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[23:20:13] <paulej72> night
[23:20:08] <Bytram|away> g'night all!
[23:19:53] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=6768": "3SoylentNews Comments | UTF-8 Regression Testing "
[23:19:52] <Bytram|away> you can the Utf-8 regression tests here: https://soylentnews.org
[23:19:00] <Bytram|away> btw, I forgot to mention in my bug report, but I'd tried the same set of chars on my prod journal.
[23:18:37] * Bytram|away really needs some shuteye
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[23:18:22] <Bytram> k, thanks for the clarification!
[23:18:12] <Bytram> (until, of course, you come out with rehash3 or somesuch.)
[23:17:57] <paulej72> yep
[23:17:45] <Bytram> so, anything that I find on dev.soylentnews.org, from now on, should go there. right?
[23:17:19] <aqu4> Title for page "https://github.com/SoylentNews/rehash/issues": "3Issues · SoylentNews/rehash · GitHub"
[23:17:18] <paulej72> https://github.com
[23:16:29] <Bytram> can you put up the right link on dev for submitting bugs? not an *immediate* need, as I am wiped and am ready for bed. but I'd like to get back at it sometime tomorrow pm.
[23:15:16] <paulej72> probably
[23:15:02] <Bytram> well then!
[23:14:56] <Bytram> btw, we still have a story category of "slash".... shouldn't that be "rehash"?
[23:14:45] <paulej72> nope
[23:14:28] <Bytram> does dev's link go to the right place?
[23:14:17] <Bytram> oh. I clicked the link on the prod site... didn't know you had a different link.
[23:13:48] <paulej72> rehash bugs go into rehash repo
[23:13:32] <paulej72> Bytram: wrong repo for the bug report
[23:12:49] <chromas> you have the Schwartz!
[23:11:43] <paulej72> that's the combonation to my luggage
[23:11:26] <chromas> correct horse battery staple 2
[23:09:30] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/ke7pc": "3Passphrases You Can Memorize That Even The NSA Can’t Guess - SoylentNews"
[23:09:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Passphrases You Can Memorize That Even The NSA Can’t Guess - http://sylnt.us - correct-horse-battery-staple
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[21:38:21] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/va3qo": "3E-Verify’s Slippery Slope - SoylentNews"
[21:38:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - E-Verify’s Slippery Slope - http://sylnt.us - are-judges-and-politicians-'hired'?
[21:28:44] <aqu4> Title for page "https://github.com/SoylentNews/slashcode/issues/435": "3Server Error when preview comment having char &lt; 0x1f, or char==0x7f · Issue #435 · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub"
[21:28:43] <Bytram> I put up a bug on github about the UTF-8 char problem: https://github.com
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[21:15:04] <exec> 03[2015-03-29 20:21:45] #Soylent <Bytram> I just keep bobbing hy head up & down... who needs forks?
[21:15:01] <chromas> ~last message=bobbing
[21:14:41] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[21:14:41] <Bytram> lol
[21:14:35] <Bender> Added quote 447
[21:14:35] <JamesNZ> !grab Bytram
[21:14:12] <Bytram> Huh! that worked?!!
[21:14:05] <exec> 03Wellington, New Zealand - currently 61°F, mostly sunny, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 82% - Monday mostly sunny (53°F-67°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (51°F-67°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (58°F-69°F), Thursday cloudy (58°F-66°F)
[21:14:03] <Bytram> ~weather NZ
[21:13:20] <JamesNZ> Sunny too \o/
[21:12:55] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 39°F, sunny, wind SE at 9 mph, humidity 44% - Sunday clear with periodic clouds (30°F-39°F), Monday scattered showers (34°F-45°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (32°F-46°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (31°F-43°F)
[21:12:53] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[21:12:46] <Bytram> this should give you some idea:
[21:12:26] <JamesNZ> Bytram: The sun :P How about over there?
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[21:11:44] <Bytram> JamesNZ: what's up down there?
[21:11:23] <Bytram> paulej72: I'm not having any luck trying to find encode.pm any hints on where on github I can find it?
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[21:11:10] <JamesNZ> Morning Bytram :)
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[21:10:50] <Bytram> JamesNZ: g'day!
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[20:56:29] <Bytram> encode.pm -- that makes sense
[20:55:02] <paulej72> [Sun Mar 29 20:51:00 2015] [error] Cannot decode string with wide characters at /srv/soylentnews.org/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.20.1/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Encode.pm line 241.\n
[20:55:02] <paulej72> inpage/htdocs/comments.pl:329
[20:55:02] <paulej72> [Sun Mar 29 20:49:50 2015] [error] /comments.pl:ModPerl::ROOT::ModPerl::Registry::srv_soylentnews_2eorg_rehash_site_soylent_2dmainpage_htdocs_comments_2epl:/srv/soylentnews.org/rehash/site/soylent-mainpage/htdocs/comments.pl:506:cannot getSkin for empty skid='0' ;; Which was called by:ModPerl::ROOT::ModPerl::Registry::srv_soylentnews_2eorg_rehash_site_soylent_2dmainpage_htdocs_comments_2epl:/srv/soylentnews.org/rehash/site/soylent-ma
[20:52:35] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[20:52:35] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, slash@dev.soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[20:52:35] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[20:52:35] <Bytram> OK
[20:52:29] <Bytram> ok, I just tried to preview a comment containing each of the chars from 0x20-0x1f and got:
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[20:51:29] * Bytram doesn't think he has access to that
[20:51:16] <Bytram> janrinok_in_bed: sleep well!
[20:50:44] <janrinok_in_bed> got to go guys - have a pleasant evening.
[20:50:21] <paulej72> yes there probably is something in the logs, but not sure which one it would be. I would start with the soylentnews.mainpage.error.log
[20:49:28] <Bytram> sounds plausible; can't tell from here
[20:49:22] <janrinok_in_bed> sounds a bit fizzy-drink ish
[20:49:15] <Bytram> would something appear in the logs when I do that?
[20:49:10] <paulej72> Bytram: we probably have an issue with the new mysql setup and how it is running with utf8.
[20:49:00] <Bytram> paulej72 == carbonator!!
[20:48:40] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 131
[20:48:40] <Bytram> paulej72++
[20:48:32] <Bytram> paulej72: I've been testing the use of a range of UTF-8 chars, and when I hit preview (Plain Old Text) mode, I get a server error. :/
[20:48:11] <paulej72> tell me about it. moving carbon is still ongoing. but I am real close now
[20:46:27] <Bytram> there's always more to moving that it seems, at first.
[20:46:12] <Bytram> good to hear!
[20:46:03] <paulej72> he is in his new place and expects network on tuesday
[20:46:00] <janrinok_in_bed> I think he was on earlier today
[20:45:35] <Bytram> is buzz still on the moove?
[20:45:23] <Bytram> k, thnks
[20:45:12] <paulej72> Bytram: not at this time.
[20:44:52] <Bytram> simples... turn around and go back!
[20:44:30] <paulej72> whats funny is that mya appartment door is normal interior door so it does not do a good job at stoping heat thransfer. so as I decend the stairs in the winter the temp falls noticealby
[20:43:41] <Bytram> I have been, cautiously, using prod to compare against... do we have another server that matches prod that I can use?
[20:43:03] <Bytram> btw, I'm getting some regressions on dev.soylentnews.com wrt utf-8 support
[20:42:43] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:42:12] <paulej72> I have a landing almost at the top of the stair and i normally leave my shoes there.
[20:41:33] <paulej72> vestibule is common.
[20:41:04] <paulej72> almost :)
[20:40:55] <paulej72> the stairs start right at the door, and the vesitibule is too small to even open two doors at once.
[20:40:17] <Bytram> or is it a common entrance?
[20:40:15] <paulej72> the stair case is open to my efficeincy. makes the place feel bigger
[20:40:10] <Bytram> keep some slippers by the door and swap into 'em when you come home? leave the salty shoes at the door?
[20:39:34] <paulej72> yep carpeted indoor ones. there is a small 3' x 4" vestibule on the first floor with my door and my downstairs neighbors door
[20:39:18] <Bytram> =)
[20:39:16] <Bytram> vacuuming sucks
[20:38:26] <Landon> was wondering why you took a vacuum to uncarpeted outdoor steps :)
[20:38:15] <Landon> ah, these are carpeted indoor steps?
[20:37:19] <paulej72> its hydroscopic so it sticks to anything wet like your shoes. and gets drug up my setps since it is not convenient to take my shoes off at the bottom
[20:37:03] <janrinok_in_bed> I prefer the pure sodium. far more impressive but not as effective
[20:35:51] <paulej72> come in little pellets
[20:35:48] <Landon> "The other advantage is that because it's just a text file you don't setup a server, or users, or user passwords, or have to rebuild the database etc"
[20:35:47] <Landon> *munches popcorn* this github thread is good
[20:35:26] <paulej72> ice meilting. calcium works better than sodium
[20:33:06] <janrinok_in_bed> paulej72: is that from the building works?
[20:33:01] <Landon> I've noticed that all of the RTC/IBM friendly blogs are 1) by employees.... 2) predominantly on .wordpress.com domain
[20:32:40] <Landon> show starts when you hit the comments
[20:32:38] <aqu4> Title for page "https://jazzpractices.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/git-outta-here/": "3Git Outta Here | JazzPractices"
[20:32:36] <Landon> https://jazzpractices.wordpress.com
[20:32:35] <janrinok_in_bed> perhaps that should have been an 'essential'
[20:32:20] <paulej72> i think vaccuuming my stairs to get the calcium rmoved was the hardest part
[20:32:17] <Landon> you guys wanna see something funny?
[20:31:22] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 25
[20:31:22] <Landon> janrinok++
[20:31:14] <janrinok_in_bed> beer etc
[20:31:03] <paulej72> I just have to go food shopping yet. Out of the basics
[20:30:37] <janrinok_in_bed> hi paulej72 - job finished or have you just quit for the day?
[20:30:34] <Landon> get my thighs in contact with more of the seat
[20:30:27] <Landon> I think I need to move the drivers seat back
[20:30:22] <Landon> you know, my ass was tired after a 2.5 hr drive the other day
[20:30:11] <paulej72> my ass is tired. I was cleaning my appartment all day
[20:29:13] <Bytram> nograb
[20:29:10] * Bytram chews and reads
[20:29:05] <Bytram> agreed
[20:28:37] <janrinok_in_bed> my comment was very restrained when compared with some of the others
[20:27:56] * Bytram agrees
[20:27:54] <Landon> been there done that, tons of micromanagement required
[20:27:45] <Landon> multiplayer notepad *shudder*
[20:26:11] <Bytram> I dunno, still reading.
[20:25:57] <janrinok_in_bed> Bytram: I wonder if he regrets making that first comment
[20:25:03] <crutchy> mornin'
[20:24:42] <janrinok_in_bed> hi crutchy
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[20:22:48] <ciri> quick, everyone look busy Bytram
[20:22:47] <Bytram> hi
[20:22:42] <janrinok_in_bed> gosh I'm missing so many grabs
[20:22:37] <Bytram> look at the AC on the github thread... think s/he's got about 1/3 of the comments
[20:22:04] <Bytram> well, dont' we have a live one here....
[20:21:45] <Bytram> I just keep bobbing hy head up & down... who needs forks?
[20:21:17] <Bytram> it's kinda been my baby for a few months(?) now.
[20:21:15] <janrinok_in_bed> I wondered if you would stop eating to reply ;)
[20:21:05] <Landon> only a month
[20:21:03] <Bytram> I thot, what the heck?
[20:20:58] <Landon> to be fair, that's better than slashdot ;)
[20:20:58] <Bytram> community noticed and commented on it
[20:20:45] <Bytram> kinda fell into it... noticed at one point that a poll had been up for a month
[20:17:54] <janrinok_in_bed> is setting the poll up your job as well?
[20:16:36] * Bytram keeps his kbd at arms' length
[20:16:02] <janrinok_in_bed> I'd have to clean my keyboard after a spag bol
[20:14:17] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_563292433&feature=iv&list=PLXEP0qousrR28Hz8j0iMnDymjAzyNidbA&src_vid=dRIgmKGDqFM&v=dRIgmKGDqFM": "3Jeff Gordon: Test Drive 2 | Pepsi Max - YouTube"
[20:14:15] <Landon> https://www.youtube.com cracks me up every time :) that's good advertising
[20:14:13] <Bytram> it is difficult to type with a bowl of spaghetti in front of kbd
[20:13:49] <Bytram> s/pool/poll/
[20:13:39] <Bytram> should go live on ... czn't remmeber ... 30th or 31st
[20:13:12] <Bytram> btw, I put up a new pool...
[20:13:05] <Bytram> back
[20:09:33] <Bytram> tnx. brb
[20:09:25] <janrinok_in_bed> have a good meal
[20:09:19] <Bytram> You said it!
[20:09:09] <Bytram> !moosay cheers!
[20:09:00] <Bytram> ~moosay cheers!
[20:08:56] <janrinok_in_bed> you mean he didnt say what I said he said, he said something he didn't say?
[20:08:38] <Bytram> *crickets*
[20:08:31] <arti> Australia has won the 2015 ICC Cricket World Cup
[20:08:29] <Bytram> I'm not so convinced that he *actually* said it
[20:08:11] <janrinok_in_bed> I just said that he said
[20:07:59] <Bytram> you mean what it's said that he said?
[20:07:29] <janrinok_in_bed> remember what Gate's said...
[20:07:18] <Bytram> ding dong... my dinner's almost ready. biab
[20:07:08] <janrinok_in_bed> ah, you've got plenty
[20:06:52] <Bytram> on a positive note, that should reclaim some RAM for me.
[20:05:49] * Bytram clicks restart pale moon and prepares to wait for a while
[20:05:27] <Bytram> oh, joy.
[20:05:20] <Bytram> update will be installed the next time PM starts...
[20:04:53] <Bytram> chuckle
[20:04:44] <janrinok_in_bed> I know how you like to keep abreast of the latest software and hardware....
[20:04:36] <Bytram> well, the atom_win_xp version, that is.
[20:04:18] <Bytram> yeah, I'm moving on up to v25.3.1
[20:03:57] <janrinok_in_bed> PM v25 is available - I'll do that tomorrow
[20:03:43] * Bytram is very fortunate
[20:03:40] <Bytram> kids in the days before me saw it live.
[20:03:12] <Bytram> kids these days didn't grow up watching WWII movies
[20:02:48] <Bytram> yuppers
[20:02:03] <janrinok_in_bed> was that a PM update?
[20:01:44] * janrinok_in_bed acknowledges he doesn't get out much....
[20:01:08] <janrinok_in_bed> last time I heard that it was for a crash dive in a war film
[20:00:38] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[20:00:38] <Bytram> !woop
[20:00:19] <janrinok_in_bed> almost a full house!
[19:59:41] <janrinok_in_bed> thx
[19:59:37] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/~martyb/journal/1115": "3Journal of martyb (76)"
[19:59:35] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[19:59:25] <Bytram> np just a secv
[19:59:18] <janrinok_in_bed> lost that link you gave me now to your journal
[19:59:13] <Bytram> oh, joy. now palemoon is nagging me about an update
[19:58:49] <Bytram> k
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[19:57:41] <janrinok_in_bed> just installed them - I'm going to reboot firefox/IceWeasel/PM whatever
[19:51:49] <janrinok_in_bed> ...but I've found them in a slightly different path
[19:49:51] <janrinok_in_bed> I get 404s on both of those
[19:49:39] <Bytram> laundry is calling, brb
[19:49:17] <Bytram> "http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-7.0.06/font-builds/unifont_upper_csur-7.0.06.ttf"
[19:49:11] <Bytram> and
[19:49:11] <Bytram> "http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-7.0.06/font-builds/unifont_csur-7.0.06.ttf"
[19:48:43] * Bytram can find a link ...
[19:48:35] <janrinok_in_bed> I'll have to look that one up
[19:48:23] * Bytram uses CSUR fonts from GNU
[19:48:11] <Bytram> lol
[19:48:05] <janrinok_in_bed> I can't find out which fonts I am missing, so I won't lose too much sleep about it
[19:48:01] <Bytram> I just generated 'em in bunches and pasted them in
[19:47:47] <Bytram> some are to be expected -- invalid byte sequences for UTF-8
[19:47:11] <Bytram> that's about what I'm getting
[19:47:00] <janrinok_in_bed> I need to install some additonal fonts because I'm missing about 10% of those
[19:46:26] <janrinok_in_bed> yup, just a few....
[19:46:19] <Bytram> it's up to you :)
[19:46:05] <janrinok_in_bed> ah, you want me to scroll down as well?!
[19:45:46] <Bytram> yup, and there should be some comments posted under it
[19:45:30] <janrinok_in_bed> I just see "This is just a place to hang some UTF-8 character regression tests."
[19:45:26] <Bytram> not yet
[19:45:24] <Bytram> you mean wcopy and utf-8?
[19:45:16] <Bytram> solved?
[19:45:01] <janrinok_in_bed> have you solved the problem?
[19:45:00] * Bytram wonders how those chars look on your box; I see most of them as chars, but get occasional "boxed numbers", too.
[19:44:33] <janrinok_in_bed> looking
[19:44:29] <Bytram> has bunches of UTF-8 chars in the comments.
[19:44:19] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/~martyb/journal/1115": "3Journal of martyb (76)"
[19:44:18] <Bytram> if you'd like, take a look at the comments here: https://soylentnews.org
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[19:43:59] <Bytram> I, umm, noticed. =)
[19:43:46] <SoyCow9618> I thought I'd lurk a little longer
[19:43:37] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:43:21] <SoyCow9618> good, everyone is now in bed
[19:43:21] * Bytram greets me
[19:43:04] <SoyCow9618> it's still me though
[19:43:00] <Bytram> how's things?
[19:42:39] <SoyCow9618> moo to you too
[19:41:54] <Bytram> moo
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[19:36:48] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/knso9": "3Icarus Won't Collide With Earth in 2015 - But It'll Be Close - SoylentNews"
[19:36:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Icarus Won't Collide With Earth in 2015 - But It'll Be Close - http://sylnt.us - celestial-billiards
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[19:30:28] <janrinok> lol
[19:30:22] <Bytram> [*] today
[19:30:19] <Bytram> won't do it again[*], I promise
[19:29:57] <janrinok> you leave my revoir out of this
[19:29:44] <Bytram> au revoir!
[19:29:43] <janrinok> sure ;)
[19:29:41] <Bytram> and the same to you!
[19:29:35] <Bytram> can I get back to you in, say, 48 hours? ;)
[19:29:28] <janrinok> have a safe one, and I hope you sleep well
[19:29:19] <Bytram> depends on how well I sleep tonight
[19:29:09] <Bytram> possibly, got a full day ahead
[19:28:51] <janrinok> take care bud, see you tomorrow?
[19:28:50] <Bytram> give my best to S, and you get some sleep, ya hear?
[19:28:38] <Bytram> good chatting w/ you as always!
[19:28:30] <Bytram> janrinok: yeah, time is getting on.
[19:28:26] <janrinok> mine is pickled too
[19:28:18] <Bytram> OTOH, my brain is well-preserved from all my drinking in my youth.
[19:28:15] <janrinok> it's almost that time again. A pleasure as always
[19:27:24] <Bytram> same problem, here.
[19:27:14] <janrinok> even I wouldn't buy it - but I know where it has been....
[19:26:41] <janrinok> lol - how much do you think you'd get for my body?
[19:26:30] * Bytram decides against it
[19:26:17] * Bytram ponders selling janrinok's body, instead
[19:26:05] <Bytram> 286 @ 10MHz w/ 1 wait state, or 12 MHz with 2; 40 MB hard disk!
[19:25:45] <janrinok> OK, it might be getting close to biting the bullet time. Even if you have to sell your body or something
[19:25:26] <Bytram> sure beats the first few boxes I'd bought
[19:25:06] * Bytram has another stick, but the screen is busted and I'm afraid that if I open it up to add the memory, it will kill it for good.
[19:25:06] <janrinok> I've never heard of such an over-specc'ed machine
[19:24:40] <Bytram> LMAO!
[19:24:35] <janrinok> throw away half of that - you'll never use it!
[19:24:33] <Bytram> drive spins at a whopping 5400 RPM, too!
[19:24:15] <Bytram> 1.25 gig
[19:24:01] <janrinok> break it to me gently - how much mem?
[19:23:31] <janrinok> well, you'll _never_ fill it!
[19:22:41] <Bytram> has a HUGE hard disk, too! 80GB !!!
[19:22:10] <Bytram> ROFL!
[19:21:59] <janrinok> almost new
[19:21:51] <Bytram> =)
[19:21:42] * Bytram doesn't understand, it's only 9y10m old!
[19:21:23] * Bytram gets occasional disk errors
[19:21:15] <Bytram> appreciated, but this laptop is *well* past prime
[19:20:19] <janrinok> but that is en-uk
[19:20:08] <janrinok> I've got win 7 available but not installed anywhere
[19:19:38] <Bytram> but, win 8.1?
[19:19:30] * Bytram saw a couple HP laptops on special at wally world for $350-$400 and is tempted
[19:17:47] <janrinok> understood
[19:17:40] * Bytram would love to have a newer box, but $$
[19:17:25] <janrinok> good enuf!
[19:17:17] <Bytram> yup, came with my pc
[19:16:49] <janrinok> do you use XP for any particular reason?
[19:16:17] <Bytram> hmmm
[19:16:11] <Bytram> yup. my thoughts exactly
[19:16:00] <janrinok> well, I suppose if you can display UTF-8 on the clipboard and in files it must support it
[19:15:28] <Bytram> it has not caused me any unexpected problems, yet.
[19:15:18] <Bytram> well, let me rephrase that
[19:15:03] <Bytram> janrinok: sure does
[19:14:59] <aqu4> No title found.
[19:14:58] <Bytram> I got clipcopy from here: http://www.dreamcycle.net
[19:14:35] <janrinok> does winxp understand UTF-8?
[19:14:22] * Bytram has downloaded a tool he found: clipcopy.exe
[19:14:05] <Bytram> but, since it *thinks* it is ASCII, it has certain ideas as to what the size of a *character* is.
[19:13:41] <Bytram> it would be like trying to persuade it to understand EBCDIC -- at the lowest level, it's just a buncha bytes
[19:11:56] * janrinok will have to start searching again
[19:11:38] <Bytram> I don't think so.
[19:10:47] <janrinok> so can it be 'persuaded'?
[19:08:05] <Bytram> which makes sense, doh. it was written back in '97 or so
[19:06:46] <Bytram> ugh. wcopy is not UTF-8 aware, it seems.
[19:00:31] <Bytram> works fine on prod w/ 0x01-0x1f
[18:51:21] <Bytram> brb
[18:51:19] <Bytram> it appears that any char < 0x1f is giving me a boom, still investigating.
[18:50:53] <Bytram> yuppers.
[18:47:38] <janrinok> stunned and flabbergasted - well that certainly is worth something
[18:47:10] <Bytram> flabbergasted
[18:46:57] <Bytram> all the time I could have saved...
[18:46:57] <janrinok> shocked and stunned, or jus stunned?
[18:46:48] <Bytram> I got that toolset back in the early 90's and didn't know it had that tool in there!
[18:46:34] <Bytram> I am absolutely *stunned*
[18:44:51] * janrinok acknowledges another satisfied customer
[18:44:17] <janrinok> yippee!
[18:43:37] <Bytram> WooHoo!
[18:43:33] <Bytram> didn't know it had BOTH wcopy and wpaste!
[18:43:16] <Bytram> I have the MKS Toolkit installed from a long long long time ago...
[18:42:55] <Bytram> AHA!
[18:42:31] <janrinok> not convinced but I don't know Windows very well
[18:42:11] <janrinok> the clip.exe program is available via Win Server 2003 and works on XP according to one post
[18:41:58] * Bytram goes to check his MKS install
[18:40:55] <janrinok> ah, I'll refine my search
[18:40:40] * Bytram has XP atm
[18:40:24] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.clipboardextender.com/general-clipboard-use/command-window-output-to-clipboard-in-vista": "3Vista clipboard trick - command line output to clipboard"
[18:40:23] <janrinok> quote: With Vista or higher, it's built in. Just pipe output to the "clip" program. Here's a writeup (by me): http://www.clipboardextender.com The article also contains a link to a free utility (written by Me, I think) called Dos2Clip, which can be used on XP.
[18:40:13] * Bytram searches for aaa batteries
[18:40:07] <Bytram> and my cordless mouse just ran out of juice
[18:39:55] <Bytram> huh? MKS? I've got that...
[18:39:40] <Bytram> yeh, np
[18:39:30] <janrinok> oops, that last one is writing from clipboard - sry
[18:38:54] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/wpaste.1.asp": "3wpaste -- write clipboard text to standard output or a specified file"
[18:38:53] <janrinok> https://www.mkssoftware.com and this?
[18:38:12] <aqu4> Title for page "http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6832203/access-clipboard-in-windows-batch-file": "3Access clipboard in Windows batch file - Stack Overflow"
[18:38:11] <janrinok> http://stackoverflow.com - try this?
[18:37:15] <Bytram> natch.
[18:37:09] <aqu4> No title found.
[18:37:08] <Bytram> http://www.dreamcycle.net
[18:37:03] <Bytram> thanks for that!
[18:36:59] <Bytram> LOL!
[18:35:20] <janrinok> Scorpio - another good sign
[18:35:02] <Bytram> hmmm, registered in 2004... that's a good sign
[18:34:42] * janrinok reckons that there are millions of sites he's never heard of...
[18:34:19] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:34:16] * Bytram had never heard of that site before
[18:34:06] <janrinok> ajh, still answering that particular question
[18:33:57] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=15720": "3Redirect screen output to clipboard - DonationCoder.com"
[18:33:55] <Bytram> http://www.donationcoder.com
[18:33:49] * Bytram wants to be able to send the contents of a file directly to the windows clipboard
[18:33:07] <janrinok> interesting in what way?
[18:32:52] <Bytram> maybe not. :/
[18:32:44] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.petri.co.il/software/clip.zip": "3404 Not Found"
[18:32:43] <Bytram> hmmm, this looks promising: http://www.petri.co.il
[18:19:58] <Bytram> afk biab
[18:05:39] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/7pfcg": "3Organic LEDs, Carbon Nanotubes May Light Up Future Fabrics - SoylentNews"
[18:05:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Organic LEDs, Carbon Nanotubes May Light Up Future Fabrics - http://sylnt.us - give-me-glowing-clothes
[18:04:43] <Bytram> and a couple lamp cords.
[18:04:38] <Bytram> keyboard cable too
[18:04:27] <Bytram> hey! what's wrong with this mouse? Huh? Oh! Grrrrrr!
[18:04:13] <Bytram> computer mice cord
[18:04:08] <Landon> hehehe
[18:04:05] <Bytram> anything handy got chewed
[18:03:58] <Bytram> didn't matter
[18:03:49] <Landon> not at that stage yet, but we've got the chewy toys prepped and ready in the drawer
[18:03:32] * Bytram long ago had a yorkie... as a pup it chewed *everything*
[18:03:23] <Landon> or a younger puppy, from what we read, the breeder must have done significant amounts of housebreaking and bite inhibition before we got her
[18:03:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:03:00] <Landon> anyways, puppies are hell, this does not make me want to have a kid
[18:02:05] <Bytram> the permutations become quite, umm, interesting!
[18:01:32] <Landon> but have some stretches where you get a burst of current for zipping over the pad ;)
[18:01:14] <Landon> wouldn't it be slower to last longer
[18:01:03] <Landon> well
[18:00:46] <Landon> hellish, put it in
[18:00:26] <Bytram> so, one would need to go slower over the charging pads to be able to go faster? ;)
[17:59:50] <Landon> hah! reading about Formula E racing: Since the racing is usually done on a closed circuit they could implement inductive charging in the future( and perhaps power-ups ). Who wouldn't want to watch that?
[17:59:35] * Bytram does not see it, yet.
[17:59:33] <janrinok> hi Landon
[17:59:28] <Bytram> says that clip.exe comes with windows?
[17:59:21] <aqu4> Title for page "http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17819814/how-can-you-get-the-clipboard-contents-with-a-windows-command": "3dos - How can you get the clipboard contents with a Windows command? - Stack Overflow"
[17:59:20] <Bytram> interesting... this: http://stackoverflow.com
[17:58:50] <Bytram> Landon: Hey! Good to 'see' you!
[17:58:46] <aqu4> Title for page "http://imgur.com/UAH0JZ1": "3 Imgur"
[17:58:46] <Landon> have some puppy pictures http://imgur.com http://imgur.com
[17:58:30] <Landon> 'lo all
[17:58:26] <Landon> 0xb00mb00m
[17:55:50] <Bytram> hmmm, it would be a lot easier if I had a program that could read a file and copy its contents to the windows clipboard...
[17:55:14] <Bytram> 0x01 goes BOOM
[17:50:33] <Bytram> binary search commences
[17:50:26] <Bytram> thanks, but that's still 16 chars... could be just ONE of them...
[17:49:57] <janrinok> narrowed that one down nicely then :)
[17:49:26] <Bytram> 0x10-0x1f goes BOOM
[17:47:52] <Bytram> strangely, cannot do ALT+nnn in palemoon on winxp for values less than 0x20
[17:47:18] <Bytram> saw same problem with 0x00-0x1f -- trying to narrow that down, too.
[17:46:50] <Bytram> yup, confirmed.
[17:44:56] <Bytram> BOOM!
[17:44:49] * Bytram tries a coment containing *just* one char: 0x7f
[17:44:25] <janrinok> reasonable wish
[17:44:10] <Bytram> but I'd like to isolate the bug as much as possible
[17:44:00] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:43:54] <Bytram> In this case, I suspect it is 0x7f
[17:43:50] <janrinok> your job is to find the bugs, not fix 'em
[17:43:43] <Bytram> still trying to narrow down what char(s) cause the problem.
[17:43:32] * Bytram has no idea
[17:43:25] <janrinok> something related to Apache2?
[17:43:25] <Bytram> I didn't really want to post a story to production for testing purposes, so created a journal entry, instead
[17:43:02] <Bytram> had same error when trying to post those as a comment to a story on dev
[17:43:01] <janrinok> yes, that's my experience too
[17:42:41] <Bytram> so, it looks like it USED TO work, but not now, on dev
[17:42:20] <janrinok> oh, on prod yes, but you know the gremlins better than I
[17:42:19] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[17:42:17] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, slash@dev.soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[17:42:17] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[17:42:16] <Bytram> OK
[17:42:16] <Bytram> when I tried to do the same on dev.soylentnews.org, I get:
[17:41:53] <Bytram> that worked okay on prod.
[17:41:28] <janrinok> that should do for starters, then try € £ $ because they often work too
[17:41:26] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=6768&cid=163878": "3SoylentNews Comments | UTF-8 Regression Testing "
[17:41:25] <Bytram> see: https://soylentnews.org
[17:40:59] <Bytram> wooops!
[17:40:52] <Bytram> p_q_r_s_t_u_v_w_x_y_z_{_|_}_~_
[17:40:51] <Bytram> `_a_b_c_d_e_f_g_h_i_j_k_l_m_n_o
[17:40:51] <Bytram> P_Q_R_S_T_U_V_W_X_Y_Z_[_\_]_^__
[17:40:51] <Bytram> @_A_B_C_D_E_F_G_H_I_J_K_L_M_N_O
[17:40:51] <Bytram> 0_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_9_:_;_<_=_>_?
[17:40:51] <Bytram> see: _!_"_#_$_%_&_'_(_)_*_+_,_-_._/
[17:40:30] <Bytram> BOOM!
[17:40:23] <janrinok> ah, the urge to break things overwhelms you again...?
[17:39:58] <Bytram> trying to get some testing in
[17:39:26] <janrinok> not bad thx, and you?
[17:38:47] <Bytram> janrinok: hey! How's things?
[17:38:31] <ciri> what's going on? janrinok
[17:38:30] <janrinok> hi Bytram
[17:38:15] janrinok|afk is now known as janrinok
[17:16:02] <aqu4> Title for page "http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/5QOusOxq3HU/": "3Mini-review: Intel’s powered-up Core i7 Broadwell mini PC | Ars Technica"
[17:16:01] <Bytram> http://feeds.arstechnica.com
[17:12:48] <Bytram> that's better
[17:12:43] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+garner+video+youtube": "3eric garner video youtube - Google Search"
[17:12:42] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[16:57:45] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+garner+video+youtube&client=ubuntu&hs=2ox&channel=fs&gbv=1&sei=9y4YVd3tHcuzggSzwIPIDQ": "3eric garner video youtube - Google Search"
[16:57:44] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[16:57:07] * Bytram really does not want to include THAT link in the story...
[16:56:42] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=eric+garner+video+youtube&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8": "3eric garner video youtube - Google Search"
[16:56:41] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[16:50:25] <Bytram> hola! anybody here?
[16:34:21] <autoexec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 30°F / -1°C, sunny, wind W at 1 mph, humidity 26% - Sunday partly cloudy (18°F-38°F / -8°C-3°C), Monday rain and snow (30°F-41°F / -1°C-5°C), Tuesday snow showers (12°F-41°F / -11°C-5°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (10°F-32°F / -12°C-0°C)
[16:34:20] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[16:34:14] <autoexec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 37°F / 3°C, sunny, wind NW at 5 mph, humidity 24% - Sunday sunny (28°F-39°F / -2°C-4°C), Monday showers (32°F-43°F / 0°C-6°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (24°F-45°F / -4°C-7°C), Wednesday sunny (24°F-42°F / -4°C-6°C)
[16:34:13] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[16:34:06] <autoexec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 35°F / 2°C, sunny, wind N at 3 mph, humidity 33% - Sunday mostly sunny (29°F-40°F / -2°C-4°C), Monday scattered showers (33°F-45°F / 1°C-7°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (31°F-47°F / -1°C-8°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (31°F-44°F / -1°C-7°C)
[16:34:04] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[16:33:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1222
[16:33:43] <Bytram> coffee++
[16:33:31] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5176, owned by HOLOGRAPHICpizza
[16:33:30] <Bytram> !uid
[16:33:20] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[16:32:32] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by Imogen
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[16:04:07] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/izuvf": "3Phone Made of Grass - SoylentNews"
[16:04:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Phone Made of Grass - http://sylnt.us - i-want-everything-organic
[15:12:05] janrinok is now known as janrinok|afk
[14:33:54] <chromas> Aw
[14:33:44] <chromas> $titlectl ignore Bender
[14:32:57] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/8-36m": "3China is DDOSing Github - SoylentNews"
[14:32:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China is DDOSing Github - http://sylnt.us - must-stop-Rehash-development!
[14:19:23] * CoolHand ain't real bright though, so we'll see if he can figure any of it out
[14:19:05] <CoolHand> i'll have to check that out
[14:18:31] * chromas gives FoobarBazbot the stinkeye
[14:18:03] <chromas> SedBot uses the related ii
[14:17:43] <aqu4> Title for page "http://tools.suckless.org/sic": "3sic | suckless.org tools"
[14:17:42] <chromas> http://tools.suckless.org
[14:16:30] <CoolHand> i haven't even heard of that
[14:15:50] <chromas> sic's great for scripting too :)
[14:12:41] * CoolHand ain't no real programmer, just a scripter
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[14:10:03] * chromas stands by for meta+cmd+butterfly
[14:09:27] <chromas> real programmers use sic
[14:07:57] <CoolHand> I agree with janrinok ! irssi!!!!
[13:40:20] beta is now known as PrincessKenny
[13:29:23] <janrinok> ah, hadn't seen that
[13:28:57] <chromas> yep. but then exec was on just a bit ago filling #github
[13:27:47] <janrinok> he said his lappy nearly died, was going to reboot, but never re-appeared...
[13:27:29] <chromas> oh it left again
[13:27:05] <chromas> but hasn't joined here
[13:27:00] <chromas> not sure what's up. exec is connected
[13:26:28] <janrinok> did crutchy's laptop not recover earlier?
[13:23:59] <chromas> no sir! xml forever!
[13:23:24] <janrinok> raw text FTW
[13:23:08] <janrinok> I doubt that would work on irssi....
[13:22:34] <chromas> there's an avatar system but I think only a couple irc clients support it
[13:22:03] <chromas> we need irc avatars
[13:21:42] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[13:21:42] <janrinok> lol
[13:21:13] * beta sucks!
[13:21:09] * janrinok is getting confused with nicks...
[13:20:45] <janrinok> hi beta
[13:20:29] <ciri> >.> janrinok
[13:20:28] <janrinok> hi chromas
[13:01:51] TheMightyJuggs is now known as beta
[13:01:51] <chromas> =nick beta
[13:01:48] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/8fp5y": "3RapidShare is no more (27 May 2002 — 31 Mar 2015) - SoylentNews"
[13:01:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RapidShare is no more (27 May 2002 — 31 Mar 2015) - http://sylnt.us - share-and-share-alike
[12:57:43] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 3
[12:57:43] <chromas> woohoo++
[12:57:40] <aqu4> Title for page "http://yahoo.com/": "3Yahoo"
[12:57:37] <chromas> test http://yahoo.com
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[12:57:21] <chromas> a little
[12:34:06] <janrinok> hi guys, anyone awake?
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[11:24:39] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (56.7 kb)
[11:24:37] <crutchy> ~q
[11:24:28] <crutchy> prolly ff
[11:24:25] <crutchy> actually, i think i might reboot since the fans whirring away like crazy. something must've made it grumpy
[11:23:50] <crutchy> my lappy almost died then
[11:23:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1221
[11:23:39] <crutchy> coffee++
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[11:11:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Winter can suck it. I'm ready for the warm again.
[11:10:29] <JamesNZ> (and no, I'm not making a GoT reference)
[11:10:02] <Bender> karma - summer: 3
[11:10:02] <JamesNZ> summer++ # Winter is coming :(
[11:08:12] <chromas> maybe a goatee that curves up like Dilbert's tie
[11:07:44] <chromas> but now it's easier to digitally try out different beard styles
[11:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Was a given. Summers with a beard suck.
[11:05:29] <JamesNZ> RIP TheMightyBuzzard's beard.
[11:03:53] <chromas> noooooo
[11:03:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Beard is gone now btw. Clean shaved face for the summer.
[10:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya. Typing sucks but at least I can read.
[10:54:16] <crutchy> still on your phone?
[10:53:38] <crutchy> ¿
[10:53:20] <crutchy> ++coffee
[10:42:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1220
[10:42:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Coffee++
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[10:29:53] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/10l4m": "3Autism - Possible Link to Gut Bacteria - SoylentNews"
[10:29:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Autism - Possible Link to Gut Bacteria - http://sylnt.us - spectrum-analysis-isn't-just-for-wifi-anymore
[09:20:27] <SirFinkus> Amazon Trail
[09:20:10] <SirFinkus> I think I've heard them in an old game I played
[09:19:58] <chromas> those noises are to dogs what dogs & babies in ads are to people
[09:19:57] <SirFinkus> obviously looping tropical birdsong
[09:19:42] <chromas> probably just to get attention
[09:19:09] <SirFinkus> spring noises now
[09:18:15] <SirFinkus> the camerawork is terrible too
[09:17:54] <SirFinkus> ringing noises, children laughing, buzzes
[09:17:21] <SirFinkus> they cram every annoying sound effect in the world
[09:17:04] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5k00NVlKW0": "3DOGTV STIMULATION: THE DOG PARK - YouTube"
[09:16:54] <SirFinkus> this one has the worst public domain music I've ever heard https://www.youtube.com
[09:13:51] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-dc14lNzwY": "3DOGTV Stimulation: Dog Playing in Corn Field - YouTube"
[09:13:36] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[09:13:26] <chromas> that's good for those LCD tvs where everything's black at a dog's level
[09:12:54] <SirFinkus> literally tv for your dog
[09:12:00] <aqu4> Title for page "https://dogtv.com": "3DOGTV | Television for dogs"
[09:11:56] <SirFinkus> this exists
[09:11:54] <SirFinkus> https://dogtv.com
[09:11:37] <SirFinkus> pfft
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[08:42:27] <arti> of their own
[08:41:24] <chromas> I don't think China has any fires
[08:40:00] <arti> hulu has a movie called "Eternal Chinese Aftermath"
[08:39:50] <arti> how about
[08:39:28] <chromas> for an hour
[08:39:18] <arti> is it just a loop of flickering flames?
[08:38:16] <chromas> (this fireplace has not been rated)
[08:38:08] <chromas> hulu has a movie called "Fireplace for Your Home"
[08:30:00] <arti> wonder how those taste
[08:28:22] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/j69xd": "3Date Palm Grown from 2,000 Year-Old Seed is Reproducing - SoylentNews"
[08:28:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Date Palm Grown from 2,000 Year-Old Seed is Reproducing - http://sylnt.us - very-very-long-courtship
[08:26:18] <Bender> karma - jetbrains: 3
[08:26:18] <crutchy> jetbrains++ # cos i really wanna try out phpstorm
[08:19:31] <prospectacle> you too
[08:19:19] <arti> alright sir, have a good one
[08:19:06] <prospectacle> i better go help with the washing up, bbl
[08:18:26] <prospectacle> as you say there is already hardware and core software libraries to do the basic tasks
[08:18:05] <prospectacle> i guess a lot of the work to be done is software, like save a motion, put it on various backgrounds, zoom and pan while moving the "characters" where you want them, then integrating it with regular video editing reatures
[08:16:31] <arti> the technology is cool though, little things like being able to remove motion from a scene
[08:16:02] <prospectacle> yeah true
[08:15:49] <arti> they made a game that uses a mechanic to follow your dance moves, so the tech is there
[08:15:35] <arti> i think something like that could be rigged up with the xbox motion sensor dealie
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[08:14:30] <prospectacle> maybe one day motion capture will be cheap/good enough that we can all make animated home movies just by acting it out and then editing
[08:14:06] <prospectacle> animation takes forever, I don't know how anyone does it
[08:13:37] <arti> i've done some animation, but not a complete project
[08:13:23] <prospectacle> do u ever perform it or put it into a game or movie or anything?
[08:13:12] <arti> experiment with a lot of stuff
[08:12:55] <prospectacle> cool its quite dark without being bleak
[08:04:52] <arti> i like diging through old files sometimes
[08:04:51] <prospectacle> making music is hard
[08:04:40] <prospectacle> cool, can i listen?
[08:04:30] <arti> listening to some old music i made
[08:04:21] <prospectacle> that'll do it. I love chatting drunk. Do you also have a tv show or movie on?
[08:03:25] <arti> 1:03 am, sheets to the wind
[08:03:11] <prospectacle> ah well you're probably just warming up. i'm always better later in the day, and it's like 7 of the pm here now
[08:02:16] <arti> 57wpm :/
[08:00:48] <prospectacle> I think I beat my PB this morning but I haven't really been keeping a tally
[08:00:31] <prospectacle> do you wanna test yourself at my game? typerise.com
[08:00:10] <arti> yeah, i don't code nearly as fast as i type
[08:00:07] <prospectacle> do you think many people would use such a thing?
[07:59:56] <prospectacle> I find code is much harder to type accurately
[07:59:49] <arti> it's really awesome, especially for something written in filthy java :>
[07:59:48] <prospectacle> I was thinking of adding a code-mode to my typing game, as coders have to learn different symbols than most people
[07:59:01] <prospectacle> oh yeah I recognise that ide, a guy at work uses it
[07:58:48] * arti isn't really fond of nodejs
[07:58:38] <arti> i've found grunt really helpful too
[07:58:33] <prospectacle> ah, cool thanks
[07:58:22] <prospectacle> chromas, you're right, i used to mess around with vbscript, but since ie didn't take over the internet (so close) i figured I'd better learn the universal one.
[07:58:12] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/": "3WebStorm :: The smartest JavaScript IDE"
[07:58:11] <arti> https://www.jetbrains.com
[07:57:38] <prospectacle> what's webstorm?
[07:57:34] <chromas> now everything's written in js
[07:57:17] <arti> nobody used the internet then either :P
[07:57:01] <arti> projecting
[07:56:43] <arti> pfft
[07:56:40] <chromas> nobody used it then
[07:56:37] <arti> fantastic~
[07:56:32] <arti> came out in the 90s :|
[07:56:21] <chromas> javascript is the visualbasic of the 2000s
[07:56:03] <arti> makes it really sweet
[07:55:55] <arti> if you end up going the typescript route, and are interested in angular i recommend using webstorm
[07:55:18] <prospectacle> i have peeked at angular but not tried it out
[07:55:09] <prospectacle> personally I love js because every computer supports it. For proper storage, etc, you need a server, but as far as the user's concerned that only needs an internet connection turned on, which is not uncommon.
[07:54:05] <arti> have you peeked at angular?
[07:53:48] <prospectacle> no i haven't looked at typescript
[07:52:26] <arti> boils down to client support
[07:52:01] <arti> scoped out typescript?
[07:51:56] <crutchy> i've only used limited css3 things, like separate scroll controls
[07:51:56] <prospectacle> arti, just getting to know what can be done natively that used to required a hacky workaround
[07:51:51] <arti> chromas, you can use preprocessors for that
[07:51:37] <arti> animootion?
[07:51:34] <prospectacle> the <canvas> is pretty good though
[07:51:34] <chromas> does css have named constants yet?
[07:51:30] <arti> what parts?
[07:51:20] <prospectacle> yeah i'm still getting my head around css3 etc
[07:51:12] <Bender> karma - frameworks: -8
[07:51:12] <crutchy> frameworks--
[07:51:05] <crutchy> i'm a stick in the mud though
[07:50:51] <crutchy> i sorta prefer html4.01+js to some of this new fangled html5 stuff
[07:50:50] <prospectacle> easy to make bad, messy apps with, no doubt, and not as fast as proper c++ or whatever, but interesting things can be built with it, and useful things
[07:50:35] <arti> yeah the javascript engine wars were fabulous
[07:50:21] <prospectacle> it's gotten a lot faster too
[07:50:16] <prospectacle> js can do some pretty good stuff - ad-hoc object structures, closures, dynamic arrays. It also comes with the web as a built in interface so that's cool
[07:50:09] * arti brands crutchy with a gnu symbol
[07:49:55] <crutchy> ahh the internet.. i'll go there someday
[07:49:31] <arti> saw a reference to that earlier today somewhere on the internet
[07:49:10] <crutchy> 'i eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast' :p
[07:48:47] <crutchy> reminds me of that happy gilmore bit
[07:47:05] * arti reads in arnie voice
[07:46:34] <exec> 03[2015-03-29 07:23:30] # <tama> NCommander eats bots as midnight snacks
[07:46:31] <crutchy> ~last nick=tama channel=#
[07:44:45] <arti> achievement unlocked: humble
[07:44:29] <crutchy> just what i've come across
[07:44:21] <crutchy> ah. i dunno if i would call it advice
[07:44:01] <prospectacle> thanks crutchy for the advice. Regarding the touch screen typing, it's one of those transformer thingies with a snap-on keyboard, so that's ok
[07:42:10] <crutchy> yup
[07:42:05] <arti> that's quitter talk
[07:41:49] * crutchy doesn't know js well enough to do any proper app coding with it
[07:40:39] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.appcelerator.com/titanium/titanium-sdk/": "3Appcelerator Titanium SDK | Mobile App Development | Appcelerator Inc."
[07:40:39] <arti> http://www.appcelerator.com
[07:40:27] <crutchy> it just stinks as a language
[07:40:02] <crutchy> only when i have to
[07:39:45] <crutchy> barely
[07:39:37] <arti> you do js ya?
[07:39:21] <crutchy> it stinks like oracle too much
[07:38:57] <crutchy> haven't really got motivated enough to try android development. i'm reluctant to attempt java
[07:37:46] <arti> yeah, i've also used titanium which also has an emulator
[07:37:40] <chromas> material—windows 8 for android
[07:36:59] <crutchy> (for testing)
[07:36:59] <arti> material seems neat
[07:36:45] <crutchy> best thing i've heard about for android development is using the official tools, which i think comes with an emulator
[07:35:44] <crutchy> there's also some coding apps, but trying to code in a touch interface is... challenging
[07:35:11] <crutchy> there's terminal emulators, php/web servers (unfortunately i'm yet to find a cli php interpreter) and sgit for dealing with github repos
[07:33:51] <crutchy> prospectacle, i've tried a few dev apps from google play. some are better than others, but without a rooted device its pretty hard to find anything that's really useful
[07:32:39] <crutchy> ciao!
[07:24:28] * mrcoolbp goes to bed
[07:24:20] <mrcoolbp> mrgoodnight
[07:23:34] <prospectacle> later mrbp who is cool
[07:18:39] <chromas> night, mrsleepbp
[07:17:55] * mrcoolbp is about to go to bed but waves at crutchy, prospectacle, and chromas
[07:10:40] <prospectacle> I'm looking for some good developer apps to put on a little tablet/notebook I've got that has android. Preferably open source, but doesn't have to be
[07:10:13] <prospectacle> Hey do you have any androids?
[07:10:05] <prospectacle> Yeah I'm like that with my projects too.
[07:08:39] <crutchy> the link before was just a little test page to harass the title bots with :p
[07:07:57] <crutchy> heh. pretty slow. i worked on it a little while back again but i'm too much of a gunna-do and easily distracted
[06:41:38] <prospectacle> how's your irciv game going? I saw some links to it or something earlier
[06:41:16] <prospectacle> good thanks, about the same
[06:39:05] <crutchy> how you mate?
[06:38:57] <crutchy> not much. lazy sunday
[06:37:08] <prospectacle> what's been happening people
[06:36:57] <prospectacle> hooray prospectacle is back
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[06:26:50] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/vrv8o": "3UK Safari Users Can Sue Google in the UK for Tracking Browsing - SoylentNews"
[06:26:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Safari Users Can Sue Google in the UK for Tracking Browsing - http://sylnt.us - putting-a-value-on-privacy
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[05:56:26] <chromas> that's a little older
[05:56:12] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/theres-island-trash-pacific-size-texas-and-im-goin-1387?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook": "3There’s An Island Of Trash In The Pacific The Siz... | ClickHole"
[05:56:12] <exec> 03[2014-11-16 21:58:54] #darknedgy <Wes> http://www.clickhole.com
[05:56:04] <chromas> ~first channel= message=clickhole.com
[05:55:49] <chromas> it's like if the onion did buzzfeed, except that's what it is
[05:55:31] <chromas> who linked clickhole earlier? it's funny
[05:55:14] <chromas> ha
[05:55:02] <crutchy> maybe you gave it unrealistic regexpectations?
[05:53:38] <chromas> now the regex breaks the bot and it works fine hitting the page
[05:53:25] <chromas> so queerest thing; pr0gramm.com used to break my bot, then I added a regex to ignore those urls
[05:52:14] <crutchy> Abstract Source Software
[05:51:42] * chromas pulls his OS hole from scratch
[05:51:05] <chromas> [trend broken]
[05:50:53] <crutchy> its mr and mrs torvalds' fault. they should have called linus butthole instead
[05:50:13] <crutchy> hmm i guess it would have to be an OS from scratch that used gnu utils
[05:49:17] * crutchy wonders if he made a linux distribution called 'butthole' that used a lot of gnu tools if stallman would want it to be called 'gnu/butthole'
[05:46:48] <crutchy> its prolly under attack from the pro-tossers
[05:46:32] * chromas blames the hive cluster
[05:46:24] <chromas> could be, but I think I've got a 💩 in my code somewhere
[05:46:23] <crutchy> or doesn't moropory use curl?
[05:45:55] <crutchy> yeah that
[05:45:50] <chromas> curl?
[05:45:28] <crutchy> not wget.... dammit brain no worka
[05:45:12] <crutchy> do they have different versions of that downloady program that downloads things?
[05:44:29] <crutchy> maybe moropory needs a poopchecker?
[05:43:03] <chromas> even when it's supposed to ignore them
[05:42:53] <chromas> If I run monopory on my desktop it works, but if I run it on the server then it chokes on pr0gramm links
[05:42:32] <chromas> nah, home PCs ruined all those possibilities
[05:42:01] <crutchy> 16 bit bytes?
[05:41:46] <chromas> there's something strange in the bothood
[05:41:11] <crutchy> you're the poopchecker
[05:40:53] * chromas concludes; it doth need wiping
[05:40:40] <crutchy> chromas, check for poop
[05:40:35] <crutchy> hmm. i think that might still be the dog poop character, but i'm not 100% sure
[05:39:52] <crutchy> nope
[05:39:44] <aqu4> Title for page "http://irciv.us.to/heh.htm": "3 💩ACTION chucks a nasty rotten burrito at itself💩"
[05:39:44] <crutchy> http://irciv.us.to
[05:39:31] * chromas blames arti
[05:39:06] <crutchy> aww. no decoding entities?!
[05:38:50] <aqu4> Title for page "http://irciv.us.to/heh.htm": "3heh&#13;&#10;💩ACTION chucks a nasty rotten burrito at itself💩"
[05:38:50] <crutchy> http://irciv.us.to
[05:36:11] <prospectacle> I think that's a personal best
[05:36:04] <prospectacle> alright! 103wpm 99% accuracy (although I only did it for a minute)
[05:26:04] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/rmu0c": "3Deltawing Cars to Stretch the Reign of Internal Combustion Engine Manufacturers - SoylentNews"
[05:26:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deltawing Cars to Stretch the Reign of Internal Combustion Engine Manufacturers - http://sylnt.us - show-me-the-family-model
[05:15:11] <aqu4> No title found.
[05:15:02] <chromas> http://www.derrycu.com
[05:14:39] <chromas> Doing an image search, all the ones with that type of font also lack relieved characters
[05:12:41] <chromas> even has the Ribbon®™&©
[05:12:19] <chromas> it might. recent versions are fancier
[05:12:06] <prospectacle> never mind
[05:12:05] <prospectacle> oh wait mspaint doesn't have a blur feature
[05:11:55] <prospectacle> then we can all sympathise
[05:11:37] <prospectacle> Just rearrange them in mspaint, blurring all the edges of each number-section so we can't tell what joins with what. Should only take you an hour or so
[05:10:43] <SirFinkus> I'd take a picture, but yeah
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[05:09:58] <chromas> needs comic sans ms
[05:09:50] <SirFinkus> it looks like arial
[05:09:40] <chromas> Is it papyrus?
[05:07:56] <SirFinkus> I got my new debit card today, the font for the numbers is hideous
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[05:04:25] <prospectacle> What?! I'm amazed its karma is so low.
[04:58:16] <Bender> karma - furbys_clickhole: 1
[04:58:16] <chromas> furbys_clickhole++
[04:53:56] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.clickhole.com/article/what-would-it-be-if-real-woman-had-furbys-proporti-1698": "3What Would It Be Like If A Real Woman Had Furby’s... | ClickHole"
[04:53:55] <prospectacle> Is this really the standard of beauty we want to set: http://www.clickhole.com
[04:50:59] <crutchy> oh yes there was two threes
[04:50:33] <crutchy> err. ciri?
[04:50:26] <ciri> 10!
[04:50:24] <ciri> 9
[04:50:22] <ciri> 8
[04:50:20] <ciri> 7
[04:50:18] <ciri> 6
[04:50:16] <ciri> 5
[04:50:14] <ciri> 4
[04:50:10] <ciri> 10!
[04:50:10] <crutchy> lmao
[04:50:08] <ciri> 9
[04:50:08] <crutchy> It looks to me that it's a guitar.
[04:50:06] <ciri> 8
[04:50:05] <SirFinkus> honestly don't look more complex than an average metal song, which isn't super complex
[04:50:04] <ciri> 7
[04:50:04] <crutchy>
[04:50:02] <ciri> 6
[04:50:02] <crutchy> 3 months ago
[04:50:00] <ciri> 5
[04:50:00] <crutchy> Darth Potato
[04:49:59] <ciri> 4
[04:49:58] <crutchy> ·
[04:49:58] <crutchy> Reply
[04:49:58] <crutchy> anyone wht hes playing on
[04:49:58] <crutchy>
[04:49:58] <crutchy> 3 months ago
[04:49:57] <crutchy> James Wiggins
[04:49:11] <prospectacle> afternoon
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[04:48:47] <SirFinkus> I don't understand why people are so impressed by this
[04:46:17] <crutchy> "This is what happens when try hard fags get internet."
[04:43:53] <arti> found it!
[04:43:06] <aqu4> No title found.
[04:43:05] <crutchy> http://paste.my.to
[04:42:24] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSrfwBSZJyU": "3Knife Party - Centipede (Guitar Cover) - YouTube"
[04:42:23] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[04:42:10] <crutchy> the comments in youtube
[04:42:05] <crutchy> lmao
[04:40:41] <arti> u want prey game?
[04:40:32] <crutchy> what happened to moropory?
[04:40:14] <arti> :S
[04:40:12] * arti waits for pasta to boil
[04:40:01] <arti> shawing
[04:39:43] <chromas> ding!
[04:39:36] <arti> also, ball curve
[04:39:29] <chromas> I think there's a bell curve in there
[04:39:24] <arti> healthy :D:D
[04:39:17] <arti> pooping a lot means you're healty :D
[04:39:07] <chromas> he's…the one
[04:39:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient: I hope that, when they do, my shits are rich with nutrients.
[04:39:04] <chromas> he's an anomaly
[04:38:23] <Ethanol-fueled> How could such a polymorphously perverse individual exist in Arizona?
[04:38:07] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: the gerbils will feast on thy flesh
[04:37:53] <Ethanol-fueled> what's up Subsentient.
[04:37:48] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVKACGr2bFs": "3Zomboy - Nuclear (Guitar Cover) - YouTube"
[04:37:46] <crutchy> occasionally i come back to this just to see what this guy's fingers can do to a neck. porn for my ears. https://www.youtube.com
[04:37:09] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH @ arti's "massa" comment.
[04:35:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm one shitposter among a sea of good intent. Good to see that devils' advocates are well-protected here.
[04:34:22] <paulej72> no problem Ethanol-fueled I would have got it fixed sooner, but I missed you the last two times I saw you here.
[04:33:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Lata pauley. Thanks!
[04:33:40] <SirFinkus> night
[04:33:40] <arti> later massa
[04:33:34] <paulej72> laters all
[04:33:13] <paulej72> bed time for me folks
[04:30:47] <SirFinkus> idk, doesn't work on me
[04:27:45] <arti> the sound of inflation
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[04:27:21] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzNzgsAE4F0": "3Shepard Tone - YouTube"
[04:27:21] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03Shepard Tone - YouTube
[04:27:20] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:27:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Bow to infinitely-rising pitch
[04:27:10] <arti> Subsentient: cooch :D
[04:27:01] <arti> crutchy, i've heard that sound on a massive speaker (i r audio noobz)
[04:26:59] <Subsentient> arti: As I am a white rat, I'm always naked. I prefer to scare people by coming out of their couch.
[04:26:22] <arti> is this what you listen to when you wiggle around naked inside of a beanbag chair Subsentient?
[04:26:17] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: that sounded like a foghorn or the fart of a fatman.
[04:26:16] <crutchy> "This is the sound of the aftermath when I eat to much chilli beans..."
[04:26:11] <crutchy> lmao
[04:25:35] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HX74UhgMFA": "3The Glitch Mob - Fortune days - YouTube"
[04:25:28] <aqu4> Channel cycle complete.
[04:25:28] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
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[04:25:25] <Subsentient> $cycle autotitle on
[04:25:20] <Subsentient> Wait, title bot is gone
[04:25:10] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[04:24:46] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[04:24:29] <arti> the most epic sound was in war of the worlds, the horn thingy
[04:21:46] <crutchy> put a movie on and you can feel it in yer bones
[04:21:19] <crutchy> good for movies. music doesn't seem to do it justice much. the mains handle most of that
[04:20:08] <crutchy> not the biggest, but they flap like yo mama :p
[04:19:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, those are some mean subs...those like 10-inchers? *PHHHBBFFFFFFT*
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[04:18:04] <SirFinkus> gives me practice on muting feedback and such
[04:17:57] <arti> those are pretty
[04:17:37] <Ethanol-fueled> I was kidding, fucker.
[04:17:19] <crutchy> http://www.jensenspeakers.com.au
[04:17:18] <crutchy> its a Jensen SPX-17
[04:17:08] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, nah for the sub
[04:17:03] <SirFinkus> I'd been using my computer to that point, so it's infinitely better than that
[04:17:02] <crutchy> 160W
[04:16:59] <crutchy> hmm. nope sry looks like its 16W
[04:16:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, is that for your headphone amp?
[04:16:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, the distortion on every amp like that sucks.
[04:15:40] <SirFinkus> the distortion sucks though
[04:15:27] <SirFinkus> the clean tones aren't half bad imo
[04:14:40] <SirFinkus> free shit? I'm not complaining
[04:14:37] <arti> neat: http://i.4cdn.org
[04:14:36] <crutchy> mine is only 120WRMS
[04:14:24] <crutchy> yeah i think you need better amp for the really low frequencies
[04:14:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Gawd Finkus, I'm sorry.
[04:14:17] * arti has flashbacks to gta3
[04:14:10] <arti> your headphones?
[04:14:05] <arti> o.o
[04:13:58] <SirFinkus> and loud enough to annoy the neighbors
[04:13:49] <SirFinkus> it was free
[04:13:47] <SirFinkus> peavey studio pro 40
[04:13:39] <SirFinkus> the low frequencies travel further, but the high ones are annoying as shit
[04:13:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, what make and model?
[04:13:31] <paulej72> my lappy dies at 120
[04:13:30] * crutchy wonders what it would do to a 10" sub
[04:13:22] * SirFinkus just got a new amp
[04:13:07] <Ethanol-fueled> You can't fight a creature that's immune to bass with....more bass.
[04:12:49] <Ethanol-fueled> My neighbor moved out. I won using A=440.
[04:12:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Nah, that's allright.
[04:12:20] <exec> 13Bass Test - 2000Hz - 1Hz. (Test your Subwoofer or Headphones, how low can you go :) ?) - YouTube
[04:12:16] <crutchy> ~title https://www.youtube.com
[04:12:04] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[04:11:47] <crutchy> my old panasonics can go down to about 19
[04:11:25] <paulej72> no brown note for you crutchy
[04:11:08] <crutchy> bugger. my sennheisers can only go down to about 25 hz
[04:10:52] <paulej72> that is evil SirFinkus
[04:06:30] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[04:05:19] <crutchy> yeah that's the one
[04:04:51] <paulej72> http://www.amazon.com
[04:04:34] <crutchy> nah its one of those jenga/kerplunk sort of games
[04:04:10] <Ethanol-fueled> is it like hungry hungry hippos?
[04:03:52] <crutchy> i guess its not a crocodile
[04:03:50] <crutchy> its called 'dino dinner'
[03:56:12] <crutchy> bit fiddly but eventually got it
[03:56:03] <crutchy> dunno. there's a plastic crocodile head with a bottom jaw that's got some little rubber band things that gotta go on hooks
[03:55:28] <paulej72> whats the crocodile game
[03:55:09] <Bender> Added quote 446
[03:55:09] <paulej72> !grab crutchy
[03:54:19] <crutchy> heh. now i'm an expert crocodile game putter-togetherer guy
[03:49:53] <Bender> Added quote 445
[03:49:53] <chromas> Bender: grab crutchy
[03:49:49] <ciri> don't ask me!
[03:49:49] <crutchy> how the hell does a fart like that come out of 6 yo
[03:49:39] <Bender> Added quote 444
[03:49:39] <chromas> Bender: grab crutchy
[03:49:37] <Bender> Added quote 443
[03:49:37] <chromas> Bender: grab paulej72
[03:49:23] <paulej72> a normal partent should laugh their ass off
[03:48:44] <paulej72> I adjusted how long we keep the ipid logs so we can better monitor improper spams, but as a result the subnet bans become more of an issue.
[03:48:37] <crutchy> maybe if i were a responsible parent i should be annoyed, but now i'm having trouble trying to stop myself from laughing
[03:47:51] <crutchy> my daughter just wandered down the hallway, turned around, farted in my direction and then wandered back
[03:47:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Thanks NCommander
[03:47:22] <crutchy> holy shit
[03:47:20] <Ethanol-fueled> It works now. Thanks Pauley!
[03:47:11] <paulej72> (3 -10 spam posts will do that to ya)
[03:47:11] <paulej72> crutchy: IPID Karma: -18 Subnet Karma: -18 Anonymous Posting Disabled
[03:46:09] <paulej72> but you should be able to post as AC while logged in
[03:45:31] <paulej72> crutchy: you should be fixed now for normal logged in posting. AC is still blocked for both you and Ethanol-fueled
[03:43:54] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: it should work now, I had to double restart for the var to set for some reason
[03:43:41] <crutchy> i don't post comments on SN that often anyway. yeah anything in perl is mad
[03:43:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Balancing the integrity of the discussion with free speech. In Perl. A burden worthy of respect.
[03:42:50] <crutchy> sorry if you already might have said or if its written somewhere
[03:42:42] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a project worthy in intent: to create a forum free of shitposts.
[03:42:36] <crutchy> nah tis ok. i was just curious if you know roughly how long a ban lasts for
[03:42:06] <paulej72> crutchy: paste the error and I'll look into it
[03:41:52] <crutchy> tama lama ding dongs are offensive
[03:41:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Hang your head in shame. I'm waiting...
[03:41:42] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, yeah i know
[03:41:37] <crutchy> am i banned for a month?
[03:41:33] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that's because you're a troll and you should be ashamed of yourself.
[03:41:27] <crutchy> but would be good to know roughly how long
[03:41:13] <crutchy> paulej72, i still can't comment cos it says all that stuff with "comment posting has temporarily been disabled"
[03:39:58] <Ethanol-fueled> The readership gets to not be offended, hahahah!
[03:39:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Eh, don't worry about it. Not that big a deal.
[03:39:03] <Ethanol-fueled> No workie
[03:35:08] <paulej72> I made the change and you should be able to comment logged in
[03:34:50] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: can you try it now
[03:30:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Besides, I can still log in somewhere else and make posts.
[03:30:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Making a lot of noise on Slashdot after being banned was because being banned back then was kind of a novelty. Now, it's business as usual worth a chuckle rather than a rant.
[03:29:59] <crutchy> 'guacamole bay'
[03:29:33] <Ethanol-fueled> no worries, pauley. I appreciate the effort in it. But if you had let the ban stand, I wouldn't make any noise about it. It comes with the territory.
[03:27:07] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: tracked down the var and we are going to make a change soonish
[03:26:44] <Ethanol-fueled> too bad they allowed Saleh to fall - he was a Saudi/American puppet who took money from us to let us have our way with his resident tarrorists.
[03:25:41] <Ethanol-fueled> If there's one thing I agree with that King Baraq Sotero is doing, it's telling the Ay-rabs to fight their own damn battles.
[03:25:05] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the AY-rabs are stepping up their game in the Middle-East. About damn time. I think it's hilarous that they've had their own forces all this time and have never used them.
[03:24:20] <crutchy> lmao 'Kebab Qaeda'
[03:23:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I've posted a lot of inflammatory shit lately. Maybe the crowd wants a break.
[03:22:50] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not going to punch a man in the face and then wonder why he called the cops on me, haha.
[03:22:46] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, I appreicate that, though this isn't a case where we would have banned you :)
[03:22:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, rules are rules and I broke 'em. I'm not trippin'.
[03:21:44] <NCommander> Positive karma on a subnet would have offset it
[03:21:38] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, its -11 karma ona subnet, or 11 downmods starting from zero
[03:21:19] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, we might just set logged in users to bypass subnet karma, I'm discussing it w/ paul.
[03:21:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll get on somewhere else and submit some shit tomorrow, maybe post if I can. If you have an autobanning mechanism, 4 downmods within 72 hours is kind of harsh.
[03:21:03] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, well, as the feature is currently coded, you won't be unbanned without intervention
[03:20:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander, don't hurt yourselves doing it. I'm not going to flip the fuck out. Pissing people off carries a price I'm well aware of :)
[03:19:52] <ciri> rofl
[03:19:51] <crutchy> lol 'spoofy'
[03:19:20] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, we're looking at your ban problems, it was autodone by the site, we're trying to figure the sanest way to rework the feature
[03:12:48] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:11:01] <crutchy> 'they got the warming of the o-hole'
[03:10:51] <crutchy> lmao
[03:10:04] <arti> Massachusetts and Louisiana cops and firefighters
[03:09:51] <Ethanol-fueled> keeping the brothers and sisters down.
[03:09:50] <arti> http://nypost.com
[03:09:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it's always some kind of "ism" -- sexism, racism,
[03:09:30] * SirFinkus gains a recruit
[03:09:06] <arti> so the word is this is her trying to help the cause
[03:08:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus arti, that's pretty tacky.
[03:08:37] <SirFinkus> I wish
[03:08:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I hope you have plenty of federal informant money to arm and train those folks.
[03:08:28] <arti> yeah, looks like the husband is involved in a madoff style scam with firefighter and other funds to the tune of $140mil
[03:08:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, creating your own proxy-army?
[03:07:53] <SirFinkus> I've had the #Isis channel running for like a week now, I'm still taking recruits
[03:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. Hahaha, greedy B**** just wanted money.
[03:07:45] <arti> tried.
[03:07:43] <arti> correct
[03:07:15] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, is that the woman who's trying to sue? Or is that a different company?
[03:06:58] <arti> btw the whole shitstorm with the reddit ceo
[03:06:26] <arti> "successful"
[03:06:12] <Ethanol-fueled> We need some Pro-Islam multiculturalism stories, with examples of successfuly integrated societies like England and Sweden.
[03:05:16] <SirFinkus> tyvm
[03:05:14] <SirFinkus> I have enough social issues
[03:05:10] <ciri> doing great here
[03:05:09] <Ethanol-fueled> how about JADE HELM?
[03:04:59] <arti> btw we need more social issues
[03:04:39] <arti> lies! it doesn't feel
[03:04:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Slashdot is sad.
[03:04:04] <SirFinkus> it never ends!
[03:04:00] <SirFinkus> lol The Other Site just posted another graphene story
[03:03:47] <arti> wonder if it tastes like tasty wheat
[03:03:26] <crutchy> i can see the woman in the red dress
[03:03:00] <crutchy> ooh. that statement looks almost pornographic
[03:02:31] <arti> perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
[03:01:49] <crutchy> totally rediculous, but about as politically incorrect as you can get away with on tv
[03:01:47] <arti> go through the epiodes with some mates, slowly working through
[03:01:25] <arti> it's pretty good
[03:01:12] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, its on my bucket list.
[03:01:02] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled would be able to appreciate the humor of Fat Pizza
[03:00:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Flanders is a kiddy-dang-diddler
[03:00:28] <crutchy> like big kev :p
[03:00:21] <crutchy> maybe i should call him a coconut
[03:00:09] <arti> hahaha
[03:00:05] <chromas> Fa-diddly-gots
[02:59:51] <crutchy> flandereses
[02:59:47] <crutchy> lol
[02:59:47] <arti> hahaha
[02:59:44] <Ethanol-fueled> HUHUHUHUHU
[02:59:35] <arti> ohsickburnbruh
[02:59:31] <arti> yeah it is, because it loses!
[02:59:21] <crutchy> arti, my last build was about AU$460, though i dunno if it could be called a gaming machine
[02:59:15] <arti> hairy says stuff like that, fgt.
[02:59:08] <arti> just imagine him speaking like flanders, it'll make it more fun
[02:59:06] <Ethanol-fueled> that's not remarkable, arti.
[02:58:35] <arti> Ethanol-fueled: I'll have you know i've built gaming machines for $500!
[02:58:27] <Ethanol-fueled> seek help, crutchy
[02:58:17] <ciri> Error: see .calc help
[02:58:17] <crutchy> .calc sqrt(sex)
[02:58:15] <Ethanol-fueled> hairyfeet has good posts about gaming, but there's too much righteous moralfaggotry there.
[02:58:11] <ciri> diego hasn't said a word for 14169 minutes :/
[02:58:11] <arti> !idle
[02:57:51] <ciri> Expression: 14168 / 60 / 24 / 7 = 1
[02:57:50] <arti> .calc 14168 / 60 / 24 / 7
[02:57:31] <crutchy> hairyfeet is too predictable, whereas i have absolutely nfi what ciri's gunna come up with :p
[02:57:29] <ciri> diego hasn't said a word for 14168 minutes :/
[02:57:28] <arti> !idle
[02:57:10] <arti> i, too, agree.
[02:57:05] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: agree.
[02:57:04] <arti> !decide agree disagree
[02:56:38] <crutchy> i have more fun trolling ciri than i do hairyfeet anyway
[02:56:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Meh, I wasn't really surprised, just wanted confirmation.
[02:55:19] <arti> begun, the upvote wars have.
[02:55:05] <arti> :D
[02:55:01] <arti> make more accounts, or have your posts upvoted
[02:54:50] <arti> here's how you do it!
[02:54:29] <Ethanol-fueled> is it really impossible to get out of?
[02:54:07] <paulej72> This is more of an automatic karma hell that is impossible to get out of
[02:53:45] <Ethanol-fueled> got it, pauley. Like fix my Tor and whatnot.
[02:53:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, the number should probably be raised to, say, seven downmods since weekend stories are often troll or idle-style stories and one user could easily get 4 downmods in 72 hours, hell, 2 hours, making a good but controversial point in a big discussion.
[02:53:22] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: you need to spreadout your trolling to other networks :). I need to figure out how to fix this, without breaking shit.
[02:51:43] <arti> -1 disagree :P
[02:51:23] <Ethanol-fueled> such is life as an inflammatory troll-shit.
[02:51:00] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, rules are rules and I repsect them. I can post from other ip, which means if I need a fix that badly I can just go to starbucks.
[02:50:40] <paulej72> your in karma hell on that ip address
[02:50:24] <paulej72> OK Ethanol-fueled thatwas what I needed. I tracked down that ipid to a very low karma.
[02:50:13] <arti> wonder if a fabulous pinocchio has an effect like that
[02:50:02] -!- takyon [takyon!~48d82d7d@bi31-970-11-641.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #Soylent
[02:49:43] <arti> yeah, those prolapses are really increasing.
[02:49:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I posted a journal logged in on dev.soylentnews.org titled "the pink menace"
[02:49:23] <arti> "now go to your room, and think about what you've said!"
[02:49:01] <crutchy> oh. i was able to post a journal as myself during the ban. not sure if that helps any
[02:48:47] <SirFinkus> yeah, that shit needs to be fixed
[02:48:25] <crutchy> hmm. /me wonders if he's still banned
[02:48:13] <Ethanol-fueled> damn, pauley, I think that's a little extreme...if you're in a heated discussion and post something controversial, it may mean that people are silenced for being just that.
[02:47:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, I didn't know about that pauley...awhile ago I had 5 comments modded to -1, for a total karma loss of 10 points.
[02:47:29] <crutchy> similar msg to e-f
[02:47:16] <crutchy> paulej72, i was banned for 3 ac posts modded spam, but even with 50 karma i couldn't post even as myself
[02:46:01] <arti> http://memedepot.com
[02:45:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, that's my IP. So fucking what. Hack me!
[02:45:42] <SirFinkus> if that happened to me after I joined, I'd leave and never come back
[02:45:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled. If it's you, consider this a chance to sit in the timeout corner. If it's someone else, this is a chance to hunt them down. If you think this is unfair, please email admin@soylentnews.org with your MD5'd IPID and SubnetID, which are "c3690fbd7b811c8b942e0408798ff439" and "03588caf9d954263e8d130b7d604b30d" and (optionally, but prefera
[02:45:39] <arti> hahaha
[02:45:28] <SirFinkus> but if I'm a new member and I make a post and 4 people disagree with me, I get banned for 72 hours?
[02:45:16] <paulej72> temporary as after 72 hours of no posing you will be unbanned
[02:45:10] * arti needs more downvote sock puppets
[02:44:39] <arti> by default or after review?
[02:44:31] <paulej72> if you karma's good enough it can pull you out of the ban
[02:44:25] <arti> really?
[02:44:21] <SirFinkus> well, that's stupid
[02:44:02] <paulej72> there is an auto troll ban the if you have 4 downmods in 72 hours on a single ipid or subnet id you can possibly be banned
[02:43:31] <SirFinkus> the ban stuff anyway
[02:43:28] <chromas> Manually disproved
[02:43:16] <SirFinkus> I thought spam mods were manually approved or something
[02:42:54] <paulej72> If you get the full error to me I can track that down easier. It should have eht IPID in the error.
[02:42:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I think I got trashed and spammed anonymously (possibly logged in with the post anon box checked) on Sunday under this IP. If I didn't, I have no idea why I was banned.
[02:41:59] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, only the I.p. I'm using now doesn't work. Or at least it didnt last night. I did manage to post logged in while not at this IP.
[02:41:40] <SirFinkus> you do need to go down a huge fucking hill to get downtown though, but there's not much that can be done about that
[02:41:37] <paulej72> we could not find any specific bans aginst you
[02:41:17] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: are you still having issues posting to the site?
[02:40:50] <arti> defeats the purpose of the roads :P
[02:40:48] * SirFinkus catches them in his mouth
[02:40:39] <SirFinkus> lots of cars not on the road
[02:40:30] * arti hucks kitkat bites at finkus
[02:40:26] <SirFinkus> the bike paths are always pretty busy
[02:40:08] <SirFinkus> my city has a pretty good bike infrastructure, it's awesome
[02:40:03] <arti> vast majority of vehicles are single user
[02:40:03] <Ethanol-fueled> true 'dat, arti.
[02:39:53] <arti> so cal*
[02:39:49] <arti> california is hosed traffic wise
[02:39:07] <arti> binary protocol (text compresses well, and quickly)."
[02:39:06] <arti> "When you feel the urge to design a complex binary file format, or a complex binary application protocol, it is generally wise to lie down until the feeling passes. If performance is what you're worried about, implementing compression on the text protocol stream either at some level below or above the application protocol will give you a cleaner and perhaps better-performing design than a
[02:39:02] <SirFinkus> it's ironic that LA would probably be one of the better places to commute on a bike (weather etc) but the city itself is so sprawling it makes it difficult
[02:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> As much trash as I talk about cyclists here, I so wish that were the case.
[02:38:40] <Ethanol-fueled> That would be nice.
[02:38:28] <SirFinkus> I wish more cities were bike and pedestrian centric
[02:37:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I know firsthand how having a local stadium shits up traffic....might as well not even go to/from work that day unless you want to spend a few hours in bumper-to-bumper
[02:37:28] <arti> id be all for it if moving people around were more efficient
[02:36:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, right...man, that would suck ass for you guys.
[02:36:49] <arti> 405 is already busy enough
[02:36:45] <Ethanol-fueled> why, arti?
[02:36:35] <arti> i hope carson never goes through
[02:36:32] <sedctl> <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. Chargers won't fucking move. The stadium they have is in a pretty bitchin place next to all kinds of malls and the trolley stop. They ain't gonna trade that for a dump like Carson.
[02:36:32] <Ethanol-fueled> s/dumb/dump/g
[02:36:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. Chargers won't fucking move. The stadium they have is in a pretty bitchin place next to all kinds of malls and the trolley stop. They ain't gonna trade that for a dumb like Carson.
[02:35:45] <SirFinkus> NFL is a non-profit too
[02:35:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, with all the money the NFL and its players and owners have, making the taxpayers pay is bullshit.
[02:35:13] <SirFinkus> not that I would in this instance, but still
[02:35:02] <Ethanol-fueled> And the best part is that the proposal for that new stadium is for the Chargers to share it with the Raiders!
[02:34:53] <SirFinkus> Fuck em then, I don't want to spend tax dollars on sports stadiums
[02:34:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Carson, to be specific. A big dump that's one large industrial zone, so south of L.A. nobody in their right mind would go.
[02:34:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, the Chargers' greedy owner is saying that the Chargers are going to move to L.A. if the taxpayers don't buy the chargers a new stadium.
[02:33:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Thift looks pretty badass.
[02:32:38] <arti> http://en.wikipedia.org
[02:32:37] * arti is reading stuff
[02:31:23] <Ethanol-fueled> wasn't trying to shit up your guys' discussion.
[02:30:38] <SirFinkus> http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com might make you feel better
[02:30:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Haahahah
[02:30:01] <SirFinkus> http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com
[02:29:51] san_diego_super_lose is now known as Ethanol-fueled
[02:29:50] <crutchy> i'll try set up my little ircd script so that i can make 2 connections to it with xchat and have the server treat both as the same nick (using a connection hash for 2nd connection)
[02:29:46] <san_diego_super_lose> exactly 20 chars.
[02:29:33] a2345678901234567890 is now known as san_diego_super_lose
[02:29:14] Ethanol-fueled is now known as a2345678901234567890
[02:27:15] <crutchy> the custom part would be in the ircd script
[02:27:11] <arti> just create another buffer with unique messages from both connections.
[02:27:01] <crutchy> i reckon i might be able to get it to work just using standard xchat
[02:26:48] <arti> and the client supports multiple connections natively (or sockets)
[02:26:39] <arti> crutchy, if you have client side scripting abilities
[02:26:25] <SirFinkus> they're in a legal and moral grey area because they force you to host content you may not want to
[02:25:53] <SirFinkus> that's the other problem with these distributed file sharing networks
[02:24:59] <SirFinkus> probably mostly kiddy porn, I don't think it's very popular
[02:24:46] <SirFinkus> and is open source
[02:24:38] <SirFinkus> interesting ideas though, freenet is still kicking I think
[02:24:31] <crutchy> if a new nick matches an existing nick+hash it connects new client as same nick
[02:24:13] <SirFinkus> all closed source too
[02:23:50] <crutchy> arti, maybe i should have a go at implementing multiple client connections using existing hexchat. not sure how to send the connection hash but maybe there's some way to sneak it in. maybe added to the nick itself. ie: /nick crutchy658dssdfdfhifhu3ihwfh
[02:23:49] <SirFinkus> like perfect dark and share
[02:23:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - From Australia: Legislation for Counter Piracy and Data Retention - http://sylnt.us - not-so-free-world
[02:23:41] <SirFinkus> along with most of the other darknet clients
[02:23:26] <SirFinkus> naw, winny has been broken forever
[02:23:23] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[02:23:18] <arti> greetings
[02:23:11] <arti> er, share
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[02:23:06] <arti> i think winny has a pretty anon way of doing communication
[02:22:51] <SirFinkus> I like p2p, it's more interesting
[02:22:31] <arti> pros and cons to both, server can facilitate everything keeping users isolated from one another
[02:22:10] <arti> would it be better to do it peer based or server?
[02:21:54] <SirFinkus> well, for a new protocol, you wouldn't use irc-style filesharing
[02:21:40] <arti> omg this rat dog and its yips
[02:21:13] <arti> CTCP
[02:21:11] <arti> the file transfer stuff is client side, ya?
[02:20:52] <arti> hence unicode is terrible to support on an ircd.
[02:20:38] <SirFinkus> I'm not sure how adding encryption exacerbates the issue
[02:20:21] <SirFinkus> provided it supports unicode
[02:20:11] <SirFinkus> maybe, but wouldn't that be a problem ircd would have anyway?
[02:19:51] <arti> depends if you're using unicode strings for processing text
[02:19:44] <crutchy> connection hash would seem easier than encrypting every message, since the hash would only need to be added as another parameter to a nick message
[02:19:16] <SirFinkus> I mean, I can encrypt a file with whatever I want in it, and sign it so that you can verify it came from me, why wouldn't I be able to do that with arbitrary unicode?
[02:19:05] <arti> for writing an ircd, maybe
[02:18:50] <arti> for that use case, no.
[02:18:27] <SirFinkus> maybe I'm missing something but I don't see how that interferes with signing and encrypting messages
[02:17:25] <crutchy> but it lets me in on 667 so i'm happy enough
[02:17:12] <crutchy> paulej72, i think so :p
[02:17:04] <arti> https://www.schneier.com
[02:16:58] <crutchy> i think irc servers handle unicode with capab flags
[02:16:53] <paulej72> maybe the new server hates you crutchy
[02:16:25] <SirFinkus> why would it be?
[02:16:02] <arti> so unicode is terrible to support though right?
[02:15:56] <SirFinkus> same model, except more efficient, because adding full sized sigs to every message on an irc channel would be a nightmare
[02:15:27] <crutchy> ah
[02:15:18] <SirFinkus> basically, I'm thinking of GPG encrypted email
[02:15:12] <crutchy> bunch of characters
[02:14:57] <crutchy> of sorts
[02:14:48] <crutchy> private key is basically a hash i guess
[02:14:31] <SirFinkus> why complicate it with connection hashes?
[02:14:18] <SirFinkus> naw, if you have the private key for a nick, you're golden
[02:13:53] <crutchy> maybe when you connect once you get a connection hash that you have to use in any subsequent connections as same nick
[02:12:27] <SirFinkus> I figure that individual messages would be fairly easy to fake, but conversations would be almost impossible
[02:11:45] <SirFinkus> append a few bytes of a hash of the message and the timestamp to each message
[02:11:16] <SirFinkus> I did have an idea for an irc like network where you could verify each message was sent by the person who was supposed to have sent it
[02:11:14] <paulej72> ns is running, but ther may be some issue that we need to track down
[02:11:08] <crutchy> same issue paulej72
[02:10:45] <crutchy> yeah i guess if you just connected without nickserv then anyone could hijack yer nick
[02:10:27] <paulej72> try connecting without logging in
[02:10:06] <arti> the nick needs to be unique though
[02:10:02] <SirFinkus> pubic keys!
[02:09:54] <crutchy> nickserv i guess
[02:09:50] <crutchy> arti, same as for each connection atm
[02:09:43] <paulej72> hrmm
[02:09:38] <SirFinkus> I'm in a few cross network channels where bots forward stuff between networks
[02:09:36] <crutchy> but would also enable server-server multiple connections for each nick
[02:09:34] <arti> how do you authenticate?
[02:09:04] <crutchy> sort of like Subsentient's nexus
[02:08:59] <SirFinkus> I get one like, once ever 6 months connected to 3 different networks
[02:08:55] <crutchy> arti, and each nick should have ability to have multiple connections
[02:08:41] <arti> :|
[02:08:36] <SirFinkus> anyway, it's been a while since I've seen a netsplit, are they really such a big deal?
[02:08:28] <arti> if i wrote an ircd i'd have it support multiple protocols
[02:07:56] <SirFinkus> so it wasn't designed to have multiple servers hosting the same networks
[02:07:46] <crutchy> lol
[02:07:42] <arti> please insert more soylent bux to continue.
[02:07:34] <SirFinkus> instead of having monolitic networks with a bunch of channels
[02:07:33] <arti> you've been defeated.
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Connected. Now logging in...
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Connecting to irc-dev.soylentnews.org (72.14.184.41) port 6697...
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Looking up irc-dev.soylentnews.org
[02:07:11] <SirFinkus> well, I think when IRC was written, the idea was that there would be more servers
[02:06:49] <arti> "i'm suffering connectivity issues with a single server, multiple exist in the network, connecting to other servers in the network is totally a hack"
[02:06:29] <crutchy> problem is it seems irc is a big ship to steer, so any changes to the protocol would be met with massive resistance
[02:06:08] <paulej72> crutchy: just tested ssl on irc-dev and it was fine for me.
[02:05:56] <ciri> you talking to me?
[02:05:55] <arti> how is it a hack?
[02:05:40] <SirFinkus> iirc, the whole multiple servers thing is kind of a hack anyway
[02:05:10] <SirFinkus> irc is so old, I'm sure such a thing has been developed if it's practical
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[02:04:53] <crutchy> prolly only for that client i guess. everyone else would see 2 nicks
[02:04:30] * crutchy wonders if a client could be developed to connect to multiple irc servers but present as a single nick
[02:04:15] <SirFinkus> I could be utterly full of shit though
[02:04:00] <SirFinkus> I don't really see the advantage of using it over irc though for botnet control
[02:03:46] <arti> cool for 20-40k nodes
[02:03:35] <arti> the issue with waste was scaling as well
[02:03:21] <arti> irc only scales up so high
[02:02:51] <SirFinkus> since with waste you need to poke holes in firewalls and such
[02:02:32] <SirFinkus> wouldn't be shocked, although IRC probably would be better for that
[02:02:03] <arti> iirc a botnet made use of waste protocol
[02:02:03] <SirFinkus> as far as usage goes
[02:01:46] <SirFinkus> but it is similar in some ways
[02:01:32] <arti> the way to get around splits is to connect via multiple servers
[02:01:30] <SirFinkus> obviously
[02:01:29] <crutchy> though ability to just connect to 2 irc servers in the same network simultaneously would prolly be good enough
[02:01:07] <arti> waste isn't irc
[01:59:45] <SirFinkus> although it's more filesharringish
[01:59:43] <crutchy> guess that's why they called it waste :p
[01:59:36] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:59:35] <crutchy> prolly a bit wasteful
[01:59:16] <crutchy> p2p irc seems like a good idea
[01:59:05] <crutchy> cool
[01:58:52] <SirFinkus> I think one was called waste or something
[01:58:43] <SirFinkus> there are a few p2p implementations of stuff like that
[01:58:12] <SirFinkus> because otherwise I can think of about a million
[01:58:07] <crutchy> to prevent netsplits
[01:57:38] <SirFinkus> for chatroom type stuff?
[01:57:03] <crutchy> is there a protocol like irc where clients can connect to multiple servers simultaneously so that if one server goes down there is no interruption to the client?
[01:52:10] <crutchy> i need moar coffee
[01:49:13] <SirFinkus> nsfw, in case you haven't guessed by the url
[01:49:03] <SirFinkus> http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com
[01:49:02] <SirFinkus> I found this hilarious after all
[01:48:57] <SirFinkus> I doubt it
[01:48:40] <crutchy> you just got too many brain cells clogging your funny pipes
[01:48:10] * SirFinkus actually agrees with ciri
[01:47:58] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[01:47:57] <crutchy> lol
[01:47:44] <exec> 03[2015-03-27 23:04:14] # <ciri> chromas: Yo mama is maul smelly else farts xlefay robot noses.
[01:47:42] <crutchy> ~last nick=ciri channel=# message=yo mama
[01:47:29] <exec> 03[2015-03-29 00:29:20] # <ciri> exec: You should feel bad. I called them chocolate abortions. Some lama big special sauce. Your mom is a corruption of government.
[01:47:27] <crutchy> ~last nick=ciri channel=# message=mom
[01:46:29] <exec> 03[2015-03-28 18:29:20] # <ciri> exec: Suspiciously blows a spoon of coffee.
[01:46:27] <crutchy> ~last nick=ciri channel=# message=spoon
[01:42:59] <SirFinkus> and with lunch
[01:42:54] <SirFinkus> noon is the first socially acceptable time to have a beer, not hard liquor though
[01:42:48] <crutchy> i'm putting a memo together to pitch releasing the work wiki app as foss
[01:42:35] <SirFinkus> and no
[01:42:33] <SirFinkus> nearly 7 here
[01:41:51] <arti> nah, that's plenty of reason
[01:41:40] <crutchy> dammit my weekend is already nearly over :(
[01:41:28] <crutchy> is 1pm too early to drink?
[01:39:21] * SirFinkus begins the drinking process
[01:30:42] <crutchy> but they need moar vehicle guns
[01:30:03] <crutchy> hmm. or i guess that's pretty much what mad max was
[01:29:51] <crutchy> they should make a movie out of the interstate '82 game
[01:29:24] <arti> looks like rage
[01:28:56] <SirFinkus> I read something about it
[01:28:53] <SirFinkus> looks like there is some cgi, but all the cars and shit are real
[01:27:52] <crutchy> before mel gibson turned ghey
[01:27:45] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[01:27:41] <Bender> karma - mad_max: 1
[01:27:41] <crutchy> mad_max++
[01:27:26] <SirFinkus> Mad Max
[01:27:18] <crutchy> a new nightrider?
[01:26:54] <SirFinkus> what was it called again? it's a remake
[01:26:46] <crutchy> but only cos daft punk made it so
[01:26:41] <SirFinkus> oh, the new car movie coming out is all practical effects I've heard
[01:26:33] <crutchy> tron legacy was ok
[01:26:19] * arti likes the atmosphere
[01:25:55] <crutchy> its prolly like not seeing the original tron, which i still live in blasphemy for not seeing yet
[01:25:52] <arti> it's pretty cool
[01:25:17] <crutchy> guess i prolly should one day
[01:25:09] * crutchy has never seen bladerunner
[01:24:07] <SirFinkus> http://stalker.wikia.com
[01:23:59] <arti> btw, the blade runner link is full of awesome photos, thanks for sharing.
[01:23:38] <arti> has the link title bot been silenced?
[01:23:22] <arti> http://fallout.wikia.com
[01:23:08] <crutchy> could have blocked the jedi mind tricks
[01:23:06] <SirFinkus> or vodka
[01:23:00] <arti> just use some rad-x
[01:22:58] <crutchy> didn't they have al foil in the future?
[01:22:51] <SirFinkus> or any other bullshit
[01:22:44] <SirFinkus> too much radiation inside the field for creatures to survive
[01:22:40] <arti> also known as the solicitors bain
[01:22:23] <SirFinkus> that shit's easy to handwave though crutchy
[01:22:22] <arti> sirfinkus, i think that's the dark side's force blast thing
[01:22:08] <arti> intergalatic ip
[01:21:56] <arti> maybe it was licensed
[01:21:53] <SirFinkus> I prefer the idea of wielding a barely contained electrical arc
[01:21:51] <crutchy> they were awesome
[01:21:37] <crutchy> i don't get why the stormtroopers never used the same force fields as the robots that roll around before they stop and start shooting
[01:21:19] <SirFinkus> suppose that's an interpretation though
[01:21:12] <SirFinkus> the lightsabers in the new films based on the trailers are better than those 3 recent movies, but they went more for "fire" than "electricity"
[01:20:40] <arti> great name for your game btw
[01:20:33] <crutchy> so uncivilized
[01:20:31] <arti> "whelp."
[01:20:25] <arti> supposed to be amazing technology for movies and it was never used again after that
[01:20:13] <arti> yeah like 2002?
[01:20:08] <crutchy> there was a final fantasy film that i really liked. the one with the ghost monster thingys
[01:20:01] <arti> because the storm troopers blasts float slower than a beam would
[01:19:45] <arti> maybe its plasma
[01:19:28] <SirFinkus> now they're boring laser beams
[01:19:18] <SirFinkus> unstable, like an arc of electricity
[01:19:07] <arti> "found, the files are"
[01:19:01] <arti> wonder if there's a desktop toy yoda
[01:19:00] <SirFinkus> like their power was barely being contained
[01:18:58] <crutchy> alcohol might have helped. if i had've realised in advance i would have had a shot beforehand
[01:18:45] <arti> more cg yoda
[01:18:44] <SirFinkus> the old ones were so flickery and seemed so powerful
[01:18:34] <SirFinkus> tos lightsabers are much better
[01:18:26] <SirFinkus> oh, and they need to go back to the manually drawn lightsabers
[01:18:20] <arti> sure it wasn't all the alcohol flowing through your veins?
[01:17:59] <crutchy> i made the mistake of seeing dark side of the moon at the cinema. i still remember the eye strain from the frame skipping or whetever the hell was going on in that movie
[01:17:49] <arti> i'm curious what starwars will be like
[01:17:47] <SirFinkus> lots of practical effects, use of CGI when shit is impossible
[01:17:25] <arti> LOTR:HOBBITS the soap
[01:17:23] <SirFinkus> actually, shockingly, the new star trek movies are pretty good for proper use of CGI
[01:17:05] <SirFinkus> I'd still like to see the 48fps version
[01:17:02] <arti> lol, transformers
[01:16:52] <crutchy> because they gotta show up michael bay somehow
[01:16:39] <arti> because magic
[01:16:31] <SirFinkus> they have this weird hdr bloomy shit in every scene
[01:16:28] <arti> it's by a fan that cuts out most of the extra crap
[01:16:18] <SirFinkus> especially the last one
[01:16:12] * arti will dig up an edit
[01:16:10] <SirFinkus> and the lighting in the hobbit SUCKS
[01:16:06] <crutchy> still haven't seen the nasty hobbitses
[01:15:50] <arti> nuh uh, hobbit was REEEAAALZ
[01:15:49] <SirFinkus> and the fucking hobbit
[01:15:42] <SirFinkus> the later ones certainly not
[01:15:34] <arti> sounds like dragon tongue chants
[01:15:33] <SirFinkus> maybe
[01:15:24] <arti> FOTR
[01:15:21] <arti> i think the last movie to really do that well was LOTR right?
[01:15:11] <SirFinkus> they should use models as much as they can, and supplement with CGI only when they have to
[01:14:59] <crutchy> that ruined it for me
[01:14:57] <arti> also, hill valley
[01:14:50] <crutchy> and why the hell did they turn ripley into a whiny nerd?
[01:14:46] <arti> 2015 man, flying cars and offworld colonies
[01:14:28] <SirFinkus> a pity they don't really do this much anymore
[01:14:14] <crutchy> fuck natiri or whatever her name is
[01:14:12] <SirFinkus> speaking of http://io9.com
[01:13:50] <crutchy> that helicopter pilot chick in avatar is hot
[01:13:47] <SirFinkus> practical effects nearly always look better
[01:13:31] <SirFinkus> mostly practical, cgi wasn't quite a huge thing yet
[01:13:20] <arti> yeah, they do. lighting++
[01:13:12] <arti> ARRRRRRRggguglr---
[01:13:07] <SirFinkus> also, the special effects in Jurassic park still stand up pretty well
[01:12:58] <crutchy> (while he's still screaming)
[01:12:39] <crutchy> don't see many movies where the creature/alien/dinosaur eats the guy's face off
[01:12:36] <SirFinkus> avatar was shit
[01:12:05] <crutchy> yeah that bit was awesome
[01:11:55] <arti> clever girl
[01:11:19] <crutchy> then they fucked it up in lost world by reducing them to clumsy sniveling retards
[01:10:44] <crutchy> those damn velociraptors scared the shit outta me as a kid
[01:10:18] <ciri> lol damn!
[01:10:17] <crutchy> lol
[01:09:59] <arti> just sit closer
[01:09:47] <arti> ^- jurassic park related
[01:09:34] <crutchy> good one for big picture and sound. i got a decent sound system but only a 32 inch telly
[01:09:33] <arti> http://giphy.com
[01:09:08] <crutchy> avatar was a pretty cool movie
[01:08:57] <arti> i know this!
[01:08:52] <crutchy> i was really hoping to see the spinning 3D computer interface thingy
[01:08:47] <arti> so how about avatar guyz
[01:08:41] <arti> mmm formula
[01:08:26] <crutchy> ah yeah i guess. for a movie anyway
[01:08:18] <SirFinkus> not much else really matters
[01:08:15] <crutchy> i thought it missed a lot of the technical details
[01:08:12] <SirFinkus> "theme park, dinosaurs, dinosaurs escape"
[01:08:01] <SirFinkus> it hit the only important parts anyway
[01:07:50] <crutchy> unfortunately i read the lost world before the movie came out, which kinda wrecked it
[01:07:41] <arti> i care about beef content.
[01:07:34] <crutchy> thankfully i saw the movie before reading the book
[01:07:29] <SirFinkus> and I care very little about artistic integrity when it comes to chrichton novels
[01:07:23] <crutchy> just a shitty adaptation
[01:07:13] <crutchy> wasn't a bad movie on its own
[01:07:04] <SirFinkus> the movie was still great fun though
[01:06:50] <crutchy> jurassic park movie was a terrible adaptation of his book
[01:05:44] <SirFinkus> yes
[01:05:09] <crutchy> not supernatural shit
[01:04:50] <crutchy> he was more into technothrillers
[01:04:37] <crutchy> would never have picked that theme as crichton tbh
[01:04:05] <crutchy> about nightmares manifesting?
[01:03:54] <crutchy> oh yeah i think i seen the movie
[01:03:32] <SirFinkus> there was a shitty movie too
[01:03:30] <crutchy> his last (incomplete) book
[01:03:20] <crutchy> that was pretty interesting
[01:03:18] <SirFinkus> nope
[01:03:14] <crutchy> have you read micro?
[01:03:14] <SirFinkus> save yourself the effort
[01:03:06] <crutchy> haven't read that one
[01:03:03] <SirFinkus> jesus christ
[01:02:58] <SirFinkus> sphere
[01:02:55] <SirFinkus> there was that other stupid fucking book he wrote
[01:02:46] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[01:02:46] <crutchy> lol yeah was about to do that
[01:02:35] <SirFinkus> *was
[01:02:11] <SirFinkus> it was basically the andromeda strain with grey goo
[01:02:07] <crutchy> SirFinkus, for sure, but michael crichton is like the oprah of tecchnological issues
[01:02:00] <paulej72> one of the labs at work does research on graphine
[01:01:37] <crutchy> i was under the (possibly false) impression that its something nanotube related
[01:01:32] <SirFinkus> grey goo has been a science fiction trope forever
[01:01:26] <paulej72> that too
[01:01:15] <SirFinkus> what about graphene though?
[01:01:03] <paulej72> SirFinkus: the new vaccine is called death. It is 100% effective aginst cancer casued by graphine
[01:01:01] <crutchy> good from the point of view that it raised the issue though
[01:00:39] <crutchy> yeah not my favourite
[01:00:30] <SirFinkus> that was a stupid fucking book
[01:00:18] <crutchy> omg michael crichton was right!
[01:00:10] <SirFinkus> luckily, I hear they're testing a new vaccine
[01:00:03] <crutchy> all those little nanotubes gunna seep through the pores in our skin and form grey goo in our blood vessels
[01:00:02] <SirFinkus> insta-cancer if you breathe it
[00:59:50] <paulej72> crutchy: people are worried that it might be
[00:59:47] <SirFinkus> actually, I've heard it fucks your lungs up pretty badly
[00:58:50] <crutchy> hmm. hopefully its not the new asbestos
[00:58:22] <crutchy> is graphene the new teflon?
[00:26:34] <SirFinkus> append , 0 latency
[00:25:25] <SirFinkus> New Graphene Routers Transparently Provide Universal IPv6 Support
[00:24:49] <SirFinkus> Neat
[00:24:32] <NCommander> The site will support IPv6 with the next upgrade \o/
[00:24:25] <NCommander> Boom :)
[00:24:23] <NCommander> 4 files changed, 214 insertions(+), 72 deletions(-)
[00:24:23] <NCommander> [master 3aa19cc] Handle IPv6 Addresses
[00:15:57] <SirFinkus> that one needs a dumb pun
[00:15:39] <SirFinkus> Graphene "Lightsabers" Sell Out in Hours: Hottest New Christmas Toy?
[00:12:35] <SirFinkus> Terrorists Seeking Graphene Bullets Deemed "Highly Effective" by Top Military Officials
[00:10:32] <SirFinkus> I'd be a shitty editor
[00:10:21] <SirFinkus> *Begins
[00:10:09] <SirFinkus> Graphene Based Anti-Cancer Vaccine Enters Human Clinical Trials
[00:09:31] <SirFinkus> "Perpetual Motion Machine Built" Claim Graphene Researchers
[00:08:47] <SirFinkus> Revolutionary Graphene Lubricant Eliminates Friction
[00:08:17] <SirFinkus> Graphene Insulation Allows Researchers to Reach Absolute Zero
[00:07:22] <SirFinkus> Could Graphene be the Secret to Time Travel?
[00:06:20] <SirFinkus> Revolutionary Graphene Battery Powered Electric Car Can Travel 3000 Miles Before Requiring a Recharge
[00:05:12] <SirFinkus> Inexpensive Self-Sustaining Graphene Fusion Reactors Coming Soon
[00:03:55] <SirFinkus> Graphene Space Elevators Could Exceed the Speed of Light
[00:03:30] <SirFinkus> Graphene Turns Lead to Gold and Grants Immortality