#Soylent | Logs for 2015-08-15

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[00:02:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Building the Ultimate Light Detector - http://sylnt.us - trying-to-stay-in-the-dark
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[00:24:29] <SpallsHurgenson> I have come to the conclusion that hashing tens of thousands of huge files over a very slow network link may have been a bad idea
[00:33:16] <SpallsHurgenson> god, I hope my mozilla profile never gets corrupted. I don't remember all the settings I changed in about:config trying to undo all of Mozilla's stupid decisions...
[00:36:13] <SpallsHurgenson> okay... this is genius https://www.youtube.com
[00:38:44] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, its a fake. I want helium beer! :(
[00:51:12] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, why not just backup your firefox profile folder regularly? Should be simple enough to script and schedule.
[00:51:36] <SpallsHurgenson> I do... but backups are never 100% certain :)
[00:53:07] <Deucalion> Then back it up to at least 7 different locations! With time-stamped restore points!
[00:54:01] * Deucalion inspects own .mozilla directory - 138MB - really? wth is in there, I have caching set to 0MB :/
[00:54:58] <SpallsHurgenson> they store the add-ons in there too
[00:55:21] <SpallsHurgenson> and stuff like adblock black lists
[00:55:53] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... mine is 191mb
[00:57:43] <Deucalion> yeh - adblockedge is 12.2MB, extensions is 54MB. No wonder it runs like it is in a tar pit.
[00:58:00] <crutchy> omg there's a .mozilla directory!?
[00:58:23] <Deucalion> last seen climbing a skyscraper!
[00:58:46] <Deucalion> Or was that king kong - I get confused
[00:58:59] <SpallsHurgenson> now I'm confused
[01:01:22] <crutchy> yo mama was last seen climbing a skyscraper!
[01:01:23] <Deucalion> confusion with Godzilla... Mozilla.... crap scary movies... king kong climbing a skyscraper.... strange things happen in my head
[01:01:55] <SpallsHurgenson> the madness only gets worse!
[01:02:46] <crutchy> its even worse without pants!
[01:02:53] <Deucalion> ermagerd - the googles says there was a remake of Godzilla in both 1998 and 2014 - guess they have to churn one out for every generation with the latest cadre of starlets. :/
[01:03:14] <SpallsHurgenson> there have been significantly more godzilla movies than that
[01:03:18] <crutchy> it's 'go-jeera' you moron!
[01:03:43] <Deucalion> Jeera is cumin seed isn't it?
[01:03:47] <SpallsHurgenson> the 98 and 2014 movies are just the american ones
[01:03:58] <crutchy> godzilla 1985 is the best one
[01:04:11] <crutchy> i think in some countries its called return of godzilla
[01:04:13] <crutchy> or some shit
[01:04:26] <crutchy> awesome soundtrack
[01:04:32] <Deucalion> I didn't look very hard
[01:04:56] <crutchy> with the dodgy english overdub :p
[01:04:59] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... 20% of the way through my hashing
[01:05:16] <crutchy> hope you opened the window
[01:05:29] <Deucalion> what and why are you hashing mr. spalls?
[01:05:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm trying to de-dupe the Internet
[01:06:03] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, its easy... just set max cache size to zero :)
[01:07:23] <SpallsHurgenson> wow that was fast
[01:07:29] <SpallsHurgenson> now to delete all the duplicates and...
[01:07:33] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, where'd everything go?
[01:10:09] <SpallsHurgenson> oh well, I'm sure they have backups
[01:10:56] <crutchy> the internet is the best place to backup
[01:11:25] <SpallsHurgenson> /me backups up the internet to the internet...
[01:11:50] <Deucalion> that sounds kinda.... recursive.... this could get messy
[01:12:01] <crutchy> you gunna cause a swirling vortex of terror
[01:12:27] <SpallsHurgenson> its like typing google into google!
[01:13:39] <crutchy> someone should invent a better internet
[01:14:07] <SpallsHurgenson> would there still be porn?
[01:14:55] <crutchy> yes there would
[01:15:20] <SpallsHurgenson> well then, I'm all for it!
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[01:16:53] <SpallsHurgenson> (oooh, they released a modkit for Witcher 3)
[01:18:37] <crutchy> ~define witcher 3
[01:18:41] <exec> witcher 3: unable to find definition
[01:19:04] <crutchy> urbandictionary doesn't know about it, so it doesn't exist
[01:19:28] <SpallsHurgenson> damn, so what the hell was I doing during that 60-hour playthrough?!?
[01:20:24] <Deucalion> imagining?
[01:21:18] <SpallsHurgenson> no, no, I remember my wrist was hurting after all that...
[01:22:45] <Deucalion> maybe you imagined that too. Or perhaps you need to adjust your work space to avoid RSI
[01:23:16] * SpallsHurgenson always tries to avoid the IRS
[01:24:40] <Deucalion> maybe the whole thing is an implanted memory - are you sure you have enough tin foil lining the walls of that man cave? Perhaps those ceiling contractors fitted a mind control device up there? I'd suggest tearing it down to check... just to be sure :)
[01:24:56] * SpallsHurgenson watches Godzilla 2014 but 'm not sure I can turn my brain far off enough to enjoy this movie
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[01:33:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Software Can Automatically Critique Composition of Digital Photographs - http://sylnt.us - software-can-make-coffee-too
[01:38:13] <SpallsHurgenson> automatic critiques are easy... ACCURATE critiques are harder
[01:41:35] <Deucalion> all subjectively biased of course
[01:53:15] <SpallsHurgenson> if it agrees with me, its an objective observation :)
[01:53:52] * Deucalion chuckles
[02:06:49] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, halfway through? Has it absorbed you yet?
[02:07:40] * SpallsHurgenson wonders what is supposed to be absorbing me... is it a giant space-amoeba?
[02:08:02] <SpallsHurgenson> 'cause I don't think that should be allowed to happen to anyone more than three times
[02:12:24] <Deucalion> well technically it's an inter-stellar macrophage the size of an Earth city - and no you wouldn't get to experience that more than once
[02:13:54] <SpallsHurgenson> at least not voluntarily more than once; I learned that lesson, I tell you what!
[02:26:24] <SpallsHurgenson> this movie is horrid
[02:29:29] <SpallsHurgenson> the director really loves to use the reveal shot in this movie where the character first stare at something innocuous and then the shot widens to see something horrible - that the characters probably should have noticed from the beginning
[02:31:49] <Deucalion> Nah, they have no peripheral vision.... they are viewing the world as filmed by their smartphone - seems apposite to me.
[02:32:56] <SpallsHurgenson> oh look, a floating M1A1 tank.
[02:33:47] * SpallsHurgenson rubs his temples, "I'm not sure I can take much more of this"
[02:34:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jupiter-Like Exoplanet Discovered 97 Light Years Away - http://sylnt.us - young-and-hot
[02:37:04] <Deucalion> Does a tank have enough internal volume to float? (If we leave aside the concerns about the internal volume not being a sealed space). I suspect not. But yeh, these kinds of thoughts do make pretty much any film unwatchable unless you can completely unplug the mush in the head.
[02:37:37] <SpallsHurgenson> as I said, I don't think I can make myself stupid enough to overlook all the idiocies in this movie
[02:38:03] <Deucalion> Do something else instead!
[02:39:07] <SpallsHurgenson> M1A1 tanks don't float. This one even less so because it was full of holes and on fire.
[02:40:07] <SpallsHurgenson> and now the insect-monsters are kissing... <sigh>
[02:40:46] <Deucalion> have you considered the STOP button as an option or are you torturing yourself deliberately?
[02:41:30] <SpallsHurgenson> no :)
[02:42:00] * Deucalion rollseyes
[02:42:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I paid for this privilege of watching this trash ... I need to try and get my money's worth
[02:44:18] <SpallsHurgenson> after 90 interminable minutes the monsters FINALLY start to fight... and just as they are about ti get into it, the camera cuts away. Because who would actually want to see that
[02:47:23] <SpallsHurgenson> and is it just me, or does the scale/size of these beasties keep changing from scene to scene? Sometimes they seem a few hundred feet tall, other times more than a thousand.
[02:49:37] <SpallsHurgenson> oh good, the monsters are fighting now. So let's focus on the soldiers some more
[02:50:22] <Deucalion> Saves on the animation costs I suppose :/
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[03:22:52] <Deucalion> Is it over yet?
[03:23:13] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, thank god
[03:26:33] <Deucalion> I'm not even going to ask what you consider your god to be, I suspect my mind would melt as you download the entire internet's content to it in one nano second. Would make an interesting experiment, but I'd rather not be the experimental subject.
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[03:33:31] * crutchy wonders if it would be difficult to have bender spit out a random quote made by someone when the join
[03:35:33] <SpallsHurgenson> Difficult? It would be impossible! You're talking madness, madness I tell you!
[03:40:54] <crutchy> it is python
[03:41:13] * crutchy is inclined to agree with SpallsHurgenson
[03:41:29] <SpallsHurgenson> it's madness that drives you mad!
[03:42:44] <crutchy> if it was php i might have a tinker
[03:43:22] <crutchy> but luckily nobody is bonkers enough to write an irc bot in php
[03:46:13] * SpallsHurgenson challenges crutchy
[03:48:01] * crutchy accepts SpallsHurgenson's challenge
[03:48:03] <crutchy> ~
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[03:48:29] <SpallsHurgenson> dibs on crutchy's computer after he gets sent to the sanitarium!
[03:48:44] <crutchy> https://github.com
[03:49:47] * crutchy is really tired after madly coding for a whole 30 seconds to make a whole bot :p
[03:50:16] * SpallsHurgenson ignores the evidence right in front of him and grabs the crutchyputer anyway
[03:50:50] <crutchy> it will infect you with madness!
[03:51:14] <crutchy> w64/madness
[03:52:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm willing to take that risk! Now let go!
[03:54:42] * SpallsHurgenson does like yoda and bops crutchy with a cane while tugging on the electronics with his other hand "Mine, mine this is or I will help you not, heheheh!"
[03:55:44] * crutchy smacks SpallsHurgenson with a cheesy baked potato
[03:56:24] * SpallsHurgenson makes like Palpatine and throws the senate at crutchy
[03:56:40] <crutchy> ew! the fat!
[03:56:45] * crutchy runs away
[04:01:47] <SpallsHurgenson> hashing is done; found lots of dupes
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[04:05:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - British Bar Gets You Drunk With an Alcoholic Cloud - http://sylnt.us - you-smell-like-gin
[04:08:31] * crutchy can't imagine that would be very profitable :/
[04:29:45] * SpallsHurgenson prefers helium-infused beer... damn it boffins, get working on that!
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[05:06:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - British Bar Gets you Drunk with an Alcoholic Cloud - http://sylnt.us - you-smell-like-gin
[05:36:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Humans Are Underrated - http://sylnt.us - cheer-up,-meatbag
[06:05:49] <crutchy> humans are a disease
[06:09:06] <arti> okay agent crutchy
[06:11:07] <crutchy> that dude is like the most awesome villain in the history of everything
[06:11:45] <arti> that sound, $prefix $nick, is the sound of inevitability
[06:13:31] <JamesNZ> Hmm, RMS supports Bernie Sanders.
[06:33:10] <crutchy> bernie sanders is economically illiterate
[06:33:41] <arti> i see you're fond of his policies
[06:34:33] <crutchy> the USA seriously needs someone like peter schiff or ron paul to fix your economy
[06:35:23] <crutchy> otherwise you'll just keep fucking your own arse as a nation till there's no more arse to fuck
[06:36:46] <crutchy> lots of countries have economic problems, but the US as reserve currency has economic problems on a whole different scale\
[06:38:13] <crutchy> nobody will want to inherit world reserve currency status after the US. even the british didn't fuck themselves as bad before bretton woods
[07:21:58] <Gravis> crutchy: our problem is that we are spending a trillion a year on the military. perhaps cut some of that and you might find we have plenty of money. also the insanity of "trickle down economics" is crushing "the little people" and stagnant wages dont help. a maximum wage would also help stop the insanity.
[07:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, military spending's big, I'll grant you, but it's only 15% of the budget. Entitlement spending is like 75%. That's what needs cut or no other cuts will make a difference.
[07:30:31] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: http://warisacrime.org
[07:31:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, ahh, you're a brit?
[07:31:31] <Gravis> nope
[07:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.usgovernmentspending.com for US spending by percentage n function.
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[07:33:43] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so what are you suggesting we cut?
[07:34:41] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: be specific too. just saying "entitlements" is vague.
[07:34:57] <crutchy> military is a big problem, but its only part of the problem. most US debt is related to benefits
[07:35:07] <crutchy> they call it 'unfunded liabilities'
[07:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> quite a lot of things. see the defense slice? cut that in half. take about a third of the "remainder" slice and keep it. pretty much ditch the rest.
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[07:36:03] <crutchy> you need to close overseas military bases, cut benefits, dissolve entire government agencies etc
[07:36:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, not most. only about another 40% on top of what we budget.
[07:36:24] <crutchy> unfunded liabilities are $100 trillion+
[07:36:28] <crutchy> or some shit
[07:36:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> not per year they're not.
[07:36:40] <crutchy> true
[07:36:54] <crutchy> but the 'unfunded' part is the problem
[07:37:17] <crutchy> they just get duckshoved to future generations
[07:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no argument here.
[07:38:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Gecko Grippers Moving On Up - http://sylnt.us - make-it-stick
[07:38:00] <Gravis> crutchy: so... should we cut pensions, health care, education, defense or welfare?
[07:38:07] <crutchy> all of em
[07:38:12] <crutchy> and significantly
[07:38:39] <crutchy> pllitical suicidde i know
[07:38:44] <crutchy> never gunna happen
[07:39:07] <crutchy> much more palatable to just inflate the problem away
[07:39:25] <Gravis> you can't cut pensions for people already working because that's a bait-and-switch
[07:39:47] <crutchy> if you don't eventually nobody is gunna get anything
[07:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, pay pensions already earned but stop digging the hole.
[07:40:05] <crutchy> what you have now is called a ponzi scheme
[07:40:12] <Gravis> if you cut education, well, you might as well just tell the next generation you dont like them.
[07:40:25] <crutchy> cutting education doesn't imply that
[07:40:35] <Gravis> and that they should die soon and stay uneducated
[07:40:46] <crutchy> throwing money at education doesn't make kids smarter
[07:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, we've gone nothing but up in education spending and also gone from teaching greek and latin in highschool to remedial english in college.
[07:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> money don't solve shit in education.
[07:41:02] <crutchy> it makees them broker
[07:41:21] <crutchy> government guaranteed student loans have driven up the costs of college
[07:41:23] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: cutting funding to education will only make things worse.
[07:41:30] <crutchy> it wont
[07:41:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> will not
[07:41:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I was just about to signoff when I saw this conversation; I don't mind some cutting of entitlement spending, but keep in mind those that have been paying social security and medicare taxes all along and would like to collect on their premiums at some point, too.
[07:41:56] <crutchy> Bytram, they been paying into a ponzi scheme... that's the point
[07:41:57] * Bytram taught himself how to read ancient greek
[07:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> failing failures is what needs to happen. dumb children left behind.
[07:42:14] <Gravis> /facepalm
[07:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, SS is the very definition of a ponzi scheme. it was never, ever going to work.
[07:42:30] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so... fox and friends is the way to go, eh? -_-
[07:42:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, don't watch tv.
[07:42:54] <crutchy> Gravis, if the government guarantees any sort of loan, the cost of the thing being paid for with that loan will always skyrocket
[07:43:07] <crutchy> it happened with mortgages between 2002 and 2007
[07:43:08] <Bytram> crutchy: disagree; there was a time when it appeared that Social security was going to go broke, they increased the taxes, built up a large enough surplus, and all was well, until congress decided to 'borrow' from it, and spend it, and not repay what they borrowed.
[07:43:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> but the government has no legitimate function being our nanny.
[07:43:16] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: they must be beaming it into your brain.
[07:43:38] <Bytram> does not affect the fact that I've paid in a huge amount and it was properly funded, and I should be able to collect at some point.
[07:43:42] <crutchy> Bytram, how you gunna ever repay $100 trillion+?
[07:43:53] <crutchy> the damage has already been done
[07:43:55] <Bytram> it's under the cushions in my couch
[07:44:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i get that you don't see things my way but that does not preclude my position from being well thought out.
[07:44:34] <Gravis> no, the facts do that.
[07:45:08] <crutchy> Gravis, don't be brainwashed by the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that the keynesians will try to sell to you. there is no such thing
[07:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, and the facts say that anything the government gets involved in besides military and police efforts, fails miserably.
[07:45:27] <Bytram> I'm just saying that social security was properly and fully funded, and IIRC, medicare was, too (could be wrong on that one). Do not confuse things that people have directly paid into with things like welfare.
[07:45:44] <crutchy> Bytram, all that money has been stolen
[07:45:46] <crutchy> and then some
[07:46:19] <crutchy> it is criminal and wrong, but its happened
[07:46:52] <Bytram> I'm just against the use of the term 'entitlements' lumping together 'things that people have well and properly paid into' along with 'government largess such as welfare'.
[07:46:58] <Bytram> they are different
[07:47:04] <crutchy> its the achilles heel of having the world's reserve currency
[07:47:20] <crutchy> everyone wants you to borrow borrow borrow
[07:47:30] <crutchy> and the US has fallen for it hook line and sinker
[07:47:40] <chromas> "besides military and police efforts"? You mean "including"?
[07:47:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram: "A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator."
[07:47:41] <Gravis> crutchy: greed is the achilles heel of money
[07:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> compare vs the definition of SS
[07:48:00] <crutchy> Gravis, greed is part of human nature
[07:48:16] <crutchy> you may not like it, but it aint going away regardless of your policies or beliefs
[07:48:17] <Gravis> crutchy: only if it's fed
[07:48:28] <crutchy> it will always be fed
[07:48:37] <crutchy> how do you think the USSR collapsed?
[07:48:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, gravis thinks greed is wanting money. he don't get that it's perfectly legit to want money as long as you're willing to earn it.
[07:48:59] <crutchy> he's your typical socialist
[07:49:10] <crutchy> i don't expect to ever change his mind
[07:49:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist crutchy
[07:49:14] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[07:49:17] <crutchy> lol
[07:49:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: did you read my earlier note? Social Security was properly taxed to support the reduced population over time -- there was a *huge* reserve built up. I paid into it to make sure it would be there later. That congress stole from it is an entirely different matter. It was not a ponzi scheme.
[07:49:31] <Gravis> greed is getting something by denying someone else.
[07:49:45] <crutchy> Gravis, that's how taxes work
[07:49:55] <Gravis> it's the unending pursuit of bullshit
[07:50:04] <crutchy> that's government for ya
[07:50:07] <Bytram> I'd like to stay and debate, but it's 0400 here, I've been up since 0100, and I've had nowhere near enough sleep.
[07:50:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, musta missed it but no. it works EXACTLY like a ponzi scheme.
[07:50:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> congress is legally not allowed to do anything to invest the money except using treasury bonds.
[07:50:51] <Gravis> crutchy: taxes are for funding the parts of society that aren't profitable but are needed.
[07:50:51] <crutchy> lol 'treasury'
[07:50:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, heh, yeah
[07:51:06] <crutchy> Gravis, taxation is legalized theft
[07:51:18] <Bytram> i'm exhausted, woke at 0100; pushed out some stories and 2nded others, I need to get some sleep before I head back into work this AM.
[07:51:25] <arti> did you wipe after?
[07:51:29] <Bytram> will have to continue this at another time.
[07:51:39] <Bytram> g'night everybody
[07:51:40] <arti> you never stop a good thing
[07:51:40] <crutchy> Gravis, i work to earn money, and the government taxes some of that money by force
[07:51:44] <arti> nite Bytram
[07:51:47] <crutchy> that is theft
[07:51:49] <Gravis> crutchy: so... you don't want to fund the fire department?
[07:51:58] <Bytram> arti: oh, hi! didn't see ya there!
[07:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i just got up for a piss and found i had a sinus headache from that cold still.
[07:52:02] <crutchy> most fire departments around here are volunteer
[07:52:04] * Bytram definitely needs more sleep!
[07:52:05] <arti> :) no worries, just heckling
[07:52:12] <crutchy> government isn't required for fire departments
[07:52:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hope you feel better soon!
[07:52:21] <Gravis> crutchy: sure... but the equipment is costly
[07:52:36] <crutchy> it is, and yet small towns still manage to afford it
[07:52:42] <crutchy> shocking i know
[07:53:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: FWIW, and I don't know if this applies in your case, but when I find myself getting some nasal congestion, a dinner of hot spicy chinese food really seems to help clear things up.
[07:53:17] <crutchy> people banding together to fork out for their own fire department equipment... it's blasphemy!!!
[07:53:24] <Gravis> crutchy: yeah... they can afford it because it's subsudized by the state
[07:53:30] <crutchy> lol
[07:53:32] <Bytram> ok, gtg.... catch ya all laters
[07:53:33] <crutchy> silly person
[07:53:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, Gravis, voluntary taxes are perfectly peachy in that regard.
[07:54:08] <arti> nite nite bytram
[07:54:15] <crutchy> cya Bytram
[07:54:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, citation needed. pretty sure our brokeass shit ain't subsidized.
[07:54:58] <crutchy> the town where i grew up bought a lot of its own fire brigade equipment and vehicles
[07:55:32] <crutchy> its not really rocket science, but some people don't understand how communities work. its ironic that a socialist would be confused by people wanting to work together
[07:55:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right?
[07:55:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> they think everything that's a good idea should be mandatory
[07:56:11] <crutchy> socialism = force
[07:56:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> truf
[07:56:51] <crutchy> bureaucrats decide whats best, and everyone else has to pay for it whether its good for them or not, or whether they want it or not
[07:57:03] <crutchy> fuck socialism
[07:57:59] <crutchy> i'd rather be ruled by a monarch than my socialist oligarchs
[07:58:03] <crutchy> *by
[07:58:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, you can always just kill a monarch and bob's your uncle.
[07:58:24] <crutchy> lol
[07:58:30] <Gravis> i'd rather go post-scarcity and not have to deal with money at all
[07:58:44] <crutchy> even without money you'd still have barter
[07:58:56] <crutchy> cos nobody is an expert at everything
[07:59:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> you get right on that. i have no prollem with post-scarcity except for the part where it actually becomes reality.
[07:59:35] <crutchy> people would trade skills, produce, etc
[07:59:55] <crutchy> money just makes that more convenient
[08:00:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, that'd last five minutes then some guy would think "man, it's too much of a pain having to trade nebulous favors. how about we use a fixed token for X amount of work instead?"
[08:00:13] <Gravis> crutchy: why do that if education is free and everything is produced by robotics for free?
[08:00:24] <crutchy> nothing is free dude
[08:00:31] <crutchy> you just don't know who pays for it
[08:00:38] <Gravis> crutchy: machines
[08:00:41] <crutchy> lmao
[08:00:44] <crutchy> riiiight
[08:01:06] <Gravis> education is the part that actually needs people though
[08:01:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, he got this notion that AI will evolve enough to be our nanny instead of the govt.
[08:01:24] <Gravis> health care... well, for now we need people
[08:01:44] <crutchy> even if we had machines, people would be needed to build and fix them
[08:01:50] <crutchy> unless you're going full matrix
[08:02:23] <Gravis> crutchy: why is it so hard to believe that machines can build, fix and recycle other machines?
[08:02:42] <crutchy> because i'm an engineer that gets paid to figure that sorta shit out
[08:03:17] <chromas> that's just what the machines want you to believe
[08:03:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, dunno why for him but i'm both a code monkey and a guy who can fix shit and it's my educated opinion that it simply is not possible and never will be.
[08:03:49] * systemd pats crutchy on the head. Yes, you're still needed ;)
[08:03:56] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: it's not an educated opinion, you just think it is.
[08:04:07] <crutchy> thanks systemd. at least someone loves me :p
[08:04:22] <crutchy> err. hmm
[08:04:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i'm educated in both necessary fields, therefore it is.
[08:04:30] <crutchy> being loved by systemd might be a bit much
[08:05:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> now it's entirely possible it's an incorrect opinion but it's going to take some folks with way over my ~160 IQ to figure some shit like that out.
[08:05:51] <Gravis> mhmm
[08:06:10] <chromas> Real 160 or internet 160?
[08:06:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, head shrinker 160
[08:06:23] <crutchy> artificial self-replication has progressed somewhat, and may eventually be realized. but the USA will be broke ass long before that happens
[08:06:52] <Gravis> the problem with current thinking is it's all about reducing cost
[08:07:04] <crutchy> well, someone's gotta pay
[08:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, head shrinker 140 BC, 160 AC
[08:07:23] <chromas> .65 bac
[08:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> (before coffee, after coffee)
[08:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[08:07:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1572
[08:07:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:07:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1573
[08:07:59] <Gravis> crutchy: there is no need for any payment in post-scarcity.
[08:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, that's not a problem. that's motivation.
[08:08:08] <chromas> windows-- 10 is # talking to me
[08:08:08] <Bender> karma - windows: -15
[08:08:14] <crutchy> Gravis, machines require materials
[08:08:19] <crutchy> someone's gotta dig em up
[08:08:21] <crutchy> process them
[08:08:24] <crutchy> transport them
[08:08:25] <crutchy> etc
[08:08:34] <Gravis> crutchy: and that's impossible to automate?
[08:08:41] <crutchy> currently, yes
[08:08:46] <Gravis> it's dont mostly by machines already
[08:08:49] <Gravis> done*
[08:08:59] <crutchy> its done with assistance by machines
[08:09:39] * chromas will invent the impossibility drive for instant space travel
[08:09:46] <crutchy> even engineering is automated to some extent (FEA etc) but humans are required
[08:09:49] <chromas> the spice is vital
[08:09:55] <crutchy> and humans must eat and sleep
[08:09:57] <arti> what about old spice?
[08:10:02] <crutchy> and that also requires materials
[08:10:05] <Gravis> chromas: you mean the improbability drive?
[08:10:18] <arti> that's the other project
[08:10:27] <chromas> no; we're talking impossibilities :)
[08:10:33] <Gravis> crutchy: agriculture is all but automated now.
[08:10:47] <crutchy> tell that to all the farmers dude
[08:10:51] * chromas notes that humans are organic robots
[08:10:51] <crutchy> automated my arse
[08:11:07] <crutchy> get out of your socialist dreamland
[08:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, check back later. impossibilities take till after lunch.
[08:12:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, almost nothing about agriculture is automated.
[08:12:55] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: right... because nobody invented the combine.
[08:12:57] * chromas just ate honey dew mellon, cantaloupe and pineapple; activates green-apple-two-step drive
[08:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, that's no more automation than the horse n plow is. it's just a more efficient tool.
[08:13:32] <crutchy> there's more to argiculture than harvesting
[08:13:48] <chromas> tons of mexicans
[08:13:55] * TheMightyBuzzard facepalms
[08:14:04] <crutchy> heh
[08:14:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, could make the machines in mexico. prollem solved.
[08:14:27] <crutchy> too many socialists in the US, so someone's gotta pick the fruit
[08:14:49] <Gravis> so planting and watering are beyond machine capabilities?
[08:15:03] <crutchy> you're telling the story
[08:15:07] <chromas> oh, I meant mexicans are the "more to it than harvesting", not that they're automation
[08:15:09] <JamesNZ> Machines arr dum m'kay.
[08:15:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> to decide when? yes. that is what you cannot automate.
[08:15:54] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: well... technically you can.
[08:15:56] <crutchy> Gravis, i think the problem iis maybe you're not familiar with agriculture
[08:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually you probably could automate those decisions for large parts of farming as long as you were willing to take "acceptable losses" and let the farmer who gets the shaft from your automation go bankrupt.
[08:16:28] * chromas hides the moisture sensors
[08:17:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, likely. Gravis, spend some time somewhere rural. the fresh air will do you good.
[08:17:47] <crutchy> there's so much to it. even cultivating the seeds for planting
[08:18:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, thas all fine and good until you water tonight and it rains tomorrow and washes all your seeds out cause you watered.
[08:18:05] <crutchy> fertilizing and everything that entails
[08:18:09] <crutchy> logistics
[08:18:20] <crutchy> irrigation
[08:18:29] <crutchy> quality control
[08:18:43] <crutchy> its a massive industry
[08:18:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> fertilizer ftw. now there's a legitimate function of government. they put out enough manure to fertilize the entire midwest.
[08:18:57] <crutchy> in many countries agriculture is the biggest employer
[08:19:37] <crutchy> heh
[08:20:59] <Gravis> https://www.youtube.com
[08:21:32] <Gravis> High speed planting - 30,000 plants per hour
[08:21:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, very efficient tool.
[08:21:36] * systemd kicks exec
[08:21:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> note the human in it.
[08:22:06] <crutchy> the machines used for fruit picking are pretty impressive
[08:22:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, the ones what can do peaches are freakin sweet. i spent many a summer sunburned as a motherfucker from picking peaches.
[08:22:36] <arti> entire fields of fruit not born, but grown...
[08:22:38] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[08:22:42] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: the human driving it? oh my, we'll never automate driving! -_-
[08:23:02] <crutchy> Gravis, i think the point is 'not yet anyway'
[08:23:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, operating not driving. many decisions must be made that have nothing to do with turning a steering wheel.
[08:23:55] <crutchy> gps is pretty sweet, but even gps-driven haymakers have a driver
[08:23:56] <chromas> 76 or jack-in-the-box antenna ball?
[08:24:08] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you act as if automated cars did nothing but steer inside the lines
[08:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> they pretty much don't.
[08:24:34] <Gravis> wow
[08:24:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> but then neither do people
[08:24:53] <crutchy> Gravis, aircraft are probably better off without pilots... until the computers lose power
[08:25:19] <Gravis> crutchy: if the computer loses power, it doesn't matter if you have pilot in there or not
[08:25:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> automated cars are insane though.
[08:25:23] <JamesNZ> Or until it's time to land in at a windy airport.
[08:25:29] <JamesNZ> s/in//
[08:25:31] <exec> <JamesNZ> Or until it's time to land at a windy airport.
[08:25:38] <crutchy> Gravis, apparently you're not too familiar with aviation either :/
[08:26:05] <Gravis> crutchy: everything is fly-by-wire now
[08:26:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, it's the hydraulics that gotta lose power for the pilot to be screwed, not the computer.
[08:26:19] <crutchy> aircraft have landed without computers
[08:26:48] <crutchy> watch 'air crash investigation'
[08:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you, landing at night in low-vis ain't gonna be fun without a computer
[08:27:08] <crutchy> its not, but IFR was invented long before computers
[08:27:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[08:27:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> well sorta
[08:27:33] <crutchy> vacuum and pressure gauges are good enough
[08:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> long before computers were in planes anyway
[08:28:04] <Gravis> "The A320 family pioneered the use of digital fly-by-wire flight control systems"
[08:28:22] <crutchy> i'm not a pilot, but i've heard that the first training flight for IFR rating where they blindfold you is very scary and disorienting
[08:28:23] <Gravis> Produced: 1986–present
[08:28:35] <crutchy> not your eyes
[08:28:44] <crutchy> they blindfold the windows
[08:28:55] <crutchy> (simulator of course)
[08:29:12] <Gravis> well that's not vary darwinian of them. ;)
[08:29:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but it's decidedly less expensive =P
[08:30:15] <Gravis> the point is that "until the computers lose power" is not an big issue as it's already been addressed.
[08:30:40] <crutchy> it is for passengers in planes that lose power
[08:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i dig machines. i think they should be used any and every place they can. the only way you'll convince me a machine can do a TRADE though is to prove it.
[08:31:15] <chromas> hst
[08:32:07] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i do believe they call this condition, shortsightedness. ;)
[08:32:22] <crutchy> more and more things are being automated every day (and of course the socialists are out in force complaining that machines are taking our jerbs) but it will be a long time before humans don't have to pay for anything
[08:32:40] <crutchy> human labor and expertise will be required for a long time to come
[08:32:45] <Gravis> you sound like the people that say something heavier than air could never stay in the sky
[08:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i call it realism. i know what computers can do well and what they can't.
[08:33:42] <crutchy> Gravis, i'm just not stupid enough to think that things can be free
[08:33:48] <crutchy> someone always has to pay
[08:33:50] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: i'm not looking to replace people that think and design, just everything that is monotonous.
[08:33:55] <crutchy> either in labor or expertise
[08:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> what they can't do is think. the best they can do is something that apes thinking and took some poor team of schlubs years to write.
[08:34:48] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: they dont have to think, just perform simple tasks.
[08:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, thas fine then. you have a low opinion of many workers though. thinking and designing happens every day all around you.
[08:35:17] <crutchy> he probably thinks boilermakers are retards
[08:35:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think they're a hangover waiting to happen
[08:35:45] <crutchy> lol
[08:35:53] <crutchy> i have huge respect for boilermaking
[08:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, me too. it makes sure i don't die every time i walk anywhere near one.
[08:36:15] <crutchy> i've done computations for quite a few vessels
[08:36:24] <Gravis> hardly. i think many design issues are because of excessive need for specialization to cut costs
[08:36:59] <Gravis> or fit specialized system already in place
[08:37:25] <crutchy> cutting costs is what you need to understand
[08:37:37] <crutchy> (getting back to the original discussion topic)
[08:37:43] <Gravis> not when there are no costs
[08:37:48] <crutchy> oh dear
[08:37:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll grant you that. i'll also follow up with "don't bloody reinvent the wheel if you don't need to"
[08:38:48] <crutchy> tmb, well we've gone full circle. i think this is when i start getting bored
[08:38:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you're talking automating non-thought efforts, remember? thought still goes into most everything. thus not free.
[08:38:54] <crutchy> so i'll bail
[08:39:27] <crutchy> i think i mentioned i'd never change his mind. he still thinks he can get stuff for free lol
[08:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll at least go on smoke break myself. doubt i'll get any more sleep but i do need a smoke.
[08:39:43] <Gravis> crutchy: you lack imagination
[08:39:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, you're so sharp you'll cut yourself
[08:40:14] <Gravis> cute
[08:40:37] <crutchy> i can imagine a world with machines
[08:41:01] <crutchy> i'm as much a dreamer as the next guy
[08:41:35] <crutchy> but spending money like those dreams are already a reality is stupid and dangerous
[08:42:02] <crutchy> if everything were free, governments wouldn't need to tax anyone
[08:42:04] <crutchy> right?
[08:42:09] <Gravis> yep
[08:42:21] <Gravis> far less corruption
[08:42:46] <crutchy> so eliminate all federal taxes and live your socialist dream
[08:43:32] <Gravis> without the proper machines in place? a fool's journey.
[08:43:48] <crutchy> holy shit i think i might be finally getting through :p
[08:44:18] <Gravis> machines come first, taxes will become irrelevant.
[08:44:37] <crutchy> well, until that day, the US government has a spending problem
[08:45:36] <Gravis> among other things
[08:46:02] <crutchy> yeah well its corrupt and inefficient too
[08:46:43] <crutchy> that's pretty typical of most governments
[08:47:06] <crutchy> nobody spends other people's money as wisely as they spend their own
[08:48:43] <Gravis> having spent zero dollar on murdering other people, i can attest to that.
[08:50:24] <crutchy> i think the whole world hates the US military
[08:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hate spiders
[08:51:45] <crutchy> oh eyah me too
[08:51:53] <crutchy> and snakes
[08:51:58] <crutchy> fkin hate snakes
[08:52:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind snakes as long as they're off over yonder doing their snake thing but spiders are insidious. they sneak up on ya.
[08:53:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't hate the us military. much love for em. i hate the politicians who send em off doing shit that ain't my problem.
[08:53:39] <chromas> and touch you inappropriately
[08:54:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, yes. crawling across my ear while i'm trying to sleep is very inappropriate.
[08:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll allow that there is absolutely nothing in this world i want crawling across my ear as i'm trying to sleep.
[08:56:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, spj airplay starts tomorrow. prominent gamergate figures got invited which made the SJWs boycott. should be interesting.
[08:57:18] <SirFinkus> wtf is spj airplay
[08:58:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://spjairplay.com
[08:58:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> journo convention kinda thing
[08:59:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> society of professional journalists talking about journalism
[08:59:12] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: so, spiders for you...
[08:59:17] <Gravis> crutchy: and snakes for you
[08:59:36] <chromas> I knew it!
[08:59:49] <chromas> Gravis is secretly a robot; he's trying to convince you guys to set the bots free
[08:59:53] <Gravis> it'll be a great christmas this year. :)
[08:59:57] <chromas> now he knows your weak spots
[09:00:11] <Gravis> chromas: stop ruining it for me!
[09:00:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, he's probably Bytram's irc bot. Bytram's always working against me.
[09:00:29] * chromas cackles, hops onto a broom and flies away
[09:00:58] <Gravis> fucking witches!
[09:01:25] <crutchy> omg don't set the bots free
[09:01:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, chromas, sweep up while you got the broom out
[09:01:30] <crutchy> they'll destroy us all
[09:01:43] <crutchy> speaking of bots.. where's monopoly?
[09:01:44] <chromas> front sweep?
[09:02:02] <systemd> sweep the legs
[09:02:05] <crutchy> oh. its systemd
[09:02:12] <crutchy> =titles on
[09:02:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, my roomie's kids ain't seen the karate kid yet
[09:02:29] <crutchy> =titles awesomeate
[09:02:42] <crutchy> =titles hypothesize
[09:02:46] <crutchy> :(
[09:02:47] <chromas> the real one or the fake one?
[09:03:09] <chromas> crutchy: it's on but that link murders it for some reason
[09:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> daniel-san, of course.
[09:09:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Prenda-Linked Copyright Trolling Lawyer Paul Duffy Dead at Age 55 - http://sylnt.us - dancing-on-graves
[09:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bender, s/dancing/pissing/
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[13:57:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> five minutes or so to society of professional journalists and gamergate reps talking about ethics in journalism: https://www.youtube.com
[13:57:58] <systemd> ^ 03SPJAirplay - Morning Pannel - YouTube
[14:06:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> All I'm getting is "please stand by".
[14:07:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> probably because I didn't have Flash and/or libdrm enabled in that browser; it works in Chrome.
[14:07:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> but whoever's running the sound board is doing a terrible job.
[15:13:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Genetically Engineered Yeasts Produce Thebaine and Hydrocodone - http://sylnt.us - value-added
[16:15:33] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: works find without flash, just use HTML5
[16:15:54] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: if you are lacking libdrm then you probably aren't running X
[16:17:13] <Gravis> AndyTheAbsurd: in short, your browser sucks and by association, you suck. :P
[17:15:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Documents Confirm Apple is Building Self-driving Car - http://sylnt.us - Less-space-than-a-nomad
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[18:18:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gravis: no, my wife sucks. I lick.
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[20:07:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Dammit, had a power-outage. Behind on all that good reading on the main page.
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[20:21:01] <mulita> hello!
[20:42:22] <crutchy> hi
[20:45:31] <mulita> this place is somewhat quiet, ain't it?
[20:45:51] <crutchy> atm yeah
[20:45:54] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[20:45:56] <exec> Saturday, 15 August 2015 @ 3:45 pm CDT - Chicago, IL, USA
[20:46:16] <crutchy> sometimes gets a bit slow on the weekend
[20:46:20] <mulita> nice ~time command
[20:46:27] <mulita> ~time moon
[20:46:28] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 15 August 2015, 8:46 pm
[20:46:29] <mulita> ohhhh
[20:46:39] <crutchy> thought it might have been night time in US
[20:46:56] <mulita> ~time madrid
[20:46:58] <exec> Saturday, 15 August 2015 @ 10:46 pm GMT+2 - Madrid, Spain
[20:47:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Xbox Controllers Rat Out Thieves - http://sylnt.us - rats-got-bored-running-through-mazes
[20:49:22] <mulita> it's night time here
[20:49:55] <crutchy> nearly 7 in the morning here
[20:50:38] <crutchy> ~time
[20:50:40] <exec> Sunday, 16 August 2015 @ 6:50 am GMT+10 - Melbourne VIC
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[20:52:09] <mulita> your are up early in a Sunday, or haven't you slept yet?
[20:55:08] <crutchy> i end up dozing off on the couch
[20:55:47] <crutchy> heh. wifey just got up and told me off for not coming to bed
[20:57:30] <mulita> wife is up early too in a Sunday
[20:57:42] <crutchy> little girl is awake as well, so i won't be sleeping anymore thismorning prolly
[20:58:17] <mulita> it's a miracle you have time to get close to an irc client, even
[20:58:32] <crutchy> i'm a geek
[20:59:02] <mulita> geeks don't use to get wives
[20:59:39] <crutchy> haha true. it was a bit of a shock for me too. love is mysterious and wacky
[21:00:49] <mulita> haha, now you have to balances your geeky inclinations with your marital life
[21:01:31] <crutchy> wifey is a bit of a geek too, so that helps
[21:01:43] <crutchy> kids have their own computers too
[21:01:52] <crutchy> kinda disturbing really
[21:02:49] <mulita> geeky familiy!
[21:03:18] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[21:03:19] <systemd> ^ 03Ozzy Man Commentates an Octopus Eating a Crab - YouTube
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[21:04:31] <mulita> Is this Ozzy Man famous?
[21:05:20] <crutchy> dunno
[21:05:41] <crutchy> sounds like a bit of a knob, but still pretty funny :)
[21:05:47] <crutchy> AC/DC++
[21:06:34] <crutchy> he speaks too well
[21:07:27] <arti> :)
[21:15:15] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[21:15:16] <systemd> ^ 03Fat Pizza S04E01 - New Shop Pizza - YouTube
[21:15:58] <crutchy> 'cunstable hooty' :D
[21:25:47] <crutchy> 'it's like i'm a subwoofer pumping for you'
[21:39:51] <crutchy> ~weather
[21:39:53] <exec> 03Melbourne VIC - currently 5°C, mostly sunny, wind N at 16 km/h, humidity 87% - Sunday partly cloudy (10°C-18°C), Monday scattered showers (6°C-12°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (4°C-12°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (8°C-14°C)
[21:41:32] <crutchy> a
[21:41:35] <crutchy> s/a/b/
[21:41:37] <exec> <crutchy> b
[21:41:42] <crutchy> hmm
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[22:20:34] <mulita> ~weather
[22:20:36] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:20:42] <mulita> ~weather madrid
[22:20:44] <exec> 03Madrid, Spain - currently 72°F / 22°C, clear with periodic clouds, wind N at 6 mph, humidity 35% - Saturday partly cloudy (62°F-79°F / 17°C-26°C), Sunday mostly sunny (67°F-86°F / 19°C-30°C), Monday partly cloudy (66°F-86°F / 19°C-30°C), Tuesday sunny (68°F-90°F / 20°C-32°C)
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[23:49:44] <SirFinkus> the nightmare continues
[23:50:00] <SirFinkus> this windows 10 computer installed an update, and is now in a reboot loop
[23:52:35] <SirFinkus> oh great, apparently there was ANOTHER reboot crash related to windows update a few days ago, so all my results are for that
[23:52:47] * SirFinkus grumbles and starts restoring backups