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[23:35:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blockchain to be Used for Trading Gold - http://sylnt.us - that's-as-good-as-money-sir-those-are-IOUs
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[17:26:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Testable Theory That the Speed of Light is NOT Constant - http://sylnt.us - warp-factor-3-mr-sulu
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[15:59:37] <MrPlow> #fite chromas falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[15:58:11] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[15:58:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite chromas
[15:56:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks Releases 500k US Cables - http://sylnt.us - great-game-to-grand-chessboard
[15:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> as long as i can do SOME violence to him
[15:00:57] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[15:00:53] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a limp carrot
[15:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[15:00:43] <MrPlow> #fite chromas's corpse is currently rotting on the ground. Try fighting someone who's alive.
[15:00:43] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[15:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite chromas
[15:00:35] * TheMightyBuzzard sneaks in on his laptop while his new desktop install updates
[14:15:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Macintosh Endgame - http://sylnt.us - year-of-the-linux-desktop
[14:06:27] <chromas> oh no, his job process died in the background
[14:05:48] <chromas> "There are no suitable jobs"
[14:05:33] <chromas> fg
[13:55:35] * boru &
[13:55:33] <boru> Aye, I've got to run for a bit, as well.
[13:55:21] <Bytram|away> ok, gtg. laters!
[13:55:19] <FatPhil> boru: I'm also blessed with absolutely no short term memory, so my corpus may be filled by noise eventually.
[13:55:07] <Bytram|away> viel dank!
[13:55:02] <Bytram|away> ich habe nuhr drei jahhren in unsere art Gymnasium gestudiert, aber ich oft mit Deutshe volk sprechen am arbiet
[13:54:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram|away: "du haßt" which can also be spelled "du hasst" is "you hate" in English. "du hast" is "you have". Thus the lyrics to Rammstein's "Du Hast" are ambiguous. "Du hasst mich" would be "You hate me" but "Du hast mich gefragt" is "You asked me".
[13:53:58] <boru> So you're some sort of toilet oracle?
[13:53:40] <FatPhil> I am notorious for my ability to last a long time before needing to go, so I'll be watching everyone else and have the best corpus of information to draw my conclusions from.
[13:53:19] <Bytram|away> ich habe, du hast, er habt, wir haben, ihr habt, sie haben... nicht wahr?
[13:52:51] * boru shall watch where he walks when in close proximity to FatPhil...
[13:52:31] <Bytram|away> lol
[13:52:24] <FatPhil> Bytram|away: we're male, pretty much everywhere is the loo
[13:52:23] <Bytram|away> nod nod
[13:52:19] <boru> Monkey see, monkey do.
[13:52:16] <Bytram|away> AndyTheAbsurd: what's the difference between "du haßt" and "du hast"?
[13:52:07] <boru> Watch where other people get up and go to.
[13:52:00] <Bytram|away> lol
[13:51:55] <boru> Unnecessary. That only requires observation.
[13:51:41] <Bytram|away> only got a minute, can't chat as am on my way to work
[13:51:24] <Bytram|away> boru: I would argue that after you learn how to ask for a pint at the pub, you should know how to ask for where is the loo. ;)
[13:48:07] <boru> I had a look, but I get a TLS error (no cipher overlap); technical incompetence + paywall == get news elsewhere.
[13:44:31] <FatPhil> anyone know a quick way of getting wsj.com to give you the whole story rather than just a teaser
[13:42:28] * cmn32480 runs for the custoemr site
[13:21:13] <boru> To sufficiently get by in any country, all you need are to be able to ask for a pint at the pub, and to chat up the birds.
[13:20:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> But I know the difference between "du haßt" and "du hast".
[13:19:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I took German in high school. I didn't learn that much of it (US high school, so what do you expect?) and I graduated 20 years ago, so I only remember a bit of it.
[13:17:55] <boru> I'm currently learning German, but good guess!
[13:17:39] <exec> └─ 13Online Etymology Dictionary
[13:17:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.etymonline.com
[13:17:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> From Yiddish, and German before that, according to a quick Google search for "zaftig etymology"
[13:14:59] <boru> That sounds like it has German origin. Some derivation of 'juicy' perhaps?
[13:14:26] <cmn32480> zaftig: (of a female body) healthily plump and vigorous
[13:14:25] <cmn32480> Zaftig Zebu
[13:14:25] <boru> Where's the fun in that?
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[13:13:57] <exec> └─ 13Adjectives that Start with Z
[13:13:56] <cmn32480> http://adjectivesstarting.com
[13:13:48] <exec> └─ 13AdjectivesStarting.com - A list of Adjectives by their starting letter
[13:13:46] <cmn32480> http://adjectivesstarting.com
[13:13:25] <cmn32480> there is actually a website that provides a list of adjectives starting with different letters
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[12:43:33] <chromas> Quasi Queerkin
[12:40:11] <boru> Quasidimensional Quinticlave. That solves 'Q', at least.
[12:39:00] <boru> Flora and fauna are many.
[12:38:39] <boru> Instruments are harder, I think.
[12:37:55] <boru> Zionist Zebu Free Palestine Remix.
[12:37:49] <chromas> Small Saxophone
[12:36:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or name the distro releases after musical instruments - Zany Zither.
[12:35:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> Zany Zebu, just because almost no one knows WTF a zebu is.
[12:33:48] <boru> I am certain I could write a script to do this.
[12:33:06] <boru> That does actually sound like a n00buntu release.
[12:32:50] <chromas> Zany Zebra
[12:32:22] <boru> Tautological/redundant, I know.
[12:31:57] <boru> Zoological Zebra?
[12:31:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can't think of adjectives that start with Z though
[12:31:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> should go backwards, just to fuck with people
[12:29:06] <boru> Archetypical Aeroplane?
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[12:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> back later. it's new distro time.
[12:27:06] * exec ceremoniously offers a crust of maple syrup to cmn32480
[12:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday cmn32480
[12:25:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3055
[12:25:49] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:25:48] * exec defiantly gives birth to a tower of coke for TheMightyBuzzard
[12:25:47] <cmn32480> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:24:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> (Oddly enough, this is not a euphimism.)
[12:24:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> LOOK AT HIS TINY SAXOPHONE.
[12:24:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.tampabay.com
[12:17:44] <boru> Dead on, man. Catch you later.
[12:16:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho. it's smoke time then reboot this beastie into whatever usb stick i grab. yack at yall later.
[12:14:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> only exception being occasionally you will have a server that just sits and does its job quietly where management can't see it.
[12:14:28] <boru> Well, unlike Linux, you needn't be so granular when selecting modules.
[12:13:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> then i realized you are ALWAYS going to want to add some oddball piece of kit to an install at some point or other.
[12:13:46] <boru> (Saving you actually installing it, of course)
[12:13:25] <boru> Well, you could boot a live system and see if it finds everything to your satisfaction in dmesg.
[12:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i used to do that when i was a wee nipper
[12:12:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> will try that later then once i get my desktop back up and happy.
[12:12:56] <boru> I don't usually use GENERIC because I hate bloaty kernels, and compile with only the stuff I use.
[12:12:29] <boru> Using GENERIC, probably, yeah.
[12:12:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:12:13] <boru> Which? FreeBSD?
[12:12:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> so yer saying if i stuck it on an old laptop it would find and support all the hardware on it?
[12:11:06] <boru> ANd that's running Gentoo, since it supports all manner of weird targets that I own.
[12:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i occasionally use some chincy, oddball hardware and i wanna know it's supported.
[12:10:46] <boru> I tend to buy pretty bleeding edge hw, and I think I've run into a hw support problem perhaps twice on FreeBSD. I've run into it much more on Linux, in fact.
[12:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but if i plug a cat's tail in on linux it will be all like sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk
[12:08:42] <boru> BSD was very, very different 20 years ago.
[12:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, i haven't touched a BSD install in 20 years because of shit hardware support. i want any damn piece of kit you can think of to work six months after it's released.
[12:08:15] <boru> Right, I am going to go and make tea before I bludgeon my manager to death.
[12:07:58] * boru balks
[12:07:54] <chromas> yes
[12:07:37] <boru> Are the two mutually exclusive?
[12:07:22] <chromas> he want graphics
[12:07:12] <boru> Just install BSD and be done with it!
[12:07:07] * chromas creates systemd linux which only uses systemd products
[12:06:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Update Servers Left All Azure RHEL Instances Hackable - http://sylnt.us - lost-my-keys
[12:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> m'kay. first up i think we'll go with... Calculate Linux since it gives you the option of using binary packages or pulling from gentoo's portage tree and utterly lacks systemd
[12:06:20] <boru> In fairness, the LFH standard is worthless, since most of it is optional. "Put stuff here. Maybe. Or not. It doesn't exist!"
[12:04:28] <boru> Ubunbu Pregnant Pagonia Change Directory Remix
[12:04:21] <chromas> but I'll have none of that /var/www nonsense
[12:03:53] * boru chuckles.
[12:03:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> putting files into other directories is not distro-worthy. it is smake-worthy.
[12:03:42] <chromas> /srv/http ? /opt/http ! yay, I'm a distro mamker
[12:03:24] <chromas> plus putting files into other directories
[12:03:19] <boru> They're just userland programs.
[12:03:13] <boru> So is a new window manager.
[12:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> either one alone wouldn't do it but together they're a fairly significant amount of change.
[12:01:34] <boru> Init system, maybe, package manager, no, imho.
[12:01:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> now writing your own init system and package manager puts you firmly into the distro category.
[12:01:17] <boru> Nor a package manager, imho, since you could just run that on whatever you're forking.
[12:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. a new theme on top of ubuntu is not a distro.
[12:00:20] <boru> There often is nothing revolutionary, however.
[12:00:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> if people want it and know about it, you will get devs.
[11:59:51] <boru> Since most of them are just an existing distro with a new package manager, because their silly patch got rejected upstream.
[11:59:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. the only issue is people fail to publicize their revolutionary new distro.
[11:59:05] <boru> It seems like the development effort could be better spent.
[11:58:55] <boru> Especially since most of them get abandoned/half maintained weeks/months later.
[11:58:35] <boru> I'm not convinced that forking linux distros is the best way to do it, though.
[11:57:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. can't wrap free men up in nice little gardens.
[11:56:31] <boru> An entire fractalous, fragmented ecosystem all with their own idiosyncrasies and security vulnerabilities.
[11:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly is. i know we got at least one or two being created by folks in here.
[11:55:42] <boru> It seems like there's a new linux distro every week...
[11:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think they named the distro that just to confuse people
[11:55:30] <boru> I wasn't familiar with the distro.
[11:55:15] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[11:55:13] <boru> I was!
[11:55:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> or were you boo-ing Linux instead of suggesting the hardened gentoo distro?
[11:55:05] <boru> I was boo'ing Linux.
[11:55:00] * boru chuckles.
[11:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> will add it to the list.
[11:53:35] <boru> Boo Linux
[11:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, got two old laptop hdds. going to install linux distros without systemd on them until i'm satisfied with one then going to mount my encrypted /home and start migrating system-wide stuff from old / over to new /
[11:16:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 3054
[11:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[10:38:21] <crutchy> i'm coding js right now. as much as i bash it like everyone else, i still use it and need it
[10:37:31] <u00> was funny reading about the javascript bashing. wish i could join in and smash on it too
[10:36:01] <janrinok> u00, ?
[10:31:21] <u00> echo chamber much?
[10:09:59] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 18°C/64°F, 9:09 pm AEDT, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[09:56:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The End of the "Just Following Orders" Defense? - http://sylnt.us - just-the-bookkeeper-is-no-longer-a-defense
[08:55:09] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/40°F, 9:55 am GMT+1, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[08:47:24] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/40°F, 9:47 am GMT+1, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[08:31:17] <exec> welcome janrinok: Paimpol, France, 4°C/40°F, 9:31 am GMT+1, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[08:26:26] <boru> AndyTheAbsurd; duly noted. I haven't pulled from top of tree, yet, but I'll probably hold off updating, in that case.
[08:26:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Satellite Image Could Change the Way We Build Cities - http://sylnt.us - I've-got-my-infrared-eye-on-you
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[08:07:10] <exec> welcome n1: Montevideo, Montevideo Department, Uruguay, 16°C/61°F, 5:07 am GMT-3, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[06:41:32] <exec> welcome crutchy: Melbourne VIC, 21°C/70°F, 5:41 pm AEDT, Tuesday, 29 November 2016
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[04:08:17] <jasassin> then you get used to it
[04:08:11] <jasassin> then you get mad
[04:07:59] <jasassin> you start out crying
[04:07:19] <jasassin> reality is nothing but an aquired taste
[04:04:21] <jasassin> but since you asked, no and fuck yourself anyway
[04:04:09] <jasassin> if it were me i'd tell you to fuck yourself
[04:03:51] <jasassin> i swear
[04:03:49] <jasassin> it was not me
[04:03:45] <jasassin> i swear to god
[04:03:42] <jasassin> no
[04:03:39] <charon> was it you, tough guy?
[04:03:33] <jasassin> hahhahaha
[04:03:28] <jasassin> hahha
[04:03:24] <charon> wow, i got a troll mod
[04:03:16] <chromas> hot cross buns
[04:02:55] <Subsentient> :^3
[04:02:54] <jasassin> h0t water burn baby
[04:02:35] <chromas> need to vomit to the next power of two
[04:02:27] <Subsentient> yup
[04:02:16] <exec> 0393
[04:02:11] <chromas> ~count channel= nick=Subsentient message=vomit type=action
[04:00:32] * Subsentient sprays chunky vomit all over the floor, ceiling, and walls
[03:55:29] <exec> 03[2014-03-05 23:20:59] #Soylent <Khyber> fairly huge porch
[03:55:26] <chromas> ~random nick=Khyber\|*!
[03:54:28] <exec> 03[2014-03-13 21:56:40] #Soylent <Khyber> BBC has already covered me and one company using my technology
[03:54:25] <chromas> ~last nick=Khyber!
[03:54:24] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a vibrating buttplug
[03:54:24] <cmn32480> #smake chromas
[03:54:15] <chromas> teehee
[03:54:07] <exec> 03[2016-11-28 09:19:0] #Soylent <KhyberLEDson> That ain't right
[03:54:04] <cmn32480> ~last nick=Khyber
[03:46:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Universe's Constants Now Known With Sufficient Certainty to Redefine the Int'l System of Units - http://sylnt.us - getting-their-measure
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[03:18:39] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[03:17:09] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[03:17:09] <cmn32480> #fite TheMightyBuzzard
[03:17:07] * exec faithfully flicks cream of butt butter at TheMightyBuzzard
[03:17:05] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:08:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot, bedtime!
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[01:35:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> boru: Haven't had time/inclination, plus 27.0.0 had tons of problems, so waiting for that shit to quiet down. Also: 27.0.0 removed JetPack support, so a lot of extension broke.
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[00:36:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Develop New Optical Circuit Components to Manipulate Light - http://sylnt.us - see-what-they-did-there?
[00:10:45] <chromas> got a single 500 error. reload and it's gone