#Soylent | Logs for 2015-08-17

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[00:02:22] <SpallsHurgenson> today I spent my day productively bopping squirrels on the head with a rubber-mallet squeaky toy. It was something that needed doing.
[00:08:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tropical Diseases Make a Comeback in US - http://sylnt.us - at-least-its-not-catscratch-fever
[00:13:35] <SpallsHurgenson> woot, Tropical Diseases! I love that band; what was that one song they did? "Rot Your Dick Off" and it actually did? Man, music from back when music was music! :)
[00:32:10] <SirFinkus> EF must be back from his tour of the the amazon rainforest
[00:35:37] <SpallsHurgenson> interesting (if of questionable accuracy) http://localghost.org
[00:35:38] <systemd> ^ 03A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10 - root@localghost:~#
[00:36:03] <SpallsHurgenson> and on a vaguely related note: http://www.pcauthority.com.au
[00:36:05] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft can disable your pirated games and illegal hardware - PC Tech Authority
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[01:28:19] <SirFinkus> ☆☆☆ is now the most profitable
[01:28:36] <SirFinkus> I need more data
[01:29:32] <SpallsHurgenson> remember, its not a real problem until you sell your house to feed the habit :)
[01:30:19] <SirFinkus> well, that's the fun part, I have the key to the machine
[01:31:09] <SirFinkus> if I didn't, I'd be out $2.55
[01:34:16] <SpallsHurgenson> a few more spins and it'll be $3... and then you're talking REAL money
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[02:36:09] * SpallsHurgenson slumps back into his chair and face palms
[02:38:02] <SirFinkus> windows?
[02:40:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - England to Test Charge-as-you-drive 'Electric Motorways' - http://sylnt.us - here-come-the-jetsons
[02:40:39] <SpallsHurgenson> flatmates :)
[03:00:48] * SpallsHurgenson rolls some dice
[03:02:45] <Bytram> Sprechen jeman Deutsch?
[03:03:18] <SpallsHurgenson> Nein, wir sprechen keine Deutsch heir
[03:03:24] <Bytram> " Es gibt auch eine App, allerdings nur für Android-Nutzer im Google Play Store, in Apples App Store sei das Programm abgewiesen worden, sagt Gomperts."
[03:03:53] <Bytram> sagst das man kann kaufen app von apple order nicht?
[03:04:45] <Bytram> it looks to me that the app is available on google-play for android, but it is forbidden(?) in Apple's store
[03:05:00] <SpallsHurgenson> Ich habe keine Ahnung
[03:05:18] <Bytram> Ahnung?
[03:05:29] <Bytram> Ich verstehe nicht.
[03:05:42] <Bytram> idee?
[03:05:57] <SpallsHurgenson> Nicht Schuld mir. Ich bin mit Google.
[03:06:20] <Bytram> es tut mir leit!
[03:07:49] <SpallsHurgenson> see, I had 'idee' originally, but then google told me 'ahnung'.
[03:09:36] <Bytram> guess we shouldn't believe everything we hear
[03:09:46] <Bytram> http://www.dict.cc
[03:09:48] <systemd> ^ 03dict.cc | abgewiesen | Wrterbuch Englisch-Deutsch
[03:09:53] <Bytram> refused
[03:09:55] <Bytram> dimissed
[03:09:57] <Bytram> rejected
[03:10:09] <Bytram> sure looks like Apple said Nein!
[03:15:26] * SpallsHurgenson blames Microsoft
[03:23:55] <SpallsHurgenson> so what app are we talking about?
[03:25:14] cmn32480 is now known as cmn32480|Beach_day
[03:25:52] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: the one mentioned in this story: http://www.spiegel.de
[03:25:53] <systemd> ^ 03Chaos Communication Camp: Aktivistin Women on Waves - SPIEGEL ONLINE
[03:26:36] <Bytram> if you figure out what it is, put out a message on #editorial if you would, or if the story has already gone live, reply to the story with the info.
[03:26:55] <Bytram> s/reply/post a comment/
[03:27:25] <Bytram> and with that, I'm going to call it a night.
[03:27:33] <Bytram> take it easy everyone!
[03:28:11] <Bytram> http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com
[03:28:12] <systemd> ^ 03Soylent hits back at legal threat: ‘We display Prop 65 warnings'
[03:28:36] <Bytram> that's not *US*, btw!
[03:28:55] <Bytram> g'night
[03:31:06] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, abortion-by-drone :)
[03:34:44] <takyon> http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com
[03:36:03] <SpallsHurgenson> woman_holding_up_glass_of_sludge_to_mouth_but_not_actually_seen_allowing_it_into_her_body.jpg
[04:03:54] <chromas> ["kelly bundy waist away ad" clip not found]
[04:04:13] <chromas> "Mmmm, vomit!"
[04:17:21] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:17:21] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft replaces Windows 10 patch update, won't say why • The Register
[04:30:58] <SpallsHurgenson> Windows 10... it's free if your time and personal data aren't worth anything to you
[04:32:51] <takyon> THAT's right!
[04:32:55] <takyon> time to install
[04:34:26] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it! your computer has so much to live for!
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[04:36:37] * SpallsHurgenson calls up the NPCC hotline and reports takyon "He's installing Windows10 on it as we speak! Please, send somebody quick with a Linux Mint DVD!"
[04:37:24] <takyon> that's so old skool
[04:37:29] <takyon> we use USB drives now
[04:38:41] <SpallsHurgenson> optical drives have the advantage in that they can't pick up nasty infections from dirty USB ports :)
[04:38:52] <SpallsHurgenson> s/drives/discs/
[04:38:54] <exec> <SpallsHurgenson> optical discs have the advantage in that they can't pick up nasty infections from dirty USB ports :)
[04:39:44] <takyon> a malicious attacker could scratch data into the disc
[04:41:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stomach is the Way to a Woman's Heart, Too - http://sylnt.us - hungry-for-love
[04:42:25] <SpallsHurgenson> so THAT'S why they always make me buy 'em dinner first :)
[04:44:23] <takyon> this is why I open up my vic.. lovers surgically
[04:46:34] <SpallsHurgenson> not at the dinner table, I hope. That's unhygenic
[04:55:33] <geotti_away> SpallsHurgenson: there's USB drives with write protection. Quite handy little things.
[04:55:52] <geotti_away> jailbreak++
[04:55:52] <Bender> karma - jailbreak: 2
[04:57:52] <SpallsHurgenson> won't protect against the new breed of malware that hijacks the firmware
[04:58:21] <geotti_away> How would that work, if the drive does not accept writes?
[04:59:36] <geotti_away> it's you know, like disks and casettes... you need to flip that switch/tape that hole
[04:59:37] <SpallsHurgenson> for most USBs with write-protect, that just protects the storage area, not the firmware.
[05:00:09] <geotti_away> that's interesting... You know any that protect all writes?
[05:00:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I haven't really looked into it. I just avoid using foreign USB devices in my computers :)
[05:01:40] <geotti_away> hm... checks the cruzer edges...
[05:01:48] <SpallsHurgenson> to be fair, I'm not aware that there is any widespread use of BadUSB in any malware either
[05:02:30] <geotti_away> yeah, but that's a valid point...
[05:02:57] <geotti_away> i mean it would be misleading, if that write-protect doesn't work for disabling write protection in the firmware...
[05:03:05] * geotti_away readies the lawsuit
[05:03:31] <SpallsHurgenson> like most firmware, security wasn't given major consideration
[05:04:01] <SpallsHurgenson> (although from what I recall, for most flashdrives, the "write-only" switches aren't that secure either)
[05:04:02] <geotti_away> well, but these are the products that explicitly have a read/write switch... so I'd expect that to work globally or be notified
[05:04:32] <geotti_away> like switch to cdrom emulation mode or something
[05:06:22] <SpallsHurgenson> from what I understand, its not so much a "we aren't protecting it" as badly written firmware
[05:07:21] <geotti_away> lol guess what, you don't need write protection
[05:07:22] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[05:07:47] <geotti_away> http://superuser.com check the first quote
[05:07:48] <systemd> ^ 03windows 7 - How to remove write protection from sandisk cruzer switch pen drive? - Super User ( http://superuser.com )
[05:08:06] <geotti_away> it becomes read-only by itself hehe
[05:11:20] <SpallsHurgenson> if I have to transfer files to a foreign machine by thumdrive, I just toss the drive afterwards (or tell the person they can keep it... earns me brownie points with 'em, so bonus :)
[05:12:09] <geotti_away> Yeah... but that gets expensive, if we're talking bout 64GB+
[05:12:34] <SpallsHurgenson> usually I don't need to give 'em files that big :)
[05:12:56] <geotti_away> but you do get bonus points for that.. like a 10x multiplier
[05:14:55] <geotti_away> they should really rename find my iphone to find my spouse...
[05:15:25] <geotti_away> >:]
[05:15:43] <geotti_away> (i hope she never finds out)
[05:16:26] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently imation-brand "Ironkey" flash drives are designed to resist badUSB (they require a cryptographic key to update the firmware)
[05:17:12] <geotti_away> but do they have write-protect?
[05:19:45] <geotti_away> wow, first time I successfully jailbroke an iphone without having to restore everything after doing that
[05:19:53] <geotti_away> *progress*
[05:20:16] <geotti_away> tea++
[05:20:16] <Bender> karma - tea: 490
[05:21:19] <geotti_away> Spalls, you, by any chance, have experience with Pentaho Kettle/PDI/Talend/Spago or the like?
[05:22:51] <SpallsHurgenson> not particularly
[05:23:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I generate data, I don't analyze it :)
[05:24:24] <geotti_away> i have a csv, which contains multiple schemas/tables and i need to extract just lines with specific (variable) values in a field to one and the rest to others... was doing it in python, but then the guy decided that he wants to compare sales data with previous years, not just fix the files...
[05:24:31] <geotti_away> yeah, me to, usually
[05:25:01] <geotti_away> but kettle looks nice with that gui graph.. just have to figure out how to add conditionals there
[05:25:16] * SpallsHurgenson recommends Excel :)
[05:25:40] <geotti_away> yeah... but we're on macs, so without non-modal windows that's a big pain in the ass
[05:26:15] <geotti_away> <do action in form>, <close form>, <select some rows>, <reopen form>, <click button in form>...
[05:26:57] <geotti_away> and I'd also want to stay in control, because the format of this csv changes regularly and I'd like to charge him every time >;)
[05:26:58] <SpallsHurgenson> OSX supports modal windows. I know because I seem to run into 'em everytime I'm forced to use a mac...
[05:27:07] <geotti_away> yeah, but not non-modal window
[05:27:15] <geotti_away> like in excel VBA I mean
[05:27:56] <geotti_away> so maybe in open/libreoffice, but i didn't collect any experience with developing forms for that yet, and i need to pay for electricity by tomorrow
[05:29:50] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of which...
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[05:30:33] * geotti_away feels left alone
[05:30:44] <geotti_away> ok laters then
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[06:43:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Admits No-Fly List is Implementation of Pre-Crime - http://sylnt.us - minority-report
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[07:53:33] <chromas> "Saw VII should have a scene where some poor bastard is forced to stare at a Windows 10 File Explorer window at full brightness."
[07:57:46] <JamesNZ> That would be torture.
[07:59:21] <crutchy> he would commit suicide instantly
[08:44:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California To Require Mandatory Water Efficient Shower Heads - http://sylnt.us - taking-a-bath-on-water-rates
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[10:02:43] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:02:45] <systemd> ^ 03Western Australia (Pilbara Region) - Tcopter on the Desert Feet Tour - YouTube
[10:03:28] <crutchy> would love to visit this place one day
[10:25:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:25:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1574
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[10:46:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dallas Buyers Club Case Dealt Blow by Australian Court - http://sylnt.us - taking-the-vig-from-the-mafiaa
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[11:11:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;weather
[11:11:19] <MrPlow> Today: Variable clouds with scattered thunderstorms. High 87F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Tomorrow: Partly cloudy with afternoon showers or thunderstorms. High 86F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
[11:25:32] <crutchy> been a while since i used my bot dev vm on my lappy
[11:25:45] <crutchy> jared@debian:~/git/exec-irc-bot$ git pull
[11:25:46] <crutchy> remote: Counting objects: 217, done.
[11:29:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, been a while since christmas or so since i had a working SN dev vm
[11:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^insert commas as you feel necessary
[11:34:10] <crutchy> commas are overrated
[11:34:29] <crutchy> aw crap
[11:34:43] <crutchy> merge conflicts :(
[11:35:00] <crutchy> in commits that i have nfi what i did anymore :(
[11:35:09] <crutchy> or why
[11:36:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[11:36:35] <crutchy> hmm. one's easy
[11:39:31] <crutchy> ah yeah i was fucking around with piped commands
[11:39:49] <crutchy> dunno why i didn't already commit that stuff :/
[11:41:44] <crutchy> hmm
[11:41:53] <crutchy> can anyone else ssh into github?
[11:42:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea. never tried.
[11:42:19] <crutchy> was working couple of minutes ago
[11:42:21] <crutchy> then got
[11:42:22] <crutchy> ssh: Could not resolve hostname github.com: Name or service not known
[11:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh thas a dns issue not a service not being up issue
[11:43:08] <crutchy> maybe its my pyewta being ghey issue
[11:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:49:25] <crutchy> everything else dns-y seems to be working
[11:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[11:49:54] <crutchy> shurg
[11:49:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> appears i CAN ssh in
[11:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> 192.30.252.130
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[11:53:14] cmn32480|Beach_day is now known as cmn32480|vacation
[11:53:35] <cmn32480|vacation> good morning TheMightyBuzzard
[11:53:38] <cmn32480|vacation> coffee++
[11:53:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1575
[11:53:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
[11:53:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:53:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1576
[11:54:59] <crutchy> ooh ssh workeed then
[11:55:16] <crutchy> i think there's something *really* slow about my vm network connection though
[11:55:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know what? fuck bitcoin. 34GB is too fucking much for any program that i don't get to kill shit in.
[11:55:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's with me being almost a year behind on the blockchain
[11:56:17] <crutchy> i reckon bitcoin is just like one big mmorpg
[11:56:26] <crutchy> that shit arse boring to play
[11:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> more like a day trading simulator
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[11:57:15] <crutchy> derp. there is goes
[11:57:26] <crutchy> k i think ima gunna give up on that tonight
[11:58:06] <cmn32480|vacation> just to rub it in... I'm sitting here... wathcing out the window as the sun rises over the Atlantic
[11:59:10] <crutchy> apparently sunrise along the great barrier reef is pretty nice
[11:59:19] <crutchy> wouldn't mind going there someday too
[11:59:34] <cmn32480|vacation> I have heard that... but have never been there
[11:59:44] <cmn32480|vacation> (there being west of Hawaii)
[11:59:50] <crutchy> lol
[11:59:51] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[11:59:56] <crutchy> ciri!?
[12:00:15] <cmn32480|vacation> shit... who lifted that kick/ban
[12:00:26] * crutchy hugs ciri
[12:00:50] <crutchy> maybe it was xlefay
[12:00:55] <cmn32480|vacation> unlikely
[12:01:05] cmn32480|vacation is now known as cmn32480
[12:01:07] <crutchy> ????
[12:01:15] <crutchy> you know something i don't?
[12:01:38] * crutchy still has nfi where that bastard went to
[12:01:58] <crutchy> though his health issues were troubling
[12:04:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> he ain't been around for a year or more
[12:05:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea what was the deal but gone is gone is gone
[12:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[12:06:28] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) utf8mb4 upgrade 2) add an api call to return a list of nexuses 3) add a nexus field to the api stories list call 4) add an api option to pull only a single nexus 5) filtering for the api cause damn 6) find out wtf is going on with memcache 7) look into daily email digests
[12:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[12:06:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i could do some actual site work today. been a while since i did.
[12:11:15] <crutchy> is there a rehash vm yet?
[12:17:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Undo Firefox's "Improvement" that Connects to Sites When You Hover Over Links - http://sylnt.us - defeating-annoying-privacy-invaders
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[13:19:02] <cmn32480> !uid
[13:19:03] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5817, owned by AlwaysNever
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[13:46:44] * Subsentient is bored
[13:47:38] * Subsentient is using xchat on his phone's fedora chroot at a bus stop
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[14:19:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Women on Waves: Abortion help by Drone and App - http://sylnt.us - making-waves
[14:21:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> Subsentient: sounds....kind of annoying, actually.
[14:21:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> If you've got a ZNC bouncer set up already, why not just use something that runs on your phones native OS?
[14:40:18] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: I actually prefer xchat.
[14:40:49] <Subsentient> andchat just seems 'crusty]
[14:41:27] <Subsentient> I got a keyboard installed that emulates all PC keys.
[14:41:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> still sounds like it would be annoying to go through a bunch of steps to get into a chroot environment just to use IRC from my phone.
[14:42:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> but then, I do IRC from irssi, which is inside tmux, both of which live on a Linode server, so I might not be the best person to judge what's annoying...
[14:44:01] * AndyTheAbsurd needs a new phone, got any suggestions?
[14:44:07] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: My chroot is booted with 'epoch --init', so it's easy to start up. Also what I use for ssh, file management etc
[14:45:13] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: anything not boot locked.
[14:46:58] <Subsentient> something that doesn't brick if you load a bad OS, too
[14:48:01] <Subsentient> a lot of the reflash things expect a working linux kernel, so beware, it could get perma-bricked
[14:50:12] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: know what IS annoying? typing on tiny touchscreen keyboards.
[14:52:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, that's why I'm still on my Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G.
[14:53:13] <Subsentient> I fucking hate touchscreens
[14:53:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's over two years old so it's not really a decent device anymore...but it's got a physical keyboard.
[14:54:38] <Subsentient> I liked the blackberry way of a tiny trackball and kbd
[14:55:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, I'm kind of sad that they dropped the trackball/trackpad from all Android devices; it was insanely useful.
[14:55:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> (My phone before this one, the T-Mobile 3G Slide, had a trackpad/button thing that was awesome.)
[14:58:51] <Subsentient> got 1 hand n0w so qfi
[14:59:04] <Subsentient> afk
[15:47:55] <Gravis> oh nice... legit question about something in the article modded off-topic. https://soylentnews.org
[15:47:56] <systemd> ^ 03SN comment by [02Gravis (4596)] (02Score:0, Offtopic)
[15:50:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Glass Paint Could Keep Metal Roofs and Other Structures Cool Even on Sunny Days - http://sylnt.us - no-throwing-stones
[16:03:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> LaminatorX should have not capitalized/corrected the capitalization from VISA to Visa so make it more obvious.
[16:36:19] <everdred> coffee++
[16:36:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1577
[16:44:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> tea++
[16:44:16] <Bender> karma - tea: 491
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[20:27:54] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
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[21:08:54] <mechanicjay> yo
[21:24:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IRS Hack Bigger Than Previously Thought - http://sylnt.us
[21:54:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Three Reasons Why Small Teams Make Better Tech Innovators - http://sylnt.us - small-teams-can-lead-to-big-things
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[23:24:00] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[23:26:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How BitTorrent Could Let Lone DDoS Attackers Bring Down Big Sites - http://sylnt.us - can't-we-all-just-get-along
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[23:35:42] <mib_xnko6b> Test? Anyone out there?
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[23:38:46] <BadCoderFinger> What a test.
[23:39:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> what a knob
[23:39:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> it almost said so in his nick, too.
[23:43:12] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!