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[00:34:21] * SpallsHurgenson burps cheerfully
[00:35:11] * chromas frowns that his computer reboots at the slightest power flicker
[00:35:30] <SpallsHurgenson> wow, my burps are more powerful than I thought
[00:35:49] <chromas> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[00:35:49] <Bender> Added quote 524
[00:35:51] <chromas> lol
[00:35:51] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[00:36:21] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe its a grounding issue (the reboot, not the burps)
[00:38:14] <SpallsHurgenson> had a 'puter that liked to reboot spontaneously once; turned out the ground wire in the outlet didn't go ground
[00:38:40] <chromas> my nephew wants to move up from Scratch for programming. We all agree Java's the next step, right?
[00:40:05] <takyon> COBOL
[00:40:06] <SpallsHurgenson> COBOL
[00:40:09] <SpallsHurgenson> jinx
[00:40:13] <takyon> damn son
[00:40:57] <SpallsHurgenson> JAVA might get him a job, COBOL will ensure he keeps it :)
[00:41:27] <chromas> ooh, line numbers
[00:42:20] <takyon> "Artificial Intelligence Learns to Program COBOL"
[00:42:37] <SpallsHurgenson> "No longer intelligent" :)
[00:42:54] <chromas> Today I leaned the phrase "Metzitzah B'Peh" :(
[00:43:27] * SpallsHurgenson crosses his legs
[00:43:37] * chromas closes his mouth
[00:43:46] <takyon> L'Oral
[00:48:38] <SpallsHurgenson> why did I all-caps Java earlier?
[00:48:49] <chromas> because COBOL
[00:49:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I do that with MACintosh computers sometimes too.
[00:49:38] <SpallsHurgenson> side note: I absolutely despise working on Macs.
[00:49:51] <chromas> You love it and you know it
[00:49:51] <takyon> Mac OS XI is pretty good
[00:51:08] <SpallsHurgenson> my disdain for Macs is decades old
[00:51:26] <chromas> Since 1984 or so?
[00:51:42] <SpallsHurgenson> mostly due to Mac users who claimed "Macs never crash and are so easy to use"... except since I was fixing 'em all the time I knew that wasn't true
[00:52:52] <takyon> RIP in peace Steve
[00:52:56] <SpallsHurgenson> often they told me this while calling me over to fix a crash :)
[00:53:23] <SpallsHurgenson> seriously, Windows3 was more stable than MacOS 6 through 9
[00:53:38] <takyon> plus it had BOWEP
[00:54:26] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org or BOMEP
[00:54:28] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Best of Microsoft Entertainment Pack
[00:54:36] <SpallsHurgenson> I have to admit I have no idea what that is. Or if I knew, I've forgotten. Then again, I've done my best to forget everything about classic macs
[00:54:49] <chromas> At Skool I found I could set the mouse hotzone for starting the screensaver by dragging the mouse, so I made it fill the entire screen
[00:55:02] <juggs> AllLentils++
[00:55:02] <Bender> karma - alllentils: 1
[00:55:37] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, Macs did have Afterdark screensavers. I have to admit I was jealous of that :)
[00:56:22] <takyon> can't beat https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:56:24] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Chip's Challenge
[01:00:43] * juggs ducks Mac v MS OS outrage war stories. Some reminisce about those says, they trigger ptsd in me. Always something.... choice of editor, OS, systemd.... when will it stop? Please make it stop! Oh great, now the evil faces are coming out of the wall again. Now, I'll have to hide under the upturned table to protect me from the imminent nuclear strike. Someone let me know when it safe to come out :D
[01:01:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not saying one is better than the other (well, except for classic MacOS; anything was better than that); just that I have certain preferenecs :)
[01:02:03] <SpallsHurgenson> preferences, too :)
[01:03:27] <juggs> Is having 9 Soylent related browser tabs open at the same time a sign of a sane mind? I think Soylent may have to piss off to its own browser profile or 2.
[01:03:47] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, soylent still has a website?
[01:04:25] <chromas> no
[01:04:34] <chromas> now oyu know how sane he really is
[01:05:05] <juggs> available on gopher too - at least I think NC said he got that working - I may have imagined that too.
[01:06:35] <juggs> chromas, do you ever visit the SN website or just hang around in here for shits n giggles?
[01:07:08] <chromas> I'm not even here. I just left a bot pretending to be me :D
[01:07:25] <SpallsHurgenson> I visit the website every day...
[01:07:40] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, I just go to see the IRC logs before I log on here :)
[01:08:11] <takyon> I've transcended logs!
[01:08:39] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, we know that's a lie, you just come here to gloat about your stash of capacitors that have yet to have eruption failure.
[01:08:56] <juggs> takyon is SYSTEMD - KILL HIM!!
[01:09:33] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: true, but I check the IRC logs first to make sure nobody else is online that has a bigger stash than mine :)
[01:09:49] <chromas> ~count message=^systemd(\+\+|--)
[01:10:04] * chromas touches SpallsHurgenson's stash
[01:10:10] <exec> 0376
[01:10:25] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab chromas
[01:10:25] <Bender> Added quote 525
[01:11:12] <SpallsHurgenson> playing Witcher 3 makes me want to play some tabletop D&D
[01:11:26] <juggs> As a side note - anyone been following the progress of H1Z1 (game) at all? I watched a few YT's the last couple of days (no idea how I stumbled on them) and it looks promising but a bit of a time consuming demon.
[01:11:35] <SpallsHurgenson> my campaigns are similarly low-magic and gritty.
[01:11:49] <SpallsHurgenson> H1Z1 looks interesting but apparently it is infested with cheaters
[01:11:59] <SpallsHurgenson> (although supposedly there was just a huge mass-ban today)
[01:12:28] <takyon> still in early access Iguess
[01:12:49] <SpallsHurgenson> supposedly it is more solo- and newb-friendly than DayZ, which is why I was considering it
[01:12:54] <juggs> Yeh - I kinda picked that up. Hadn't heard of it before yesterday. Not even Beta yet is it?
[01:13:15] <chromas> beat--
[01:13:16] <Bender> karma - beat: -1
[01:13:17] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought it was out of early-access... but I haven't been following it that closely
[01:13:17] <chromas> beta--
[01:13:18] <Bender> karma - beta: -20
[01:13:24] <chromas> dylsexia of the fingers
[01:15:02] <SpallsHurgenson> plus, it's a Sony game, isn't it? I try to avoid Sony stuff
[01:15:29] <juggs> I haven't the hardware to run it at present sadly. Perhaps if I sold off all my old esoteric boxes of crap I could afford an upgrade for the space heater disguised as a PC under the desk that never gets used :D
[01:16:10] <juggs> Ohhh - hadn't picked up it's a Sony title.
[01:16:48] <juggs> Daybreak Game Company LLC in the United States
[01:16:54] <juggs> Are they a sub of Sony?
[01:17:52] <SpallsHurgenson> dunno, I could be mistaken
[01:18:21] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, if I need to kill zombies theres always left4dead
[01:18:24] <juggs> Just checking their site... lots of Everquest stuff,
[01:18:29] <juggs> BOOM... there it is...
[01:18:31] <juggs> Free to Play. Your Way.®
[01:18:32] <juggs> Free to Play. Your Way. is a registered trademark of Sony Online Entertainment LLC. All rights reserved.
[01:18:48] <juggs> H1Z1™
[01:18:48] <juggs> © 2014 Sony Online Entertainment LLC. SOE and the SOE logo are registered trademarks and H1Z1 is a trademark of Sony Online Entertainment LLC in the United States and/or other countries. All rights reserved.
[01:18:54] <SpallsHurgenson> oh wait, didn't sony divest themselves of their online games division?
[01:19:30] <SpallsHurgenson> "On February 2, 2015, Sony sold Sony Online Entertainment to Columbus Nova, who renamed it Daybreak Game Company."
[01:19:59] <juggs> OK - so now another trail to find out who the hell Columbus Nova are
[01:20:45] <juggs> Do they make all these shell games to pass interests between to create an artifial sleuth game in and of itself that keeps them in our minds?
[01:20:59] <juggs> *shell corps
[01:21:42] <SpallsHurgenson> better than corpse shells
[01:21:55] <chromas> & cheese
[01:22:22] <juggs> Seems you can loot corpse shells in h1z1 - might come in useful.... or use them as a cooking implement.
[01:22:35] * SpallsHurgenson quits witcher 3 and looks for his bag-o-dice
[01:24:18] <juggs> Anyways, I just thought some of the gameplay was funny - probably more the player(s) doing the stream than the game I suspect.
[01:26:26] <SpallsHurgenson> next game I buy will probably be City Skylines. I've a hankerin' for some buildin' :)
[01:32:04] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... I'm missing a d4
[01:33:47] <juggs> I would cackle my hind legs off if SN could put together a crew in one particular game that just dominated one region by being omni-present and always online. Of course this being SN, by the time we'd agreed the platform through an 18 round voting system then chosen a game via 256 way, 512 round vote, the opportunity would be gone. I can still smile at the opportunity for some serious messing with minds that would ensue as we would be a terribly un
[01:33:47] <juggs> predictable bunch :D
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[01:36:57] <juggs> EF would turn up, all berseker one day and all philosophical the next.... chromas & crutchy would run interference and distraction.... Spallls would be camped up the top of some way of tree on top of a mountain equipped with all the gear just sniping people then going into hiding.
[01:37:48] <SpallsHurgenson> omigod, I totally would :)
[01:38:19] <SpallsHurgenson> although if I had a choice, it'd be PVE and I'd snipe the monsters before they ate the other players :)
[01:39:56] <juggs> I think h1z1 has both pve and pvp servers right? I take it Columbus / Sony run those? That annoys me... what happened to private servers in games since I last gamed? Just set the servers free!
[01:40:22] <SpallsHurgenson> h1z1 is more of a MMORPG-sorta game than an FPS
[01:40:32] <juggs> I'm sooo out of date with gaming :/
[01:43:17] <SpallsHurgenson> too many damn games out there
[01:44:44] <chromas> windows--
[01:44:44] <Bender> karma - windows: -14
[01:45:00] <juggs> From the small amount of time I spent spec'ing h1z1 vids, is the idea that the map is small but the company sets up lots of server instances so the population on each is small?
[01:45:24] <SpallsHurgenson> dunno, you probably know more about it than I do.
[01:45:34] <BadCoderFinger> I like Pioneer. Runs on my FreeBSD laptop.
[01:45:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I got the impression it was more along the lines of DayZ, with big maps
[01:46:33] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, Pioneer! I can try that now that I got my joystick working again!
[01:48:11] <juggs> Well the areas they had to run around seems huge, but it seemed people tended to congregate in specific hotzones to "loot" civilisation centres with a lot of wilderness in between that just involved lots of running. I guess they are still working out the dynamics.
[01:49:41] <juggs> I guess that goes with the "survival" theme of the game - stay the hell away from other people who may have guns :D
[01:50:19] <SpallsHurgenson> thats why I always liked Left4Dead more... the game forced cooperation if you wanted to survive
[01:50:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I get enough cut-throat antisocial behavior in real life to want to have it show up in my games
[01:51:03] <takyon> noobs in the team
[01:52:27] * SpallsHurgenson cries plaintively, "Can't we all just get along?"
[01:53:21] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, that's why I would like to see a hefty SN posse hit a game and be all "we're nice but don't piss us off, we'll ruin your day"
[01:53:38] <SpallsHurgenson> form a group on Steam :)
[01:54:09] <juggs> SN Flash Mob games??
[01:55:15] <juggs> We're building a fucking farm, we don't care about your troubles with the zombie apocalypse, we got a good thing going on here. Just join in, stay the hell away or be dead? :D
[01:58:11] * chromas Likes this
[01:59:14] <SpallsHurgenson> first thing to do would be to start a group on steam... then get people to join... then pick a common game(s) for people to play... then dominate the game :)
[02:06:17] <juggs> This could be a lot of fun. Do we need a TeamSpeak or something too? Man, I am so out of date...
[02:06:53] <SpallsHurgenson> depends on the game. most games use Steams own voice-chat thingee I think
[02:07:57] <juggs> Next thing you know we'll have SN posse twitch feeds and YT catch-ups :D
[02:11:39] * juggs creates steam account
[02:11:57] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it! DRM and stuff!
[02:12:45] <juggs> I've had my shots
[02:13:44] <SirFinkus> oh shit, are there shennagins happening?
[02:13:56] <SirFinkus> I love shennanagins
[02:14:01] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs is leading us astray!
[02:16:49] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, chromas, I'm reliant on you devious bastards here. What's life without risk?
[02:17:12] <SpallsHurgenson> long and peaceful :)
[02:17:29] * juggs hastily sets up an alias that can be burnt in the fires of hell if it gets burnt... which it will
[02:18:37] <BadCoderFinger> You could call it morejuggs and nobody will figure it out.
[02:18:46] <BadCoderFinger> otherjuggs works too.
[02:22:20] <juggs> BadCoderFinger, shut up. Cover's kinda blown anyway once group invites go out - I know, I'll call it soylentINhiding then never contact anyone. Not sure that would work for this purpose though.
[02:22:45] <SpallsHurgenson> oh just call it SoylentNews and use Juggs as your nick. What's the worst that could happen?
[02:23:35] <juggs> I get assassinated in real life?
[02:23:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I meant, what's the worst that could happen to me? :)
[02:24:24] * SirFinkus requests an invite to da steam grüp
[02:24:28] <juggs> Google gropes you cat? I have no idea... what secrets are you keeping?
[02:24:34] <BadCoderFinger> Well, Spalls, we'll mock you for a while after juggs bites the dust, but that's it.
[02:24:53] <juggs> I always bite the dust, I'm shit at games.
[02:25:08] <SpallsHurgenson> in my experience, 99% of people are shit at games :)
[02:25:22] <SirFinkus> I was good at 1 game
[02:25:27] <SpallsHurgenson> except for that one game... which usually nobody else ever plays
[02:25:27] <SirFinkus> half life 2 deathmatch
[02:25:30] <SirFinkus> which nobody cared about
[02:25:47] <SirFinkus> I was a fucking beast though
[02:25:49] <SpallsHurgenson> semi-jinx
[02:25:54] <SirFinkus> tossing toilets all day
[02:26:22] <juggs> That still leaves a bajillion people who can headshot me through a wall..... my confidence is hitting an all time low and I didn't even set up the initial account. AAAARGH - gamers and their mid worms. FUCK OFF!
[02:26:38] <SirFinkus> I was probably in the top 5% of players in my prime
[02:26:42] <SirFinkus> of a game nobody played or cared about
[02:26:47] <SirFinkus> all rp servers now
[02:26:55] <SpallsHurgenson> here, let me make you feel better: I use cheats in most of my (single-player) games :)
[02:28:19] <SirFinkus> I didn't even need to pick guns up, grenades, gravity gun, and smg were all I needed
[02:28:32] <SirFinkus> but if I got a mag and a shotgun, it was over
[02:28:36] <Landon> are we talking CS:GO?
[02:28:46] <SirFinkus> Half life 2: deathmatch
[02:28:50] <Landon> ah
[02:29:00] <SirFinkus> valve's finest multiplayer fsp
[02:29:01] <SirFinkus> fps
[02:29:27] <Landon> 1) do I spend an hour brushing up on blender
[02:29:32] <Landon> or 2) do I kick some monster ass in witcher 3
[02:30:28] <chromas> one on each screen
[02:30:38] <Landon> :)
[02:30:45] <Landon> I only have 2 screens
[02:30:50] <Landon> need another one for the blender tutorial video
[02:30:55] <SpallsHurgenson> 3) buy new screen :)
[02:30:58] <SirFinkus> buy a third
[02:31:04] <Landon> sounds expensive
[02:31:22] * SirFinkus is watching old hl2:dm videos and getting nostalgic
[02:31:34] <Landon> I just picked up CS:GO though
[02:31:36] <Landon> pretty fun
[02:31:37] * SpallsHurgenson is stepping on errant d4s and getting nostalgic
[02:31:50] <Landon> although it put me in a match with more experienced players
[02:31:55] <Landon> I could tell they were a little annoyed with me
[02:32:01] <Landon> ranked match, even*
[02:32:32] <SpallsHurgenson> Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwbbbbbbbbbbb!
[02:32:37] <SirFinkus> lol, should try dota, you'll get apocalyptic rage instead
[02:32:42] <Landon> I have been!
[02:32:47] <Landon> I haven't gotten out of the tutorial yet though
[02:32:55] <SirFinkus> of dotes?
[02:32:56] <Landon> not sure I will bother, the interface annoys me to no end
[02:33:06] <Landon> and then I start googling my problems
[02:33:24] <Landon> and it's on forums and all of the replies are lit up with "BECAUSE BALANCE, YOU NEWB"
[02:33:37] <SirFinkus> dota is really fun, but the community is pretty awful
[02:33:48] <SirFinkus> I mainly watch these days
[02:33:50] <Landon> ... really? it wouldn't be balanced to zoom out my fucking map in a game that effectively implements fog of war and minimap scrolling
[02:34:08] <SirFinkus> that's actually a thing, there have been studies
[02:34:12] <Landon> I feel like I was tied to my hero like a little kid with a balloon tied to his hand
[02:34:28] <Landon> take 5 steps, reposition camera, click further
[02:34:30] <Landon> repeat
[02:34:46] <SpallsHurgenson> we could always Call of Duty on XBox, I hear the community there is quite... interesting :)
[02:34:47] <SirFinkus> second nature after a while
[02:35:12] <SirFinkus> it is annoying though
[02:35:30] <Landon> right, I've become a lot more picky about UX lately
[02:35:40] <Landon> too much to experience and too little time to get sucked into something that annoys me :)
[02:35:42] <juggs> Thank you guys for averting me from just setting up an email alias on my own domain for this. I forgot how hostile gaming can be. Alias elsewhere, created (1) achievement unlocked "Listening".
[02:35:58] <Landon> "setting up an email alias" pf
[02:35:59] <SirFinkus> dota is a unique case
[02:36:00] <Landon> I just wildcard it
[02:36:25] <Landon> SirFinkus: I like the concept though, but it seems most mobas are either a very niche game or have the same close view limitation
[02:36:27] <SirFinkus> you're with strangers for an hour, and making a mistake can fuck over your entire team
[02:36:31] <Landon> they really distilled the fun parts of warcraft
[02:37:03] <SirFinkus> the close view thing is a balance issue, I read some whitepaper once on how it affected rts games
[02:37:10] <SirFinkus> there's a reason most have settled on it
[02:38:04] <Landon> let me know if you find that whitepaper again
[02:38:40] <SirFinkus> I think the main issue isn't the zoom, it's the method of moving the camera, idk how to fix that though
[02:38:54] <Landon> that was one thing I was going to play with before I called it off for good
[02:38:56] <SirFinkus> you could have snap to hero, but that would interfere with many skills
[02:38:59] <Landon> mapping camera to wasd
[02:39:08] <SirFinkus> I believe you can do that
[02:39:22] <Landon> I'd dropkick the binary into my back yard if it couldn't
[02:39:36] <SirFinkus> or you can use middle mouse button, which is what I do
[02:39:49] <Landon> I have a touchy wheel :(
[02:40:02] <Landon> one of the logitech ones that you can unlock to scroll foreeeeever
[02:40:12] <SirFinkus> you could probably bind that key to something different
[02:40:14] <Landon> even locked though, you can still sometimes scroll without having it click
[02:40:24] <juggs> wth is up with steam's sign up capcha
[02:40:45] <SirFinkus> valve is famous for terrible captchas
[02:40:50] <SirFinkus> I think they rolled their own
[02:41:14] <SpallsHurgenson> steam itself is pretty terrible in general
[02:41:24] <SirFinkus> just like their GUI
[02:41:26] * SirFinkus grumbles
[02:42:04] <juggs> woo - there it goes.... fuck me - 5 attempts at capcha after only 2 beers.... perhaps I need an eyetest
[02:42:19] <SirFinkus> it's not you juggs
[02:43:03] <SpallsHurgenson> oh son-of-a-snigglebit... I saved in JPEG!
[02:43:23] <juggs> awesome to see so many people pop out of the woodwork so soon :)
[02:43:43] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: in ur dct discarding de high frequencies
[02:43:51] <SirFinkus> when you sign up hit me up juggs, I can give you a free copy of portal
[02:44:14] <Landon> http://steamcommunity.com add this person too
[02:44:15] <Scruffy> ^ 03Steam Community :: Landon
[02:44:16] <juggs> Oooh wait I have an NC calling in that other place... don't want to miss that guy
[02:46:00] <Landon> SirFinkus: boo, forgot achievement showcase wasn't a default setting on profiles
[02:46:05] <Landon> I want to spy on your games mastery
[02:46:09] <SirFinkus> http://steamcommunity.com
[02:46:10] <Scruffy> ^ 03Steam Community :: Sir Finkus
[02:47:11] <SirFinkus> there
[02:48:11] <Landon> you don't have a showcase turned on
[02:48:33] <SirFinkus> yeah I do
[02:48:34] <SirFinkus> I should?
[02:48:47] <mrcoolbp> http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:47] <Scruffy> ^ 03SN comment by [02mrcoolbp (68)] (02Score:2)
[02:48:53] <SirFinkus> stupid thing
[02:48:55] <mrcoolbp> on moderations stuffs
[02:49:49] <Landon> SirFinkus: :)
[02:50:21] <Landon> rarest achievement sorting can be fun to get a list of which ones you might want to be proud of ;) mine had some crap in it though so I switched
[02:51:13] <SirFinkus> should have cheevos
[02:51:48] <Landon> oh i refreshed
[02:51:52] <Landon> weird, doesn't show any
[02:52:12] <Landon> I've always wondered what game completion rate meant
[02:52:27] <Landon> it's definitely not tied to "perfect games"
[02:53:13] <Landon> and surely I don't have 1900/8000 achievements
[02:53:43] <SirFinkus> I have a really rare acheivement on one of these games, forgot which
[02:54:02] <Landon> my 100% super meat boy is because the game glitched and just threw a handful of achievements at me *cough*
[02:54:05] <chromas> no
[02:54:13] <chromas> (wrong windows dangit)
[02:54:35] <mrcoolbp> takyon: http://soylentnews.org
[02:54:36] <Scruffy> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[02:54:36] <SpallsHurgenson> there are no wrong windows, only unexpected ones :)
[02:54:49] <Landon> my rarest achievement is the platinum god one from isaac, super fucking proud and disgusted at that
[02:54:56] <Landon> (Also, cave story on your wishlist, ++)
[02:55:34] <Landon> that game renewed my interest in 2d games period
[02:55:49] <SpallsHurgenson> there's a way to see how many total achievements I have? that's the sort of useless information I crave!
[02:56:07] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: go to your profile and edit it, at the bottom you can select a showcase
[02:56:13] <Landon> pick Achievements or Rarest Achievements
[02:56:18] <SirFinkus> I think mine may have been a stupid audiosurf one or something
[02:56:31] <Landon> some of my rarer ones were just stupid dlc ones that no one bought -_-
[02:56:34] <SpallsHurgenson> ah!
[02:56:44] <SpallsHurgenson> 2062 achievement, 37% completion :)
[02:56:51] <Landon> you have to be level 10 steam user apparently (for those who don't use steam, I am not shitting you)(
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[02:57:10] <Landon> link?
[02:57:12] <Landon> I want to gawk
[02:59:17] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm the only Spalls Hurgenson on Steam so I'm not hard to find :)
[03:00:13] <SirFinkus> landon has too many games
[03:00:28] <SirFinkus> I know you haven't played half of those
[03:04:16] <Landon> oh
[03:04:20] <Landon> you say what
[03:04:32] <SpallsHurgenson> what
[03:04:35] <mrcoolbp> what?
[03:04:44] <SpallsHurgenson> watt
[03:04:57] <Landon> heh what
[03:05:02] <Landon> all games, sort by playtime
[03:05:04] <Landon> has dota 2 at to
[03:05:09] <Landon> that's not my most played!
[03:06:11] <Landon> I've played 350 games!
[03:06:29] <Landon> sure, over a hundred of those have less than an hour but you can blame tha...oh a squirrel
[03:07:31] <SpallsHurgenson> technically, almost half of my steam library hasn't been played...
[03:07:45] <Landon> my steam library was actually a big motivator in getting diagnosed with adhd :X my case notes literally say "I'd buy games because I thought I'd play them and.... forgot about them within minutes"
[03:08:17] <SpallsHurgenson> although since I repurchased a lot of older games just so I don't have to f**k around with CD-ROMs anymore. If you take that into consideration, the number drops to < 10% :)
[03:08:23] <Landon> I've done a lot of bundles
[03:08:33] <Landon> that accounts for a lot of my games actually
[03:08:38] <SirFinkus> the bundles
[03:08:39] <Landon> and there's a lot of useless shit bundled
[03:09:03] <SirFinkus> you can get the latest game for $15, or that and the entire back catalog for $20
[03:09:30] <Landon> the humble bundles* and indiegala and all that
[03:09:46] <Landon> "Oh, 2 games in this $2 bundle? Worth it. Comes with 8 other games too, whatever, I'll redeem their keys anyways"
[03:10:06] <SirFinkus> juggs: you ever get signed up?
[03:10:24] <SpallsHurgenson> humble bundle is evil
[03:10:26] <Landon> NCommander and juggs are having a tryst elsewhere
[03:10:40] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: I used to buy every one when it was fresh and new, ugh
[03:10:46] <Landon> now I am a more reasonable consumer :)
[03:10:47] <juggs> SirFinkus, I appear to have a steam account - just digging around for the group thing
[03:10:49] <SpallsHurgenson> that reminds me, I need to check humblebundle.com :)
[03:11:10] <Landon> if you're into grand strategy games, this is the one for you...
[03:11:18] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:11:18] <Scruffy> ^ 03Star Trek - We are the Borg (2013) - YouTube
[03:11:25] <juggs> Please don't tell me I have to install the steam client
[03:11:30] <Landon> you do!
[03:11:34] <Landon> you'll love it
[03:11:35] <Landon> one of us
[03:11:37] <Landon> gooba gabba
[03:11:39] <Landon> gooba gabba
[03:11:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I did a huge giveaway of humblebundle duplicate games last XMas, just to clear out my library
[03:11:56] <Landon> and some games (UBISOFT) have the steam client launch the uplay client so you can launch their games!
[03:12:42] <juggs> Oh for fuck's sake.
[03:12:46] <SirFinkus> I don't really mind the steam client, it stays out of my way for the most part
[03:12:57] <SirFinkus> I have a tolerance for ONE of those in my life though
[03:12:58] <Landon> it really does, one of the better pieces of software on my computer
[03:13:29] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't go that far
[03:13:47] * SirFinkus has reported several showstopper bugs to steam support
[03:13:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I gave up ranting over DRM clients. I fought that battle -posted on forums, wrote articles, ranted on my blog - for years but the gaming community made their choice and now I have to live with it :)
[03:14:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd just be happy if Steam let me use a bigger font. :)
[03:15:28] <juggs> uch fuck me, my apparmor list just grew a few thousand lines. Thanks steam.
[03:15:34] <SirFinkus> lol
[03:16:17] <SirFinkus> they utterly break IME every other update, then fix it
[03:17:10] <SpallsHurgenson> the Iowa Medicaid Enterprise? Independent Medical Evaluations? Institute of Makers of Explosives?
[03:17:28] <SirFinkus> yes
[03:17:40] <SpallsHurgenson> those fiends!
[03:19:35] <SpallsHurgenson> why won't Pioneer let me change my screen resoultion? :~~~(
[03:20:09] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: they stick their slimy hooks in you with that autoupdating nonsense
[03:20:11] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, "restart gane", Details details
[03:20:15] <juggs> Ach fuck... I apparmored the wrong browser and wrong user, what a tool. Here goes... maybe this time I won't be the mad man with the machete.
[03:20:19] <Landon> you no longer have to visit fileplanet to get your updates
[03:20:20] <Landon> pfshaw
[03:20:33] <Landon> back in my day you had to go navigate a dozen ad ridden sites to get incremental updates!
[03:21:02] <Landon> actual soylent report: tastes less like people, I was able to chug half a cup at a time today
[03:21:38] <Landon> improved a ton when I started blending it and adding chocolate though
[03:21:54] <Landon> however, my poo looks suspiciously like the easter bunnies, I think I could sell it in the candy aisle
[03:22:33] <SirFinkus> oh god, I remember those ftp sites
[03:22:50] <SirFinkus> waiting 45 minutes in line to download a file over dial up
[03:22:53] <Landon> I had a computer gaming world subscription back in the day
[03:23:00] <Landon> I'd play those demos that came with it over. and over. and over.
[03:23:09] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... my spaceship seems to have leapt into the air, then landed upside down. I don't think this is good
[03:23:13] <Landon> one christmas they included Deus Ex. it was like christmas, oh wait it was!
[03:23:29] <Landon> I'm actually kind of curious how they pulled it off, it wasn't exactly ancient when they did that
[03:24:14] <Landon> also thief 2
[03:24:44] <Landon> looks like I was just a behind the times gamer, that was january 2004 issue and the game came out in 2000
[03:25:35] <Landon> I actually don't think I enjoyed the full games as much as I did those demos, something about being constrained and trying to make the most of that :)
[03:25:39] <Landon> sounds kinda like programming..
[03:26:49] <SpallsHurgenson> (yay, I managed to get airborne! Low-earth orbit, here I come!)
[03:27:11] <Landon> I can't tell if you're playing KSP or Orbiter
[03:27:19] <SpallsHurgenson> Pioneer
[03:27:30] <juggs> OOk - nice that steam distributes an ancient version of their shitware then demands a massive update pull to bring things up to date... we'll get to the grouping thing right after several commercial breaks.
[03:27:45] <Landon> hah really?
[03:27:48] <SpallsHurgenson> and somehow I crashed again
[03:28:17] <SirFinkus> should only take a few seconds juggs
[03:28:29] * SirFinkus has fresh installed steam several times
[03:28:41] <SpallsHurgenson> steam sucks. just accept its necessity and move on :)
[03:28:52] <SirFinkus> the whole "updating" thing is one of the few things they get right
[03:28:54] <Landon> actually, there has been a recent viable alternative
[03:29:02] <Landon> still in beta, but gog.com has a client
[03:29:18] <Landon> which I'm 99% sure you can use just for updating/library management and then not run it at all after that
[03:29:18] <SirFinkus> can I play half life on gog?
[03:29:21] <SpallsHurgenson> the galaxy client is awful (and they're making their website look like the client)
[03:29:27] <SpallsHurgenson> love the service though :)
[03:29:41] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: ah shame, I only ran it once last night before going to bed
[03:29:41] * juggs goes to a commercial break
[03:29:42] <SirFinkus> their client is probably just a webkit window for their website
[03:30:00] <SirFinkus> since that seems to be what all the cool kids are doing with their uis these days
[03:30:09] <Landon> roughly
[03:30:27] * SirFinkus misses native clients
[03:30:30] <Landon> heh
[03:31:07] <SirFinkus> I've never used something that uses a webui like that that seemed native
[03:31:16] <Landon> but how would you know? ;)
[03:31:23] <SirFinkus> I suppose textual kind of counts, but they just use it for the text fields
[03:31:25] <Landon> it would have slipped past your radar, right
[03:31:48] <SirFinkus> hard to fuck up scrolling text, and it makes sense because css is easy
[03:32:11] <SirFinkus> I doubt it, it's blatant in almost all cases
[03:32:17] <SirFinkus> like using something with a swing gui
[03:32:25] <SirFinkus> even if it's themed, you *know*
[03:32:40] <SirFinkus> subtle differences in font rendering and padding
[03:32:42] <Landon> I'm optimistic
[03:32:58] <Landon> for example
[03:33:03] <SirFinkus> odd behavior with windowing
[03:33:06] <Landon> http://store.steampowered.com apparently this is a Gamemaker game, but I never would have called it
[03:33:07] <Scruffy> ^ 03Stealth Bastard Deluxe on Steam
[03:33:54] <Landon> but I get the idea, it's ipretty easy to tell a half assed source engine game by the menus, unreal game by the slick-oil-skin-shaders, and apparently unity games from some criteria I still haven't figured out
[03:34:32] * SpallsHurgenson achieves orbit (sort of) and decides to get his ass to Mars
[03:35:18] <juggs> damn - I'm not sure if this is my crappy connection or steam.... YAY reached 50% of a 200MB download - achievement unlocked (Lvl3. Patience).
[03:35:25] <Landon> ouch
[03:35:53] <Landon> if it's anything like the servers they serve games off of, sometimes you just get a terrible one :(
[03:36:02] <Landon> most of the time I'm maxing my connection though
[03:36:25] <Landon> which is good, since the state of the art in gaming is apparently to give you 40gb of uncompressed wav files for each language option
[03:37:01] <juggs> Updated every day... with no diffs no doubt.
[03:37:18] <Landon> I've never actually run into that :) diffs are done
[03:37:54] <Landon> some games (TF2) look like they have a 10gb update, but it starts 99% completed
[03:38:14] <Landon> but most games just show actual update size, it's puzzling
[03:38:38] <Landon> juggs: the real hell is when you start installing games and every game installs its own directx version
[03:39:15] <Landon> .. but you mentioned apparmor, so you won't be on an OS destined to have that problem!
[03:40:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I'm about to crash into Mars
[03:40:24] <SirFinkus> they do use diffs now juggs
[03:40:34] <SirFinkus> and their servers are blazing fast, if you get the right one
[03:40:56] <SirFinkus> dunno why your update is taking so long
[03:41:47] * SirFinkus remembers the dark days where one change in a 10GB game file would cause the entire thing to be re-downloaded
[03:42:38] <SpallsHurgenson> where are the brakes on this crazy thing?
[03:42:47] <Landon> turn retrograde, burn!
[03:42:54] <Landon> burn harder!
[03:43:22] <Landon> I've got no idea how close pioneer is to KSP, but one of the most impressive things I've seen in KSP is the Mechjeb mod
[03:43:27] <SpallsHurgenson> I've changed my mind, screw mars, I'm heading out into deep space :)
[03:43:32] <SirFinkus> forgive me soylent, for I have sinned
[03:43:41] <Landon> there's a button for autolanding at the space center
[03:43:48] <SpallsHurgenson> it seems a good idea, especially since my spaceship seems to be doing that anyways:)
[03:43:50] <Landon> and it lands you with precise burns on your engine _on the launch pad_
[03:43:53] <juggs> how many degrees of freedom does this thing have?
[03:44:15] <Landon> only 5... never go -z
[03:44:24] <SirFinkus> Stallman HATES it
[03:45:09] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I'm out of gas now :)
[03:45:54] <chromas> SirFinkus: one weird trick?
[03:46:43] <Landon> stallman hates this one weird trick, learn how to make money with open source now!
[03:46:47] <juggs> Fuck me
[03:46:59] * chromas grabs the lube
[03:48:49] <SpallsHurgenson> so... we gotta steam group yet? :)
[03:49:28] <SirFinkus> PAY ME FIRST
[03:49:38] <Landon> I have 57 cents in my steam wallet
[03:49:40] <juggs> Just a fucking dead hamster.
[03:49:52] <SirFinkus> how can he be fucking if he's dead?
[03:49:53] <ciri> doing great here
[03:49:59] <SirFinkus> fuck you ciri
[03:52:59] <juggs> Well that was a roaring success. Let me try changing email provider.
[03:53:18] <SpallsHurgenson> stock up on penicillin first. ciri is a dirty, dirty bot
[03:53:21] <Landon> juggs: consumer software is just tryin to smooth your rough edges
[03:53:24] <Landon> within the year you'll be running windows
[03:53:33] <Landon> and you might even use the defaults
[03:53:36] <Landon> ;)
[03:53:38] <SirFinkus> *steamOS
[03:53:48] <Landon> steamOS is a pile right now though :(
[03:53:58] <Landon> doesn't work period on my not-old not-new amd card
[03:54:06] <SirFinkus> do they still require a blank 1TB to DD onto?
[03:54:17] <Landon> I think the Official Install does
[03:54:30] <Landon> not sure about the installation method for that
[03:54:38] <juggs> I have Camembert, don't make me eat it along with elderberries.
[03:54:41] <Landon> there's a better packaged installer though, steam rocket or something
[03:54:45] <SirFinkus> idk if that's what it actually does
[03:54:59] <Landon> I can only assume the 1tb requirement was "so you have room for games!"
[03:55:01] <SirFinkus> just seemed that way
[03:55:15] * SpallsHurgenson gives up on Pioneer. Deep space and no gas is boring
[03:55:54] * SirFinkus is listening to Ozric Tentacles — Dissolution (The Clouds Disperse), from the album Pungent Effulgent
[03:56:04] <SirFinkus> I feel like I need to be on LSD to really enjoy this
[03:56:28] <SirFinkus> sounds pretty neat with 3 beers in me though
[03:56:36] <Landon> link?
[03:56:46] <Landon> found it
[03:57:10] <Landon> boy, that looks like a pretty turn of the century game :)
[03:58:08] * SpallsHurgenson debates reinstalling XWing vs TIE Fighter... it broke my last joystick :)
[03:58:50] <SirFinkus> I want a game to justify that awesome a10 joystick
[03:58:56] <SirFinkus> I played with that at frys once
[03:59:00] <SirFinkus> super sexy
[03:59:05] <SirFinkus> METAL EVERYWHERE
[03:59:27] <SirFinkus> http://www.thrustmaster.com
[03:59:28] <SirFinkus> this one
[03:59:29] <Scruffy> ^ 03PC Joystick - HOTAS Warthog™ + Throttles - US AIR FORCE Licensed | Thrustmaster
[03:59:33] <SpallsHurgenson> DCS A-10C Warthog, perhaps? :)
[03:59:55] <SpallsHurgenson> thrustmaster sticks are awesome. pricy though
[04:00:07] <SpallsHurgenson> I remember drooling over 'em back in the Falcon 3.0 days :)
[04:00:11] <SirFinkus> $460 apparently
[04:00:15] <SirFinkus> yeah, I saw that
[04:00:30] <SirFinkus> it looked neat, but the actual gameplay looked terrible
[04:00:38] <Landon> SirFinkus: a game, you want a sim!
[04:01:00] <SirFinkus> I can't justify it for arma
[04:01:06] <SirFinkus> since their flight stuff is shit
[04:01:14] <SirFinkus> and if I got that, I'd need to get pedals...
[04:01:23] <SirFinkus> and if I got pedals, I'd need to get a chair
[04:01:26] <Landon> can't tell, but does that stick have the whatchacallits?
[04:01:30] <Landon> the pressure sensors
[04:01:39] <Landon> so you don't actually move the stick, you just apply pressure
[04:01:42] <Landon> like the saitek x65
[04:01:42] <SirFinkus> and if I got a chair, I'd need at least 3 monitors
[04:01:58] <SirFinkus> which means I'd need a better graphics card(s)
[04:02:12] <SirFinkus> naw, this is a movey deal
[04:02:14] <Landon> well
[04:02:15] <Landon> if you get a chair
[04:02:19] <Landon> you can justify a nice wheel too
[04:02:28] <Landon> land AND air superiority
[04:02:45] <Landon> and you can re-use the throttle as a train throttle ;)
[04:02:52] <Landon> so now you have the rails covered
[04:03:23] <SirFinkus> lol mad catz has a clone
[04:03:30] <SirFinkus> what could possibly go wrong?
[04:03:52] <SpallsHurgenson> the inevitable divorce?
[04:04:22] <SirFinkus> I want a super autistic mech cockpit simulation
[04:04:30] <Landon> SirFinkus: are you talking about the X52?
[04:04:38] <Landon> or is there an actual mad catz branded hotas :|
[04:04:50] <SirFinkus> idk, I closed the window
[04:04:54] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd settle for a decent mech game :)
[04:04:58] <SirFinkus> it was on newegg
[04:05:15] <Landon> mad catz bought/took over/dated saitek in the past couple of years
[04:05:19] <SirFinkus> I know steel battalion had a thing, but I think that was more Japanese swordfighty mechs
[04:06:07] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[04:06:08] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Steel Battalion
[04:06:20] <Landon> hehe I'm glad my parents didn't let me blow $200 on that game
[04:07:21] <SirFinkus> I prefer the battletek or w/e mechs
[04:07:26] <SirFinkus> mechwarrior stuff
[04:07:42] <SirFinkus> I'm not nerdy enough to play the tabletop stuff
[04:08:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I still have my shadowcat miniature :)
[04:08:16] <SirFinkus> I loved the Mad Cat
[04:08:26] <SirFinkus> or whatever the one with the two gauss cannons was
[04:08:27] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, Clans ruined Battletech. :)
[04:08:42] <SirFinkus> I think there was a variant with two PPCs
[04:08:46] <Landon> making me want to install mw4, but I lost one of the discs :(
[04:08:49] <SirFinkus> which was fun too
[04:09:01] <SpallsHurgenson> MW3 was the best of the games
[04:09:33] <SirFinkus> I cut my teeth on 2, so that's always been my favorite, haven't played them in a decade though
[04:10:53] * SpallsHurgenson checks the 3050 technical readout... default loadout of the madcat was 1 ER LargeLaser/1 ER Medium Laser per arm (w/assorted other weapons elsewhere)
[04:11:28] <SirFinkus> well, it had the best chassis
[04:11:44] <SpallsHurgenson> alt configs A and D used ER PPCs :)
[04:12:00] <SirFinkus> timber wolf had the ppcs
[04:13:01] <SirFinkus> IDK, I had one of those fuckers with two gauss
[04:13:10] <SirFinkus> may have been a custom build
[04:13:17] <SpallsHurgenson> Timberwolf is a MadCat (MadCat was the Inner Sphere designation :)
[04:13:22] * SpallsHurgenson nerds out
[04:13:29] <SirFinkus> yeah, same chassis
[04:13:38] <SirFinkus> I was saying it was the variant
[04:13:48] <juggs> Oh come on.. give me a fucking break,,,,, Your password can't be longer than 16 characters. Sent from hell.
[04:13:55] <SirFinkus> you aren't a true nerd though, because you had to look it up
[04:13:59] <SpallsHurgenson> they called it MadCat 'cause it was a cross between the Marauder and a Catapult
[04:14:03] <SirFinkus> you should have called me out on my bullshit instantly
[04:14:28] <juggs> SirFinkus, you are full of bullshit.
[04:14:36] <SirFinkus> thank you
[04:14:44] <juggs> Does that count as a headshot?
[04:14:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I didn't do the Clans. I was into 3025 Inner Sphere :)
[04:14:51] <SirFinkus> especially since the madcat is one of the most famous mechs
[04:15:31] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, I'll stick with my Shadowcat :)
[04:15:37] <SirFinkus> it's like not knowing what an X-Wing has
[04:15:40] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, Shadowhawk :)
[04:16:57] <SirFinkus> my impression with mech games is that haven't really worked out how people would actually pilot them yet, so that's why they don't have super fancy controllers yet
[04:17:21] <SirFinkus> the control systems are usually hand-waved
[04:19:08] <chromas> in the future, shouldn't the computer do all the work?
[04:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> except for the neural interface helmet
[04:20:28] <SirFinkus> I kind of consider "you control it with your mind" handwaving
[04:21:07] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, it was more "it uses your sense of balance to keep the thing from toppling over"... actual controls were joysticks and pedals
[04:21:22] <SirFinkus> even worse
[04:21:23] <SpallsHurgenson> (exact details varied depending on the author)
[04:21:50] <SirFinkus> if you control it with your mind, you can at least do some sexy thing with requiring training or special ability to control it
[04:21:58] * SpallsHurgenson thumbs through some of the older Battletech books and marvels at the '80s style giant hairdos in the illustrations
[04:21:59] <SirFinkus> otherwise you go crazy or something
[04:22:25] <SirFinkus> that's just solving the "mapping abstract controls to humanoid robots" problem with a hand wave
[04:22:26] <Landon> watching too much pacific rim lately?
[04:22:37] <SirFinkus> no, fuck that shitty movie
[04:23:11] <SirFinkus> it should have been slightly worse so it would have been so good it's bad
[04:23:21] <SirFinkus> instead they shot for mediocrity
[04:23:28] <SirFinkus> or at least they landed there
[04:23:46] <SpallsHurgenson> http://imgur.com
[04:23:47] <Scruffy> ^ 03Imgur
[04:24:25] <SirFinkus> I'll concede that the robots were sexy
[04:24:29] <SirFinkus> very sexy
[04:24:38] <Landon> :)
[04:24:45] <SirFinkus> but the fact that the VERY sexy robots weren't enough to carry the movie says a lot
[04:24:45] <Landon> I enjoy it
[04:25:05] <Landon> the beachcombing scene carried the movie for me :P
[04:25:38] <SpallsHurgenson> http://imgur.com Natasha "the Black Widow" Kerensky in all her '80s (3025) glory
[04:25:39] <Scruffy> ^ 03Imgur
[04:25:52] <SirFinkus> hot
[04:26:12] <chromas> looks like she walked into a door one too many times
[04:26:12] <SirFinkus> I bet she ate human flesh or had some kind of other fetish like that
[04:27:13] <SirFinkus> or "fell down the stairs"
[04:29:04] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, http://www.somethingawful.com
[04:29:05] <Scruffy> ^ 03Battletech Loves the 80's
[04:31:10] <SirFinkus> ever play fatal?
[04:31:10] <SirFinkus> http://www.rpg.net
[04:31:12] <Scruffy> ^ 03Review of F.A.T.A.L. - RPGnet RPG Game Index
[04:31:42] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[04:31:43] <Scruffy> ^ 03FATAL RPG original theme song - YouTube
[04:31:45] <SirFinkus> it has a theme song
[04:32:12] <SirFinkus> (this is official)
[04:32:31] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure the number of people who have actually PLAYED FATAL number in the low teens...and all of them are currently incarcerated in low-security mental institutions
[04:32:52] <SirFinkus> I tried to get my friends to play it with me
[04:33:10] <SpallsHurgenson> FATAL... where the only thing you got to chose about your character was your gender... everything else, from class to dick size, was determined by die rolls
[04:33:21] <SirFinkus> the review is worth reading, although most people that would be interested in that kind of game have read it already
[04:33:34] <SirFinkus> anus circumference too
[04:34:06] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, but I didn't wanna go there
[04:34:16] <SirFinkus> FANTASY ADVENTURE TO ADULT LECHERY
[04:34:40] <SpallsHurgenson> they renamed it eventually
[04:35:19] <juggs> I'm going to have to disappoint the eager gamers waiting around the camp fire for an SN posse raid in Steam games. We have a hiccup around account signup. I'm still keen on swarming though :)
[04:35:46] * chromas enqueues the zerglings
[04:35:52] <SpallsHurgenson> if I make the group, can I cede control of it to someone else later?
[04:36:32] <SirFinkus> you still got portal waiting for you if you ever get it working juggs
[04:36:48] * SirFinkus assumes everyone else probably has it
[04:37:47] <juggs> Just don't make you password too long on steam sign up man - that shit will strand you down the line.
[04:37:52] <juggs> your*
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[04:41:06] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody join the group soylentnews on steam :)
[04:41:17] <SirFinkus> invite me, I'm lazy
[04:45:30] <SpallsHurgenson> need to get juggs to join so he can become the owner :)
[04:45:49] <SpallsHurgenson> this much power in my hands is risky :)
[04:46:02] * juggs promises to better prepared the next time through.... to be fair.... some excuses, "don't shoot me!", BLAM, yeh...
[04:48:28] <juggs> No I closed out steam, I need sleep before next venturing near their password policy again. SpallsHurgenson, I trust you not to put the cats on the late watch while I am gone.
[04:49:40] <SpallsHurgenson> almost as bad, I've given SirFinkus admin powers :)
[04:49:50] <SirFinkus> aww shit
[04:50:16] <SpallsHurgenson> if I leave the group he becomes the owner :)
[04:50:27] <SirFinkus> I used the powers to invite landon
[04:50:35] <SirFinkus> don't think I need the powers to do that
[04:50:37] <SirFinkus> but I did
[04:50:53] <SirFinkus> and arti
[04:51:39] <SpallsHurgenson> you can do pretty much everything now I think
[04:51:51] <SpallsHurgenson> invite, kick, promote, etc
[04:52:10] * juggs hits the init 0 button. If there are pieces to be recovered.... they'll still be smouldering tomorrow. I trusted you SpallsHurgenson.
[04:52:21] <SirFinkus> yeah, I've admin'd before
[04:52:46] <SpallsHurgenson> the only problem is that if I leave the group, steam randonly picks another officer to be the new owner :)
[04:53:10] <SpallsHurgenson> because Steam is just so well designed :)
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[05:02:21] <SirFinkus> off to bed for me
[05:28:06] <Subsentient> So this is depressing but extremely accurate. https://www.youtube.com
[05:28:07] <Scruffy> ^ 03Zen Riddles for Millennials - YouTube
[05:30:21] <Landon> whew
[05:30:23] <Landon> witcher 3
[05:30:26] <Landon> that's how rpgs are meant to be made
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[06:39:21] <arti> i've enjoyed the universe and story
[07:38:05] <crutchy> ++coffee
[07:38:05] <Scruffy> Karma - coffee: 272
[07:38:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[07:38:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1382
[07:46:46] <crutchy> http://www.nationaljournal.com
[07:46:47] <Scruffy> ^ 03After Over 10 Hours, Rand Paul Ends His NSA 'Filibuster' - NationalJournal.com
[07:47:18] <crutchy> fkin aight
[07:56:34] <crutchy> i watch a fair bit of cspan on yt and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of congressmen and women standing up for what's right
[07:56:41] <crutchy> most just fall into line :/
[08:00:58] <crutchy> http://therightscoop.com
[08:01:00] <Scruffy> ^ 03MSNBC moron host BEWILDERED by business that SHUT DOWN because of minimum wage hike » The Right Scoop -
[08:01:58] <crutchy> "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
[08:02:28] <chromas> "but these idiots have probably never actually a business."
[08:02:49] <chromas> I like this part: "They believe money just appears in an employer’s pocket, and he refuses to share it because he’s evil."
[08:03:13] <crutchy> all capitalists are evil. cos the tv said so
[08:03:21] <chromas> nope; the employer works hard to make money and hands it out for free to his lazy employees who don't do anything for the company
[08:03:31] <chromas> (the nope was related to the quote I pasted)
[08:04:35] <chromas> then it talks about a bookstore, as if it would be making a profit in the first place
[08:05:06] <crutchy> running a business is so easy, anyone could do it. its the workers and consumers that take all the risk. its hard to just show up for work and collect a pay check, or go shopping. risking your personal savings and running the gauntlet of red tape is child's play
[08:07:09] * chromas looks around for an area bookstore…
[08:07:57] <chromas> We probably have a few somewhere. There used to be a couple chain bookstores in the mall when we had one
[08:08:31] <crutchy> luckily things will get so bad that small business owners might just say 'fuck it, if you pricks think you can do better, go for it' and write it all off to walk away
[08:10:20] <crutchy> which has worked in south america. i guess its a little easier since the evil capitalist who walks out has already invested capital (buildings, equipment, etc) that employees can just take over
[08:10:41] <crutchy> but he's still ebil
[08:10:59] * chromas allots 20 ebils to crutchy
[08:11:31] * crutchy needs to do some programmering tonight
[08:11:57] <crutchy> been having some shitty nights lately. not sure if its cos work is stressful atm
[08:12:10] <chromas> Need some powernaps
[08:13:28] <crutchy> went to bed just after the kiddywinks last night
[08:14:04] <chromas> Take a lesson from Randy Marsh
[08:14:19] <chromas> having a hard time sleeping? Time for an Old Fashioned!
[08:21:09] * crutchy isn't really much into whiskey
[08:21:45] * crutchy closes browser. news is depressing
[08:22:46] <chromas> wrong kind of old fashioned
[08:23:21] <crutchy> haha. just realised who randy marsh is
[08:23:32] * crutchy is slow
[08:26:05] * crutchy is looking at exec's mysql lib. i could prolly make an alias that searches SN comments similar to how ~last works
[08:27:45] <crutchy> problem with #comments is that most comments are incomplete
[08:28:36] <crutchy> might wait till the api goes live
[08:29:14] <chromas> are they pulled from the server incomplete? or can you store them before truncating for irc?
[08:29:36] <crutchy> they're saved complete
[08:30:36] <crutchy> ~api
[08:30:37] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[08:31:59] <crutchy> hmm. doesn't seem to be much search features in api
[08:32:00] <crutchy> yet
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[09:22:27] <TLA> welhaithur!
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[11:16:07] <crutchy> is it just me or does hason make decent songs?
[11:19:53] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:19:54] <Scruffy> ^ 03Give A Little - YouTube
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[13:56:13] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:58:53] <n1> hey there janrinok
[13:58:59] <janrinok> hi n1
[13:59:54] <janrinok> just 2nd ed'ing your stories
[14:00:04] <n1> cool
[14:00:09] <n1> i plan to do some more later this evening
[14:00:20] <n1> but trying to do some real work also today
[14:00:32] <janrinok> good work or bad work?
[14:00:56] <n1> good, i think
[14:01:14] <janrinok> as long as it is not unpleasant
[14:01:30] <n1> so far it's not, and hopefully in the longer term will mean i have less work to do
[14:01:47] <janrinok> that has got to be good work then :)
[14:03:42] <n1> how is your day going
[14:03:43] <ciri> not sure
[14:03:52] <janrinok> tea++
[14:03:52] <Bender> karma - tea: 470
[14:04:17] <janrinok> just got back in from a bit of work in the garden. Still got to take it easy but light gardening is OK.
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[14:09:41] <n1> if weather here is anything to go by
[14:09:44] <n1> it's a nice day for it
[14:10:13] <janrinok> very nice, and the garden is alive with birds, insects, and other wildlife
[14:11:35] <n1> aside the insects, sounds good
[14:12:51] <janrinok> I don't mind insects - well, the vast majority anyway
[14:19:47] <n1> some make a tasty snack apparently
[14:20:19] <janrinok> er, I just observe them, but if your culinary skills are up to it, then yes they do.
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[14:22:03] <janrinok> hi TK
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[16:18:36] <everdred> coffee++
[16:18:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1383
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[18:07:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla Integrates Proprietary Pocket Plugin - http://sylnt.us - what's-in-its-pocketses
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[18:14:47] <janrinok> Subsentient: hi, how are things?
[18:15:40] <Subsentient> janrinok: Nurble nurble, flesh eating gerbils. Peanut butter going burble. Go out and munch yourselves some bad guys!
[18:16:21] <janrinok> er, I think that means things are getting better but, if not, best wishes
[18:16:36] <Subsentient> janrinok: Looks like we won't be homeless.
[18:16:48] <janrinok> that is great news!
[18:26:47] <SirFinkus> https://youtu.be
[18:26:49] <Scruffy> ^ 03Officer-involved shooting press conference at Olympia City Hall - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[18:26:54] <SirFinkus> so I guess this happened in my town last night
[18:26:58] * SirFinkus preps for the riot
[19:08:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Mulls Export Controls on Zero-Days - http://sylnt.us - what-is-this-bis
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[20:39:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hackers Love Robots.txt - http://sylnt.us - hackers.txt
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[22:13:56] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:13:56] <Scruffy> Karma - coffee: 273
[22:13:56] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:13:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1384
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[22:15:29] <cmn32480> ~weather kenner, LA
[22:15:31] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:15:52] <cmn32480> ~weather Kenner
[22:15:53] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:15:56] <cmn32480> ~weather Kennar
[22:15:58] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:16:04] <crutchy> its borked
[22:16:06] <cmn32480> ~weather new orleans
[22:16:08] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:16:14] <cmn32480> BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
[22:16:28] <crutchy> ;weather new orleans
[22:16:28] <MrPlow> Syntax: ;weather City, ST or ;weather zip code
[22:16:32] <cmn32480> I'm trying to find out if it is raining. the thunder says yes
[22:16:50] <crutchy> hmm. that's an interesting hypothesis
[22:17:05] <cmn32480> and my bleeping flight might not take off in a reasonable time frame
[22:17:23] <cmn32480> time to get drunk!
[22:17:32] <crutchy> where you flying to today?
[22:17:42] <cmn32480> ;weather new Orleans, LA
[22:17:43] <MrPlow> Today: Showers and thunderstorms early. Lows overnight in the low 70s. Tomorrow: Sunshine and clouds mixed. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 84F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph.
[22:17:45] <crutchy> ergh. that almost sounds like a microsoft slogan
[22:17:50] <cmn32480> home
[22:17:56] <cmn32480> that is the only reason I actually care
[22:18:01] <crutchy> ah
[22:18:05] <crutchy> home++
[22:18:05] <Bender> karma - home: 1
[22:18:10] <crutchy> only 1?!
[22:18:11] <cmn32480> amen
[22:18:13] <cmn32480> home++
[22:18:13] <Bender> karma - home: 2
[22:18:18] <cmn32480> exec--
[22:18:18] <Bender> karma - exec: 27
[22:18:24] <cmn32480> just for being borked
[22:18:26] <crutchy> google--
[22:18:26] <Bender> karma - google: -13
[22:18:32] <crutchy> just for changing shit
[22:18:37] <cmn32480> hehehe
[22:18:47] <cmn32480> apple--
[22:18:47] <Bender> karma - apple: -5
[22:19:02] <cmn32480> for being a hipster's paradise
[22:19:20] <cmn32480> no need to be home for tomorrow
[22:19:24] <crutchy> i'll get around to fixing it one day. when i can be bothered reading google's search results html. its a bit of a chore
[22:19:28] <cmn32480> my middle one graduates pre-school
[22:19:40] <crutchy> ooh. good time
[22:19:46] <cmn32480> *I* need....
[22:19:51] <n1> ahoy, cmn32480 & crutchy
[22:19:55] <cmn32480> nope
[22:20:00] <crutchy> g'day nick
[22:20:10] <cmn32480> not a good time, but a command performance
[22:20:13] <cmn32480> heya n1
[22:20:34] <cmn32480> my son will understand
[22:20:38] <crutchy> my kiddywinks are growing up. little one is in grade 1 or 2 or something
[22:20:38] <cmn32480> my wife wont't
[22:22:00] <cmn32480> i have decided that Southwest's website isn't updated enough
[22:22:13] <cmn32480> my flight was supposed to take off 2 minutes ago... and is still shown as on time
[22:23:00] <crutchy> pilots are prolly still getting their bjs
[22:23:17] <chromas> one can hope
[22:23:21] <crutchy> stewardesses aren't what they used to be
[22:23:34] <crutchy> the hot ones go work for rich nerds
[22:23:39] <chromas> You mean they don't get the job done?
[22:23:40] <cmn32480> unlikely... one of them just walked by in swimmies and fins...
[22:24:13] <crutchy> the pilots?
[22:24:25] * crutchy tries to erase that mental image
[22:24:31] <cmn32480> yup
[22:24:36] <cmn32480> shit... 2 hour delay
[22:24:39] <cmn32480> time to get drunk
[22:25:08] * crutchy hasn't been drunk for a long time
[22:25:41] <crutchy> ~time
[22:25:42] <exec> Friday, 22 May 2015 @ 8:25 am GMT+10 - Melbourne VIC
[22:25:58] <crutchy> damn. gotta go to workipoos soon :(
[22:26:09] <n1> laters, crutchy
[22:26:25] <cmn32480> see ya crutchy
[22:26:32] <crutchy> cya n1, cmn32480, chromas
[22:26:46] <chromas> seea crutchy
[22:28:05] <cmn32480> well... this sucks
[22:28:16] <n1> what happened?
[22:29:10] <cmn32480> 2 hour flight delay due to weahter
[22:29:11] <ciri> 3
[22:29:28] <cmn32480> f you and the horse you rode in on ciri
[22:29:34] <cmn32480> 4
[22:29:44] <n1> that sucks
[22:30:06] <cmn32480> yup
[22:30:10] <n1> more beer time?
[22:30:34] <cmn32480> if I thought I could get that AND the towing fee on my expense report, I would
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[22:30:52] <cmn32480> hehe.... yeah.... my rental car got towed
[22:31:01] <cmn32480> parked to close to a stop sign
[22:32:12] <n1> after you'd handed they keys back though i take it?
[22:33:29] <crutchy> http://mashable.com
[22:33:30] <Scruffy> ^ 03Revealed: The NSA's plan to 'hijack' Android app stores
[22:34:24] <crutchy> coffee gone. must be time to go
[22:34:27] <cmn32480> nope
[22:35:38] <cmn32480> while I was in a meeting
[22:51:14] <n1> not going to have to pay for it?
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[23:30:46] <takyon> http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:47] <Scruffy> ^ 03SN journal Soylent Upgrade Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey extension v3 04(0 comments)
[23:32:18] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[23:41:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The MinION - Genome Sequencing in a Handheld Device - http://sylnt.us
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