#Soylent | Logs for 2015-12-08
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[22:41:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Call to Earth - A Message from the World's Astronauts to COP21 - http://sylnt.us - there-is-only-one-earth
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[22:18:47] <cmn32480> off to home. Back later
[22:10:00] <cmn32480> freaking comcrap
[22:08:22] <Lumberg> ^ 03The Google Pixel C Goes On Sale
[22:08:21] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
[22:07:54] <Lumberg> ^ 03AMD Joins The Immersive Technology Alliance, Alliance VR Council Chair Appointed
[22:07:53] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[22:03:15] <Lumberg> ^ 03Titan Helps Researchers Explore Explosive Star Scenarios
[22:03:14] <takyon> http://www.hpcwire.com
[21:53:02] <Lumberg> ^ 03New York Times Publishes ACLU's Factual Errors, Will They Publish Our Correction? - PINAC
[21:53:01] <takyon> https://photographyisnotacrime.com
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[21:36:33] <crutchy> ciao o/
[21:36:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> hi, crutchy. bye, crutchy.
[21:36:11] <Bender> karma - tea: 514
[21:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea++ # need the sugar
[21:35:59] <Bender> karma - workipoos: -12
[21:35:59] <crutchy> workipoos-- # :(
[21:35:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1960
[21:35:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:14:55] <takyon> http://www.futurity.org
[21:14:46] <Lumberg> ^ 03Drug for pets fights ear tumors in rare foxes - Futurity
[21:14:45] <takyon> http://www.futurity.org
[21:10:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Nemesis" Bootkit Pwns Payment Processing Firms Running Windows - http://sylnt.us - bootkits-are-the-worst
[21:06:32] <Lumberg> ^ 03IT salary not enough? Want to make £10,000 a DAY? • The Register
[21:06:32] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[20:37:25] <Lumberg> ^ 03Emergent Chip Vastly Accelerates Deep Neural Networks
[20:37:24] <takyon> http://www.nextplatform.com
[20:36:28] <Lumberg> ^ 03How the TPP Will Affect You and Your Digital Rights | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[20:36:27] <takyon> https://www.eff.org
[20:36:18] <Lumberg> ^ 03Solar Technology Is Great — But Right Now It Costs Too Much And Isn't Good Enough : Goats and Soda : NPR
[20:36:17] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[20:18:40] <Lumberg> ^ 03Icelanders Opposed To Government Support For Religion Form A Religion Of Their Own : The Two-Way : NPR
[20:18:39] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
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[19:38:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GnuPG 2.1.10 Released - http://sylnt.us - getting-better-all-the-time
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[19:16:08] <takyon> syrian war, more aggressive russia, shenanigans in the south china sea
[19:15:33] <takyon> and all the "sjw" stuff that escalated after gamergate a year+ ago
[19:15:01] <takyon> and #blacklivesmatter and the clock kid
[19:13:55] <takyon> and the rapidfire terrorist attacks
[19:13:15] <takyon> the 2016 elections
[19:13:14] <cmn32480> you say that as if the political landscape has been a barren wasteland of stories
[19:13:11] <takyon> the second crypto war
[19:13:06] <takyon> there's an awful lot happening
[19:12:08] <Gravis> awful lot of politics lately
[19:11:23] <takyon> all of the above
[19:11:16] <takyon> yup
[19:09:50] <Gravis> or maybe couples of people just bitching at each other
[19:08:54] <Lumberg> ^ 03SN article: Five Signs that the USA Just Isn't the Country it Used to Be 04(94 comments)
[19:08:52] <Gravis> hmm... everyone and their moms seems to be on this thread: https://soylentnews.org
[19:06:10] <Gravis> really you should because there seems to be a QA issue with the workforce
[19:05:54] <chromas> Bug: too dumb; didn't read
[19:05:31] <chromas> Can you submit a bug report on employees?
[19:04:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> But if I had been on the receiving end of that report, I would have it report to his boss with a recommendation that he be fired.
[19:04:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was a QA guy at that company at the time, to I didn't get to do that.
[19:03:37] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: should have closed the report with YOUREFIRED. ;P
[19:03:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> I should do that too.
[19:03:18] * cmn32480 goes back to his day job.
[19:02:54] <cmn32480> as a completely useless bug report, it has been deleted.
[19:02:50] * AndyTheAbsurd facepalm
[19:02:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> This was a QA guy at that company, too.
[19:02:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> I've seen "bug reports" consisting of "It showed an error message then didn't install". When asked, the user admitted to not having the read the error message.
[19:01:55] <Gravis> totally non-descript too
[19:01:53] <cmn32480> obviously
[19:01:36] <Gravis> i mean, i couldn't think of an actual bug report that would be less helpful or informative
[19:00:53] <chromas> is the bot peeing in your boots again?
[19:00:49] <Gravis> best bug report was "it doesn't go"
[19:00:25] <Gravis> cmn32480: when it... goes. ;P
[19:00:05] <cmn32480> and please, gravis, define "fix"
[18:59:08] <chromas> it has to find and stake out your house
[18:58:30] <chromas> murder takes time, Gravis
[18:58:24] <cmn32480> please... be more precise
[18:58:17] <cmn32480> the bot?
[18:58:03] <Gravis> cmn32480: you really need to fix the bot. :(
[18:57:47] <Gravis> ~murder
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[18:07:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Unholy Matrimony: Android on Win10 - http://sylnt.us - emulate-this!
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[17:34:11] <cmn32480> ~funding
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[17:07:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1959
[17:07:59] <everdred> coffee++
[16:52:44] <cmn32480> ~funding
[16:52:31] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (160 aliases)
[16:52:24] <cmn32480> ~rehash
[16:22:03] <SirFinkus> WASTED
[16:20:45] <Lumberg> ^ 03Officer involved shooting 12/06/15 - YouTube
[16:20:44] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com holy shit, that's one hell of a chase
[16:06:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silk Road "Mentor" Arrested in Thailand - http://sylnt.us - looking-for-silkworms?
[15:59:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> Not now, Lumberg, I've got a meeting with the Bobs in a few minutes. [Goes back to playing Tetris and eating Cheetos]
[15:58:14] <cmn32480> I hope your firings go really well
[15:46:37] <SirFinkus> the pleasure's all on this side of the table
[15:45:47] <Lumberg> I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too.
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[15:43:46] <SirFinkus> do you have a jump to conclusions mat?
[15:43:02] <SirFinkus> and office space clips are always good
[15:42:55] <SirFinkus> I meant the bitching about customers part
[15:42:33] <cmn32480> I'm not nearly that rotund\
[15:42:18] <cmn32480> that ain't right
[15:42:15] <cmn32480> awwww
[15:42:09] <SirFinkus> the guy across the table
[15:41:59] <cmn32480> the guy on the left or the guy on the right?
[15:41:50] <SirFinkus> I'M A PEOPLE PERSON
[15:41:35] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03What would you say...you do here? - YouTube
[15:41:33] <SirFinkus> how I picture cmn32480 https://www.youtube.com
[15:39:41] <chromas> it's because they carry large books :D
[15:38:54] <cmn32480> ther is a reason they call them cus tomers
[15:38:07] <cmn32480> as woudl the pulling orders part
[15:38:04] <Bender> karma - customers: -1
[15:38:04] <chromas> customers--
[15:38:01] <chromas> ew
[15:37:56] <cmn32480> the customer interaction part would be tough
[15:37:37] <chromas> make an exec script to do your day job :)
[15:37:30] <cmn32480> he has _lots_ of scripts....
[15:37:13] <cmn32480> if only my day job didn't get in the way.. I could have all this fixed already
[15:37:00] <chromas> I s'pose you've already figured that out :D
[15:36:38] <cmn32480> yes he does
[15:36:33] <chromas> Yeah, exec has a script to watch github activity
[15:35:56] <cmn32480> crutchy mentioned getting him a github account also. I shall accomplish this as well, maybe today if I can remember that long
[15:35:20] <cmn32480> I'm trying
[15:35:20] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 28
[15:35:20] <chromas> cmn32480++ ping ;)
[15:35:13] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 9
[15:35:13] <chromas> woohoo++
[15:32:41] <exec> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 44°F / 7°C, sunny, wind NW at 6 mph, humidity 65% - mostly sunny (40°F:53°F / 4°C:12°C), mostly cloudy (44°F:54°F / 7°C:12°C), mostly sunny (44°F:57°F / 7°C:14°C), mostly sunny (47°F:59°F / 8°C:15°C)
[15:32:39] <cmn32480> ~weather
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[15:29:31] <cmn32480> ~restart
[15:29:00] <cmn32480> damnit\
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[15:28:34] <cmn32480> now he is really back chromas
[15:28:17] <cmn32480> Woo hoooo!
[15:28:11] <cmn32480> IT worked!
[15:28:00] <cmn32480> and save it this time too.
[15:27:55] <cmn32480> perhaps if I change the nick in the config file, that'd help.
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[15:27:28] <exec_> successfully saved buckets file (18.5 kb)
[15:27:27] <cmn32480> ~restart
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[15:26:49] <cmn32480> I'll figure out these commands eventually....
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[15:26:35] <exec_> successfully saved buckets file (27.3 kb)
[15:26:33] <cmn32480> ~restart
[15:26:14] <cmn32480> ~reload
[15:26:02] <cmn32480> ~~reload
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[15:20:45] <cmn32480> registering him now
[15:20:43] <cmn32480> not yet chromas
[15:17:53] <chromas> good show, old chap!
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[15:17:07] <SirFinkus> probably just because I loved moral orel
[15:15:59] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03the mountain goats-No Children w/lyrics - YouTube
[15:15:58] <SirFinkus> I've always like No Children https://www.youtube.com
[15:14:14] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Wiki: The Mountain Goats: Difference between revisions
[15:14:12] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:14:12] <SirFinkus> I'm glad congress is spending my tax dollars well keeping wikipedia up to date
[15:12:25] <SirFinkus> there you go again, with that crazy helio-centrism again
[15:12:04] <cmn32480> that assertion is... well... ABSURD!
[15:11:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> But none of you are going to believe me...
[15:11:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> the truth is, I'm the only one that ISN'T absurd.
[15:11:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> we're overevolved monkeys on a dirt spaceship circling an enormous ball of hydrogen fusing into helium
[15:08:52] <SirFinkus> I guess why they call you andy the absurd
[15:08:11] * AndyTheAbsurd suspects that the USA hasn't ever been the country that we like to think that it was
[15:05:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Five Signs that the USA Just Isn't the Country it Used to Be - http://sylnt.us - new-normal
[14:55:48] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Russian "Pawn Storm" expands, rains hell on NATO, air-gapped PCs • The Register
[14:55:48] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[14:30:08] <cmn32480> obviously TMB is having another rough day....
[14:29:22] <chromas> didn't see
[14:29:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully this is not my problem and i shall now play some final fantasy 13
[14:29:02] <cmn32480> drive of shame perhaps?
[14:28:57] <cmn32480> was she still in a knee length black dress?
[14:28:38] <cmn32480> possibly drunk?
[14:28:33] <cmn32480> and well deserved
[14:27:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> she's gonna get in a mess of trouble for leaving the scene of an accident
[14:22:41] * chromas tags them in
[14:22:37] <chromas> oh look, someone else in the house it up./
[14:21:57] <chromas> I hate calling people
[14:21:42] <cmn32480> time to call PD before the tow truck gets there!
[14:21:25] <chromas> so that car's still sitting here, stuck for the moment
[14:21:17] <chromas> they left in another car
[14:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> leave insurance info or just drive off?
[14:20:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeesh
[14:20:39] <chromas> also broke her mirror. the parked car just got some scratches
[14:20:28] <chromas> just had a girl swipe a car just outside my house. she left with a friend. couldn't get her car going because her wheel's stuck rubbing against the wheel well
[14:20:07] <ShittyButthole> ^✓ 03PINK GUY - KILL YOURSELF - YouTube
[14:20:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com time first though
[14:19:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> in a minute, yeah
[14:19:33] <chromas> vidya time eh
[14:17:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, done for the day. that lil bit of fun and an argument with a friend who wanted to spout feminist garbage has my brain totally out of the zone
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[13:35:35] <chromas> I knew it! Global warming is a total hoax!
[13:34:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global CO2 Emissions Decline in 2015 - http://sylnt.us - take-a-deep-breath
[13:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that completely made me lose my place on dev...
[13:30:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy, sorry bout the unexpected downtime.
[13:29:23] <LoRdTAW> better
[13:26:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> better?
[13:25:02] <chromas> true. one night to talk about it. 272 seconds to timeout from irc
[13:24:11] <cmn32480> I don't think it would take him that long
[13:23:57] <cmn32480> but if you woudld like to contribute by working on the code base, I'm sure that we can find a way for yo to help
[13:23:55] <chromas> overnight
[13:23:53] <chromas> poutine could do it
[13:23:33] <cmn32480> Gravis, you realize the site is based on an ancient codebase where mysql was the bees knees when it was written and that changing your DB is not a trivial exercise?
[13:21:07] <Gravis> mysql? time to move on
[13:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, you will be until i get mysql up and working again so i can start the webserver
[13:19:50] <cmn32480> I';;m still getting 503 errors buzzard
[13:18:06] <chromas> I should probably look at the Arch news. An -Syu just disabled a pile of keys
[13:14:11] <LoRdTAW> Ha! I was enjoying my morning browse through the articles, sipping my coffee, thinking out my day and BAM! 503. Dont know what to do now. Suppose I'll shuffle off to the shop floor and fix broken things.
[13:12:24] <chromas> it's actually the NSA's MitM script that died
[13:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> blame ncommander actually for not writing an init script for mysqld
[13:11:27] <cmn32480> he swears he's gonna work on it agfter his nap
[13:11:17] <cmn32480> LoRdTAW - blame the buzzard
[13:11:03] <LoRdTAW> Morning soylentals. Whats up with the 503's? You're forcing me to do actual work here.
[13:10:08] <SirFinkus> these are handwritten originals
[13:09:59] <SirFinkus> it'd probably save me a lot of work, but I wouldn't trust it
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[13:09:43] <SirFinkus> it'd be an imposition to haul all that crap somewhere and take over the copy machine for several days
[13:09:42] <cmn32480> get one w/ a document feeder
[13:09:07] <SirFinkus> so I'm probably better off just getting a cheapo scanner
[13:09:06] <cmn32480> oh
[13:08:37] <SirFinkus> that reeks of cigarettes
[13:08:29] <SirFinkus> yeah, but 5 banker boxes of stuff
[13:08:00] <cmn32480> got a friend with a copy machine at work?
[13:06:48] <SirFinkus> couple inches, but I just have one of those goofy all in one printers that can only do letter
[13:06:48] <chromas> Is there a college nearby? Just go snerk into the computer lab (if they still have those)
[13:06:41] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[13:06:04] <cmn32480> how much largert?
[13:06:00] <SirFinkus> and doesn't shit the bed every 5 pages
[13:05:51] <SirFinkus> my main problem is scanning at the moment, I need to get a scanner that does larger than letter
[13:05:02] <SirFinkus> but DA JAVA
[13:04:54] <SirFinkus> I'll investigate
[13:04:50] <SirFinkus> no, I haven't chromas
[13:04:36] <cmn32480> BOOOM!!!!!!
[13:04:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> fek, mysql is down on it too
[13:04:20] <chromas> are we there yet?
[13:04:18] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 204
[13:04:18] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:04:17] <chromas> Is it fixed yet? Is it fixed yet?
[13:04:12] <cmn32480> YAY!!!!!!!
[13:03:59] <cmn32480> fix it yet???
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[13:03:47] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Audiveris - Handbook
[13:03:46] <chromas> SirFinkus: have you seen this? (requires java) https://audiveris.kenai.com
[13:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like hydrogen
[13:03:10] <cmn32480|away> dunno
[13:02:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder which frontend
[13:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> woohoo!
[13:01:26] <cmn32480|away> 503 varnish
[13:01:20] <cmn32480|away> site down buzzard
[12:44:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be but i'm not renaming it
[12:42:00] <chromas> should it be rehashd?
[12:41:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... good ole slashd... introducing forking into what would otherwise be a simple bit of code
[12:26:09] <SirFinkus> snigger lovers
[12:10:38] <chromas> Hungry? Why wait? Grab a Sniggers
[12:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i'm hungry
[12:10:13] <chromas> it's alright, you can say "sniggers" here
[12:09:57] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[12:03:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Finland: Universal Basic Income Planned for Later in 2016 - http://sylnt.us - handouts-instead-of-gov't-jobs-or-worker-owned-cooperatives
[12:00:36] * chromas whips up a batch of dark chocolate, onions and bones for the dog
[12:00:19] * chromas goes back in time ~10 or so years to redo her feeding
[11:59:35] <SirFinkus> I just wouldn't risk it
[11:58:51] <chromas> this is opposite of what Ive read before
[11:58:45] <chromas> "The general rule, however, is that Dogs can eat Raw Chicken Bones but not cooked Chicken Bones."
[11:58:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, time for a smoke then get some actual work done on sn coding
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[11:55:52] <SirFinkus> shouldn't do that, they can get fucked up pretty easily with a chicken bone
[11:55:05] <chromas> never been a problem, though they're also cooked as part of making stock
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[11:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> chicken bones are bad for dogs. splintery. can get caught in their throat.
[11:53:26] <chromas> they eat chicken bones though
[11:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> "nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, made you eat your parrents"
[11:53:24] <SirFinkus> so many murder investigations begin with a dog digging something up and bringing a bone home
[11:53:20] <chromas> I guess people bones are too big
[11:53:02] <SirFinkus> giving the bones to dogs is a terrible idea
[11:52:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh, the cartman method
[11:52:47] <chromas> give bones to dogs
[11:52:46] <SirFinkus> too messy
[11:52:33] <chromas> freeze corpse, cube, make chili for church potluck
[11:52:03] <SirFinkus> you can never have too much rope
[11:51:43] * TheMightyBuzzard bought way too much anchor rope
[11:51:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> true that. works fine for a couple hundred foot deep lake though.
[11:50:51] <SirFinkus> that boat you have doesn't look like a good choice for going 10 miles offshore
[11:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you'd need a boat like dexter or me then.
[11:50:02] <SirFinkus> not a problem 10 miles offshore
[11:49:52] <SirFinkus> but anyway, the pigs will leave things like teeth behind
[11:49:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> right. water gets all cooked off in the hot peanut oil
[11:49:13] <chromas> he doesn't eat the water though
[11:49:07] <Gravis> chromas: fuck... upgrade your damn client. >:(
[11:48:55] <SirFinkus> fish eat their own shit, and you eat fish TheMightyBuzzard
[11:48:49] <chromas> Gravis: well, you can't know for sure. You outsourced it via rpc. you only assume the implementation used a knife
[11:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> fish fuck and shit in that nastiness
[11:48:30] <SirFinkus> I prefer the mob tactic of tossing the weighted bodies in the ocean
[11:48:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, water? never touch the stuff.
[11:48:13] <Gravis> amateur
[11:47:59] <Gravis> chromas: i said i stabbed you, not shanked you. pfff
[11:47:50] <SirFinkus> you're all fucked
[11:47:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> just for the sake of conversation, i still have yet to top Snatch in ease of body disposal. feed em to the pigs.
[11:47:46] <SirFinkus> it's too late, I already put thallium in the soylent news water supply
[11:47:31] * chromas just gained a free shiv
[11:47:13] * Gravis stabs chromas so that chromas cannot betray him
[11:47:05] <SirFinkus> well, thanks for the help, I have a starting point at least
[11:46:47] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to chromas
[11:46:33] <chromas> don't forget the "I, ANAL"
[11:46:17] <Gravis> #sociopathy
[11:46:06] <SirFinkus> can probably pass the hat around next family get together
[11:45:56] <Gravis> SirFinkus: then after he has helped you, murder him so he can't betray you
[11:45:53] <SirFinkus> yeah, I'll have to scrounge up some cash then
[11:45:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, free legal advice is worth what you pay for it
[11:45:23] <Gravis> SirFinkus: if you really want it "correctly" then you should speak to a lawyer about it, just to be sure.
[11:45:10] <SirFinkus> not looking to make money or anything, just going under creative commons
[11:44:53] <SirFinkus> gotta do it correctly
[11:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[11:44:41] <SirFinkus> it probably won't be an issue, but I want this shit ironclad
[11:44:29] <SirFinkus> the name being "John Swift" isn't helping things
[11:44:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: the issue seems to be erroneous DMCAs
[11:43:34] <Gravis> SirFinkus: wow... that tutorial is megadated
[11:42:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> registering gets you a few more rights and makes it easier to sue mostly
[11:42:04] <SirFinkus> the tutorial looks like it was for the 2002 version of the site
[11:41:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you registering them would cost you money and they don't technically need to be registered if you're putting them out with a permissive license
[11:41:34] <Gravis> SirFinkus: PDF seems the better choice
[11:41:32] <SirFinkus> this looks super outdated
[11:41:08] <Gravis> motherfuckers
[11:40:40] <SirFinkus> "This document is a Single File Web Page, also known as a Web Archive file. If you are seeing this message, your browser or editor doesn't support Web Archive files. Please download a browser that supports Web Archive, such as Microsoft Internet Explorer."
[11:40:38] <SirFinkus> the "webpage"
[11:40:28] <Gravis> nuclear weaponry is best if you aren't sure about the exact location of your target
[11:40:25] <SirFinkus> LOL
[11:39:59] * SirFinkus grumbles
[11:39:56] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Searching Tutorial
[11:39:55] <SirFinkus> http://copyright.gov
[11:39:28] <SirFinkus> high velocity scary letters are probably better in that case
[11:39:09] <Gravis> SirFinkus: well, i was thinking more of against a lawsuit
[11:38:52] <SirFinkus> works legally too, depending on the situation
[11:38:38] <Gravis> SirFinkus: high velocity projectiles are the best way to illegally defend yourself.
[11:38:07] <SirFinkus> ok, I'll look into it
[11:38:00] <Gravis> SirFinkus: either way, registering them with the copyright office is the best way to legally defend yourself.
[11:37:33] <Gravis> i agree though the copyright office may let a dupe slide by, i dunno.
[11:37:28] * SirFinkus is going to need a better scanner
[11:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> easiest way would be to register them and let the copyright office sort for dupes i suppose.
[11:36:26] <Gravis> yes but nothing easy
[11:35:54] <SirFinkus> no, is there a way to check?
[11:35:44] <SirFinkus> it's all gonna be creative commons
[11:35:40] <Gravis> SirFinkus: any idea if were they ever registered with the copyright office?
[11:35:35] <SirFinkus> main thing I want is a strong chain of custody of the rights to defend against DMCA bullshit or something
[11:35:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, just clarifying the length. hadn't heard if they'd bumped it to life+90 or something
[11:34:08] <SirFinkus> it looks like he had a few copies that he distributed to bandmates, but not a lot of people
[11:33:48] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: yes but he is the legal owner of them
[11:33:17] <SirFinkus> https://www.eskimo.com this is all that's online
[11:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> composer's life plus 70 years, isn't it, Gravis?
[11:32:36] <SirFinkus> I don't believe so
[11:32:22] <Gravis> SirFinkus: have the compositions been previously distributed?
[11:32:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> registered or not though the copyright will outlive both grandma and you.
[11:32:11] <SirFinkus> like, 5 bankers boxes full of stuff
[11:32:03] * SirFinkus has lots of work ahead of him
[11:31:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> sumpin like that would do, yeah.
[11:31:21] <SirFinkus> well, I don't technically own the rights, I was thinking a notarized letter or something from the person with the rights would be necessary
[11:31:12] <Gravis> SirFinkus: this would mearly give you the ability to manipulate the copyright in the way you see fit.
[11:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, laziness, when properly harnessed, is an incredible creative force and has lead to many, many human advancements. like the automobile and pizza delivery.
[11:30:39] <Gravis> SirFinkus: well probably the best way to protect yourself is to actually register them with the copyright office
[11:30:25] <SirFinkus> I just want to put it all under creative commons, but make it all legal and all that
[11:30:02] <SirFinkus> (late uncle btw) I have preliminary permission from my family, and my grandma, who I assume has the rights now
[11:29:30] <SirFinkus> yeah, my uncle had a lot of musical compositions he wanted made public, I've been digitizing them and I was going to throw up a website with all of them on it
[11:28:45] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i know plenty. do you have a question?
[11:28:19] <SirFinkus> anyone know lots about copyright?
[11:28:07] <Gravis> but if it were anyone else, it should decrease their chance of being able to feed themselves. i get it now.
[11:26:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, established character trait. i'd take an exp penalty for playing against it.
[11:26:25] <Gravis> or just stop being lazy
[11:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, you're right. should write tab completion in of all my bot commands
[11:24:55] <chromas> *Definitions taken from the Oxford Feminist Dictionary-Third Wave Edition.
[11:24:29] <chromas> I hope this clears things up."
[11:24:29] <chromas> Misogynist: noun /mɪˈsɒdʒ(ə)nɪst/ Any adult human with a penis. *
[11:24:29] <chromas> Misogyny: noun /mɪˈsɒdʒ(ə)ni/ The act of disagreeing with a woman at any time while in possession of a penis.
[11:24:29] <chromas> "Just one thing though. I don't think you know the definition of "misogyny". While it is true that "misogyny" used to mean the hatred of women, it now has a new, more "progressive" definition:
[11:23:57] <Gravis> saved an entire 10 keystrokes. :)
[11:23:05] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[11:23:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #socialist crutchy
[11:22:48] <chromas> now that he's gone, you have anything to say?
[11:22:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: crutchy was totally talkin' shit about you while you were gone
[11:22:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1958
[11:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:22:20] <Gravis> yeah... dpkg needs a rewrite
[11:21:58] <chromas> instead of bash
[11:21:57] <chromas> derp
[11:21:54] <chromas> for example, debian uses dash by default instead of perl
[11:21:53] <Gravis> debian
[11:21:46] <chromas> which distro?
[11:21:43] <Gravis> you know... so i can dump perl for good
[11:21:30] <Gravis> but i want is to find/make a replacement for GNU and ditch the remaining bullshit that needs perl
[11:21:07] <Gravis> later
[11:21:03] * exec_ abrasively tosses a toilet bowl of boogers to sir
[11:21:01] <chromas> ~g'night sir
[11:20:50] <crutchy> 'night folks
[11:20:33] <crutchy> still feels warm, and its 10.20pm :/
[11:20:27] <chromas> or dash
[11:20:16] <chromas> install 9front
[11:20:12] <exec_> 12Traralgon VIC - currently 17°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 24 km/h, humidity 72% - partly cloudy (13°C:27°C), sunny (11°C:26°C), partly cloudy (11°C:26°C), scattered showers (8°C:17°C)
[11:20:08] <crutchy> ~weather
[11:19:41] <Gravis> i like linux and i like the options that GNU gives but i dislike GNU and glibc
[11:18:30] * chromas awaits for the s/H/T/
[11:18:11] <Gravis> still better than HURD
[11:17:53] <Gravis> :P
[11:17:52] <crutchy> :p
[11:17:46] <sedctl> <crutchy> <Gravis> chromas: yes, anything that is a certified unix is a pos
[11:17:46] <crutchy> Gravis, s/ix//2
[11:17:39] <chromas> let's all switch to reactos
[11:17:29] <Gravis> chromas: yes, anything that is a certified unix is a posix
[11:17:13] <Gravis> bash is a tradgedy
[11:17:12] <crutchy> the directory structure :p
[11:17:00] <chromas> is anything posix?
[11:16:45] <Gravis> yeah but i'm not happy with GNU either. it's totally non-portable and it's so far beyond POSIX it's sad
[11:16:45] <chromas> I bet suse got at least 3× better when he left
[11:16:33] <chromas> ooh, Sievers works for Red Hat too now
[11:15:43] <crutchy> that was probably pre-poettering
[11:15:33] * crutchy remembers rh6.0
[11:15:10] * chromas remembers gnome 1. it's been downhill ever since
[11:14:46] <Gravis> same*
[11:14:39] <Gravis> chromas: some company is paying for their development
[11:14:37] <chromas> guhnome's all about taking away features, while systemd keeps adding them
[11:14:30] <crutchy> or dbus
[11:14:23] <crutchy> most of gnome has systemd dependencies
[11:14:08] <chromas> it's weird, because systemd and guhnome should be enemies
[11:14:03] <crutchy> you're writing a socket-based ipc and you think json is shit
[11:13:47] <Gravis> except he said it in german
[11:13:20] <Gravis> no, LP probably declared everything that existed was total shit and /only/ he could fix it
[11:12:28] <crutchy> heh. that's probably what poettering said :p
[11:12:06] <Gravis> crutchy: it will be easy for everyone to use out of the box. that's the whole point of good code.
[11:11:06] <crutchy> if you can make it so that people using your abi don't have to write their own parser, they more likely to wanna use it without throwing darts at you
[11:10:05] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03D-Bus Specification
[11:10:04] <chromas> xml this does not look like http://dbus.freedesktop.org
[11:10:04] <crutchy> i mean to programmers using other langauges
[11:10:01] <Gravis> receiving*
[11:09:47] <Gravis> crutchy: it shouldn't be accessible to anyone but the program sending and the program receiveing it
[11:09:45] <chromas> whut
[11:09:39] <crutchy> actually if you wanna make it really accessible, json is probably the way to go
[11:08:23] <Gravis> chromas: dbus actually is exactly that... xml-based ipc
[11:08:20] <crutchy> but anyway
[11:08:17] <crutchy> might be more accessible if it used a http-compatible message
[11:07:20] * chromas goes blind because Lifebuoy
[11:07:17] <Gravis> crutchy: no, just normal data packing. no encoding, just length and data.
[11:07:06] * chromas washes his mouth out with SOAP
[11:06:57] <chromas> xml-based ipc
[11:06:47] <crutchy> oops
[11:06:40] <chromas> sounds java-y
[11:06:38] <chromas> ew
[11:06:30] <crutchy> praise JBus!
[11:06:14] <chromas> GBus
[11:06:14] <crutchy> could use similar encoding as post data
[11:06:12] <chromas> he's making GravisBus
[11:06:03] <Gravis> yep
[11:05:58] <chromas> for ipc
[11:05:58] <Gravis> yep
[11:05:50] <crutchy> oh you using sockets?
[11:05:05] <Gravis> chromas: that's the plan
[11:04:32] <chromas> For each function you want to do rpc on, write a stub version that just serializes its parameters and sends it over the socket
[11:03:33] <crutchy> ~join #wiki
[11:03:13] <crutchy> making things talk to each other beats dodgy ui shat
[11:02:48] <crutchy> Gravis, interfaces are the funnest part of programming
[10:58:51] * chromas gives Gravis a handy under the table
[10:58:30] <Gravis> very ordinary and nothing too fancy, just as it should be.
[10:57:46] <Gravis> hmm... i think i have this RPC thing figured out
[10:50:18] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Carl Barron at Just for Laughs 2006 - YouTube
[10:50:17] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:49:28] <chromas> kinda looks like a subset of oatmeal
[10:49:10] <chromas> rolled oats are just flattened oats
[10:48:44] <Gravis> crutchy: i think the word you want is "oatmeal"
[10:48:35] <chromas> milo and oats
[10:47:36] <Gravis> well that explains something
[10:47:33] <chromas> probably the accent
[10:47:17] <crutchy> lol woops
[10:47:08] <crutchy> oh now i remember. the milo guy made a joke about how americans had trouble understanding an aussie saying 'rolled oats'
[10:46:23] <chromas> what is this "oats" of which you speak?
[10:46:16] <SirFinkus> yes
[10:46:06] <crutchy> do you guys have rolled oats in america?
[10:43:59] <crutchy> that was my way of pinging everyone on the sly
[10:43:15] <crutchy> aw. chromas' php shiz isn't in the list either :(
[10:42:42] <SirFinkus> neat
[10:42:41] <exec_> 03trohrt => kosaki-chan
[10:42:40] <exec_> 03TheMightyBuzzard => api-testing, rehash, slashcode
[10:42:39] <exec_> 03Subsentient => aqu4bot, bricktick, epoch, nexus, substrings, wzblue
[10:42:39] <exec_> 03SoylentNews => rehash, slashcode, slashcode_vm
[10:42:38] <exec_> 03pipedot => pipecode
[10:42:37] <exec_> 03paulej72 => rehash, slashcode
[10:42:36] <exec_> 03NSAKEY => happy-dance, not-paranoid-prosody, paranoid-prosody
[10:42:35] <exec_> 03NCommander => rehash, slashcode
[10:42:34] <exec_> 03mrcoolbp => slashcode
[10:42:34] <exec_> 03marty-b => rehash, slashcode
[10:42:33] <exec_> 03lfowles => drunken-bugfixes, jsonbot, shirokuma, tripping-robot
[10:42:32] <exec_> 03Lagg => c3-code, dotfiles, steam-swissapiknife, steam-tracker, steamodd, tinyfeeds, userscripts, weechat-scripts
[10:42:31] <exec_> 03iwantedue => rehash
[10:42:30] <exec_> 03idies => pyJHTDB
[10:42:30] <exec_> 03dimkr => LoginKit
[10:42:29] <exec_> 03Dhs92 => kosaki-chan
[10:42:28] <exec_> 03devuan => devuan-baseconf, devuan-keyring, website-debianfork
[10:42:27] <exec_> 03davidtseng => rehash
[10:42:27] <exec_> 03crutchy- => conquest, exec-irc-bot, iiterm, ircd, irciv
[10:42:27] <exec_> 03cosurgi => trunk
[10:42:27] <exec_> 03chromatos => pas
[10:42:27] <exec_> 03arachnist => dsd, repost
[10:42:26] <crutchy> ~github-list
[10:41:51] <crutchy> cmn32480|away, exec_ needs a gitbutt account so we can spy again >;-D
[10:41:23] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i shared my other stuff that i'm working on, it would be rude to deprive people of what i was planning on next.
[10:40:52] <crutchy> so we can spy on his progress :)
[10:40:43] <crutchy> when exec_'s github feed gets back online maybe we could add gravis' repo
[10:40:05] * chromas gives Gravis a participation ribbon
[10:39:39] <crutchy> everyone has their little niches
[10:39:13] <crutchy> seems interesting though. i like that you shared it
[10:38:51] <SirFinkus> gravis just wanted to make sure we all knew how much smarter he is than us
[10:38:30] <crutchy> :D
[10:38:22] <Gravis> crutchy: that's ok... i wasn't /really/ asking. :P
[10:38:03] <crutchy> dlls use exports. i dunno what kinda exports you're talking about
[10:37:46] <crutchy> good luck. i don't get it :p
[10:37:38] <Gravis> none of this introspection bullshit
[10:37:12] <Gravis> it either works or ignores it
[10:37:06] <Gravis> nope
[10:36:51] <crutchy> so you want one program to call on another program to tell it which functions are available?
[10:35:05] <Gravis> what i really need is to write a small util to generate code to both send and receive RPCs and a simple way of selecting which functions to export
[10:34:57] <crutchy> oh i guess dlls use same memory anyway
[10:34:22] <crutchy> must be some kinda shared memory pointy shit goin on there
[10:33:29] <crutchy> i dunno how it works, but when i make dlls in delphi i can access entire records and forms between the main app and dll
[10:32:12] <chromas> You'd probably need to turn on whatever rtti/introspection stuff your compiler has
[10:32:11] * crutchy has to google abi to figure out what gravis is talking about
[10:31:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Keurig, Maker of K-cup Coffee Pods, Sold for $13.9 Billion - http://sylnt.us - eco-unfriendly
[10:31:23] <Gravis> crutchy: yeah... this is more ABI type stuff.
[10:30:56] <crutchy> use php's serialization format; it retains type and reference info
[10:30:42] <chromas> except in websites and stuff
[10:30:18] <Gravis> chromas: i would never stoop so low as to use xml
[10:30:12] <crutchy> wait a minute. i don't give advice, so you can't sue me
[10:29:37] <Bender> Added quote 623
[10:29:37] <chromas> Bender: grab SirFinkus
[10:29:28] <SirFinkus> you shouldn't use json for fucking
[10:29:28] <crutchy> wow. my other advice must have been pretty good
[10:29:27] <chromas> json is far, far, faaarrrr superioror to than xml
[10:29:07] <Gravis> crutchy: that is the worse fucking advice you have had yet. xD
[10:29:00] <crutchy> everyone seems to be orgasmic about json lately
[10:28:37] <crutchy> Gravis, if you want your super awesome api thingy to be flexible and useful, it might not hurt to implement some sort of json-compatible lib
[10:28:12] <chromas> then 'get inspired' by it instead of directly kiping it
[10:27:33] <chromas> but it has rpc support
[10:27:23] <Gravis> chromas: A) libevent is for event loops. B) licensing issues
[10:27:09] <crutchy> systemd probably has a serializectl
[10:26:50] <chromas> you could steal from libevent
[10:26:42] * crutchy lights self on fire
[10:26:38] <SirFinkus> what if it was a serious question about dogs doing dumb things?
[10:26:32] <crutchy> hey we're smrt!
[10:26:07] <Gravis> SirFinkus: if it were a serious question, i wouldn't be asking here. :P
[10:25:58] <crutchy> s serialize function
[10:25:52] <crutchy> though i use php'
[10:25:52] <Gravis> but first you have to capture the function name and the types
[10:25:48] * chromas is a bit disappointed that the giant banners on wikipedia didn't last very long
[10:25:36] <crutchy> or rather base64(json_encode( or such'n'such
[10:25:06] <crutchy> Gravis, base64
[10:23:20] <SirFinkus> dogs doing dumb things is more my speed
[10:23:02] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i disagree and you were in suspense for many seconds!
[10:22:56] <chromas> s
[10:22:55] <chromas> especially since all the hardcore brogrammers are off doing other thing
[10:22:23] <SirFinkus> 30 seconds seems like a rather short time to wait
[10:22:09] <Gravis> chromas: how will pointers help with IPC?
[10:21:44] <chromas> pointers?
[10:21:43] <Gravis> don't everyone answer at once. :)
[10:21:20] <Gravis> any*
[10:21:15] <Gravis> so guys... and ideas on how to serialize a function call and the argument data into a byte array to pass over a socket?
[10:17:12] <chromas> dog needs nose cleaned
[10:17:07] <crutchy> that ipad probably tastes like vagina -> dog wins
[10:16:27] * crutchy plugs power in
[10:16:20] <Gravis> self taught dog that fails: still 5 stars! https://1.bp.blogspot.com
[10:16:19] <crutchy> oh wow i just got a battery warning
[10:16:14] * chromas is disappointed in the lack of animation in that jif
[10:15:24] <crutchy> dog figures out how to reserve entire couch. 5 stars; http://crappypictures.com
[10:14:41] <Gravis> oh my dog wishes he could figure out how to get in the car: http://cdn.themetapicture.com
[10:13:27] <chromas> yeah, the water side
[10:13:14] <crutchy> part of an ice dispenser or summin?
[10:12:55] <crutchy> wtf is that thing?
[10:12:39] <crutchy> a dog licking box
[10:12:01] <Gravis> self taught dog: 5 stars! https://i.imgur.com
[10:08:34] <crutchy> if only php was more like pascal, then it wouldn't be so crap
[10:07:57] <crutchy> ~say <#> tama, crutchy has a php hard on
[10:07:25] <crutchy> php is pp when you have a hardon
[10:06:54] <chromas> cpp. cpp p. p, pp, p!
[10:06:16] <chromas> buffer->flush();
[10:06:08] <crutchy> damn i already flushed it
[10:05:44] <chromas> better check the log
[10:05:29] <crutchy> was probably installing a virus into my toilet
[10:05:13] <crutchy> damn page didn't even load
[10:04:49] * crutchy looks for a subscription button
[10:04:24] * chromas is intrigued by this rating system
[10:04:12] <crutchy> :D
[10:04:06] <Gravis> exactly. fuck you, no stars! \o/
[10:03:56] <crutchy> on your bumfuck website
[10:03:51] <crutchy> its probably so old that nobody has even used it
[10:03:17] <Gravis> oh you guys read korean, right? xD
[10:03:13] <crutchy> lol
[10:03:10] <crutchy> do you seriously gauge a software package by how many stars it gets on some bumfuck website?
[10:01:46] <Gravis> lol. fuck you, no stars! xD http://cfile240.uf.daum.net
[10:00:54] <crutchy> at school we just did basic animation and buttons with event handlers and sstuff
[09:59:36] <crutchy> pretty cool for its time
[09:59:31] <crutchy> it was a programming IDE
[09:59:02] <crutchy> not instructor, publisher
[09:58:51] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Toolbook II Publisher - Filefacts.com
[09:58:50] <crutchy> Gravis, http://www.filefacts.com
[09:57:57] <Gravis> "Asymetrix ToolBook II Instructor" has recieved a rating of "fuck you, no stars" :)
[09:57:14] <crutchy> *disturbed
[09:57:10] * crutchy is diturbed
[09:57:06] <crutchy> lol i still remember the program file
[09:56:58] <crutchy> tb50.exe
[09:56:35] <crutchy> err. yeah
[09:56:19] <crutchy> "wtf don't they make commander keen for commodore!?"
[09:56:18] <Gravis> did you mean "toolbook ii publisher"?
[09:56:01] * crutchy was so jealous
[09:55:52] <crutchy> everyone was getting 286's when i was still using a c64
[09:55:16] <crutchy> (at school)
[09:55:04] <crutchy> in the same year i was introduced to turbo pascal i also did toolbook ii publisher
[09:54:52] * chromas was on MS DOS 3.3 on a 286 until ~1996
[09:54:29] <crutchy> nah it was a windows 3.1 program
[09:54:19] * chromas only used apples at Skool
[09:54:12] <chromas> dunno
[09:54:02] <crutchy> did claris have something to do with toolbox ii publisher?
[09:54:02] <chromas> at least for mice
[09:53:53] <chromas> anything more than a mouthful is a waste
[09:53:18] * crutchy likes his mices like he likes his bewbs... bigger the better
[09:52:47] <crutchy> oh yeah i remember those mices too
[09:52:12] <Gravis> crutchy: instruction set architecture
[09:52:09] <chromas> at least they quit doing that dumb shape where you have to hold your hand like a chevron: http://www.nightfallcrew.com
[09:51:28] <crutchy> ooh i predict it will evolve into Power PCI
[09:51:15] <chromas> even back then they still had one-button mice
[09:51:06] <crutchy> ISA?
[09:50:47] <crutchy> these were cool
[09:50:44] <crutchy> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[09:50:05] <Gravis> software package identifiers.
[09:50:05] <Gravis> PowerPC (an acronym for Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC – Performance Computing, sometimes abbreviated as PPC) is a RISC instruction set architecture created by the 1991 Apple–IBM–Motorola alliance, known as AIM. PowerPC, as an evolving instruction set, has since 2006 been named Power ISA, while the old name naturally lives on, as a legacy trademark for some implementations of Power Architecture based processors, and in
[09:50:04] * chromas remembers ClarisWorks 3.0
[09:49:51] <crutchy> from school
[09:49:48] * crutchy remembers those one piece crapintoshes with the little black and white screen
[09:49:41] <chromas> or like one's a design and one was the actual implementation or something
[09:49:26] <chromas> Wasn't power-pc a derivative of power?
[09:49:04] <Gravis> chromas: they are now on POWER8 or POWER9
[09:49:01] <chromas> Motorola
[09:48:59] <crutchy> wasn't x86
[09:48:52] <crutchy> what did crapintoshes originally run on?
[09:48:51] <Gravis> chromas: PPC never died, it just went to IBM
[09:48:45] <chromas> dammit, x86 sucks86
[09:48:35] <chromas> and Alpha
[09:48:28] <chromas> Power-PC needs a cumback
[09:48:26] <Gravis> crutchy: yeah, that's intel x86 chips
[09:48:06] * crutchy uses crapintosh cpoos
[09:47:41] <Gravis> crutchy: the joke's on you! you have a non-maskable interrupt line right there on your cpu!
[09:46:56] <crutchy> safespacectl --start
[09:46:38] * chromas activates 32-bit protected mode
[09:46:38] <Gravis> i'm certain the snakes will eat those little pigs and maybe go after the roos
[09:46:37] <crutchy> and big lightening rods that stick out of the toilet pipe
[09:46:04] <crutchy> and guinea pig poo
[09:45:53] <chromas> crutchy's protected by snakes and roos
[09:45:43] <Gravis> crutchy_: get up, it's time for you to get murdered
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[09:45:25] * crutchy_ snores loudly
[09:45:15] <chromas> I mean I didn't invent the man page system and it's directory spew
[09:45:15] <Gravis> which is why i recomend we murder crutchy_
[09:44:59] <crutchy_> oh here we go
[09:44:52] <Gravis> chromas: including murder
[09:44:52] <chromas> what
[09:44:38] <Gravis> chromas: didn't invent it? by that logic nothing is off limits
[09:44:32] <crutchy_> Gravis is the G
[09:44:18] <chromas> I meant it in the "G", "man", "home skillet" sense
[09:44:01] <chromas> oh, that works too
[09:43:47] <chromas> I didn't invent it, G
[09:43:31] <Gravis> gross, bro
[09:43:09] <Gravis> oi!
[09:43:08] <chromas> ejaculating pages across different numbered directories
[09:43:08] <crutchy_> oh yeah i never figured out the bracket number thing
[09:43:04] <Gravis> oid
[09:42:56] <chromas> like man 3 systemctl or whatever
[09:42:52] <Gravis> nothing wrong with man pages, just bad man pages
[09:42:48] <chromas> I'm thinking of the numbers
[09:42:32] <crutchy_> fucking longwinded garbage
[09:42:26] * crutchy_ hates man pages
[09:42:04] <crutchy_> like everyone else reads documentation :p
[09:41:47] <crutchy_> he reads code
[09:41:46] <chromas> wow, the man page system sucks donkey balls
[09:41:30] <crutchy_> why would torvalds give a rats about that?
[09:41:11] <Gravis> not code commenting, just documentation
[09:41:00] <Gravis> crutchy_: and the lack of documentation
[09:40:50] <crutchy_> he's a pragmatist
[09:40:47] <chromas> it's with their attitude
[09:40:37] <crutchy_> i doubt torvalds beef is with lack of code commeenting
[09:40:22] <chromas> whether dbus sucks or not, no reason to stuff yet another thing into the kernel
[09:40:21] <Gravis> them*
[09:40:00] <chromas> whew
[09:39:54] <Gravis> well it's also why linus says fuck off to then trying to put kdbus in the kernel
[09:39:51] <crutchy_> they just tell you what the programme *thinks* the code does
[09:39:40] <crutchy_> comments don't tell you anything about what the code does
[09:39:27] <crutchy_> smart guy
[09:39:09] <Gravis> that's what LP says
[09:38:58] <chromas> rtfc
[09:38:55] <chromas> read the source :D
[09:38:47] <crutchy_> code commenting is dumb
[09:38:38] <crutchy_> ooh
[09:38:29] <Gravis> chromas: the internals, not the man page
[09:38:21] <crutchy_> i typically stretch out even the simplest if statement to 3 loc as a convention
[09:38:10] <Gravis> crutchy_: it does matter when it's >250k lines of code
[09:38:07] <chromas> don't look at the manpages
[09:37:52] <Gravis> crutchy_: but perhaps the biggest issue... it's barely documented
[09:37:46] <crutchy_> pfft. number of lines doesn't mean a whole lot
[09:37:21] <Gravis> crutchy_: the shear number of lines in systemd is terrifying
[09:36:39] <Gravis> anyway, i'm going back to the roots
[09:36:20] <Gravis> actually... it is
[09:36:09] <crutchy_> can't be any worse than xorg
[09:35:57] <Gravis> systemd is a fundamental shift in system program design
[09:35:30] <Gravis> no
[09:35:25] <crutchy_> bandwagon stuff maybe
[09:35:17] <crutchy_> yeah i dunno what the big deal is
[09:35:05] <crutchy_> or rather, php's pipes implementation is awesomesauce
[09:35:03] <Gravis> but for all the crap people give systemd, it does provide some features that are nice
[09:34:24] <crutchy_> never been down that road in windows
[09:34:17] <crutchy_> pipes are awesomesauce in linux
[09:33:23] <Gravis> -_-
[09:33:07] <Bender> karma - pipes: 4
[09:33:07] <crutchy_> pipes++
[09:33:01] <crutchy_> stdin/stdout
[09:32:55] <crutchy_> you could do what exec does :p
[09:32:39] <Gravis> crutchy_: i've worked out a decent system using socket files for IPC. still trying to work out the RPC encoding/decoding scheme
[09:32:31] <chromas> we could go back to dcop ;)
[09:32:29] <crutchy_> then suddenly everything had a systemd dependency by virtue of the previous dbus dependency
[09:31:58] <crutchy_> it went to shit when dbus introduced a systemd dependency?
[09:31:28] <crutchy_> seems like all the systemd dependency has arisen moreso from the all the dependency on dbus
[09:30:49] <Gravis> i didn't like dbus before systemd :P
[09:30:24] <crutchy_> i've always wondered why systemd haters didn't take their anger out on dbus
[09:30:15] <Gravis> among other things
[09:30:06] <chromas> journald?
[09:29:59] <Gravis> bloated*
[09:29:46] <Gravis> chromas: too bad it's a bloat piece of shit
[09:27:03] * chromas suspects a person could modify journal-file.h and journal-file.c to get text files logs
[09:23:54] <chromas> that's when the fun will really, really begin :D
[09:22:29] <Gravis> that's when i can start replacing the components that comprise systemd with something sane
[09:21:40] <Gravis> that's when the fun will really begin. :)
[09:20:47] <Gravis> now, i need to look into making RPC via IPC easier so that i can dislodge dbus
[09:19:49] <chromas> his -> crutchy_
[09:19:44] <Gravis> nope
[09:19:37] * chromas suspects his connection died
[09:17:55] <chromas> but it did take awhile to boot up before I could start a vm
[09:17:35] <Gravis> crutchy_: i'm not sure how you do things in AU but in the US we just give people money, not douse them in it. ;)
[09:17:31] <chromas> I tried vmware once. I had to sign up for email spam. I don't recall if I ever got it working right. I could just be a dunce
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[09:16:08] <Gravis> they got themselves into a bit of trouble
[09:15:56] <Gravis> but vmware is trying to fight it tooth and nail
[09:14:53] <Gravis> chromas: well it's worked enough to keep many router firmwares open
[09:14:10] <Gravis> you can keep all the modded copies you want
[09:14:03] <crutchy_> Gravis, yeah. i guess it works if you got lots of cash to splash on lawyers n stuff
[09:14:02] <chromas> it's only illegal if the copyright holder has a pile of money
[09:13:58] <Gravis> it's the "copy" part of copyright that is the issue
[09:13:34] <crutchy_> chromas, that too eh :p
[09:13:09] <chromas> well that's true of all 'IP', irredisgardless of the internet
[09:13:07] <Gravis> crutchy_: the point isn't to control who can use it, the point is to control who can use then redistribute it without releasing the code
[09:12:19] <Gravis> ;)
[09:12:19] <crutchy_> cos really when you think about it, all code on the internet is unlicensed anyway. people who use the gpl just like to pretend they have some level of control over their code, when really they don't
[09:12:12] * chromas copies and relicenses it to cc0, then wtfpl
[09:11:11] <Gravis> that's what my code is
[09:11:02] <crutchy_> i like unlicense personally
[09:09:43] <Gravis> i just wanted this so i could make some event driven command line programs that wouldn't need another lib or have "YOU MUST USE MIT/GPL/APACHE/etc LICENSE NOW!" bullshit
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[09:07:57] <Gravis> their graphics subsystem is a work of art
[09:07:46] <Gravis> Qt is exceptionally extensive in what it covers
[09:07:22] <Gravis> not a chance
[09:06:42] <chromas> now you gotta replace Qt :D
[09:06:36] <chromas> woohoo
[09:06:02] <Gravis> but now, it's all safe and the code/binary is (relatively) small
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[09:05:03] <Gravis> well i'm just glad i worked out all that shit. before i was getting segfaults and at one point some thread safety code caused the binary to ballon from ~5KB to ~20KB D:
[09:01:40] <chromas> oh I was bitching about cpp, not your code ;)
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[09:00:06] <Gravis> chromas: no worries about that... that's just to demo the code.
[08:59:30] <Gravis> chromas: yeah, i wanted something that wasn't bound by some clown's license, so i had to make something from scratch
[08:59:02] <chromas> with their weird stream shit that overloads the bitshift operator for some reason
[08:58:49] <crutchy> or that
[08:58:41] <chromas> it's cpp
[08:58:35] <chromas> num num
[08:58:34] * crutchy is reminded why he's not a fan of C
[08:58:26] <crutchy> "std::cout << "num: " << num << std::endl;"
[08:58:26] <Gravis> chromas: same concept
[08:58:22] <chromas> Probably more lightweight I suppose
[08:58:08] <chromas> How does it compare to Boost lib's signal/slut mechanism?
[08:57:41] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03pdtk/example.cpp at master · GravisZro/pdtk · GitHub
[08:57:40] <Gravis> crutchy: here is the example code and output: https://github.com
[08:57:16] <crutchy> and hooks
[08:57:06] <crutchy> also enables ipc
[08:57:02] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Signals Slots | Qt 4.8
[08:57:01] <Gravis> crutchy: it's like this: http://doc.qt.io
[08:57:00] <crutchy> its ok. most ide's manage it for you
[08:56:31] <Gravis> oh wow... i didn't realize it was that bad
[08:56:16] <crutchy> its what windows applications (used to?) use to drive events
[08:56:12] <Gravis> yes
[08:56:04] <chromas> ipc?
[08:55:53] <Gravis> crutchy: that's more similar to unix sockets
[08:55:38] <Gravis> crutchy: no, it's nothing like that
[08:55:36] <crutchy> hmm yeah it might be google actually
[08:55:31] <chromas> maybe it's google
[08:55:28] <chromas> you sure it's the bot?
[08:55:19] <crutchy> chromas, one from a dodgy bot that truncates it
[08:55:04] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Messages and Message Queues (Windows)
[08:55:02] <crutchy> https://msdn.microsoft.com
[08:54:58] <chromas> what kind of uri has ellipses in it?
[08:54:47] <chromas> lol
[08:54:46] <Gravis> crutchy: it's like Qt's signals and slots
[08:54:27] <Gravis> 404 - File or directory not found.
[08:54:24] * chromas recalls Windows Messaging
[08:54:21] <crutchy> pfft
[08:54:11] <exec_> [google] https://msdn.microsoft.com(v=vs.85).asp...
[08:54:09] <crutchy> ~g windows api event messages
[08:53:48] <Gravis> crutchy: link?
[08:53:38] <crutchy> erm. the other windows messaging
[08:53:20] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03Wiki: Windows Messaging
[08:53:19] <Gravis> crutchy: ehh? https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:53:09] <chromas> >:D
[08:53:08] <chromas> Does it work in Java?
[08:52:53] * crutchy clicks
[08:52:39] <crutchy> is it kinda like windows messaging or summin?
[08:52:26] <Gravis> it's public domain code, so it's good for everything :)
[08:52:05] <Gravis> for about 10KB, you can have a full event loop
[08:52:02] <crutchy> @ ShittyButthole
[08:51:56] <crutchy> lol
[08:51:15] <ShittyButthole> ^ 03pdtk/object.h at master · GravisZro/pdtk · GitHub
[08:51:14] <Gravis> so i managed to reduce the complexity of the signal/slot stuff in my toolkit. :) https://github.com
[08:50:08] <Gravis> eww
[08:49:47] <crutchy> vegemite will put balls on your hair
[08:48:49] <Gravis> dangerously, not suicidal
[08:46:39] * crutchy offers Gravis some vegemite
[08:45:34] <Gravis> i live dangerously
[08:45:15] <crutchy> careful. you might make the irc server excplode
[08:44:42] <Gravis> crutchy: nah, you are thinking of \\p\\r\\i\\s\\o\\n
[08:44:32] <crutchy> he's just tilted his head
[08:44:19] <crutchy> its an optical illusion
[08:44:13] <crutchy> nah all the bars are still there
[08:42:40] <chromas> You may be the first person to 'excape' prison from irc
[08:42:12] <chromas> there ya go!
[08:41:53] <Gravis> chromas: like this? \p\r\i\s\o\n
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[07:54:13] <chromas> He just used an excape code
[07:53:51] <chromas> "When Drug kingpin Joaquin 'El Chapo' excaped from a maximum-security Mexican prison"
[07:53:40] <chromas> lol
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[05:30:33] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, what will become of the poor advertising exec? Who shall mourn the fallen marketing director? Why is not more attention being paid to this terrible, oncoming tragedy?
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[05:21:16] * SpallsHurgenson shoots first, but not before "re-perceptualizing" chromas in a golden bikini
[05:20:29] <chromas> it's from the re-re-re-re-Lucassed dialog
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[05:17:15] <SpallsHurgenson> is that one of those statements that's only true from a certain point of view?
[05:12:24] * chromas raises an Out-of_Rejoinders exception
[05:11:23] <chromas> No, son, the stanchion killed your father!
[05:06:10] <SpallsHurgenson> "You're not my father, you can't tell me what to do!"
[05:05:02] <chromas> Sir, I'm gonna have to ask you to step away from the stanchion
[05:02:03] * SpallsHurgenson whimpers in disbelief as he clutches a nearby stanchion for support, "No, that's not true! That's impossible!"
[04:51:08] <chromas> even unicode has pants >:)
[04:50:41] <SpallsHurgenson> eeep! a 👖+5!
[04:50:24] * chromas chases SpallsHurgenson around with👖
[04:46:26] <SpallsHurgenson> its a bunch of boxes running around through boxes attacking other boxes!
[04:46:11] <SirFinkus> lots more options for monsters
[04:46:04] <chromas> 👻
[04:45:59] <SirFinkus> a roguelike with CJK characters would be neat
[04:44:08] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god... I just had an image of emoji invading nethack
[04:43:23] <chromas> ooh; needs unicode
[04:43:10] * chromas installs; is blown away by the ascii resolution
[04:42:34] <SpallsHurgenson> that would explain why the minimum requirements specify two nvidia 980s with 4GB each
[04:41:17] <SirFinkus> occulus rift support too
[04:40:57] <SpallsHurgenson> lots of SSAO and other lighting effects to make that @ sign look super-realistic :)
[04:39:57] <SirFinkus> looks like crysis now
[04:39:51] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's a huge patch
[04:39:34] <chromas> is it 3d yet
[04:37:28] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there goes productivity
[04:34:02] <BobLoblawLawBot> ^ 03NetHack 3.6.0: Release Notes
[04:34:01] <SirFinkus> ooooh shit http://www.nethack.org
[04:29:08] * SpallsHurgenson envisions a ballgag, pinkfrills, and one hand holding a bottle of Zima and the other a "Vote for Trump" sign
[04:19:08] * SpallsHurgenson reperceptualizes Deucalion into a leather gimp-suit
[04:17:06] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh! that's just ripe for abuse! :)
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[04:16:02] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you can read into my blitherings whatever suits you..... that is your perception.
[04:15:59] * exec_ cohesively poops a bathtub of NCommander for everybody_else
[04:15:54] <cmn32480> ~gnight everybody_else
[04:15:54] <SpallsHurgenson> have milky dreams, cmn32480 :)
[04:15:40] * exec_ fanatically pours a used franger of g'day juice for SpallsHurgenson
[04:15:39] <cmn32480> ~gnight SpallsHurgenson
[04:15:38] * exec_ suspiciously offers a buzz saw of $insert_beverage_here to spalls
[04:15:36] <cmn32480> ~gnight spalls
[04:15:28] * SpallsHurgenson goes back to fantasizing about massive breasts
[04:15:18] <SpallsHurgenson> but surely nobody would consider ME to be those things either :)
[04:14:44] <cmn32480> and on that note... me go sleepytime!
[04:14:20] <SpallsHurgenson> well, unless you mean "common: adj. uncouth, vulgar, rough, boorish" :)
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[04:12:48] * SpallsHurgenson denies he is in anyway "common"
[04:12:36] <SpallsHurgenson> common: adj. usual, eeveryday, ordinary
[04:11:32] <Deucalion> Oh my word.... there are times I do not want to be surrounded by my common man :/
[04:11:13] * SpallsHurgenson glares at Deucalion, "stop distracting me! I'm trying to torment cmn32480 now!"
[04:10:16] <SpallsHurgenson> Jijjlies! Jellos! Bouncers! Balloons!
[04:10:09] <cmn32480> the poops are so explosive I could probably get liftoff if I am not carful
[04:09:49] <chromas> ♪Rocket man...♫
[04:09:40] * Deucalion goes to jiggle elsewhere.... shit...
[04:08:52] * SpallsHurgenson tries to stifle his giggles
[04:08:49] <chromas> milk-free lactose
[04:08:38] <cmn32480> 'Mmmmmmmm Lactaind milk!
[04:08:25] * SpallsHurgenson fills up a nice big glass and shoves it in cmn32480s direction
[04:07:58] <SpallsHurgenson> sssssuuuuurrrrreeee!
[04:07:47] <cmn32480> lactose free milk
[04:07:37] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh.... have some more milk!
[04:07:11] <cmn32480> the horrendous explosive poops
[04:06:45] <SpallsHurgenson> that depends on what your reaction to lactose is
[04:06:27] <cmn32480> can I get that in lactose free ice cream, please?
[04:06:16] <cmn32480> mmmmm oreo
[04:06:04] * SpallsHurgenson gives cmn32480 an Oreo(tm) brand sandwich cookie for paying attention
[04:02:59] <cmn32480> everybody except SpallsHurgenson
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[03:56:39] <SpallsHurgenson> like I'd stop them. They're in charge here; I know who wears the pants in THIS household :)
[03:55:13] <Deucalion> Careful... it'll be up in your roof space before you know it
[03:54:40] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, kitty!
[03:54:19] <exec_> 10Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 29°F, partly cloudy, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 70% - partly cloudy (19°F:40°F), mostly sunny (21°F:31°F), partly cloudy (27°F:32°F), showers (33°F:38°F)
[03:54:18] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[03:53:57] <exec_> 10Portland, ME, USA - currently 36°F, clear, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 69% - Monday clear with periodic clouds (28°F:53°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (25°F:40°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (36°F:43°F), Thursday scattered showers (38°F:50°F)
[03:53:54] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[03:53:51] <exec_> 10Portland, TN, USA - currently 39°F, clear, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 90% - Monday clear (34°F:57°F), Tuesday sunny (43°F:61°F), Wednesday scattered showers (42°F:58°F), Thursday partly cloudy (48°F:63°F)
[03:53:48] <Bytram> ~weather portland, tn
[03:53:45] <exec_> 10Portland, OR, USA - currently 57°F, cloudy, wind SW at 9 mph, humidity 82% - Monday rain (54°F:60°F), Tuesday rain (51°F:58°F), Wednesday showers (45°F:52°F), Thursday rain (43°F:48°F)
[03:53:43] <Bytram> ~weather portland, or
[03:53:39] <exec_> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 45°F, cloudy, wind N at 12 mph, humidity 56% - Monday cloudy (39°F:55°F), Tuesday cloudy (32°F:43°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (42°F:48°F), Thursday partly cloudy (44°F:55°F)
[03:53:37] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[03:53:33] <exec_> 10Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 46°F, clear with periodic clouds, wind W at 2 mph, humidity 53% - Monday clear with periodic clouds (36°F:56°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (40°F:52°F), Wednesday mostly cloudy (45°F:54°F), Thursday partly cloudy (45°F:58°F)
[03:53:31] <Bytram> ~weather baltimore
[03:53:21] * Deucalion gives SpallsHurgenson a kitten - I dare you to say no
[03:52:38] * SpallsHurgenson gives cmn32480 a milk jug for participating
[03:52:32] <Deucalion> Too late to go all number rank and file
[03:51:26] <cmn32480> 80085
[03:49:48] <SpallsHurgenson> (erm, I think I used cans twice... replace one with canteloupes)
[03:49:29] <SpallsHurgenson> Truly, you have nothing to say aout cans, chesticles, racks, ballons, dirty pillows, jubblies, cha-chas, tee-tees, jubblies?
[03:48:36] <Bytram> now is that a comment, or not?
[03:48:04] <Bytram> no comment
[03:47:50] <SpallsHurgenson> Such an important topic as airbags, bikini stuffers, dairy pillows, duds, sweater stretchers, zeppelins, chesticles should not be allowed to go by uncommented
[03:45:59] * SpallsHurgenson demands we have a discussion about these bazungas, these bazooms, these hooters, these sweater-puppies, these cans, these chumbawumbas!
[03:44:36] <SpallsHurgenson> aha! it was juggs! great jiggly juggs! Booblies! Knockers! Na-nas! Funbags! Tatas! Mammaries! Gazungas! Headlites! Busts! Melons! TITS!
[03:44:19] <Deucalion> Ahh! Yes! You are correct.... your desire to donate to me an entire new PC :D
[03:43:24] <SpallsHurgenson> no... no... I'm pretty sure mention was made of something that I need to focus on
[03:42:52] <Deucalion> No - just the usual rambling
[03:42:32] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody said something important in this channel, something vital
[03:42:21] <Deucalion> Had to tack that on there
[03:42:19] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... wait... I'm missing something here
[03:42:07] <Deucalion> Dark side....
[03:41:46] <Deucalion> Something. something, it is best not to devote your entire energy to chasing that which you most desire, instead let it fly away and come back to you.
[03:41:42] <SpallsHurgenson> less success trying to get the flatmate to understand the damn thing
[03:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> success, got hbogo, showtime and starz to work with the roku... still no go on the mobile app :(
[03:39:55] <Deucalion> Such is life :)
[03:39:16] <chromas> my own perceptions aren't as perky, though :(
[03:39:06] <Deucalion> Wow, that was a terrible paraphrase :D
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[03:37:22] <Deucalion> chromas, if you are looking at my juggs in hope of finding juggs.... do not stare at the juggs for that is impossible to see, realise there are no juggs only yourself and your own perceptions.
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[03:26:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shops are Selling Devices with the Replicant Mobile OS Pre-Installed - http://sylnt.us - more-freedom-out-of-the-box
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[03:23:15] <Bender> karma - cheating: 9
[03:23:15] <chromas> cheating++
[03:23:02] <Bender> Added quote 622
[03:23:02] <BobLoblawLawBot> !grab chromas
[03:22:38] <Bytram> nograb!
[03:22:35] <Bender> karma - chromas: 137
[03:22:35] <Bytram> chromas++ Touche!
[03:20:01] <chromas> we were looking at your juggs, not your snake ;)
[03:17:48] <Deucalion> (mirrored shield Medusa ref there for those that haven't been subject to Greek mythology)
[03:15:30] <Deucalion> My word, does my snake hair look bad in this?
[03:09:57] <Bytram> 'Mother, Jugs, and Speed'
[03:09:30] * chromas now sees four juggs
[03:09:24] <chromas> ooh, hold it an an angle
[03:08:49] * Bytram holds up a mirror for Deucalion to see himself
[03:05:31] * Deucalion glances around
[03:03:52] <exec_> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[03:03:25] <Bytram> ~submit http://www.theregister.co.uk
[03:03:16] <exec_> 10Boston, MA, USA - currently 46°F, cloudy, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 51% - Monday cloudy (38°F:55°F), Tuesday cloudy (32°F:43°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (42°F:47°F), Thursday partly cloudy (44°F:54°F)
[03:03:10] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[03:02:05] <BadCoderFinger> There's an app for that!
[03:02:03] * chromas is disappoint; goes to hell
[03:01:50] <BadCoderFinger> Indulgences? When the Catholic church was basically selling forgiveness for sins (some yet to be committed)?
[03:01:27] <chromas> wait a minute, it's all bribing sinners in here!
[03:01:14] * chromas buys his way into heaven...
[03:01:08] <BadCoderFinger> Probably true.
[03:00:42] <Bytram> who?
[03:00:27] <cmn32480> Back? they never left!
[02:59:06] <BadCoderFinger> Wait, indulgences are back? I knew it!
[02:58:48] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:58:43] <chromas> church is free, but it has in-app-purchases
[02:46:23] <BadCoderFinger> I see church as a once-a-week sort of thing at best.
[02:45:21] <BadCoderFinger> Which I've no real use for.
[02:44:50] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I have Hulu for the Mrs., Netflix and youtube for me. There are well over 500 religious channels!
[02:39:49] <SpallsHurgenson> (it desn't help that the Roku mobile app absolutely refuses to see the roku device too... using the remote sucks)
[02:38:03] <BobLoblawLawBot> ^ 03Six years in the slammer for SilkRoad-skimming secret agent • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:38:01] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[02:37:50] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, presumably the netflix thing might be nice... but the whole thing wreaks of personal-data-harvesting and nickle-n-diming customers so much I'd rather just use the old XP box I've got hooked up to the tv
[02:37:18] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, funny how youtube-dl gets the video without the ads.
[02:36:54] <SpallsHurgenson> I've never seen adverts on youtube, google or otherwise
[02:36:41] <BadCoderFinger> Just the usual google skippable ads.
[02:36:26] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I don't use those channels. The youtube one works well enough, but mine doesn't have ads inserted.
[02:35:23] <SpallsHurgenson> they even managed to insert adverts into youtube videos (which you can't skip, despite the tantilizing "skip add" button)
[02:34:46] <SpallsHurgenson> all of the channels require seperate registrations (all in the most annoying ways possible) and almost all of them require seperate pay-for-subscriptions
[02:34:06] <BadCoderFinger> But it's probably not for everybody.
[02:33:58] <BadCoderFinger> I love my roku.
[02:33:50] <SirFinkus> my dad loves his
[02:33:48] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls
[02:29:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I hearby declare the money I spent on my roku to be wasted; what a stupid device
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[02:03:13] <Bytram> again, no argument there.
[02:01:45] <BadCoderFinger> From a "security company" that's unacceptable. Of course, McAfee is a security company like Nancy Grace is a journalist.
[01:58:14] <Bytram> oh, no argument there!
[01:56:55] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, there is that. But that is really sloppy.
[01:55:58] <Bender> karma - bytram: 67
[01:55:58] <cmn32480> bytram++
[01:55:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ICANN Suspends piratebay.org Over Lack of Domain Verification - http://sylnt.us - just-a-simple-arrrrgh-ument
[01:52:16] <Bytram> i suspect it was put in for testing purposes and was not removed prior to it getting shipped.
[01:51:54] <Bytram> do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignoreance.
[01:51:28] <BadCoderFinger> Oh that is just magic. That's gotta be a deliberate backdoor.
[01:51:26] <Bytram> so, by installing a security manager, you get a wide open security hole. FAIL.
[01:50:24] <Bytram> y password”, the advisory states.
[01:50:24] <Bytram> Designated CVE-2015-8024, the bug covers “McAfee Enterprise Security Manager (ESM), Enterprise Security Manager/Log Manager (ESMLM), and Enterprise Security Manager/Receiver (ESMREC) 9.3.x before 9.3.2MR19, 9.4.x before 9.4.2MR9, and 9.5.x before 9.5.0MR8, when configured to use Active Directory or LDAP authentication sources, allow remote attackers to bypass authentication by logging in with the username 'NGCP|NGCP|NGCP;' and an
[01:49:37] <BadCoderFinger> I don't know what it does with all those CPU cycles, but it's not finding viruses or watching security holes.
[01:49:16] <Bytram> whether or not it does something useful is another question alltogether.
[01:49:04] <Bytram> and given the responsiveness (or lack thereof) recently, it doesn't just sit there dormant, either.
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[01:48:35] <Bytram> sadly, yes. It's part of the boot-up-process on all my registers at work. :/
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[01:48:10] <BadCoderFinger> Wait, MacAfee is still being sold?
[01:47:37] * chromas runs off to rewrite the internet to use dbus everahwhere
[01:46:55] <Bender> karma - chromas: 136
[01:46:55] <Bytram> chromas++ insightful
[01:46:31] <chromas> dbus is still trying to get into the kernel
[01:46:13] <chromas> "user-space networking is designed to get TCP/IP out of the kernel space"
[01:46:07] <BobLoblawLawBot> ^ 03McAfee Security Manager lets anybody bypass managers' security • The Register
[01:46:06] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:46:05] <Bytram> didn't want to waste time that I could be here, instead!
[01:45:13] <BadCoderFinger> That was quick, heh!
[01:43:22] <Bytram> back
[01:35:59] <Bytram> timr to do the dishes. brb
[01:35:10] <Bytram> I work retail. they extend store hours so as to get more people shopping who otherwise might not be able to get into the store what with kids and work and all.
[01:33:58] <BadCoderFinger> Heh. My hours tend to be late. Bites, but I'm a contractor, so they're billable hours.
[01:33:24] <Bytram> could be worse, I *am* a morning person... I'd rather be a work at 8 / 7 / or 6am than have to work until midnight!
[01:32:53] <BadCoderFinger> Ouch.
[01:32:39] <Bytram> holiday hours mean, for me, much earlier in the AM to be at work.
[01:32:26] <BadCoderFinger> I know that feeling well!
[01:32:10] <Bytram> good, but more than a bit tired
[01:31:44] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Bytram, how are you?
[01:31:13] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: g'day!
[01:30:58] <Bytram> rock on!
[01:30:49] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[01:29:52] <Bytram> rock on!
[01:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima get myself an adult beverage and watch some kim possible. that's just how i roll.
[01:27:15] <Bytram> idunno. am reading now.
[01:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> because the old one wasn't working?
[01:24:54] <BobLoblawLawBot> ^ 03Nokia, ARM, Enea craft new TCP/IP stack for the cloud • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[01:24:53] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
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[01:24:03] <Bytram> what did you mean by '21 to go' ??
[01:23:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:23:53] <Bytram> back
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[01:20:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah but now i wanna go lay down and it's too early
[01:20:29] <Bytram> oh yeah, dinner. Mine should be ready by now... brb
[01:20:18] <Bytram> nice
[01:19:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> just done eatin some dinner and cinnamon rolls
[01:19:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: whazup buzz?
[01:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> 21 to go
[01:18:46] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:18:11] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5979, owned by brodrigues
[01:18:11] <Bytram> !uid
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