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[00:14:51] <chromas> I saw Fled on USA once, where the baldwin guy's wife/girlfriend had a shirt-shaped black censor when she was stripping
[00:39:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robotic Boat Recovered - http://sylnt.us - give-the-builders-props
[01:14:10] * SirFinkus gets grumpy
[01:14:39] <SirFinkus> I orded a game guide for my favorite game of all time, but it only has maps of the areas on disk 2
[01:15:13] <SirFinkus> maybe the original game came with a guide for the first half or something
[01:16:16] <chromas> redneck rampage
[01:16:18] <chromas> ?
[01:16:27] <SirFinkus> doesn't sound like it did
[01:16:30] <SirFinkus> Grandia
[01:16:31] <chromas> not that it had two discs
[01:18:17] <SirFinkus> still a neat collectable thing
[01:18:27] <SirFinkus> looks brand new
[01:18:42] <SirFinkus> even though the book is 20 years old
[01:19:21] <chromas> from back when game guides were useful
[01:19:34] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:19:35] <chromas> now they get updates that invalidate the guide
[01:19:38] <SirFinkus> ya'll jelly as fuck
[01:20:06] <SirFinkus> disclaimer: the thing that says it focus on disc 2 wasn't in the picture on the ebay listing
[01:20:12] <chromas> I have the guide for both discs. Who's gelatin now?
[01:20:35] <SirFinkus> that's just another thing I need to collect
[01:20:43] <chromas> (I don't, but jiggle anyhow)
[01:21:16] <SirFinkus> the second one seems to be pretty good
[01:25:05] <SirFinkus> I guess it includes everything except the last dunegeon/boss
[01:25:06] <SirFinkus> the second book
[01:25:14] <SirFinkus> and not all the skill books and mana eggs
[01:35:05] <SirFinkus> "yippy kai yay my friend!"
[01:53:01] <Bytram> whereto? http://rss.computerworld.com
[01:53:02] <Timmeh> ^ 03HPE wins $3B in lawsuit against Oracle over Itanium | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[01:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://thefederalist.com
[01:54:34] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:55:00] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:10:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Reported Fatal Accident of Tesla Model S Operating in Autopilot Mode - http://sylnt.us - Pay-attention!
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[03:14:16] <chromas> #submit http://threatpost.com
[03:14:16] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[03:14:29] <chromas> still can't compete with Khyber
[03:20:43] <Bytram> ~submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[03:20:45] <exec> error: title not found or empty
[03:32:08] <cmn32480> chromas - AC LED's rock!
[03:41:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Company Claims to Have Invented Biochemical Process for Transmutation of Chemical Elements - http://sylnt.us - turning-lead-into-gold
[04:34:55] <chromas> http://store.steampowered.com
[04:34:58] <Timmeh> ^ 03Save 66% on The Ship: Remasted on Steam
[05:42:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ACLU Drags Feds to Court Challenging Hacking Laws - http://sylnt.us - standing-for-the-good-guys
[05:58:01] <SirFinkus> do people still play the ship?
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[07:14:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Age-Discrimination Suit Against Google - http://sylnt.us - neckbeard's-revenge
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[08:45:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Efforts to Regulate Encryption Have Been Flawed, Government Report Finds - http://sylnt.us - security-vs-security
[09:12:13] <boru> 'Government Report Finds' -- about 40 years too late.
[10:28:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:28:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 2709
[10:33:47] * Subsentient vomits in TheMightyBuzzard's coffee
[10:35:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> *bugs voce* of course you know, this means war
[10:35:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Subsentient
[10:35:29] * MrPlow smakes Subsentient upside the head with a drop of snot in your twat
[10:37:25] * Subsentient summons the flesh eating gerbils upon TheMightyBuzzard
[10:37:57] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs, follows directions, and eats their flesh
[10:39:06] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: see, the thing is, now they'll eat your kidneys from the inside.
[10:39:22] <Subsentient> And your little liver too!
[10:40:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as well, i was only abusing them anyway between the coffee n the booze
[10:40:44] <Subsentient> hehe
[10:40:46] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: sup
[10:41:11] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: what you been up to lately?
[10:41:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, copying all of TNG over to my media serving box
[10:41:46] <Subsentient> ah
[10:42:02] <Subsentient> Ordered a Pi Zero, now I gotta try and get Packrat ready for production before it gets here
[10:42:20] <Subsentient> Packrat = package manager/distro builder
[10:42:30] <chromas> ln -s /bin/pacman /bin/packrat
[10:42:31] <chromas> :D
[10:42:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> been working on comments. only pulling comments underneath top-level comments that should be shown on *this page* for pagination purposes.
[10:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> harder than it sounds
[10:43:09] <chromas> pagination--
[10:43:09] <Bender> karma - pagination: -1
[10:43:13] <Subsentient> Oh yeah, I can definitely see why that'd be an issue.
[10:43:16] <Subsentient> chromas++
[10:43:16] <Bender> karma - chromas: 176
[10:43:24] <Subsentient> I prefer to see all the hordes of comments on one page
[10:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool, just don't expect it to be a stable platform. pis don't have the voltage control that real comps do and it leads to memory errors n crashes n such
[10:44:38] <chromas> Does that mean they generate better random numbers?
[10:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> it may run two weeks just fine but it may also need rebooting three or four times
[10:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, prolly
[10:45:43] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Depends on the Pi tbh. If you run it on undervoltage, it'll do that.
[10:45:47] <Subsentient> I prefer slight overvoltage.
[10:46:01] <Subsentient> like 5.1V DC
[10:46:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine gives me no prollems cause i save nothing on it that can get corrupted except config files and system data.
[10:46:37] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: If you want a stable $20 machine, get one of these: http://pine64.com
[10:46:38] <Timmeh> ^ 03Home - PINE 64
[10:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep the vids n tunes n such on a server shared over ro nfs
[10:46:46] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: My server is now a Pine64.
[10:46:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[10:46:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chagos Islanders Lose Supreme Court Bid to Return to Homeland - http://sylnt.us - home-sweet-airbase
[10:46:49] <Subsentient> They're great.
[10:46:57] <Subsentient> Hasn't crashed on me once
[10:47:00] <Subsentient> performance is good too
[10:47:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> or just use an obsolete desktop box, yeah
[10:47:28] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: But then I can't make it all cute and tiny, and those use a lot of power.
[10:47:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting time to add another 3TB hdd to that one though
[10:47:36] <chromas> old desktops use an extra 5¢/month
[10:47:40] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: The Pine64 is actually really powerful.
[10:48:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, cool. i have too much change anyway.
[10:48:08] <Subsentient> Get the 2GB model, and you're pretty much set. Has 4K video HDMI capability
[10:48:14] <Subsentient> 4 cores too
[10:48:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty
[10:48:18] <Subsentient> brb, fudge
[10:48:36] <chromas> don't forget the lemonade
[10:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i really need is an 8 or 16GB model though for when my desktop shits out
[10:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose i could run a linux box without networking behind a firewall for a while with one of those new intel/amd chips and see what the hw rootkit tries to send to
[10:52:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> if no kernel modules are loaded for it, any traffic originating from it is rogue.
[10:53:28] <chromas> but they KNOW you're watching. that's why it won't so anything until you're already on the internets
[10:53:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, gonna take two hours for this file transfer. i blame wil wheaton. would take less time if they cut out all his scenes.
[10:54:16] <chromas> make a script to replace all his scenes with a loop of "shut up wesley!"
[10:54:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> the best three words ever uttered in a trek franchise, indeed.
[10:57:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh that's funny. someone wrote @wilw a block bot to autoblock anyone who tells him "shut up, wesley"
[10:58:55] <chromas> that's disgusting. they're tweet-raping him
[10:59:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the mouth
[10:59:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> well no, i guess it'd be in the eyes. which is funnier anyway.
[11:05:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:05:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[11:05:19] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 78
[11:05:39] * chromas browses the jewish section of steam
[11:06:20] <chromas> Hm, closed amd driver for this poopadelic laptop needs ancient x and kernel
[11:07:22] <chromas> only the wine version of steam will run on it with the open driver
[11:07:42] <boru> All you need is Quake.
[11:08:13] <chromas> Was there a difference between quake and quake arena? or were they all deathmatch-style?
[11:09:46] <boru> Depends on the arena you're referring to. Ultimately, all you need is Quake+RA+Painkeep or UT+insta. FWIW, UT4 is free and, whilst in pre-alpha, it's infinitely more stable and fun to play than anything else over the last 5-10 years.
[11:09:55] <boru> RA being Rocket Arena, that is.
[11:10:20] <boru> But yes, DM, CTF, TDM etc.
[11:10:52] <chromas> I remember Quake 3 Arena. I wasn't sure if the "arena" made it different from the others. Did they have a story or whatever?
[11:11:10] <boru> Ah, no, that was just the full name of Q3. There was Team Arena, which was an addon.
[11:11:15] <boru> No SP, per se.
[11:11:47] <boru> Quake 1 and 2 had a story (we don't talk about 4), and some really great SP mods.
[11:12:37] <chromas> I don't seem to have any graphical drivers installed on this. I wonder how it's working then
[11:12:43] <boru> If you want a good story, I highly recommend the Stalker series + practically all of the mods made for them.
[11:13:04] <boru> Probably the mesa driver.
[11:13:47] <chromas> ah, that is installed. How does it work without a driver for X?
[11:14:02] <chromas> perhaps that's steam's issue
[11:14:04] <boru> It is a driver for X. It just uses software rendering.
[11:14:11] <chromas> though several games run in wine
[11:15:12] <boru> I keep a winblows box around for gaming. I wouldn't pollute my prestine UNIX boxen with wine.
[11:15:23] <boru> Pristine, rather.
[11:15:42] <boru> There are native Quake and UT ports, though.
[11:15:58] <boru> UT2k3/2k4 shipped with a native client.
[11:16:05] <chromas> a bunch o' windows games have been getting linux ports by way of custom wine packages
[11:16:24] <chromas> saints row 2, 3 & 4, for example
[11:17:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> but but but... you NEED wine! how else are you sposed to get windows viruses to run on *nix?
[11:18:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yes, i'm aware of the redundancy of the word viruses in that sentence
[11:18:53] <chromas> Yeah, because of plurality
[11:19:05] <chromas> one virus is redeundant with another :D
[11:22:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless it's a retrovirus
[11:22:13] <chromas> dems for hipsters
[11:22:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and old people like me
[11:22:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> "i liked it before it was cool" fuck you, i liked it before you were born.
[11:23:18] * boru chuckles.
[11:23:19] <chromas> installing amdgpu driver wants to remove xorg-server
[11:23:25] <chromas> linux--
[11:23:25] <Bender> karma - linux: 9
[11:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ...
[11:23:59] <boru> Wtf. Can you sprunge your Xorg.log?
[11:24:08] <boru> It'd be interesting to see what driver it's loaded.
[11:24:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly vesa
[11:24:31] <boru> Yeah, I suggested it was using mesa.
[11:24:54] <chromas> there's a mesa package installed, but none of the xf86-video-* packages
[11:25:00] <boru> It'd be good to know for certain. Also, what X version? Newer versions are freedesktoppotterix-ified, which autoload drivers.
[11:25:43] * chromas just tries different drivers
[11:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, xf86-video-vesa is rolled into xorg-server i think
[11:26:01] <boru> `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us`
[11:26:42] <chromas> oh, is this #archlinux ? :D
[11:26:56] <boru> Hmm?
[11:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, they quit putting Xorg.*.log in /var/log/ on arch. moved it to fucking ~/.local/share/xorg/
[11:27:30] * boru chuckles.
[11:27:38] <boru> Man, what a mess Linux is these days...
[11:27:54] <chromas> I still get mine in the right place
[11:27:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> it fucked with me for like half an hour the other day when i was trying to get amdgpu-pro working.
[11:29:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> use find on / because i don't let mlocate read /home
[11:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's all fine n good to encrypt /home but it's kind of pointless if you have all your files indexed in the locatedb
[11:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> probable cause is not my friend
[11:31:45] <chromas> I have my whole / encrypted without a separate /boot. So far arch is the only one I've been able to do that with
[11:32:24] <chromas> just means I'm not nerdy enough to force the others
[11:32:26] <boru> Say what? You can't put /boot on another partition?
[11:32:28] <chromas> plus that would be rape
[11:32:36] <chromas> I can but I didn't
[11:32:41] <chromas> so even /boot is encrypted
[11:32:55] <boru> IIRC, you can't put /usr on another partition with lennhartd, right?
[11:33:05] <chromas> grub supports crypt volumes
[11:33:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> moles eat grubs.
[11:33:42] <chromas> You could but they symlink all the bins to /usr/bin now
[11:34:20] <boru> As in LUKS? I think GELI is better designed, personally. And soon, transparent encryption will come to the open version of ZFS!
[11:34:25] <chromas> even the sbins
[11:34:29] <boru> Actually, that may already have happened.
[11:34:44] <boru> Sounds like a complete hack, and violates the LFHS.
[11:34:51] <boru> Good job, poetterix.
[11:35:05] <chromas> it's PHS now
[11:35:10] <chromas> or ODFS maybe
[11:35:16] * boru chuckles.
[11:36:05] <chromas> they should team up with the javas
[11:36:16] <chromas> org.opendesktop.lennartfs
[11:36:29] * boru is aghast.
[11:36:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> really wish i could trust a usb drive not to shit the bed on me. i'd key the encryption to a file on one and save myself a 30+ character password every reboot.
[11:37:35] <boru> You could just put /boot on it.
[11:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> for extra shit the bed destruction, yeah.
[11:38:22] <chromas> there's nothing important in /boot. In fact, I keep mine in the recycle bin
[11:38:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose i could store a copy of the file in /root/
[11:38:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> and put it on a new key if necessary
[11:38:57] <boru> You have the same problem with all media. If you us a decent KDF, it starts getting a bit moot.
[11:39:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. it's entirely possible for me to have the key in my pocket and fall out of the boat or get rained on or some such. not so much with a hdd.
[11:40:07] <boru> Anyway, I need to mod some boards. Friday is molten lead fumes day.
[11:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> you still have lead solder? you lucky bastard!
[11:40:34] <boru> You'd bring your HDD on a boat?
[11:41:05] <boru> We do. No need for RoHS. It's not COTS stuff.
[11:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i do occasionally forget what's in my pockets. so usb drives are in constant peril around me.
[11:41:14] <boru> Engineers are disposable.
[11:42:21] <chromas> use a lego usb key and make it into an amulet
[11:42:26] <chromas> +3 dex or whatever
[11:42:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had a couple other drives keyed to a file in /home but one shit the bed and the other got turned into an ntfs drive for putting fucking huge games on.
[11:43:07] <boru> It'd be a cursed item. You can throw it at bare-footed enemies and make them walk on it.
[11:43:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> boru, only if it had a systemd live boot image installed on it
[11:44:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> grub n boot files alone aren't evil
[11:44:04] <boru> Hmm?
[11:44:11] <boru> Oh, I meant the lego amulet.
[11:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[11:44:34] <boru> Oh, now I get it. Silly me.
[11:44:50] <chromas> grub2's pretty eviiil
[11:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if you don't neuter it back to near grub1 functionality
[11:45:35] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[11:45:35] <Wesley> ^ 03Mermaid Man - EVIL!!! - YouTube
[11:45:50] <boru> Enhance it hack to grub1 functionality, you mean.
[11:45:57] <chromas> this one's better https://www.youtube.com
[11:45:58] <Wesley> ^ 03Spongebob Sqaurepants, Mermaid Man EVIL! - YouTube
[11:46:04] <chromas> just needs an allahu akbar
[11:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[11:46:30] <boru> Speaking of walking on lego, someone sent this to me on another network, recently: https://i.imgur.com
[11:46:43] <boru> I thought it was amusing.
[11:46:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... think i may hafta get a pi 3 soon. pi 1 b gets a bit skippy on higher bitrate encoded movies.
[11:47:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> har!
[11:47:14] <boru> Ugh, don't waste your money. Get a real board!
[11:47:37] <boru> In fact, don't even waste your money on those. I have piles of application processor boards I'm about to toss out.
[11:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> for what i use it for? it'd be a waste.
[11:48:36] <boru> Well, since I have practically zero use for application processors, they're not much more than paperweights and shelf space at the moment.
[11:48:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> all, and i mean all, it does is run a kodi and play videos from nfs shares
[11:49:10] <boru> That's more than I use them for; port FreeBSD. The end.
[11:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[11:49:37] <chromas> You could try to run SN on one
[11:49:46] <chromas> or all. SoylentCluster
[11:49:59] <boru> We often get free dev boards from people at work, and I get free boards whenever I order anything from Farnell or Digikey etc.
[11:50:05] <boru> So, I have accumulated many.
[11:50:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, you probably could if you could get all the libraries the perl modules use ported to arm
[11:50:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> which they may be
[11:50:43] <boru> The most recent was the IFC6540, which is basically a laptop replacement; SATA3, USB3 etc.
[11:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> noice
[11:51:06] <boru> This conversation is familiar. I think you wanted me to find an ARM board for you a few weeks ago.
[11:51:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[11:51:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> desktop replacement then, rpi replacement this time.
[11:51:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> re: desktop...
[11:51:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> dare i say it?
[11:52:26] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders a beowulf cluster of raspberry pis
[11:52:58] <boru> The raspberry poo is really awful, in terms of cheap SBCs.
[11:53:08] <boru> There are far better choices out there, really.
[11:53:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. most of em not as cheap or as supported by software though.
[11:54:06] <boru> It depends on your use case. If I wanted an SBC cluster, I'd probably go with the parallella.
[11:54:21] <boru> FPGA + N-core GPCPU.
[11:54:43] <boru> Cortex-A on the same package as the FPGA (Xilinx Zynq)
[11:54:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky
[11:55:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> FPGAs ain't cheap though.
[11:55:24] <boru> They're $99, which isn't bad given what you get.
[11:55:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, they went down that much since i looked?
[11:55:47] * TheMightyBuzzard thinks back
[11:55:51] <boru> I think that's for the entry level one.
[11:55:56] <boru> I recall them being far more expensive, also.
[11:55:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, granted it was at least ten years ago.
[11:56:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd been checking them out because /. ran a story on using them to encode mp3s
[11:56:33] <boru> Ah, you mean FPGAs in general. Absolutely. Prices have plumetted with the recent interest in electronics amongst hobbyists, again.
[11:56:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> so maybe 20 years ago.
[11:57:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> $99 is very doable though. now what oh what could i do with one of those...
[11:59:18] <boru> Not enough gates to synthesise a RISC-V core, alas.
[11:59:43] <boru> Enough LEs for some DSP and that sort of thing, though.
[12:00:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i was thinking maybe an aac encoder, just for kicks.
[12:01:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i'd do any of my en/transcoding on it. still be faster to use the ole six core 1090t
[12:01:45] <boru> Check out some existing IP blocks for that and see how many LEs they require.
[12:02:01] <boru> Worst case, you could dump it onto the GP cprocessor.
[12:02:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> knod knod
[12:02:11] <boru> They have 16-64 cores, I think.
[12:02:22] <boru> I haven't followed the project recently.
[12:02:38] <boru> Coprocessor, rather.
[12:02:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> really it'd end up doing exactly what the pi is doing now, regardless of hardware. i haven't thought of anything better for them to do.
[12:03:30] <boru> I think that's the problem that most people have.
[12:03:43] <boru> They're not interesting.
[12:04:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i mean ditto any computer. my needs are currently met.
[12:04:26] <boru> It's not 'real' embedded, imho. I figure people's money is better spent on a Cortex-M board, say, like some NXP LPC or a STM32, or a MIPS or PIC board.
[12:04:38] <boru> Those are infinitely more fun to hack around with.
[12:04:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought about some robotics applications but haven't had the time to really play with anything.
[12:05:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, nicotine time
[12:05:25] <chromas> You could switch from a macro to a robot that types coffee++
[12:05:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:05:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
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[12:07:02] <boru> Robotics is a lot of fun.
[12:07:29] <boru> Control theory and kinematics are generally quite interesting.
[12:16:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun's all nice n good but i'd like to be able to mow my yard without having to push the mower.
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[12:18:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dearly lurve playing with new tech but if i don't have a practical application for it, it's going to end up in a box collecting dust.
[12:21:32] <chromas> create new tech to dust your old tech
[12:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd get more fun to cutting the boards into throwing star shapes and throwing them at boxes
[12:32:30] <boru> I may have used a box of raspberry poos for target practice at some point.
[12:33:01] <boru> That's how many I had accumulated through buying electronic components.
[12:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, funny
[12:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, the most important things i'd need to get rehash running on a pi are already ported...
[12:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, damn, forgot we have to custom build apache n perl.
[12:43:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> that would take months on a chincy little arm cpu
[12:43:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i could cross-compile from my desktop
[12:44:22] <chromas> you just need a pi cluster
[12:45:40] <chromas> Once it's running we could each run a soylent pi
[12:45:46] <chromas> dsitributed hosting
[12:45:51] <chromas> soylent@home
[12:47:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> interestin idea. distributed fs of some sort.
[12:47:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> and distributed db
[12:47:36] <chromas> PiSQL
[12:48:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, gotta get another cigarette in then get some running around done. no rest for the me.
[12:48:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:48:42] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 80
[13:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, running done for a while
[13:38:20] <crutchy> i think you can put mysql databases on a drbd cluster
[13:38:37] <crutchy> which is a block level network filesystem
[13:39:16] <crutchy> used for high availability stuff, so you can mirror across sites n shat
[13:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm. interestin.
[13:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like there'd be issues though
[13:48:29] <crutchy> dunno. i've never used it
[13:49:01] <crutchy> wanted to have a play for a while but never got motivated enough to get past the research stage
[13:49:25] <crutchy> http://drbd.org
[13:49:33] <Wesley> ^ 03DRBD brings you High Availability and Disaster Recovery. ( http://www.drbd.org )
[13:50:40] <crutchy> ah yeah that's right its used with pacemaker
[13:51:36] <crutchy> http://clusterlabs.org
[13:51:37] <Wesley> ^ 03Cluster Labs - The Home of Linux Clustering
[13:57:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like it'd be good for filesystems and really, really bad for dbs
[13:58:19] <crutchy> its probably similar to raid
[13:58:28] <crutchy> except across a network
[13:58:56] <crutchy> real low level block shit
[13:59:36] <crutchy> i dunno how a db performs on a raid
[14:00:02] <crutchy> you'd probably want a SAN to keep things snappy
[14:00:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly terribly if you try two inserts that try and change the same block
[14:00:38] <crutchy> how would two inserts change anything at block level?
[14:01:06] <crutchy> does mysql do that?
[14:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if you want your db written to the drive, it has to
[14:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want it read-only that's fine but if you're gonna write to it it needs locking
[14:02:04] <crutchy> well i guess if it could bork local storage it could bork network storage too
[14:02:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[14:02:25] <crutchy> does anyone still use myisam?
[14:03:06] <crutchy> i thought inno was the norm
[14:03:23] <crutchy> (cos of row locking)
[14:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do if i don't give a damn about advanced features.
[14:03:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> like if it could just as well be a sqlite db but i decided to put it in the real db.
[14:04:15] <crutchy> is it just me or are chuppachups a pita to get into?
[14:04:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, inno is the norm
[14:06:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatsa chupathingy?
[14:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> besides the obvious i mean
[14:06:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> #youtube chupathingy
[14:06:35] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[14:06:52] <crutchy> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:06:58] <Wesley> ^ 03Wiki: Chupa Chups
[14:07:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, those things
[14:07:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause they're damned sticky
[14:07:33] * crutchy grabbed a handful of them from the brew room at work
[14:08:01] <crutchy> someone had a bucket of em from one of those giveaway things when you buy paint
[14:09:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should give some to a baby. then take it away.
[14:09:55] <crutchy> i dunno if gravis is here atm
[14:10:01] <crutchy> bahahahahaha!
[14:11:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy++
[14:11:53] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 213
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[14:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.spiked-online.com
[14:20:46] <Wesley> ^ 03Taking on the snowflakes | Books Essays | spiked
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[14:49:17] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches some of the dead skin off of his foot and offers it to Subsentient
[14:49:31] * Subsentient eats it
[14:49:44] <Subsentient> mmm, chewy
[14:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, i'm bored
[14:58:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may fuck off and play some vidya
[14:58:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> kids is too distracting to get any work done while they're around
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[15:30:56] <Runaway1956> The hobbits? We ate them. Mystery solved.
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[17:05:19] <Runaway1956> I'm cooking Ramen noodles - EVERYBODY has to eat some!
[17:05:24] <Runaway1956> http://www.foxnews.com
[17:05:29] <Wesley> ^ 03Man beats friend for refusing to eat ramen noodles, police say | Fox News
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[17:34:55] <Subsentient> Runaway1956: eww, faux news
[17:38:53] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: oh, you're on CenturyLink too? Is it because they let you run a server, or is it monopoly?
[17:39:13] <Subsentient> mechanicjay1:
[17:39:15] <Subsentient> lol two of you
[17:39:52] * Subsentient throws mechanicjay and mechanicjay1 a copy of NEXUS: https://github.com
[17:39:52] <Wesley> ^✓ 03GitHub - Subsentient/nexus: NEXUS is a specialized IRC proxy/bouncer to merge multiple connected IRC clients into the same nickname seamlessly.
[17:39:57] <mechanicjay1> Eh, left my work computer logged in when I left last night and took an unexpected work from home day this morning.
[17:40:13] <mechanicjay1> Subsentient: Century Link because I wont' give comcast my money.
[17:41:05] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: That's a good reason.
[17:41:09] <mechanicjay1> Also, if I actually get off my ass and order it, I can upgrade my 5Mb DSL line to like a 40 Meg fiber connection for the same price. A few more dollars than that and I can get a static IP ...then I'll run my own server again.
[17:41:40] <Subsentient> mechanicjay1: I use them because they don't block any ports and they give me a static IP for $5/mo
[17:41:42] <mechanicjay1> though I've been pretty happy with my linode vps
[17:42:08] <Subsentient> linode's a good company.
[17:42:28] <mechanicjay1> lucky you got in at the $5/mo level. When I first signed about a year and 1/2 ago that was the price. Now it's like $10 with a $75 setup fee.
[17:42:34] <mechanicjay1> which is kinda horseshit.
[17:42:50] <Runaway1956> Subsentient - you spell it wrong. Faux Noise is the correct spelling.
[17:43:10] <mechanicjay1> Almost all you need at this point is an IPV6 address anyway, which should be free.
[17:43:42] <Subsentient> I'm really going to miss IPv4
[17:44:28] <Subsentient> IPv4 addresses are just so much easier to remember
[17:44:51] <mechanicjay1> thats really the huge drawback
[17:45:13] <mechanicjay1> But how else are you going to have an address space where every atom in the universe can have it's own ip?
[17:49:03] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: Fair enough, but I'd still prefer something much easier to remember.
[17:49:19] <Subsentient> An address space with 8 columns seems pretty reasonable
[17:49:30] <Subsentient> decimal, not hex like ipv6
[17:51:35] <mechanicjay1> my local ipv6 address, coverted to decimal and dotted is:
[17:52:53] <CoolHand> mechanicjay1: I belive digitalocean is $5/mo still... (and linux/bsd friendly)
[17:53:07] <mechanicjay1> 65152.0.52686.60109.8689.38222
[17:53:38] <mechanicjay1> I'm not sure thats any easier to remember than a colon delineated hex address
[17:53:43] <Subsentient> mechanicjay: I meant something with 3 digits a column, like ipv4 had
[17:53:55] <mechanicjay1> I see
[17:54:22] <Subsentient> 123.456.789.123.456.789.123.456
[17:54:28] <Subsentient> I think that's a good bit better.
[17:54:36] <Subsentient> mechanicjay1: Wouldn't you agree?
[17:56:32] <mechanicjay1> I don't know, it's still 24 characters.
[17:58:04] <Subsentient> mechanicjay1: I think it'd be easier simply because it's more delimited\
[17:58:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm just gonna invent IPv8 right here right now
[17:59:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> here's what it's gonna be: a special flag in the IPv4 header that says "this is an IPv8 packet"
[17:59:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> and the outer IPv4 packet will have a destination of an IPv4 NAT device
[17:59:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> and will contain an inner IPv4 packet that has the internal IP (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x or whatever) of the final destination.
[18:00:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> BAM. IPv4 can live forever and we can still have (IPv4 space size)^2 things on the internet.
[18:03:53] <Subsentient> mechanicjay mechanicjay1 http://pastebin.com
[18:03:59] <Wesley> ^ 03[C] #include <string.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> int main(void) { - Pastebin.com
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