!
[11:45:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vermont Recreational Cannabis Bill Vetoed with Changes Recommended - http://sylnt.us - up-in-smoke
[11:43:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> (I see colors, but not the same way as most people)
[11:43:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> most of which I fail at because I have anonalous trichromacy
[11:42:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> reminds me of the Ishihara test patterns for colorblindness
[11:39:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, that's probably it - that looks like the same logo
[11:39:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> the google-fu is strong with me
[11:39:10] <upstart> ^ 03Osmosis API | ProgrammableWeb
[11:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> this maybe? https://www.programmableweb.com
[11:34:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> I *really* don't want to connect one of our servers to Dropbox, that just seems like inviting trouble.
[11:33:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> ... can promise that we'll let you know as soon as it is!"
[11:33:18] <Xyem> "osmosis software" is about as vague too. Funtimes.
[11:33:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> When I put in a support request about lack of FTP functionality, I got back a message saying "You're not the only one to ask for FTP support like this! This would require an "FTP by Zapier" tool. Unfortunately, we don't have any plans to implement this quite yet as we have other priorities on our roadmap, but I've gone ahead and added your vote to a standing request for this feature. While I can't say for certain when this will get added I ...
[11:31:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> Also, some of the things that they integrate are hard to search the for web to find out what they are. I mean, what do they think is going to happen when I google "Osmosis"?
[11:31:36] <Xyem> Perhaps it is a security thing?
[11:30:56] <Xyem> FTP is more than 2 years old and isn't a company.
[11:30:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> So is Dropbox, but they support that.
[11:30:20] <Xyem> AndyTheAbsurd: FTP is more than 2 years old.
[11:28:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> man, this "connect your apps" supports every dog-damned newfangled web service you can think of (and probably several dozen more you've never heard of)... but can't send a file via FTP. WTF?
[11:27:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> which means i gotta refactor every function just about.
[11:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> moving away from passing way too many arguments to functions for data that really needs to be in an atomic, reference counted mutex
[11:25:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:24:34] <Xyem> Ah yeah, it's in Rust, right?
[11:23:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, a LOT of refactoring still needs to be done on him and i'm still not entirely sure how i wanna do it.
[11:22:43] <Xyem> Also, morning TMB.
[11:22:19] <Xyem> Were you planning on working on MrPlow?
[11:19:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i'm not feelin the bot coding this morning
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[10:59:25] <Xyem> Good just-about-to-turn-afternoon to you, n1.
[10:49:53] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 14°C/57°F, 7:49 am GMT-3, Friday, 26 May 2017
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[10:28:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3457
[10:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:17:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - $500 DJI Spark Drone can Take Off and Land from Your Palm - http://sylnt.us - does-that-make-this-a-palm-pilot?
[08:43:56] <boru> "You won't believe these 10 things coming up in Ubuntu Coprophagic Koala!"
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[08:36:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Distro Watch for Ubuntu Lovers: What's Ahead in Linux Land - http://sylnt.us - devuan!
[08:03:11] * chromas forks devuan but includes systemd
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[07:52:39] <boru> Like Debian, they're probably three decades behind. Expect to see bittorrent technology in the project in 2037.
[07:51:30] <chromas> but how do they not have a torrent?
[07:49:57] <chromas> ooh, they got a logo
[07:09:13] <upstart> ^ 03Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System
[07:09:11] <Bytram> https://devuan.org
[07:06:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Devuan Stable Release -- at Last! - http://sylnt.us - good-luck
[05:25:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nebula Award Winners Announced - http://sylnt.us - read-'em-and...-beep?
[03:57:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Warship Challenges China's Claims in South China Sea - http://sylnt.us - sabre-rattling
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