#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-10

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[00:00:10] <paulej72> plus gold is the new black
[00:00:26] <nick> the last thing apple is planning on is during their product launches going "look at all the ports this thing has, all the cables you could have coming out of it on your desk!"
[00:00:39] <nick> im actually surprised about this whole gold thing
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[00:01:00] <nick> for a company that values design, i thought they would be above that
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[00:02:02] <nick> maybe it's just me but gold 'bling' is not stylish... or it's mainly for the chinese and indian markets
[00:02:33] <paulej72> they based it on the popularity of the phone
[00:02:34] <nick> apple gets a slice of the action rather than these other companies gold plating iphones and such after-market
[00:03:04] <paulej72> if there is any real gold in the color I would be amazed.
[00:03:26] <BadCoderFinger> nick: Err, bling is very big in California with all the wannabes.
[00:03:40] <BadCoderFinger> (Also, everything probably is my fault)
[00:04:18] <nick> well, i dont know about the phones
[00:04:21] <paulej72> nope, BadCoderFinger, it is alsways Bytram’s falut as the cheif QA tester
[00:04:26] <nick> but the watch is apparently 'solid gold'
[00:04:41] <nick> or at least the 10k-17k versions will be real gold in some way
[00:04:42] <paulej72> the watch is definitly all about the bling
[00:06:07] <BadCoderFinger> Genuine Real Gold(like substance)!
[00:06:15] <nick> heh
[00:06:16] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:06:17] <chromas> ^ 03**Austin Powers, Goldmember** Beyonce - Goldmember. HQ - YouTube
[00:06:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Republicans File Act That Would Wipe out Net Neutrality - http://sylnt.us - finest-laws-that-money-can-buy
[00:06:59] <paulej72> kill it with fire
[00:07:42] <BadCoderFinger> Republicans are fighting net neutrality? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
[00:08:07] <BadCoderFinger> It's doomed to failure anyway, what with the chairman of the FCC being a cable shill.
[00:10:05] <nick> im still waiting on what the ruling actually says
[00:10:20] <nick> rather than just assuming it's all roses because it says 'net neutrality' in the title
[00:10:46] * SirFinkus is sure they found some way to fuck us
[00:10:50] <BadCoderFinger> There's that, so. What's with all the secrecy?
[00:11:30] <nick> i know the idea is it's a simple change, but when has a government or regulatory body, of any stripe ever gone for the simple solution?
[00:11:38] <SirFinkus> based on what I've read/heard that kind of thing is normal for FCC stuff
[00:12:05] <paulej72> fcc has always been scecretive like this. Just the way things work
[00:12:21] <paulej72> ninja’d
[00:12:25] <nick> thats a great bit too, "they're always secretive like this, but we're sure it's all exactly what we wanted!"
[00:12:40] <nick> excuse me for being cynical about all this
[00:12:59] <SirFinkus> I'm optimistic because the ISPs seem really upset about it
[00:13:00] * BadCoderFinger joins the cynical camp.
[00:13:01] <nick> but really i think it's a bit early to be declaring victory on this
[00:13:03] <paulej72> no, but at least title ii has a better chance of doing the job than title 1
[00:13:56] <nick> it has potential, but i'm waiting to read the actual text
[00:14:02] <SirFinkus> even if it is a win, they'll just keep trying to fuck us anyway, there's way too much money stacked against it
[00:14:31] <BadCoderFinger> United Corporations of America.
[00:14:47] <nick> https://www.eff.org
[00:14:49] <chromas> ^ 03Dear FCC: Rethink The Vague "General Conduct" Rule | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[00:15:34] <nick> i found that quite interesting, after the discussion we had on the site, where people said if there was something fishy the EFF would have said something
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[00:22:11] <nick> also the FCC apparently even said themselves it's Title II "with some caveats"
[00:23:00] <BadCoderFinger> Without details of either, that's pretty meaningless for us.
[00:23:19] <nick> thats exactly my point
[00:23:35] <nick> which is why it's frustrating when so many people do the victory dance so early on with this
[00:25:38] <BadCoderFinger> I have to agree.
[00:27:21] <nick> https://www.techdirt.com
[00:27:22] <chromas> ^ 03FCC Approval Of Zero Rating Shows Companies Can Still Violate Neutrality Under New Rules, They Just Have To Be More Clever About It | Techdirt
[00:28:31] <BadCoderFinger> Heh! Like we had any doubt!
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[01:03:44] <SpallsHurgenson> anyone know where I can download a faster internet connection?
[01:16:01] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently not :)
[01:16:29] <BadCoderFinger> In the US? That's not on offer.
[01:16:39] <BadCoderFinger> You'll eat your 56kbit and like it.
[01:19:34] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, maybe some better compression then? I got a 1GB file; can you compress it dow to 20kb first?
[01:19:55] <BadCoderFinger> "truncate" might do it...
[01:21:50] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I could use some more RAM; got any more software that could help with that? I got 32MB and need 4GB :)
[01:22:05] <BadCoderFinger> QEMM's memory compressor?
[01:23:10] <SpallsHurgenson> cool. Now to make my CPU faster; this old 486/33 needs some charging up; got anyting that will make it run like an i7/quad?
[01:23:59] <BadCoderFinger> Replace your oscillator with something much faster. Your chip will suffer from electromigration, but for about 20 seconds you can really compute pi.
[01:24:19] <BadCoderFinger> After that, you'll want to move to a well ventilated area.
[01:24:34] <BadCoderFinger> And possibly call the fire department.
[01:24:44] <SpallsHurgenson> that's hardware! Dontcha got something where I can just click install.exe? :)
[01:25:40] <Hedonismbot> here you go: freenudezandmemoryupgrades.avi.jpg.exe.com.com.com
[01:27:09] <SpallsHurgenson> you can't fool me; that file is bigger than 64kb so it can't be a .com file!
[01:27:48] <Hedonismbot> don't give me that. click it! click it, I tell ya!
[01:28:37] <SpallsHurgenson> no way. Maybe if it was a nice safe .scr
[01:30:34] <BadCoderFinger> clickthemonkey.scr
[01:31:01] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, monkey! <click click click>
[01:31:06] <SpallsHurgenson> hey look, a pop-up!
[01:33:10] <Hedonismbot> [x] here's the close button
[01:33:16] <Hedonismbot> hah, you can't get it while it moves!
[01:33:20] <Hedonismbot> teehee!
[01:33:33] * Hedonismbot moves it one last time
[01:33:43] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, tricksy! look, now its asking for my credit card number. that seems reasonable
[01:37:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Higgs Decay and Dark Matter - http://sylnt.us - dark-matter,-growing-in-many-bathrooms
[01:50:32] * SpallsHurgenson writes a letter to the internet. I mean, it transports our mail every day, but does anyone ever send IT any mail?
[01:54:21] <BadCoderFinger> They do at work. Complaints, mostly.
[01:56:19] <SpallsHurgenson> well, that's because they keep us from downloading vital business applications like freenudezandmemoryupgrades.avi.jpg.exe.com.com.com
[01:57:15] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[01:57:16] <chromas> ^ 03Break of Reality - Lateralus (Covers Album) - YouTube
[01:58:05] <paulej72> dear internet, you are teh sukz
[01:59:15] <SpallsHurgenson> poor internet, it don't get no respect
[02:06:43] <BadCoderFinger> The internet embraces your grammar.
[02:08:02] <SpallsHurgenson> I also am spelink prety gud
[02:08:48] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:18:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't want to alarm anybody but I think this channel is suffering from a severe case of funk deficiency.
[02:19:09] <SpallsHurgenson> quick, get me 20ccs of Parliament-Funkadelic!
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[02:22:16] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.interstate76.com
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[02:27:36] <SpallsHurgenson> couldn't handle the funk
[02:27:51] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:31:22] <SpallsHurgenson> sure, you laugh now... but do not underestimate the funk!
[02:33:53] <SpallsHurgenson> ever notice that there is very little difference between funk and porn-movie soundtracks? :)
[02:37:27] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... no, me neither.
[02:39:54] <BadCoderFinger> I'm beginning to see why you want a faster internet connection.
[02:41:21] <SpallsHurgenson> yay!
[02:43:45] <SpallsHurgenson> There are portions of the internet that archive.org won't touch. It's up to me to take up the slack :)
[02:44:28] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:48:26] <SpallsHurgenson> https://web.archive.org how things have changed :)
[02:48:27] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[02:50:00] <chromas> ah look, there's where you can see the first utf-8 support announcement months before we had it again :D
[02:50:45] <BadCoderFinger> Aww!
[02:54:03] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, the only irc bot that doesn't come back up after a reboot is diego (PieSpy - stick chart thing) - and that's just because I've not got around to doing a cron scirpt for it.
[02:54:16] <juggs> Hardly critical
[02:54:46] <juggs> mrcoolbp, looks like webchat is up, but fails connect to server. Will look into that
[02:57:35] <BadCoderFinger> All the cool kids use irssi!
[02:57:56] <juggs> If you say so
[03:09:49] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, I'm not cool :(
[03:10:16] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:11:07] <chromas> Still could be, so long as you'ren't a kid at the same time
[03:11:29] <SpallsHurgenson> how can I tell if I'm a kid or not?
[03:11:29] <ciri> don't ask me!
[03:12:15] <chromas> check if you're cool but don't use irssi. If true, then you're not
[03:12:23] <chromas> logic++
[03:12:23] <Bender> karma - logic: 1
[03:12:36] <SpallsHurgenson> you make my brain asplode!
[03:13:12] <juggs> missed a check for "if kid... then..."
[03:13:31] <BadCoderFinger> Corner case!
[03:15:41] <juggs> blech, webchat daemon soils its own directory with endless number of log files. /me moves said things to ..../oldlogs
[03:16:44] <BadCoderFinger> Alright guys, time to get some sleep and recover from losing an hour. Night!
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[03:17:20] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I use a time machine
[03:20:26] <juggs> damn time lords
[03:27:50] <SpallsHurgenson> I want my own theme song
[03:28:21] <chromas> Spalls' Theme
[03:28:24] <chromas> .flac
[03:29:02] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, it's not real music unless it's in .s3m :)
[03:37:15] <chromas> 16 tracks? 3 tracks ought to be enough for anybody
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[04:08:52] <juggs> moo
[04:08:59] <SoyCow3033> baa
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[04:09:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Free-Range Parents Found Responsible For “Unsubstantiated” Child Neglect - http://sylnt.us - protection-or-interference?
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[04:10:10] <FloPipe> moo
[04:10:15] <juggs> bar
[04:13:13] <juggs> Well it connects now, but that mask is wrong :/
[04:15:46] <chromas> who's it?
[04:15:50] <chromas> juggsbot?
[04:18:53] <swiss> and then i order a f/f, then read the spec, and realize i need a null modem
[04:18:56] <swiss> er
[04:19:00] <swiss> tfw i order a m/f serial cable and i need f/f
[04:19:03] <swiss> and then i order a f/f, then read the spec, and realize i need a null modem
[04:19:05] <swiss> QQ
[04:26:46] <juggs> chromas, no - that is a WebIRC login from the site. It didn't work at all since the maint. It works now but is presented as ~blah@xs508-09.members.linode.com (the irc server itself) rather than ~blah@garbage.isp.your.real.net.provider. In a way it gives more privacy in channel as all WebIRC users have cover of just being SoyCow@carbon but it's not eplicating what we used to have - which makes chan management easier without having to hit server logs.
[04:27:18] <juggs> replicating*
[04:28:37] <chromas> ~SoyCow12345@Anonymous.Cow.ard
[04:29:04] <juggs> My own doing as I changed some configs to use loopback addresses rather than external ips to get the bastard to stand up at all.
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[04:32:32] <juggs> atheme-iris (Web IRC) seems to have an aversion to IPv6 since the maintenance
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[04:33:54] <juggs> sorry - down for urgent care :D
[04:42:12] <juggs> swiss, just make your own cables if you are doing rs232. Box of connectors (9 and 25 pin M and F), spool of cable, a soldering iron, flux, solder - do it on site to suit. I guess that doesn't fly in your environment. Reminds me, I must setup a webshop selling all these variants in various lengths and get sec clearance :D
[04:44:38] <juggs> It's not even hard to remember which lines go where when hardware flow control is in operation.
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[05:08:58] <juggs> chromas, anyone want to hit up WebIRC from the SN site please?
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[05:17:01] <juggs> That ~octal@ is a concern
[05:17:27] <swiss> juggs: but they're so cheap
[05:17:56] <swiss> also, i don't use this at work
[05:19:17] <juggs> They become not so cheap if you have to order three times to get the right cable
[05:29:24] <swiss> lol
[05:29:31] <swiss> still $15
[05:32:35] <juggs> aye - always the question of whether you are spending your own $ or the company's.
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[05:36:36] <swiss> mine, this is for the TV at my house
[05:40:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Side Channel Attacks, and the Chip Whisperer - http://sylnt.us - editor-whisperer
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[06:27:45] <juggs> ffs
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[06:28:37] <chromas> I got a "couldn't connect" error
[06:29:31] <chromas> "Couldn't connect to remote server." I have js enabled and everything
[06:31:28] <chromas> hm, without proxy I get 502 bad gateway
[06:34:18] <juggs> chromas try now
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[06:34:51] <PowerCow9001> juggs++
[06:34:51] <Bender> karma - juggs: 61
[06:35:01] <juggs> fuck me - Bender mask
[06:35:07] <PowerCow9001> Wait, I'm not a bot
[06:35:15] <PowerCow9001> or…am I?
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[06:39:46] <crutchy> hehe. i just got to call someone a communist
[06:40:28] <crutchy> that republican article brought the extreme lefties out of the woodwork. such easy targets
[06:42:07] <crutchy> wtf is going on with bender's hostmask?
[06:42:24] <chromas> Calling someone a communist? Sounds like a jerb for a reperblican
[06:42:52] <crutchy> nah. i'm a libertarian so i have a get out of jail card
[06:42:56] <juggs> I guess WebIRC (atheme-iris) is down for now, there's some pain in the ass regression around IPv6 that we use internally. Prolly just needs a recompile, but I'm tired out and am making craters for myself more than fixing anything. So I'm off.
[06:43:36] <chromas> ~delegate-to crutchy, webirc
[06:43:38] <juggs> 502 for now
[06:44:29] <crutchy> haven't really come across any neocons to pick on here. tmb is prolly closest but for whatever reason we haven't debated military intervention much
[06:44:38] <chromas> it's okay; we don't want any o' them web commies comin' in 'ere an' 'reckin' up the place anyhows
[06:44:59] <crutchy> ~isup chat.soylentnews.org
[06:45:00] <exec> 03chat.soylentnews.org: HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway
[06:45:29] * chromas crowns crutchy irc adjutant
[06:45:50] * crutchy likes chaos and madness'
[06:45:53] <juggs> gawd - we'll have a php control panel by the morning
[06:46:09] <juggs> and some buckets
[06:46:10] <crutchy> free ops for all!
[06:46:59] <crutchy> nah i been focusing on a work project mostly lately
[06:47:10] <crutchy> so SN is reasonably safe
[06:47:23] <crutchy> unless you paint it pink
[06:47:54] <crutchy> and make it look like a pony
[06:48:07] <crutchy> with shiny glittery stuff
[06:48:14] * juggs goes 90 degrees - gotta fall over some time
[06:48:37] <crutchy> ~time juggs
[06:48:38] <exec> Tuesday, 10 March 2015 @ 6:48 am GMT - London, UK
[06:48:58] <ar> ~time
[06:48:59] <exec> Tuesday, 10 March 2015 @ 7:48 am GMT+1 - Warsaw, Poland
[06:49:56] <chromas> ~time world
[06:49:58] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 6:49 am
[06:50:41] <crutchy> wonder if there's any google time easter eggs
[06:52:35] <chromas> ~time bomb
[06:52:36] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 6:52 am
[06:52:59] <chromas> ~time spinach bean thyme
[06:53:01] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 6:53 am
[06:53:56] <ar> ~time peanut butter jelly
[06:53:58] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 6:53 am
[06:57:48] <crutchy> ~time cop
[06:57:50] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 6:57 am
[06:59:05] <crutchy> ~queue
[06:59:08] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 17 - http://sylnt.us
[06:59:18] <crutchy> vegemite++
[06:59:18] <Bender> karma - vegemite: 5
[06:59:27] <crutchy> 3
[06:59:28] <ciri> 4
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[06:59:36] <ciri> 9
[06:59:38] <ciri> 10!
[07:00:43] <JamesNZ> ciri-- # Yes yes dear, we know you can count to 10.
[07:00:43] <Bender> karma - ciri: -32
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[07:21:58] <swiss> 3
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[07:22:10] <ciri> 10!
[07:22:11] <swiss> ciri++ # best annoying features
[07:22:11] <Bender> karma - ciri: -31
[07:41:49] <Subsentient> http://imgur.com
[07:41:50] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03In store reviews - Imgur
[08:12:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - USB and Dead-Drops - http://sylnt.us - who-knows-what-you-might-catch
[09:23:22] <arti> Subsentient: lol
[09:32:11] <ar> http://kukuruku.co
[09:32:12] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03USB Killer
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[09:43:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fusion, by Lockheed, Within 10 years - http://sylnt.us - whooooosh
[09:59:39] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[09:59:39] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Etrill - Сирень #1 - YouTube
[10:08:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:08:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1168
[10:13:01] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:13:02] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Wonderful Ambient & Chill-Hop Mix 2015 - Vol 1 - YouTube
[10:16:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> too early for crazy pop
[10:17:58] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:59] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03SN comment by bob_super (1357)
[10:18:04] <crutchy> had to laugh at this one
[10:22:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> too early for self-hating US-trolls as well.
[10:27:29] <crutchy> only tuesday morning there eh
[10:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, and barely
[10:28:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~time
[10:28:23] <exec> Tuesday, 10 March 2015 @ 5:28 am CDT - Stratford, OK, USA
[10:28:44] <crutchy> almost bed time here. might see if i can get a bit more coding done
[10:29:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> more laundry for me today
[10:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have twats in oz who were born there and lived there all their lives and still shit talk it every chance they get like we got here?
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[10:38:46] <crutchy> twats is a global phenomenon
[10:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good, just so long as everyone gotta live with em.
[10:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> over here we call em democrats
[10:39:43] <crutchy> lol
[10:39:55] <crutchy> unfortunately neocons are just as bad
[10:40:12] <crutchy> the welfare just goes to different people
[10:40:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> they got their down sides but at least they root for the home team
[10:40:48] <crutchy> patriotism is overrated
[10:41:21] <crutchy> the whole idea of nationality is a bit stupid actually
[10:41:25] <crutchy> but meh
[10:41:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> not talking patriotism, talking anti-patriots. ones what assume their nation is in the wrong on everything.
[10:41:56] <crutchy> 'their nation' is open to interpretation
[10:42:06] <crutchy> most people hate their governments
[10:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is as it should be
[10:42:36] <crutchy> a nation is represented by its government
[10:42:45] <crutchy> without government, you gots no nation
[10:42:58] <crutchy> (hence why its a bit stupid)
[10:44:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're like fucking teenagers who are certain daddy is wrong about everything but know exactly jack and shit themselves.
[10:44:51] <crutchy> i never get why american kids go off to find in some towelhead country they may never have even heard of to fight for some politician's multinational campaign donors that don't give a shit about them or the country they think they're fighting for :/
[10:45:04] <crutchy> s/find/fight/
[10:45:04] <sedctl> <crutchy> i never get why american kids go off to fight in some towelhead country they may never have even heard of to fight for some politician's multinational campaign donors that don't give a shit about them or the country they think they're fighting for :/
[10:45:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> want a proper answer?
[10:45:26] <crutchy> prolly not
[10:45:36] <crutchy> it will be depressing
[10:45:40] <crutchy> :p\
[10:45:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause while that's arguably how the army gets used, that's not what it's there for.
[10:46:17] <crutchy> perhaps, but that's what they've always been used for
[10:46:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> zero arguing that its true purpose is a good one; protecting the lives and rights of your fellow citizens.
[10:47:03] <crutchy> real armies that fight for their freedom are usually rag tag groups with no government affiliation
[10:47:11] <crutchy> there's a name for them that escapes me
[10:47:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, not always. there was that whole freeing ourselves from the brits a couple times, ending slavery, couple others.
[10:47:52] <crutchy> partisans
[10:47:58] <crutchy> ^word that escaped me
[10:48:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> wwi, wwii, yadda yadda yadda
[10:49:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> but if you really believe the whole war for oil lie i got a bridge to sell you.
[10:49:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's simpler than that.
[10:49:29] <crutchy> petrodollar
[10:49:41] <crutchy> simple as that
[10:49:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's blood for fear, fear for votes, votes for power and moneys.
[10:49:55] <crutchy> pfft. nobody cares about votes
[10:50:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> pols who start the wars do.
[10:50:17] <crutchy> democracy is a farce. politicians are mouthpieces
[10:50:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, only mouthpieces for themselves.
[10:51:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> first last n always it's about getting more power and more money for them.
[10:51:19] <crutchy> your taxes (and your great great great great grandchildren's taxes) have already been spent by companies like standard oil and halliburton
[10:51:54] <crutchy> there are no national boundaries in the business world, hence why democracy doesn't matter a shit
[10:51:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> look at our budget. our taxes go to the lazy overwhelmingly.
[10:52:13] <crutchy> what do the lazy do with it?
[10:52:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. give him someone else's fish and he'll vote for you.
[10:52:40] <crutchy> lol
[10:53:11] <crutchy> steal a man's fish and sell it back to him and you'll win the primaries
[10:53:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> sumpin like
[10:55:02] <crutchy> the real power brokers are the ones that hold the keys to the monetary printing presses of the world
[10:55:16] <crutchy> and they aren't voted for
[10:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, money's just paper. real power is having an army that can go and shoot the guys with the printing presses.
[10:56:02] <crutchy> the guys with the printing presses always have the biggest guns
[10:56:09] <crutchy> look at you guys for example
[10:56:49] <crutchy> australia has a printing press, but it's ultimately controlled by the queen of england
[10:57:01] <crutchy> our reserve bank isn't provate
[10:57:08] <crutchy> s/ov/iv/
[10:57:08] <sedctl> <crutchy> our reserve bank isn't private
[10:57:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ours is by the fed but at any time the army could roll in and massacre everyone who works for the fed. and congress to boot if it were a slow day.
[10:57:53] <crutchy> i doubt it. the fed pays your military's wages
[10:58:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not if they're dead and the army got the presses.
[10:58:35] <crutchy> that's a nice hypothetical
[10:58:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> they may think they do but it all comes down to what you can defend.
[10:58:58] <crutchy> unfortunately money talks
[10:59:02] <crutchy> and bullshit..
[10:59:09] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[10:59:29] <crutchy> only way its gunna change is dem partisans
[10:59:38] <crutchy> you guys gotta fight for yerselfs
[10:59:42] <crutchy> well, we all do
[10:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> not gonna happen for a while. most here value comfort over liberty.
[11:00:01] <crutchy> true
[11:00:04] <crutchy> same here
[11:00:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd say sometime within the next 50 years though
[11:01:32] <crutchy> eventuallly the petrodollar will die. not sure whether the IMF SDR's will be shoved down everybody's throats, but there will be turmoil
[11:02:09] <crutchy> you guys depend on exported dollars for your survival
[11:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm really not worried about people who wanna play games with the money though. i'm primarily concerned with little things like free speech, privacy, and the sanctity of private property.
[11:02:34] <crutchy> i'm pretty sure food and shelter would take priority
[11:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> we got none of the above cept remnants
[11:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> food n shelter you will always manage if you aren't bloody stupid
[11:04:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> but above food n shelter, above life even, i value liberty
[11:04:14] <crutchy> most americans would die of starvation if supermarket shelves were empty
[11:04:25] <crutchy> (prolly most aussies too)
[11:04:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> serve em right. we can do without most of them.
[11:05:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of us nowadays couldn't live without sucking government tit
[11:05:01] <crutchy> when most of your food comes from china, if china doesn't want your dollars, they not gunna give you their food
[11:05:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of our food comes from here. we got food production like nobody's business.
[11:05:42] <crutchy> not likely
[11:05:50] <crutchy> not even your fruit and vegetables
[11:06:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, really. we run a surplus every year on agricultural stuff.
[11:06:22] <crutchy> how much of it is exported?
[11:06:23] <ciri> doing great here
[11:06:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> we got lots and lots and lots of farmland
[11:06:42] <crutchy> same here, but most of it is exported... to china :/
[11:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me but if we're hurtin for food it wouldn't be. prices locally would go up and we'd sell here.
[11:07:23] <crutchy> things would eventually settle down, but it would be a massive shock
[11:07:54] <crutchy> imagine what it would be like in manhatten and chicago (if chicago isn't bad enough already)
[11:08:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to shut down the rail lines to have any prollems here. ditto the roads.
[11:08:57] <crutchy> if you think so
[11:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really do run a massive surplus. most everything in the supermarket is locally grown. as in local to the nation.
[11:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you that don't include bananas
[11:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> wheat n corn we can do all day long though
[11:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> got this whole thing between the rocky mountains and the appalachian mountains that is basically one big farm.
[11:17:07] <crutchy> you export a lot and you import a lot
[11:17:13] <crutchy> almost more than anyone else
[11:17:24] <crutchy> http://www.mapsofworld.com
[11:17:24] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Countries by Agricultural Exports - World Top Ten
[11:17:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup but raise the prices and we stop exporting
[11:17:30] <crutchy> http://www.mapsofworld.com
[11:17:30] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Top 10 Countries by Agricultural Imports - World Top Ten
[11:17:52] <crutchy> prolly won't be raised prices that causes issues
[11:17:59] <crutchy> well, it will domestically
[11:18:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, monetary issues though
[11:18:22] <crutchy> but internationally it will be forex
[11:18:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> or folks will have to get used to eating stuff that can be grown domestically only
[11:19:17] <crutchy> i been trying to convince the misses that we should have a veggy patch. shit we got enough room for one
[11:19:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> which we've done before and can do again easily enough, even if it does mean no bananas or pineapples.
[11:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it. fresh veggies ftw.
[11:19:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i highly recommend tomatoes n peppers at the very least.
[11:19:56] <crutchy> hard to go it alone in a marriage
[11:20:23] <crutchy> even motivation-wise its hard
[11:20:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think she don't wanna be out there weeding
[11:20:53] <crutchy> prolly. back injury is making things pretty shit
[11:21:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> kids old enough to pull weeds yet?
[11:21:11] <crutchy> yeah
[11:21:24] <crutchy> they'd prolly love it. maybe i'll start with something little
[11:21:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go then. good old fashioned child labor ftw.
[11:21:48] <crutchy> haha. everyone's gotta work
[11:22:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. kids nowadays are lazy little sods who never gotta do shit until after college.
[11:22:53] <crutchy> i was watching a USMC boot camp thing on youtube yesterday. brought back memories of when i was a teen in the air training corps here. motivated me to mow the back lawn the fastest i've ever done it i think
[11:22:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had plenty to do and i consider myself pampered back then
[11:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[11:23:25] <crutchy> then i did a load of dishes and polished my shoes lol
[11:23:44] <crutchy> gave myself a blood nose while i was lawnmowing
[11:23:47] <crutchy> it was awesome :p
[11:24:29] <crutchy> i should watch that video every weekend i think
[11:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas silliness. it's good to have a work ethic but always remember what you get is the reason you work. if you don't want it enough to sweat for it, don't.
[11:26:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i only work begrudgingly. i got over my doing hard shit just because it's hard phase back... well prolly in boot camp.
[11:28:16] <crutchy> i've never been to an army boot camp (i'm a wimpy geek) but i've spent many an evening in the dark and wet in the middle of an airfield standing at attention and listening to a sergeant yelling commands
[11:28:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> same old same old cept a bit more running and push-ups in the army
[11:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> least here
[11:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> aside from being tired All THE TIME, boot camp was kinda fun. guns, explosives, obstacle courses. all the kinda things boys dig.
[11:36:43] <chromas> And male nudity
[11:37:01] <chromas> Whoops, did I say that out loud?
[11:37:08] <crutchy> ~g'day chromas :D
[11:37:09] * exec abrasively slides a tinfoil hat of bacon to chromas :D
[11:37:40] <chromas> ~g'day crutchy, TheMightyBuzzard
[11:37:42] * exec fanatically poops a blagoblag of g'day juice for crutchy, TheMightyBuzzard
[11:38:01] <crutchy> mmmm.. g'day poop
[11:38:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that was the one down side. they really should have put the chicks in with us. not like anyone had the energy to do anything inappropriate.
[11:38:14] <chromas> crutchy: he's right; grow some peppers and tomatoes. Fuckin' awesome and delicious
[11:38:23] <CoolHand> ~g'day everyone :)
[11:38:24] * exec abnormally postulates a toilet bowl of red cordial towards everyone :)
[11:38:42] <crutchy> haven't had the anvil come up for a while
[11:39:08] <chromas> Does it drop?
[11:39:32] <crutchy> dunno. i don't think i got 'drops' as an action
[11:39:55] * chromas drops an anvil of onions on CoolHand
[11:40:09] <crutchy> hehe. do now :p
[11:40:32] <chromas> Not sure how it would hold anything but anyhow, onions are good
[11:40:38] <CoolHand> mmmmmmmm... onions... ouch.. anvil
[11:41:00] <crutchy> the question is, which falls faster... the anvil or the onions
[11:41:19] <CoolHand> I think I remember that question from physics 101..
[11:41:23] <crutchy> prolly the onions. i never seen an aerodynamic anvil
[11:41:51] <chromas> The anvil stays up until you notice it overhead
[11:42:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> cartoons would never lie to us
[11:42:35] <crutchy> if someone drops an anvil in a forest and there's only one guy standing under its path, does it make a sound when it hits the ground?
[11:44:17] <crutchy> tomatoes are the way to go. maybe some peas too. kids love picking peas
[11:44:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> big fan of okra myself but that's probably a yank thing
[11:44:46] <CoolHand> or strawberries
[11:44:50] <crutchy> ~define okra
[11:44:53] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03okra: okra is the most delicous veggy ever created.
[11:44:54] <chromas> Are you saying the anvil is playing to the audience when it dongs?
[11:45:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - You Have the Right to Bear Arms, Not “Electrical” Arms, Court Declares - http://sylnt.us - founding-fathers-didn't-have-tazers || Killers of Boris Nemtsov Found, Arrested - http://sylnt.us - crime-and-punishment
[11:45:28] <crutchy> well, anvils are usually horny
[11:48:55] * chromas bears bare bear arms full of horny anvils
[11:50:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[11:50:49] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03SN comment by The Mighty Buzzard (18)
[11:51:07] <crutchy> 3d printers have kinda already made gun laws largely unenforceable
[11:51:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if you like crappy guns, yeah.
[11:51:55] <crutchy> i think 'untraceable' is the operative word
[11:52:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> not like you couldn't make a gun before though. kirk made one to fight that gorn without even any tools.
[11:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, shotguns don't leave ballistic evidence either unless you use a slug.
[11:56:42] <crutchy> i thought it was more to do with serialized receivers and barrels n stuff
[11:56:54] <crutchy> not so much to do with forensics
[11:57:12] <chromas> Collect shot, 3d scan, computer buttmagic, calculate each ball's starting position within the shell
[11:57:33] <chromas> We should write csi episodes
[11:57:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, doesn't much matter if they know which handle went with which gun. it's all about forensics.
[11:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define buttmagic
[11:58:29] <exec> [soylent] buttmagic: something so magical it could only have been pulled out of one's ass. See CSI.
[11:58:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather apt
[11:59:07] <chromas> "Only one company within the Tri-State area puts this much lead in their shot"
[11:59:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh. this is why you load your own.
[12:00:07] <crutchy> there's only one couple in the entire world that could bash away on the same keyboard at the same time to combat someone hacking their mainframe
[12:01:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> root and the plague?
[12:01:24] <chromas> "We found trace evidence that indicates a farticle made its way into the shell and left dna behind. We'll have it cultured and search the database in five minutes"
[12:02:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i forgot about farticles
[12:02:56] <chromas> Your pants haven't
[12:03:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, no they have not.
[12:04:37] <chromas> So uh, if anyone has a spare psych degree sitting idle, we could use yet another crime drama
[12:05:36] <chromas> csi: cyber needs a competitor. Maybe ncis: information superhighway
[12:06:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> law and order: redchanit unit
[12:07:05] <chromas> ~define redchanit
[12:07:17] <exec> redchanit: unable to find definition
[12:07:20] <chromas> I'm probably too young for that
[12:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, was on SVU a couple weeks ago
[12:07:42] <chromas> Lol
[12:07:51] <crutchy> law and order: reddit4chan unit
[12:07:53] <chromas> The worst of the law and orders
[12:08:04] <chromas> Ah, that makes sense
[12:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> poor little minority female game dev was threatened and otherwise harassed by the evil white guys from redchanit
[12:09:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and they were going around killing too for some reason
[12:09:30] <chromas> Law and order usually does decent with the computer stuff, at least when it's not an important part of the story
[12:09:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> very well written i thought
[12:09:41] <crutchy> so she hacked the fbi, stole the redchanit addresses and swatted the little bastards!
[12:10:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, it was bloody awful but hilarious for it
[12:10:44] <crutchy> was it as good as fat pizza?
[12:11:06] <chromas> crutchy: only if she got raped along the way.
[12:11:15] <crutchy> lol
[12:11:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk
[12:11:22] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Law & Order: Special Victims Unit s16e08 Episode Script | SS
[12:11:23] <chromas> Well that took too long to type. Went for your previous message
[12:11:51] <chromas> Svu is the Lifetime of crime dramas
[12:12:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> woah! courtesy of cmdrtaco: https://www.kickstarter.com
[12:16:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> best part was where ice T snipes the guy and gets accused of camping
[12:17:10] <chromas> used to rap about killing cops, now he plays one on tv
[12:17:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> irony is a thing
[12:18:03] <chromas> damn, now I wanna watch that episode
[12:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> up to you to find it. it would be illegal for me to go posting a link to the episode from kickass.to or some such.
[12:20:40] <chromas> nah, i should watch it on tv so i can learn about all the new chips and cars and how the isp i'm already using is so much better than, uh...
[12:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> carrier pigeons?
[12:21:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> pony express?
[12:21:51] <chromas> you must mean dsl
[12:23:08] <chromas> oh yeah, and all the cheaper cell phone carrier plans that are the same price as the ones before but with even more limited data usage
[12:23:41] <chromas> ciri: the best part about ads is the repetition
[12:23:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes me wanna go right out and buy a shiny new idroid
[12:23:49] <chromas> 2
[12:23:50] <ciri> 3
[12:25:10] <chromas> apple is in the porn industry i guess
[12:25:42] <chromas> showing lots of closeups of their iwatch and then telling me its about to come
[12:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> sound logic
[12:33:19] <SirFinkus> I wonder if more ports on the new macbook will open up as it ages
[12:34:28] <crutchy> lol
[12:34:28] <ciri> hahaha
[12:34:36] <crutchy> wwf.internet
[12:38:09] <crutchy> 'well that's a penis, and she's trying to grab it because she's got like big bazookas
[12:38:17] <crutchy> habib++
[12:38:17] <Bender> karma - habib: 3
[12:39:35] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:39:36] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Fat Pizza S03E04 School Pizza - YouTube
[12:42:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.slashfilm.com
[12:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> because there's entirely enough sex in star wars to justify mentioning someone's sexual orientation
[12:47:34] <chromas> especially in the last three
[12:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin sjws
[12:48:03] <SirFinkus> is there an incest movement too?
[12:48:14] * SirFinkus honestly doesn't know, but wouldn't be shocked
[12:48:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> if not there should be. incest is best, put your sister to the test.
[12:49:38] <chromas> "She also happens to be a lesbian." so not news at all
[12:49:41] <crutchy> i think that's prolly more family guy you're after
[12:49:42] <paulej72> any issues I need to be aware of?
[12:50:09] <SirFinkus> with incest?
[12:50:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> two headed babies
[12:50:57] <SirFinkus> I don't have any particular problems with it as long as both (all?) parties are consenting adults
[12:51:02] <crutchy> "davo, are you ok? cos you're talking to your thong"
[12:51:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> a desire to move to arkansas
[12:51:48] * chromas blames obama
[12:51:58] <chromas> telling me where i can't stick the gun in my pants
[12:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, only thing i can think of is the mp2 repo isn't up to date with what's on dev.
[12:52:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna do something about it yesterday but then i remembered i was lazy
[12:54:53] <chromas> whew. memory came through just in time
[12:54:56] <SirFinkus> Arkansas? aren't you moving to Tennessee? you don't have much room to talk TheMightyBuzzard
[12:55:30] <paulej72> Tn is close enough
[12:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> tennessee people are too drunk to bang their sisters. whiskey capitol of the US.
[12:55:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully there's no such thing as too drunk to fish.
[12:56:00] <paulej72> then why is the the county with the distillery a dry one?
[12:56:01] <SirFinkus> or maybe they're just drunk enough to fuck their sisters
[12:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, cause otherwise they'd never get the trucks loaded for the rest of the US.
[12:56:40] <crutchy> they might be drunk enough to fuck whatever moves and has a hole in it
[12:57:01] <paulej72> wisky casks have a hole
[12:57:02] <SirFinkus> besides, being the whiskey capital of the US is like being the best beer at budweiser when scotch exists
[12:57:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, a bung hole even
[12:57:18] <SirFinkus> how do you think noodling was invented?
[12:57:24] <crutchy> paulej72, might be better than american pie even
[12:57:29] <SirFinkus> catfish have purty mouths
[12:58:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> also have very mean tooth pads on their lips.
[12:58:28] <SirFinkus> sexy
[12:58:35] <crutchy> most pussy has teeth
[12:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> be about as fun as trying to bugger a hedgehog
[12:58:40] <ciri> lol weak bladder TheMightyBuzzard
[12:58:47] <SirFinkus> just like their sisters
[13:00:04] <SirFinkus> genetics are a bitch
[13:00:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i need to reread some terry pratchett
[13:00:54] <crutchy> http://dailysignal.com
[13:00:54] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Wisconsin Becoming a Right-to-Work State Will Boost Its Job Growth
[13:01:18] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:01:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> has pretty much everywhere else it's happened
[13:01:32] <crutchy> "Wisconsin is poised this week to become the 25th “right-to-work state,” ending forced unionization and allowing individual workers to decide if they want to join a union or not."
[13:01:44] <crutchy> "Some 3,000 liberal protesters stormed the Capitol in Madison over the weekend to reverse the momentum for the new law."
[13:01:57] <crutchy> there's the punch line
[13:02:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, libs are right pissy over it
[13:03:00] <paulej72> if unions work like they promise they would, I would not mind joining one. but today they are just a way to have aq few live rich off of the work of others.
[13:03:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> true dat
[13:03:20] <SirFinkus> unions are good in the sense that they force some degree of symmetry in negotiations, but the idea of being forced to join one is absurd
[13:03:31] <SirFinkus> especially when a lot of them are just political organizations now
[13:03:42] <paulej72> everytime I hear about a compandy that has retirement plan problems, I think why didn't the uninon make sure that did not happen
[13:03:44] <crutchy> they're just mobs
[13:03:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i considered moving up there for a while then i found out i'd be paying like $250/mo in property tax for a home like i have now.
[13:03:52] <crutchy> their way or the highway
[13:04:41] <crutchy> you don't strike when they want, you get beaten up
[13:04:43] <SirFinkus> collective bargaining is misused pretty often, but workers need it to some extent
[13:05:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's half a freaking house payment extra per month. they are absolutely insane up there.
[13:05:11] <crutchy> the idea of unions is good, but so is the idea of communism
[13:05:26] <crutchy> never works in practice
[13:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, or bacon flavored booze.
[13:05:53] <SirFinkus> no, bacon flavored booze was never a good idea
[13:05:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds awesome, sucks in reality.
[13:06:01] <SirFinkus> waste of bacon, and booze
[13:06:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. proper way to mix em is in your stomach.
[13:06:32] <SirFinkus> although I wonder about a vodka with a shitton of black pepper in it
[13:06:35] <SirFinkus> might be interesting
[13:06:38] <SirFinkus> I'm sure it exists
[13:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> does
[13:06:54] <crutchy> waste of black pepper
[13:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i made sake with a lot of black pepper in it before. wasn't as good as i hoped but was drinkable.
[13:07:30] <SirFinkus> I'm thinking about the taste, and I think it might be good and not a waste of pepper
[13:08:25] <crutchy> i've only had vodka once. dry. with an associated short period of memory loss
[13:08:34] <SirFinkus> it also seems like it'd be something you'd take shots of, or use in cocktails
[13:08:41] <SirFinkus> not for sipping
[13:08:45] <paulej72> I think the alcohol would disolve some of the oils in the black pepper differently and make it not taste the same as it normally does
[13:08:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> or drink warm
[13:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oils are the problem really. they float on top.
[13:09:28] <crutchy> i have nfi how russians can be such awesome rocket scientists with the amount of vodka they drink
[13:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> take most of the flavor with them.
[13:09:51] <SirFinkus> oh shit, bloody marys
[13:09:56] <paulej72> maybe vodka is the key to good rocketry
[13:10:00] <SirFinkus> it'd be perfect if it worked
[13:10:08] <crutchy> it is rocket fuel i guess
[13:10:50] <crutchy> fuck
[13:10:53] <crutchy> ~time
[13:10:54] <exec> Wednesday, 11 March 2015 @ 12:10 am GMT+11 - Melbourne VIC
[13:11:08] <paulej72> can be, but i never seen a commerial rocket use it. Energy density is too low compared to kero
[13:11:13] <crutchy> i was gunna have an early night tonight
[13:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[13:11:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite crutchy
[13:11:29] <ciri> nite TheMightyBuzzard
[13:11:31] <paulej72> that is early
[13:11:31] <crutchy> cyas
[13:11:35] <crutchy> lol
[13:11:35] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[13:16:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Launches iWatch - http://sylnt.us - Calling-Dick-Tracy
[13:18:06] * nick sigh
[13:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, nick
[13:18:30] <nick> afternoon, TheMightyBuzzard
[13:18:32] <nick> how goes?
[13:18:33] <ciri> not sure
[13:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well enough. finally quit raining.
[13:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought i'd moved to the UK or something yesterday
[13:19:12] <nick> heh
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[13:45:32] * nick has a sad that we didnt get to avoid the iwatch story
[13:46:09] <SirFinkus> mmm, cemetary gates is a good song
[13:47:00] * nick listens
[13:47:25] <SirFinkus> fun to play too
[13:47:33] <SirFinkus> but I don't have the harmonics down yet
[13:47:35] <nick> youtube is easier than trying to find it in my actual music collection
[13:47:39] <nick> both digital and physical
[13:47:54] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[13:47:55] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Pantera - Cemetery Gates (Official Video) - YouTube
[13:48:00] <SirFinkus> you've heard it a million times before
[13:48:06] <nick> i found it already, that was my point
[13:48:17] <nick> easier to go youtube and find it than look through my files or cds
[13:48:29] <SirFinkus> ahh
[13:48:30] <nick> im not 100% if i have it, but it's one of those songs, be surprised if i didnt
[13:49:01] <nick> i must do, seem to have rather a lot of pantera on the ol' computer
[13:49:10] <SirFinkus> I'm running low on space because of all my music
[13:49:16] <SirFinkus> doesn't help I insist on lossless
[13:49:31] <nick> that wont help
[13:49:54] <SirFinkus> ssd and lossless don't mix
[13:50:02] <nick> i probably wouldn't be able to find most of the stuff i'd want on lossless
[13:50:39] <SirFinkus> I can find most of it, but a lot of stuff I'll never get lossless
[13:50:52] <SirFinkus> private trackers help lol
[13:51:03] <nick> yeah
[13:51:35] <nick> i actually found some music on youtube, that i thought was lost
[13:51:41] <nick> which wasn't around anywhere else
[13:52:12] <nick> which really made my day
[13:52:20] <nick> hearing music that i'd lost for years
[13:52:30] <SirFinkus> the really fun ones are artists that don't have wikipedia pages or websites
[13:52:50] <nick> the song im talking about, has been on youtube since 2010
[13:53:00] <nick> it has a whole 276 views and at least 5 of them are me
[13:53:22] <SirFinkus> haha
[13:53:41] <nick> https://www.youtube.com
[13:53:42] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Estévez - Stacking Shelves - YouTube
[13:53:53] <nick> it's just some 'local' (to somewhere) punk-rock
[13:55:27] <nick> and this was another one, also with only 200 views: https://www.youtube.com
[13:55:28] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Hong Kong Dragons - Storm 3003 - YouTube
[13:56:15] <SirFinkus> I got you beat
[13:56:16] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[13:56:16] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03炎を上げて / 凱旋MARCH - YouTube
[13:56:56] <SirFinkus> impossible to find this album, much less in lossless
[13:57:43] <nick> might be easier in japan
[13:58:01] * SirFinkus has friends in japan
[13:58:07] <SirFinkus> last I checked it was out of print
[13:58:22] <SirFinkus> at least 37 people know about it though
[13:59:05] <nick> well 9000 views isnt that bad for obscure, there's some interest there
[13:59:28] <nick> the style is reminding me of another band but i can't think who
[13:59:57] <SirFinkus> oh shit, I was looking at the likes and I thought there were only 36 people
[14:00:01] <SirFinkus> it's to early for numbers
[14:00:11] <nick> heh
[14:00:30] <nick> it's a good track
[14:00:33] <nick> im enjoying it
[14:01:40] <SirFinkus> band used to be called 凱旋MARCH, or Gaisen March
[14:02:34] <SirFinkus> oh wait, that is still 凱旋march, I'm thinking MASA SAITOH MASA
[14:04:40] <nick> i can see they're not easy to track down
[14:04:49] <nick> im assuming they're not really 'active' at the moment?
[14:05:10] <nick> or just playing small shows in japan, if they're doing anything
[14:05:47] <SirFinkus> it's hard to tell with Japanese bands
[14:05:58] <SirFinkus> http://www.geocities.co.jp
[14:05:59] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Ml`qbgItBVTCg
[14:06:02] <SirFinkus> this is their website
[14:06:12] <nick> geocities, what could go wrong?
[14:06:52] <SirFinkus> most bands only update their websites occasionally
[14:07:11] <Leebert> I wanted to start a band just so I can have a MySpace again.
[14:07:53] <nick> im guessing you're looking for their earlier EP, but their full album seems to be available on amazon.co.jp
[14:08:13] <nick> lol, Leebert
[14:08:51] <nick> it was easier then, get a myspace and you're good... now you need a facebook, soundcloud, bandcamp
[14:08:58] <nick> and probably some others that im not cool enough to know about
[14:09:35] <SirFinkus> I already have that one nick, I missing whichever album or ep 炎を上げて is on
[14:10:04] <nick> im guessing it's the EP before that, which is no surprise it's out of print
[14:10:11] <nick> they seem to have only released one ep and one album
[14:10:15] <SirFinkus> oh, it looks like it
[14:10:59] <SirFinkus> I actually thought I had that first ep somewhere
[14:11:34] * SirFinkus has a backlog of stuff to listen to anyway
[14:12:17] <Leebert> Man. Being in a band sounds like so much work. :(
[14:12:52] <nick> it can be heh
[14:13:49] <SirFinkus> for no/little pay too
[14:14:06] <nick> a friend of mine, and myself have been working on an album for i think over 10 years now, it's become a joke in itself at this point heh
[14:14:25] <SirFinkus> but it's gotta be tons easier these days, you can do all the work yourself now pretty inexpensively
[14:14:33] <Leebert> nick: "Duke Nukem 3D - the EP"?
[14:14:36] <SirFinkus> distribution is a solved problem
[14:14:44] <nick> something like that, Leebert heh
[14:14:58] <nick> yeah, it's a lot easier now than it was
[14:15:20] <nick> ive had a lot of fun collaborating with people all over the world because of how easy it is in this day and age
[14:15:36] <SirFinkus> the pressure of releasing a good album though, and needing to do another one that will live up to it has got to be the worst part imo
[14:16:19] <nick> and it almost never works, most bands are working on their first 'real' album for a long time, and have all the years they were indie to pick the best
[14:16:29] <nick> but second album, theyve been touring the first album which they spent a long time on
[14:16:34] <nick> and now they have to find a whole load new material
[14:16:50] <nick> whats the betting one song on the second album will be about life on tour ;)
[14:17:23] <SirFinkus> at some point you have to get better at arranging songs though, I'd imagine album 3 is a lot easier than album 2
[14:17:36] <nick> yeah
[14:17:49] <SirFinkus> assuming 2 wasn't a complete bust
[14:18:10] <nick> on that kind of thing, i was a big fan (and still am) of Run The Jewels ... but i cannot bring myself to listen to Run The Jewels 2 because i just cant see it living up to the first one
[14:18:33] <SirFinkus> but you might be pleasantly surprised
[14:18:43] <SirFinkus> think Black Sabbath
[14:18:58] <nick> sure, i might be, it's had a lot of good reviews
[14:19:07] <nick> i try not to think black sabbath lol
[14:19:35] <nick> i appreciate black sabbath for being pioneers, but their music has never done anything for me
[14:19:38] <SirFinkus> point is, they had a great first album, then they had an even better second album
[14:19:45] <SirFinkus> provided you're a fan of it of course
[14:20:21] <SirFinkus> and then that trend continued with improvement or more of the same for 2-3 more albums, their first few were ridiculous
[14:20:33] <nick> it's totally reasonable, it's just a personal thing i have about 'ruining' the old by hearing the new
[14:20:51] <SirFinkus> then the heroin caught up with them
[14:21:05] <SirFinkus> but then dio came along and they released more awesome albums
[14:21:08] <nick> same applies to TV shows for me, always meh to start a new season, or finish the old one just incase they fuck it up trying to make everyone happy with a conclusion
[14:21:25] * SirFinkus likes happy endings
[14:21:52] <SirFinkus> not really though, just wanted to make the cheap joke
[14:21:58] <nick> heh
[14:22:01] <nick> it was very cheap ;)
[14:22:07] <SirFinkus> free even
[14:22:28] <SirFinkus> I tend to the do the opposite, I like the artist's latest release and learn to appreciate their older stuff
[14:22:55] <nick> depends when you're introduced to them
[14:23:15] <SirFinkus> suppose
[14:23:25] <nick> I've been a fan of Frank Turner since before he released his first album
[14:23:36] <nick> so every new one fills me with dread and takes me a long time to get around to listening to it
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[14:24:08] <janrinok> hi guys
[14:24:08] <ciri> excellent janrinok
[14:24:14] <nick> hi janrinok
[14:24:22] <SirFinkus> the pattern for me is excitement for the new album
[14:24:26] <SirFinkus> then I listen to it, think it's shit
[14:24:34] <SirFinkus> then I suddenly love it
[14:24:36] <janrinok> hi nick, SirFinkus
[14:24:41] <SirFinkus> sup janrinok
[14:25:13] <janrinok> OK'ish - still got this damned sore throat and cough
[14:25:23] <SirFinkus> currently going through that with the latest blind guardian album
[14:25:32] <SirFinkus> sucks, drink lots of tea
[14:25:47] <janrinok> Lemon, honey and root ginger for me
[14:25:47] <nick> SirFinkus, it can be a complicated thing. I was so disappointed by The Ocean's latest album
[14:26:06] <nick> however, the instrumental version of it, is fucking amazin
[14:26:09] <SirFinkus> Pelagial?
[14:26:11] <nick> aye
[14:26:26] <SirFinkus> I loved it, but it was my first album of theirs
[14:26:32] <nick> it took some listens, but the vocal version just didnt work at all for me
[14:26:38] <nick> then i heard what i was supposed to in the instrumental
[14:26:40] <SirFinkus> don't mind the vocals
[14:26:44] <nick> as it was apparently written as an instrumental
[14:26:50] <nick> because the vocalist was very ill
[14:26:53] <SirFinkus> yeah, the special edition has the instrumental
[14:27:00] <nick> then he got better so they rerecorded it with vocals
[14:27:10] <SirFinkus> lol
[14:27:41] <nick> i liked the vocals on previous albums
[14:28:10] * SirFinkus is listening to The Ocean — Epipelagic (Instrumental), from the album Pelagial
[14:28:11] <nick> Heliocentric was a great album
[14:28:18] <SirFinkus> time to give the instrumental version a try
[14:28:28] <nick> but thats where i got into the them
[14:28:49] * SirFinkus needs new headphones too
[14:28:55] <nick> 'real' The Ocean fans are not impressed much by anything after precambrian
[14:29:06] <SirFinkus> well, they can go fuck themselves
[14:29:11] <nick> indeed lol
[14:29:39] <SirFinkus> not that I know, afaik, they had a big dive in quality after that
[14:30:20] <nick> heliocentric was the album after precambrian, but i havn't listened to it so i dont have the comparison to make
[14:30:45] <nick> Heliocentric and Anthropocentric were released at the same time
[14:30:48] <nick> but have different sounds
[14:30:50] <SirFinkus> well, might as well give it a shot
[14:31:15] <nick> i really need to
[14:31:21] <nick> it took me a year to get around to pelagial
[14:31:35] <SirFinkus> stupid prog bands and their gimmicks
[14:31:46] <nick> same with Pelican's Forever Becoming
[14:32:05] <nick> took me a year to get around to listening to it, put it on as background music, spent 50minutes(or however long) doing nothing but enjoying it
[14:32:33] <SirFinkus> I was shocked that the latest sleep release was actually good
[14:32:39] <nick> https://www.youtube.com
[14:32:40] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Pelican - Deny the Absolute OFFICIAL VIDEO - YouTube
[14:33:12] <nick> cant say im aware of their work
[14:33:27] <SirFinkus> you probably are
[14:33:43] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[14:33:43] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Sleep - Dopesmoker - YouTube
[14:33:55] * SirFinkus adds pelican to growing list of artists to check out
[14:34:47] <nick> listening to your link
[14:34:53] <SirFinkus> best song in terms of quantity and quality
[14:35:34] <nick> a one hour sludge/doom epic?
[14:35:43] <SirFinkus> yes
[14:35:49] <nick> i'm down with that
[14:36:02] <SirFinkus> shocked you haven't heard of it if you like sludge stuff
[14:36:19] <nick> i like a lot of stuff
[14:36:24] <SirFinkus> fair enough
[14:36:25] <nick> like yourself, it's hard to find the time
[14:36:55] <nick> i really stopped paying attention to music so much when i started travelling
[14:37:03] <nick> didn't have the time to go searching like i used to
[14:37:41] <nick> have recently started looking again though, dont want to miss out
[14:38:09] <SirFinkus> this is like, THE sludge/doom/stoner metal song
[14:40:04] <nick> eyehategod and weedeater are my goto bands for sludge
[14:41:06] <SirFinkus> the names are always so cringeworthy though
[14:41:42] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
[14:45:49] <nick> https://www.youtube.com
[14:45:49] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Weedeater - Wizard Fight - YouTube
[14:46:34] <ar> https://twitter.com http://beta.sourcemage.ru
[14:46:35] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03new299 on Twitter: "Sudo DENIED! http://t.co"
[14:47:43] <nick> where's systemd
[14:47:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Warren Buffett's Success at Berkshire Hathaway Examined - http://sylnt.us - how-to-win-at-gambling:-own-the-casino
[14:48:05] <ar> nick: on #hackerspace-pl on freenode ;)
[14:48:44] <SirFinkus> is oregano a unix program, or did they just throw that in there?
[14:49:15] <ar> hm?
[14:49:27] <SirFinkus> in the picture
[14:49:47] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org(software) I found this, but it seems kind of obscure to be grouped in with tar and diff
[14:49:48] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Wiki: Oregano (software
[14:50:03] <ar> oh
[14:50:21] <nick> oregano was like the first thing i noticed
[14:50:42] <ar> i didn't notice it until now
[14:53:57] <nick> might do some musical things today, be creative in a non-working or editing way
[15:08:21] <SirFinkus> good plan
[15:12:44] <nick> recently got back into listening to drum&bass, got me inspired
[15:19:10] <SirFinkus> too exhausted to do much myself atm
[15:20:53] <nick> fooooood
[15:25:57] <SirFinkus> caffeeeeeeeine
[15:26:16] <SirFinkus> the world's favorite stimulant!
[15:26:25] <nick> im about to get my dose actually
[15:26:48] <nick> http://en.wikipedia.org
[15:26:48] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03Wiki: M-150 (energy drink)
[15:27:36] <SirFinkus> can't stand energy drinks
[15:27:52] <SirFinkus> brewing tea now
[15:29:35] <nick> you're not supposed to like it ;)
[15:29:48] <nick> it says "sacrifice" on the damn bottle ffs
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[15:34:50] <SirFinkus> I'd rather just take a pill at that point though
[15:34:56] <SirFinkus> but tea is nice
[15:35:12] <nick> being born in the UK, you'll hear no disagreement from me ;)
[15:48:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DRAM Exploit Gives Super User Status - http://sylnt.us - memory-hole
[16:25:17] <SirFinkus> cities skylines comes out today, looking forward to seeing if it's good or not
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[16:26:21] <SirFinkus> oh, it's already out
[16:26:22] <SirFinkus> neat
[16:27:56] <nick> interesting
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[16:35:47] <nick> too many games ive not got around to playing yet
[16:36:29] <nick> ive been planning no creating a new scenario for arma2 for ages, ontop of buying more games i havnt played yet at all
[16:37:11] <SirFinkus> yeah, arma will ruin your life
[16:39:34] <nick> the mission editor is great
[16:39:40] <nick> but yeah, it can eat up the hours
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[18:12:05] <SirFinkus> oh no, Jeremy Clarkson got suspended
[18:12:12] <SirFinkus> no top gear this weekend
[18:13:25] <nick> oh well
[18:13:35] <nick> it's clear he doesn't want to do it anymore anyway
[18:15:07] <SirFinkus> that's a pity, don't think the show can survive without him
[18:15:54] <nick> he lost interest when he sold his interest to the BBC as far as i could tell, and he was tired of it before then
[18:16:15] <nick> it is way past its prime
[18:17:53] <nick> part of the deal for selling his interest was that he had to stay on the show for another 3 years
[18:18:03] <SirFinkus> I actually think this last season has been great, it seems like they're focusing more on cars than insane stunts
[18:19:13] <nick> they have shifted a bit more to the cars, but it's always rare and extremely expensive ones they spend real time on
[18:19:50] <nick> how much time over the years have they wasted on every iteration of the latest pagani or lamborghini
[18:20:03] <SirFinkus> thought that was kind of the point?
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[18:20:34] <nick> it was a much better mix in the earlier years
[18:20:36] <SirFinkus> they should bring back the "I went on the internet and I found this" bit though
[18:20:48] <nick> with the cheap car challenge stuff, and actually reviewing normal cars
[18:21:55] <SirFinkus> they still do those, but roll them in with the scenery porn more often
[18:22:33] <SirFinkus> the truck episode last week was also pretty fun, I kind of wish that had been a bit longer though
[18:22:35] <nick> ive watched it since they started it back up again
[18:22:48] <nick> and it just feels so forced and contrived now
[18:22:53] <nick> nothing feels natural at all about anything they do
[18:23:06] <nick> it's always been scripted but they dont even try anymore it feels to me
[18:23:29] <nick> (and by started it back up, i mean i used to watch original top gear when it was just consumer advice)
[18:23:39] * SirFinkus shrugs to each their own
[18:24:27] <nick> but what i will say is
[18:24:35] <nick> i know a lot of people who dont like cars
[18:24:36] <nick> now love the show
[18:26:05] <nick> i enjoy a few segments, but the overall show is horrible and the 'star in a reasonably priced car' segment seems to get longer with every season
[18:28:37] <nick> it was season 13 they seemed to stop reviewing normal cars
[18:28:50] <nick> before that it was an even mix of normal and super/hyper cars
[18:30:44] <SirFinkus> just reviewed the new mx-5 last week
[18:33:03] <nick> there were a few segments in the preview for the current seasons i was interested in. maybe ive just seen too much of it
[18:35:14] <Subsentient> chromas: Can I pester you into a game of Warzone 2100?
[18:37:13] <SirFinkus> recently they had that saab special too, it was almost an entire episode iirc
[18:37:17] <SirFinkus> 1-2 years ago
[18:39:31] * SirFinkus really wants a saab 900 turbo
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[18:40:54] <n1> <+nick> yeah, the saab thing was good. i'm hoping the land rover defender segment will be as good
[18:43:21] <n1> the saab segment was season18, which also had the 'chinese car industry' one, which is the last 'great' segment that i recall
[18:43:46] <n1> which ties in quite nicely, as that season was 2011-2012, and clarkson sold his share to the BBC in 2012
[18:44:30] <n1> it's not a bad show, and in comparison to the shit thats out there, it's fantastic still
[18:44:51] <SirFinkus> when was the north pole trip? that one was great too
[18:45:11] <SirFinkus> oh shit, that one's old
[18:45:17] <SirFinkus> 07
[18:45:31] <n1> yeah
[18:45:33] <n1> polar special was 07
[18:46:15] <SirFinkus> I'm a sucker for the vista porn, which they seem to still be doing
[18:46:43] <SirFinkus> ahh, new zealand, that one was good too
[18:47:06] <n1> vista porn is a good way to put it
[18:47:22] <SirFinkus> rental car vs yacht
[18:47:36] <SirFinkus> damn fine episode
[18:48:26] <n1> trying to recall that
[18:48:29] <JamesNZ> Speaking of rental cars: http://www.lingscars.com
[18:48:33] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03CAR LEASING DEALS SCOTLAND CHEAP CAR LEASE PCP DEALS GLASGOW EDINBURGH FALKIRK HIGHLANDS PERSONAL CONTRACT PURCHASE
[18:49:15] <SirFinkus> clarkson drove the fastest car in the world (a rental car with insurance) and raced may who was in a fancy yacht
[18:49:16] <n1> you mean there are cheap car lease deals going around?
[18:49:21] <n1> thats the first ive heard of it!
[18:49:34] <SirFinkus> err, several cheap rental cars
[18:49:36] <JamesNZ> :D
[18:49:48] <SirFinkus> think he ended up going through 3
[18:49:58] <n1> i vaguely remember it
[18:50:25] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[18:50:26] <FunkMasterBash> ^ 03"Fastest car in the world" vs Yacht - New Zealand Race - Top Gear - Series 20 - BBC - YouTube
[18:50:57] <n1> those cars were clearly not rented from 'Thrifty'
[18:51:40] <n1> yeah, i remember this now
[18:51:46] <SirFinkus> avis
[18:52:54] <n1> thrifty/dollar (in the US) are a pain in the ass
[18:53:22] <SirFinkus> never heard of them
[18:53:26] <n1> it's like they dont want you to rent cars from them, and they can super fussy about the most minor cosmetic damage
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[18:56:52] <n1> ah yes, this challenge with the oracle yacht, it's really all coming back now heh
[19:00:48] <SirFinkus> oh shit, clarkson actually punched someone apparently
[19:02:32] <n1> wow
[19:02:47] <n1> didnt expect that
[19:02:59] <SirFinkus> idk why it would come to that, he owns the ip and I'm sure he has more money than god
[19:03:15] <SirFinkus> it seems absurd that he couldn't just get rid of the producer if he was a problem
[19:03:47] <n1> he doesnt own the IP anymore, that was the point i was making earlier
[19:03:55] <n1> he had to sell it to the BBC or they couldn't produce it anymore
[19:04:19] <n1> because BBC had new rules about having to produce more stuff internally or something
[19:05:10] <SirFinkus> ahh
[19:05:15] <SirFinkus> misunderstood the situation
[19:05:22] <SirFinkus> I thought they only had distro rights
[19:05:45] <n1> that was the earlier deal
[19:05:56] <SirFinkus> but still, what's stopping him from just up and doing his own show?
[19:05:57] <n1> BBC still owned 50% of it before the rest was sold to them
[19:06:07] <SirFinkus> wait for the contracts to go out, then compete
[19:06:09] <n1> part of the deal of him selling it was he had to stay on for 3 years
[19:06:17] <n1> because he would have sold it and quit
[19:06:19] <n1> and they'd have no show
[19:06:36] <SirFinkus> that was 2012? 2015 seems like 3 years to me
[19:07:04] <n1> it was probably up at the end of this season
[19:07:25] <n1> im sure there's more to it, but will have to wait and see on that
[19:07:30] <SirFinkus> man, it really was stupid to punch the producer in that case
[19:07:36] <n1> i doubt he wants to do a new show anyway
[19:07:45] <n1> he's done it all, unless he has a new project he wants to do
[19:07:52] <n1> i'd assume he just wants to retire and enjoy the millions he's made
[19:07:54] <SirFinkus> sit it out 3 more weeks, then make that a negotiation point when the renewal negotiations come up
[19:08:31] <n1> oh apprently last year he signed a new deal
[19:08:34] <n1> £12million for 3 years
[19:09:42] <SirFinkus> maybe he could go over to american top gear
[19:09:44] * SirFinkus snickers
[19:09:53] <n1> "Two years ago BBC Worldwide paid £8.4million for Clarkson’s 30 per cent stake in a joint venture called Bedder 6 which owned the commercial rights to Top Gear."
[19:11:08] <n1> "He will receive a fee to present the show as well as another wage from BBC Worldwide who own the rights to Top Gear."
[19:12:42] <n1> im sure it wont do any harm to the viewing figures when they do eventually release the postponed episodes in some form
[19:13:46] <SirFinkus> well, viewership will probably shoot up
[19:14:17] <n1> thats the problem ive had with a lot of the 'top gear/clarkson scandals' that have happened, many of them have appeared to be just pr stunts
[19:15:45] <n1> it's worked on me too, rather than just forgetting about top gear for this season, i will probably now catch the episodes ive missed so far
[19:18:40] <n1> time to plug in the midi keyboard and to something musical
[19:18:47] * SirFinkus checks to see if top gear usa is still bad
[19:18:49] <SirFinkus> it still is
[19:19:00] <n1> lol
[19:19:10] <n1> it's almost so bad it's good
[19:19:50] <SirFinkus> no, I think it passes the so bad it's good point so that it's just bad
[19:20:47] <n1> i only saw the first couple of episodes, as i understand now they dont even use a studio anymore for TG USA
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[19:21:15] <SirFinkus> it's terrible
[19:53:20] * n1 is feeling good about this music right now
[19:54:08] <n1> although i should probably find my headphones before i start annoying everyone in the street
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[21:04:13] <SirFinkus> just bought skylines, time to give her a drive
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[21:22:57] <TLA> hi¬
[21:23:09] <paulej72> hello
[21:23:10] <ciri> speak of the devil paulej72
[21:23:21] <juggs> hi TLA
[21:23:21] <ciri> well well well juggs
[21:23:55] <TLA> here was I thinking IRC was dead... how wrong am I, eh?
[21:24:54] <paulej72> ipv6 was not working correctly for ircd. It needed a rehash to fix it/
[21:25:48] <paulej72> the webchat connects via ipv6 on the backend
[21:26:49] <TLA> aha :)
[21:27:14] <TLA> fixed now, all good
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[22:22:38] <SirFinkus> n1 for the love of god don't get skylines
[22:22:45] <SirFinkus> you'd be destitute
[22:24:27] <n1> oh really?
[22:24:41] <SirFinkus> it will consume you
[22:24:49] <SirFinkus> provided you like city builders
[22:24:52] <n1> you got it today?
[22:25:09] <SirFinkus> yep
[22:25:28] <n1> i sank quite a lot of time into tropico4 as the last 'city builder' type game i played
[22:25:46] <SirFinkus> I'm generating heightmaps right now to import into the map editor
[22:27:04] <n1> i will have to check it out
[22:44:25] <n1> yeah this is a bad idea...
[22:47:53] <n1> it looks really impressive
[22:56:01] <SirFinkus> I'm importing the map from my hometown, and I just added water sources
[22:56:09] <SirFinkus> and I'm watching the rivers flow into the sea
[23:00:17] <n1> nice
[23:00:25] <paulej72> food++
[23:00:25] <Bender> karma - food: 12
[23:00:32] <paulej72> chicken++
[23:00:32] <Bender> karma - chicken: 1
[23:29:00] <paulej72> beer++
[23:29:00] <Bender> karma - beer: 29
[23:29:06] <paulej72> piss--
[23:29:06] <Bender> karma - piss: -1
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