#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-06

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[00:18:39] <geotti> yeah, I'm using it to convert an image from vmware to qcow2 format for use with openqrm, mostly
[00:21:31] <Cyprus> you're brave if using qcow2. The code is scary
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[00:47:42] <LancePodstrong> ~uid
[00:47:45] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5037, owned by mustardkingdom
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[01:10:18] <geotti> Cyprus: playing around mostly, trying things with openQRM, so not that brave
[01:19:59] <SpallsHurgenson> story time: http://www.windley.com
[01:20:00] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The CompuServe of Things
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[01:37:07] <BadCoderFinger> Hey guys
[01:37:34] <SpallsHurgenson> Eez nobuddy heah but uz cheekens!
[01:39:49] <BadCoderFinger> You are a funny looking cheeken!
[01:40:42] <SpallsHurgenson> the other chickens find me sexy
[01:42:48] <BadCoderFinger> www.spallschickendancewebcam.com
[01:43:12] <BadCoderFinger> Strike while the iron is hot!
[01:43:27] <SpallsHurgenson> that is - disappointingly - not a real website!
[01:44:59] <BadCoderFinger> I'm sure the name is free...
[01:51:16] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.randalolson.com
[01:51:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Here's Waldo: Computing the optimal search strategy for finding Waldo | Randal S. Olson
[01:53:50] <SpallsHurgenson> sadly for Skynet, an efficient "Where's John Connor" algorithm was never developed
[01:54:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rosetta Swoops in for a Close Encounter - http://sylnt.us - this-means-something
[01:56:09] <LancePodstrong> hi
[01:56:10] <ciri> hi there LancePodstrong
[01:56:32] <geotti> mail_server_administration--
[01:56:32] <Bender> karma - mail_server_administration: -1
[01:57:12] <LancePodstrong> what you running geotti?
[01:57:29] <LancePodstrong> i set up an openbsd box for my personal mail and it's been pretty easy so far
[01:57:46] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why all the best companies use Yahoo mail as their email infrastructure :)
[01:58:44] <BadCoderFinger> If we're being negative...
[01:58:49] <BadCoderFinger> msvc--
[01:58:49] <Bender> karma - msvc: -1
[01:59:16] <BadCoderFinger> It's 2015 and they haven't bloody implemented snprintf.
[01:59:34] <geotti> LancePodstrong: postfix, amavis, spamassassin, postgrey, courier... the whole monty
[01:59:51] <LancePodstrong> sounds awful
[02:00:03] <geotti> no kidding
[02:00:13] <geotti> on an 8 year old dedicated server
[02:01:18] <geotti> from time to time clients call in and say that they can't send (and/or) receive mail and I spend a few hours checking that the queue is properly flushed, 'cause the owner's "learning linux" ... *bangs head against the wall*
[02:02:07] <geotti> the same guy that prefers doing his chart of account in a self-made access crap-app and refuses to choose something proper
[02:02:11] <LancePodstrong> omg
[02:02:38] <SpallsHurgenson> have you recommended Excel? :)
[02:02:58] <geotti> oh, but he wants to "connect to a database" ...
[02:03:25] <geotti> he also has a computer store with let me check
[02:03:27] <geotti> ...
[02:03:30] <SpallsHurgenson> put the xls file on the fileserver :)
[02:05:05] <geotti> around 30 old boxes ranging from pentiums to maybe 1-2 core2duos. He also has a few SATA II pci cards in the window and an HP digi cam with 4.5 megapixels in the shelf, with a sticker "sale" on it for 298 Euros...
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[02:05:52] <juggs> does anything sell?
[02:06:13] <geotti> then, from time to time, he likes to brag about how he's an engineer and i should shut up, being just a stupid computer scientist
[02:06:15] <LancePodstrong> are you an employee of this guy or just a contractor or ?
[02:06:34] <geotti> sometimes stuff sells.. Like VHS tapes...
[02:07:02] <geotti> I know him for like 15+ years, and stay here from time to time just for the kicks of it ;)
[02:07:26] <SpallsHurgenson> probably a front for something shady :)
[02:09:39] <geotti> used to be employed (that was awful), nowadays i just experiment with e.g. openqrm, some erp solutions, openwrt routers, raspberry pis (currently for digital signage)... He does know a bit about the local bureaucracy, so my hope is that we'll be able to pull something off that will make some cash without me babysitting the project as usually
[02:10:29] <geotti> SpallsHurgenson: yeah, I wish, that way there'd be some cash ;)
[02:11:33] <geotti> main line of business for him is "repairing" computers for 80 bucks/40 minutes (i.e. run antivirus and adware scanner on it, maybe replace a component or make a backup)
[02:12:35] <geotti> it's a good place to procrastinate on writing my masters thesis...
[02:13:17] <geotti> hmm, it's getting late, my grammar is suffering
[02:13:57] <chromas> yep, your ruining irc 4 us
[02:14:12] <chromas> with you're bad grammers
[02:14:26] <SpallsHurgenson> gramma?
[02:14:50] <geotti> oh, there i thought for a second that i'm ruining the idling-game
[02:15:53] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com creepy if true
[02:15:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03City fire captain accused of installing spy gear to produce child porn | Ars Technica
[02:16:37] <geotti> great, down to 560 mails from 860.. seems that it's fixed again
[02:19:18] <geotti> ruby_on_pi-- #it's sloooooooooow!
[02:19:18] <Bender> karma - ruby_on_pi: -1
[02:19:57] <LancePodstrong> have you heard of the gem lolcat
[02:20:54] * geotti usually avoids ruby
[02:21:22] <geotti> trying to get concerto-signage.org running on a pi
[02:21:23] <SpallsHurgenson> c'mon, that's pretty much the case for anything on pi
[02:21:51] <geotti> oh it's a great baby monitor
[02:22:28] <geotti> my wife's the only mum around, who could check on our kid from her cell phone via a shoutcast stream ;)
[02:22:53] <juggs> finally got around to slinging pcbsd into a VM... it's running dog slow :( syscache-daemon is pegged at 100% CPU :(
[02:23:09] <swiss> pcbsd is just slow in general
[02:23:15] <swiss> geotti: what about the pi 2
[02:23:20] <geotti> juggs: what's the hypervisor?
[02:23:26] <geotti> swiss: didn't arrive yet
[02:23:48] <juggs> geotti, virtualbox - which is probably not helping :D
[02:23:50] <geotti> juggs: i.e. maybe driver issue?
[02:23:58] <geotti> oh...
[02:24:21] <geotti> yeah, that's like me complaining about slow ruby on a pi ;)
[02:24:28] <swiss> geotti: i didn't preorder in time
[02:25:00] <juggs> what's the bsd equiv command for linux free -m ?
[02:26:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't justify the cost of a pi given how many spare PCs I have lying around. I mean sure, it's smaller but that's usually not a problem for most of my use case situations :)
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[02:26:46] <geotti> swiss: ordered it here: http://www.rs-components.com
[02:26:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03RS Components International
[02:27:13] <geotti> SpallsHurgenson: it runs on batteries
[02:27:21] <LancePodstrong> juggs you can try top, it shows memory
[02:27:27] <juggs> aye
[02:27:33] <geotti> htop++
[02:27:33] <Bender> karma - htop: 5
[02:27:43] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but I have outlets and HATE having to worry about whether or not the battery is gonna die at a critical moment :)
[02:27:46] <swiss> geotti: http://export.rsdelivers.com
[02:28:15] <geotti> swiss: oh
[02:28:36] <geotti> swiss: you could use a resending service, if us distributors are out
[02:30:51] <LancePodstrong> how hard is hackintosh these days
[02:30:52] <ciri> doing great here
[02:31:26] <geotti> LancePodstrong: i hope it's easy, because current line of MBPs sucks balls for my use case
[02:32:05] <LancePodstrong> i've nver had a mac comp and rarely used osx
[02:32:05] <geotti> ask me again in 6-9 months and I'll prolly be able to answer that question
[02:32:13] <LancePodstrong> but seems like a good skil to build
[02:32:28] <LancePodstrong> they have a unix-based os that just works
[02:32:33] <LancePodstrong> it could almost be worth the money
[02:32:38] <LancePodstrong> for a workstation
[02:32:41] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.tonymacx86.com
[02:32:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Simplest Mac OS X Installation Guide
[02:32:51] <geotti> still waiting for skylake, before i get a new laptop
[02:33:09] <geotti> osx++
[02:33:09] <Bender> karma - osx: 8
[02:33:16] <geotti> is the best. period.
[02:33:19] <SpallsHurgenson> problem is, the end result is that you have OSX installed on your computer :-/
[02:33:56] <LancePodstrong> yeah i'm not willing to pay for it yet before i try it as my daily driver for a month
[02:34:14] <swiss> geotti: nah, i'll just wait
[02:39:29] <geotti> openqrm is pretty fucking awesome
[02:41:04] <geotti> holy cash cow, gandalf
[02:44:06] <juggs> hmm - that doesn't look sane... it's using 22% of RAM yet it already has 235MB out on Swap.... :/
[02:50:09] <geotti> juggs: headless? did you install the driver package?
[02:50:29] <geotti> http://www.virtualbox.org
[02:50:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Chapter4.Guest Additions
[02:51:11] <juggs> not headless. Guest additions got installed automagically when I did the install :)
[02:52:22] <juggs> Must be included in the pcbsd 10.1 install image and automagically recognised it was a VBox guest
[02:52:46] <LancePodstrong> crud... this webcam time lapse video creator netbook thingy has died on me a few times
[02:52:54] <juggs> Got bored with that - setting up an OpenBSD VM now :D
[02:52:58] <LancePodstrong> bad cpu/ram/mobo somewhere :(
[02:53:02] <geotti> juggs: yay!
[02:53:04] <geotti> openbsd++
[02:53:04] <Bender> karma - openbsd: 1
[02:53:31] <juggs> Maybe overheating LancePodstrong ?
[02:53:40] <LancePodstrong> not sure what your use case is juggs but i tried openbsd for the first time in like may or june of 2014 and i love it
[02:53:54] <LancePodstrong> no it's next to a window the thing is like 50 degrees :(
[02:54:23] <LancePodstrong> i'm running my mail/web with openbsd on an intel atom board
[02:54:24] <geotti> oh yeah! I got zentyal running in openqrm... this is fucking awesome!
[02:55:04] <juggs> geotti - these are my first experiments with the BSD stuff so I grabbed iso's for PCBSD, Open and Free. Just piddling around in VM for now to get a feel for them. Then I have a spare box I can throw them on once I have a vague idea which I prefer
[02:56:03] <LancePodstrong> my experience so far: i have no idea why anyone would use pcbsd. freebsd seems alright but i couldn't get it to work with the hardware in my workstation so i went back to slackware. openbsd is clearly superior for servers or anything headless though
[02:56:29] <geotti> juggs: darwin could be an option too
[02:57:37] <LancePodstrong> i would run openbsd on my desktop if it #1 could run wine and thus my old games and #2 had better flash/java support.
[02:57:49] <juggs> I'll bear it in mind geotti :D
[03:00:06] <LancePodstrong> i might do it anyway and dual boot into linux for games and when i need sites with flash, once i get some more storage space
[03:02:11] <geotti> juggs: puredarwin, if you look for it
[03:02:21] <geotti> LancePodstrong: http://en.wikipedia.org ;)
[03:02:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Darwine
[03:02:36] <juggs> Do I get a darwin award if I use that? :D
[03:02:55] <geotti> juggs: well, that depends what you do with it ;)
[03:03:06] <juggs> :D
[03:03:30] <juggs> Just working through openbsd's "pretty" installer :D
[03:04:33] <LancePodstrong> juggs if you run into problems with openbsd let me know. i had a lot of difficulty at first because i didn't know what terms to google to solve problems that openbsd handled differently than what i was familiar with
[03:04:36] <geotti> hey, just remember that form follows function
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[03:18:49] <geotti> openqrm++
[03:18:49] <Bender> karma - openqrm: 1
[03:19:16] <geotti> hybrid cloud as it was meant to be
[03:21:38] <juggs> wow, this feels like going back to my Uni days using x windows on sparc stations :D
[03:21:59] <LancePodstrong> hahaha did you tell it to start xdm on default
[03:22:03] <LancePodstrong> it's glorious isn't it
[03:22:51] <juggs> yes I did... I'm having flashbacks!
[03:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> careful, juggs, get too much *nix knowings and paulej72 will have you doing sysadmin work too.
[03:34:16] <juggs> that's why I'm of to BSD land... been getting too matey with ubuntu server recently... I might be in danger!
[03:34:59] <juggs> I can always plead ignorance :D
[03:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> just be all like "wtf, where's /usr/home?"
[03:36:30] <juggs> that'd be /tmp/var/bin/usr/home wouldn't it? I still don;t know why my systems never survive the 1st reboot
[03:37:23] <LancePodstrong> hahaha
[03:37:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly i dunno of the free versions of bsd even still use that. haven't played much with them since bsdi was still a thing
[03:37:36] <LancePodstrong> it's just in /home
[03:37:49] <juggs> I thought it was /tank/home
[03:37:58] <juggs> :D
[03:38:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, bsdi used /usr/home
[03:38:29] <juggs> I have no clue about BSD - only started meddling a few hours back. Feels old school so far. :D
[03:38:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> less devs to modernize it
[03:39:22] <BadCoderFinger> Mine has /usr/home with /home as a symlink.
[03:39:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> vindication, baby!
[03:39:55] <juggs> not necessarily a bad thing TMB
[03:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, plenty of modernizing i could have done without
[03:40:22] <BadCoderFinger> freebsd++
[03:40:22] <Bender> karma - freebsd: 5
[03:40:24] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:40:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> gnome3, qt5, upstart, systemd, wayland
[03:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> dot dot dot
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[03:41:17] <BadCoderFinger> Those are all evidence of suck.
[03:41:18] <geotti> systemd--
[03:41:18] <Bender> karma - systemd: -20
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[03:42:21] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[03:42:29] <Subsentient> http://www.youtube.com
[03:42:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bruce Almighty funny spoon scene - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[03:42:39] <juggs> It is nice to just be able to grab a linux distro and have it just work without spending hours finding drivers and the like. That's one thing I don;t miss - the twatting around just to get the system up.
[03:43:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thas the thing i remember most about bsd installs. none of the free ones supported my nic
[03:44:05] <geotti> who needs drivers...
[03:44:19] <geotti> real men...
[03:44:21] <geotti> ah, nevermind
[03:44:45] <juggs> heh just call me Putin!
[03:44:57] <geotti> openqrm++ #pure awesomeness
[03:44:57] <Bender> karma - openqrm: 2
[03:45:32] <geotti> putin is just chuck norris in disguise
[03:47:30] <juggs> I have much to learn or should that be re-learn... I swear some of the stuff I'm reading now is stuff I used to know :/
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[03:48:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i should prolly build a bsd box just for file serving or something
[03:48:14] <geotti> come on, don't be stingy juggs. Tell us about it
[03:48:37] <juggs> Nah, not sharing :P
[03:48:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep meaning to but then i remember i'm lazy
[03:48:54] <LancePodstrong> yeah i don't miss drivers either. it's nice that most everything magically works these days
[03:49:33] <geotti> plug and play, instead of bug and pray eh?
[03:50:06] <LancePodstrong> :)
[03:52:39] <geotti> rails--
[03:52:39] <Bender> karma - rails: -1
[03:53:40] <juggs> LancePodstrong, but that is at the expense of "bloat" in file sizes. Not that storage is really a challenge these days.
[03:55:44] <LancePodstrong> not that much though. most modern distros have an installer with every driver imaginable for usb boot network install clocking around <500mb. openbsd is 250
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[04:26:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Photosynthesizing Sea Slug is a Gene Thief - http://sylnt.us - Tyranid-invasion || Stable Release of VLC 1.0 For Android - http://sylnt.us - world's-most-able-media-player
[04:28:39] <chromas> Hm, I didn't even know the google store had vlc
[04:28:50] <chromas> but I've got 1.0.1
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[05:07:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.breitbart.com
[05:07:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03How the Hugo Awards Became a Battleground - Breitbart
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[05:08:39] <juggs> Thought you'd be sleeping by now TheMightyBuzzard :/
[05:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be but not quite yet
[05:10:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> urg, gotta be up in six hours and go babysit a sick nephew
[05:12:10] <arti> i detect caffeine in your future
[05:12:56] <SirFinkus> and vomit
[05:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, you ain't wrong
[05:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> need one more cigarette though
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[05:24:51] <arti> 5-6 sounds like a rough day, hopefully your friday will be pretty mellow
[05:40:18] <geotti> night ppl
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[05:44:36] <arti> nite
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[06:20:49] <juggs> nightol be well and don't set fire to the place
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[06:27:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Coca-Cola Pulls Twitter Campaign After being Tricked into Quoting "Mein Kampf" - http://sylnt.us - #MakeItHappy-is-not-so-happy,-now
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[06:40:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:40:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1030
[06:40:28] <crutchy> back on my desktop pyewta for the first time since the storm that almost set fire to my house
[06:50:54] <crutchy> ~weather LancePodstrong
[06:50:55] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[06:51:20] <crutchy> ~assimilate LancePodstrong
[06:52:29] <swiss> ~destroy crutchy
[06:52:37] <swiss> ~closethepodbaydoors
[06:53:02] <crutchy> i have class 4 armor on
[06:53:11] <ar> ~openthehatchhal
[06:53:31] <crutchy> special armor that's impenetrable to american bullets :p
[06:54:09] <ar> True Freedom armor?
[06:54:10] <ar> ;>
[06:55:37] <crutchy> same model as eric cartman uses against stan :D
[06:56:27] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[06:56:28] <exec> "There is a God, but He drinks"
[06:56:28] <exec> [Blore]
[06:57:04] <crutchy> ~confucius
[06:57:08] <exec> I wrote a script and gave it to a guy that reads scripts, and he read it and said he really likes it, but he thinks I need to rewrite it; I said, f**k that, I’ll just make a copy.
[06:57:22] <crutchy> ke?
[06:57:53] <crutchy> ~confucius
[06:57:56] <exec> Confucius say… wok is what you throw at a wabbit.
[07:24:20] <Subsentient> ~confucius
[07:24:23] <exec> Confucius say… by the time a man is wise enough to watch his step, he's too old to go anywhere.
[07:24:39] <Subsentient> ~openthepodbaydoors
[07:24:40] <exec> New members urgently required for SUICIDE CLUB, Watford area.
[07:24:41] <exec> -- Monty Python's Big Red Book
[07:24:41] <Hedonismbot> Karma - : -1
[07:24:58] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:06] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:07] <Hedonismbot> Karma - : -1
[07:25:10] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:10] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:11] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:11] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:11] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:12] <Subsentient> --
[07:25:29] <Subsentient> ++
[07:25:40] <Subsentient> ++
[07:25:40] <Hedonismbot> Karma - : 1
[07:25:43] <Subsentient> ++
[07:25:53] <ar> ++
[07:26:07] <Subsentient> ++
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[07:42:23] <chromas> !fight doc brown vs doc hammer vs doc martin
[07:42:24] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: doc brown beats doc hammer vs doc martin by 306,000,000 to 3,120,000!
[07:42:43] <chromas> Only two, eh ciri
[08:03:08] <crutchy> !fight mum vs mom
[08:03:09] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: mom beats mum by 818,000,000 to 210,000,000!
[08:03:32] <crutchy> !fight star wars vs star trek
[08:03:33] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: star wars beats star trek by 294,000,000 to 111,000,000!
[08:04:46] <crutchy> !fight russia vs united states
[08:04:47] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: united states beats russia by 3,240,000,000 to 938,000,000!
[08:07:29] <crutchy> oh wow. the propaganda is really getting desperate now
[08:07:32] <crutchy> http://au.ibtimes.com
[08:07:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Ex-Russian Spy Claimed Putin Is A Pedophile
[08:16:18] <chromas> I was just watching a documentary the other week about him and criminal activities
[08:28:22] <crutchy> i guess he fits in well with every other politician
[08:29:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Bedbugs, Scientists See a Model of Evolution - http://sylnt.us - move,-adapt,-or-die
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[10:00:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Health Insurer Anthem Didn't Encrypt Data Stolen - http://sylnt.us - who-wants-encryption-to-be-illegal,-now?
[10:34:14] <crutchy> ~eval history | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
[10:34:15] <exec> sh: 1: eval: history: not found
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[11:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:58:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1031
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[12:12:39] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[12:13:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nother spam abuse
[12:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone want to double check me on this?
[12:14:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[12:14:12] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[12:15:11] <chromas> Says Troll for me
[12:15:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, me too. or offtopic
[12:16:18] <chromas> Did you find a bug?
[12:16:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh thought you meant it should be modded troll
[12:16:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it has one troll one spam mod on it
[12:17:16] <chromas> I don't see a spam. Does that not add a label?
[12:17:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> only when it's the most common or you're an admin
[12:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> otherwise it goes through the regular pick a reason to display algorithm
[12:18:15] <chromas> It doesn't show in the mod 'breakdown' either
[12:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, weird
[12:19:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah that's a bug it not showing in the mods breakdown.
[12:20:51] <chromas> Hmm. Were the non-spam mods supposed to quit giving -1?
[12:21:27] <chromas> I saw a -1 off-topic or something a while back in figured that part didn't get implemented
[12:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope. nixed that after the first announcement. someone rightfully said changing too much at once you can't tell what's working or not.
[12:21:49] <chromas> Ah
[12:21:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> just db changes though so it can go in easily later if we decide to
[12:25:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude's mod history is like squeaky clean of bad downmods though so i doubt it was malicious
[12:31:01] <chromas> You could add blanks around the spam entry in the mod list
[12:31:42] <chromas> Or maybe it's too much work with the way it's generated
[12:32:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> thinking just undo it without banning him but ima let someone else decide
[12:32:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> the bug i got no idea on and not going to bother thinking on while i'm on leave
[13:12:35] <crutchy> there's a mod breakdown?
[13:15:09] <crutchy> do volunteers get leave?
[13:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> they do if they say i'm taking leave
[13:33:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Computational Demonology - MIT to Give Course on Magic and Technology - http://sylnt.us - MIT-on-MAT
[13:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> like nc is on an extended one right now
[13:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> and yeah there's a mod breakdown under every comment if you hit the comment id out beside the time of the comment
[13:39:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, fun. whitehouse takes the exact same position as rand paul on vaccination and nobody's calling them anti-vax
[13:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be nice to own the entire media
[13:41:37] <chromas> Vaccinations cause beta
[13:41:54] <chromas> And poutine
[13:42:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> poutine is yummy though
[13:42:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> and betas aren't bad as long as you don't put other fish in with them
[13:42:34] <chromas> poutine-- isn't, though
[13:42:34] <Bender> karma - poutine: -380
[13:43:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, that's oscars. betas are little wuss fish. fuck betas
[14:17:27] <ar> https://translate.google.com - hehe
[14:17:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Google Translate
[14:18:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
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[14:28:38] <Bytram> g'day all!
[14:28:39] <ciri> hi there Bytram
[14:28:44] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:28:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1032
[14:28:45] <TheMightyLaptop> mornin
[14:28:49] <Bytram> nice!
[14:28:51] <Bytram> !uid
[14:28:52] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[14:28:54] <Bytram> LOL
[14:29:00] <TheMightyLaptop> ~uid
[14:29:01] * Bytram kicks bender
[14:29:02] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5037, owned by mustardkingdom
[14:29:07] <Bytram> nicer!
[14:29:23] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: morning!
[14:29:29] <Bytram> might bit chilly here today
[14:29:38] <Bytram> ~weather Portland, Maine
[14:29:39] <exec> Weather for Portland, ME, USA - currently 4°F / -16°C, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 4 mph, humidity 64% - Friday clear (10°F-21°F / -12°C--6°C), Saturday chance of snow showers (3°F-23°F / -16°C--5°C), Sunday snow showers (9°F-16°F / -13°C--9°C), Monday chance of snow (12°F-27°F / -11°C--3°C) - source: Google
[14:29:50] <TheMightyLaptop> ~weather
[14:29:51] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[14:30:00] <TheMightyLaptop> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[14:30:02] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 32°F / 0°C, clear, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 87% - Friday partly cloudy (37°F-63°F / 3°C-17°C), Saturday partly cloudy (41°F-70°F / 5°C-21°C), Sunday partly cloudy (41°F-72°F / 5°C-22°C), Monday clear (45°F-77°F / 7°C-25°C) - source: Google
[14:30:27] <TheMightyLaptop> thas better. you're sposed to be popcicles compared to us.
[14:30:36] <Bytram> we've had much more snow this year, so far, than I remember in a long time.
[14:30:45] * Bytram feels more like a corpsicle
[14:30:47] <TheMightyLaptop> none here worth speaking of
[14:31:00] <Bytram> we've got *plenty*! want some?
[14:31:08] <TheMightyLaptop> no thanks. hard to fish in.
[14:31:15] <TheMightyLaptop> harder to move in.
[14:31:16] <Bytram> LOL!
[14:31:28] * Bytram offers TheMightyLaptop a pair of snowshoes
[14:31:31] * TheMightyLaptop needs boxes
[14:32:16] <Bytram> order something on-line that is lightweight and bulky and cheap ... and keep the boxes
[14:32:23] <Bytram> =)
[14:33:08] <TheMightyLaptop> meh, figure i'll just go by the liquor store
[14:33:18] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: s/by/buy/
[14:33:18] <sedctl> <Bytram> <TheMightyLaptop> meh, figure i'll just go buy the liquor store
[14:33:30] <TheMightyLaptop> fine idea also
[14:33:45] <Bytram> it'll slow your packing, but it might be more enjoyable... until the hangover hits, that is.
[14:33:58] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, too old to avoid those anymore
[14:33:59] <Bytram> 'cept for the boxes, how goes the packing.
[14:34:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stable Release of VLC 1.0 for Android - http://sylnt.us - world's-most-able-media-player || Coca-Cola Pulls Twitter Campaign after being Tricked into Quoting "Mein Kampf" - http://sylnt.us - #MakeItHappy-is-not-so-happy,-now
[14:34:07] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:34:11] <TheMightyLaptop> slowly
[14:34:15] <Bytram> yeah.
[14:34:31] <Bytram> hardest part for me is to NOT read any of the stuff that I want to put in a box
[14:34:50] <Bytram> also, memories.
[14:35:02] <Bytram> saw in the log we'd had a spam mod?
[14:35:12] <Bytram> s/log/channel log/
[14:35:12] <sedctl> <Bytram> saw in the channel log we'd had a spam mod?
[14:35:17] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[14:35:26] <Bytram> is that the first one?
[14:35:26] <TheMightyLaptop> bad one as well
[14:35:35] <Bytram> agreed.
[14:35:37] * LancePodstrong groggily opens crusty eyelids
[14:35:37] <TheMightyLaptop> second. first was more or less used correctly.
[14:36:02] * Bytram notes a familiarity with the first mod's nick
[14:36:23] <Bytram> hmmm, possible other option?
[14:36:33] <TheMightyLaptop> my personal feelins on it is give it just an unspam and comment below it that if something can be categorized as offtopic or troll it shouldn't be modded spam
[14:36:35] <Bytram> unspam-and-email-warning?
[14:36:48] <Bytram> ur idea is easier
[14:37:00] <Bytram> also serves as a caution to all
[14:37:13] <Bytram> you wanna be the 'bad cop'?
[14:37:14] <TheMightyLaptop> checked the guy's mod history, he's not a habitual downmodder
[14:37:23] <Bytram> lemme check.... brb
[14:39:23] <Bytram> still lookijng, but... we've had another spam mod? linky please?
[14:39:38] <TheMightyLaptop> erm, have we?
[14:40:04] <TheMightyLaptop> on the laptop here so not really in a position to check
[14:40:09] <Bytram> "<TheMightyLaptop> second. first was more or less used correctly."
[14:40:24] <Bytram> I was referring to your earlier comment
[14:40:57] <TheMightyLaptop> oh, yeah, i'll link it a bit later if you like. was some utterly useless offtopic nonsense. legit enough to leave it be.
[14:41:28] <Bytram> k. more like a 'stream of unconsciousness' ??
[14:42:13] <TheMightyLaptop> nah, just completely worthless beyond what offtopic and troll could cover
[14:42:44] <Bytram> seems his downmods weren't *totally* off, though seems to be unfamiliar with the other site's long history of Natalie Portman memes
[14:42:53] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[14:42:57] <Bytram> o/w last five troll mods were fine
[14:43:06] <Bytram> young 'uns
[14:43:12] <TheMightyLaptop> ya
[14:43:16] * Bytram was a young 'un once
[14:43:33] <TheMightyLaptop> i must've been but i've slept since then
[14:43:34] <chromas> How about a wtf?! mod label
[14:43:34] <ciri> don't ask me!
[14:43:47] <TheMightyLaptop> heh
[14:43:59] <TheMightyLaptop> nah, folks would want to get modded that
[14:44:14] <chromas> It's the new Funny
[14:44:58] <Bytram> what the funny?
[14:46:10] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: I concur with your assessment of that comment not being a spam and with your suggested response -- go for it!
[14:46:18] <LancePodstrong> anyone know off top their head how long a usb cable can be within spec? 50ft? 100?
[14:46:28] <Bytram> what speed?
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[14:46:50] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: btw, good morning!
[14:46:57] <Bytram> janrinok: g'day!
[14:47:05] <Bytram> ~weather minneapolis
[14:47:06] <exec> Weather for Minneapolis, MN, USA - currently 19°F / -7°C, overcast, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 55% - Friday mostly cloudy (14°F-32°F / -10°C-0°C), Saturday chance of ice (23°F-37°F / -5°C-3°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (16°F-34°F / -9°C-1°C), Monday partly cloudy (19°F-30°F / -7°C--1°C) - source: Google
[14:47:21] <TheMightyLaptop> Bytram, rather you or janrinok or someone else do it. i don't wanna be the guy who implemented the mod and polices it both.
[14:47:41] <TheMightyLaptop> mornin, janrinok
[14:47:53] <Bytram> good point.
[14:47:59] <LancePodstrong> oh whatever. usb1.1 would be acceptable
[14:48:03] <LancePodstrong> 2.0 better
[14:48:14] * Bytram has been able to pretty much play the 'good cop' role and would like to continue same.
[14:48:15] <TheMightyLaptop> LancePodstrong, ten meters i believe
[14:48:46] <TheMightyLaptop> Bytram, not banning or busting anyone's balls, s'okay to be polite about it.
[14:48:52] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: better question: what are you trying to do, and how would you know if the cable was too long? what problems would manifest?
[14:49:03] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: nod nod
[14:49:57] <TheMightyLaptop> i really need a proper beep sound file. i grabbed the first one in my home directory for nick alert on the laptop here and it's the google chick's voice saying "your armpits feel warm"
[14:50:15] <TheMightyLaptop> think i was testing text to speech and saved the sound file
[14:50:15] * Bytram is not familiar with that one
[14:50:35] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: press "^G" in a CMD.exe window and record the sound
[14:50:54] <TheMightyLaptop> linux lappy
[14:51:05] <Bytram> ah.
[14:51:16] <TheMightyLaptop> just don't have my ssh keys and such from my desktop on it so can't get into the sn servers
[14:51:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:51:38] <Bytram> hmmm,
[14:51:58] <TheMightyLaptop> may text to speech her saying "beep"
[14:52:14] <Bytram> btw, the spam-modded comment was posted by an AC -- unlikely the spam-modder would see any comment in reply
[14:52:23] * Bytram has an idea on beep sound... brb
[14:53:38] <LancePodstrong> thanks
[14:54:03] <LancePodstrong> the netbook i was having take pics every minute with a webcam to compile time lapse vids has proven itself unstable
[14:54:19] <LancePodstrong> i have a nice server on 24x7 anyway so if i could route the webcam to it i would just set it up to do the task
[14:54:30] <LancePodstrong> but it's a ways away from where i want the camera
[14:54:40] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: ahhh, got it.
[14:54:57] <TheMightyLaptop> you can set motion up to do exactly that
[14:55:49] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: move the server! ;)
[14:56:55] <LancePodstrong> i'm going to have to ponder the best solution for a while
[14:57:42] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: I've got a .wav file I could send you, but I'm actually trying to remember where XP keeps its sound files
[14:57:47] <TheMightyLaptop> aight, got a beep sound set up
[14:58:36] <chromas> How about the classic windows 95 alert sound?
[14:58:56] <TheMightyLaptop> nah, too much effort now that it's already beeping
[14:59:46] <chromas> It was some sort of string hit that startled me out of my chair every time (using recent speakers)
[15:00:15] <Bytram> chromas: can't remember that one
[15:00:56] <TheMightyLaptop> believe i'll go check on the nephew, chop a few baddies, and get busy for the day.
[15:02:36] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: I unspammed the comment.
[15:02:59] <Bytram> since that *removes* the spam mod from the system, there's really no indication that it ever was spam modded, right?
[15:03:23] <Bytram> and, since it was an AC who had posted, any comment would prolly go unnoticed....
[15:03:37] <Bytram> so, if you're okay with it, I'll just leave it at that.
[15:04:35] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[15:04:40] <Bytram> kewel!
[15:04:53] <janrinok> !uid
[15:04:54] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[15:05:00] <TheMightyLaptop> ~uid
[15:05:02] <Bytram> good luck with da baddies & have a great day!
[15:05:04] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5037, owned by mustardkingdom
[15:05:19] * Bytram goes to update his zoo
[15:06:58] * chromas gives Bytram chord.wav
[15:07:13] <LancePodstrong> i think i know the sound you mean chromas
[15:07:16] <LancePodstrong> jarring indeed
[15:07:43] * Bytram goes to look for chord.wav
[15:08:07] <Bytram> hmmm, where *does* windows keep its .wav files?
[15:10:47] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: back to USB.... what kind of distance are you dealing with?
[15:10:49] <chromas> Is it not in \windows\media?
[15:11:28] <Bytram> chromas: yup. just found it. not that jarring to me, but I have volume turned down quite a bit
[15:11:43] <LancePodstrong> not really sure Bytram, 30-50 feet probably
[15:12:13] <LancePodstrong> i'd have to figure out where to plcae the cam and then how to route the cable
[15:12:16] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: any chance you could just network the lappy to the server? 50 feet should be no problem at all with cat5
[15:12:31] <Bytram> or even wireless, for that matter
[15:12:35] <LancePodstrong> well that's how i had it set up, but the laptop is unstable and wants to freeze all the time
[15:12:48] <Bytram> ahhhhh.... now I get it.
[15:12:49] <LancePodstrong> so i just need to remove laptop from picture and hook webcam up to server. send laptop to the great recycling plant
[15:13:06] <Bytram> what kind of specs does the lappy have?
[15:13:32] <LancePodstrong> single core intel atom 1.6ghz, 1gb ram, 250gb 5400rpm hd
[15:13:39] <LancePodstrong> nothing fancy but it draws like 10w
[15:13:58] <LancePodstrong> the power supply is only rated to 30w and it can charge the bat tery and run the comp at the same time
[15:14:14] <Bytram> nice
[15:14:33] <Bytram> acer?
[15:14:49] <LancePodstrong> i think i need to run memtest on it for a few days, i guess it's possible it's the operating system
[15:14:53] <LancePodstrong> toshiba nb305
[15:15:03] <Bytram> nod nod, also could be dust accumulation
[15:15:06] <Bytram> aha
[15:15:10] <LancePodstrong> lol yes very possible
[15:15:24] <Bytram> hey! how bout getting a RPi?
[15:15:40] <janrinok> Bytram: I'm here - it makes it easier
[15:15:48] <LancePodstrong> i've thought aboutt it, it's a perfect use case for one
[15:15:52] <Bytram> plug webcam into usb port, and network to the ethernet port
[15:16:01] <janrinok> hi LancePodstrong, chromas and TheMightyLaptop
[15:16:08] <Bytram> low power, cheap, and all that
[15:16:19] <LancePodstrong> alrighty friends, my partner is ready, time to go fuck up some demons in diablo2
[15:16:22] <LancePodstrong> i'll be back
[15:16:39] <Bytram> hmmm, I'd think there'd be others who would want to, effectively, run USB over ethernet.
[15:16:50] <Bytram> LancePodstrong: have fun
[15:17:13] <Bytram> janrinok: welcome!
[15:17:25] <LancePodstrong> hi bye janrinok
[15:17:26] <ciri> hi LancePodstrong
[15:17:57] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:17:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1033
[15:18:10] <janrinok> I get the feeling that I should know LancePodstrong by another nick - but I haven't worked it out yet :)
[15:19:16] <Bytram> us nerds sound all alike =)
[15:19:29] <janrinok> ...but with accents
[15:19:35] <Bytram> moi?
[15:20:03] <janrinok> oui, toi!
[15:21:10] <Bytram> keine probleme, mein freund!
[15:21:23] <janrinok> das ist stimmt!
[15:22:07] <janrinok> ya nye znayu kto on
[15:23:32] <Bytram> Καλι Νιχτε!
[15:24:02] <janrinok> well done - I don't speak that one!
[15:25:12] <Bytram> Εϕκεριζω
[15:26:04] <Bytram> I can read Greek much better than I can listen or write, and even then, only ancient greek with a couple pleasantries in current-day Greek
[15:26:59] * Bytram has a very cosmopolitan environment where he works and pretty much every day has a chance to greet someone in non-english
[15:27:02] <janrinok> ah, that's why Google is struggling with it perhaps
[15:27:16] <Bytram> prolly.
[15:27:43] <Bytram> also, there are no accent marks in that which is prolly causing troubles, and I spelled it phonetically from memory, so could be misspelled, too.
[15:28:00] <Bytram> the first was supposed to be "good afternoon" and the latter, "thank you"
[15:29:10] <Bytram> try this, instead: Εϕκεριστω
[15:32:07] <Bytram> I wasn't *too* far off: Ευχαριστώ
[15:33:09] <Bytram> Annnnd: Καλησπέρα = good afternoon
[15:33:26] <LancePodstrong> cannabis++
[15:33:26] <Bender> karma - cannabis: 5
[15:34:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Here’s Waldo: Computing the Optimal Search Strategy for Finding Waldo - http://sylnt.us - it-doesn't-get-any-better-than-this
[15:39:10] <Bytram> afk, back in a while
[15:39:37] <janrinok> sry - someone at the door, I'm back now
[15:40:42] <janrinok> next person to arrive will be the nurse to help put S back to bed
[15:49:10] <Bytram> back
[15:50:14] <Bytram> janrinok: we had our first mis-modded spam-mod -- after consulting with TMB, I marked it as non-spam. It was applied to an AC comment so no real harm done.
[15:50:43] <Bytram> was wondering if an e-mail to the modder to warn them of the mistake might be a good idea?
[15:52:33] * Bytram is trying to find the comment link
[15:59:38] * Bytram indirectly refers to it by linking to channel history: http://logs.sylnt.us
[15:59:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-06
[16:00:08] * Bytram notes specifically at: http://logs.sylnt.us
[16:00:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-06
[16:01:02] <janrinok> Bytram: looking
[16:01:09] <Bytram> janrinok: pm
[16:04:49] * Bytram needs to get ready to head out for the day... will check back in in about a half hour or so.
[16:04:59] <Bytram> afk
[16:25:26] <Bytram> ugh. printer is acting flakey -- likely need to reboot. cya all later!
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[17:36:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The World’s Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who is Going Broke - http://sylnt.us - dedication-is-not-enough
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[19:37:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RadioShack: Slowest Corporate Death in History? - http://sylnt.us - they-took-their-time-getting-there
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[22:21:59] <SoyGuest88477> Oh, crap. I can't remember my password. lol
[22:22:27] <crutchy> i put mine in a text file. otherwise i would have forgotten too :p
[22:22:37] <SoyGuest88477> Anyone know who I can ping for a pw reset?
[22:23:06] <crutchy> paulej72 is prolly the irc server guru nowadays
[22:23:56] <crutchy> or juggs
[22:24:24] <chromas> /ns sendpass nick
[22:36:10] <SoyGuest88477> Thanks peeps
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[22:40:39] <crutchy> keeping your password in a text file is much more secure than relying on nickserv!
[22:41:01] <crutchy> hmm
[22:59:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just use the same one as on my luggage
[23:05:25] <crutchy> hunter2?
[23:05:41] <crutchy> didn't realize you could get hunter2 luggage
[23:06:39] <crutchy> if we all use the same password, then nobody will forget
[23:06:53] <crutchy> and all the worlds problems would be solved :p
[23:41:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Media Asks: "Does Posting A Horrific Video Serve a Legitimate Journalistic Purpose?" - http://sylnt.us - depends-which-side-you-are-on
[23:51:16] <chromas> As long as the study don't show genitalia or female nipples it's okay
[23:51:32] <chromas> s/study/they/
[23:51:32] <sedctl> <chromas> As long as the they don't show genitalia or female nipples it's okay
[23:54:31] * crutchy is in a script-tweaking mood
[23:54:47] <crutchy> s/a/r/2
[23:54:47] <sedctl> <crutchy> is in a script-twerking mood
[23:55:23] <chromas> editing_ sentences_ with touchscreen_keyboard--
[23:55:33] <chromas> editing_ sentences_with_touchscreen_keyboard--
[23:55:46] <crutchy> ew. you stuck on a phone?
[23:55:48] <chromas> fuggin' spaces
[23:56:31] <chromas> It's alright as long as I don't make a Mistral
[23:57:19] <crutchy> i hate it when i make mistrals
[23:58:06] <crutchy> tmb, did you add the "So, we should be hearing the mainstream media mocking the President for being an anti-vaxer any minute now, right?" to the end of the original vaccination submission?
[23:58:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, was my submission, so yeah
[23:59:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> see my name on a story it's a safe bet it's my sub since i ain't an editor
[23:59:34] <crutchy> ah. one of my submissions was doctored with flamebait last week
[23:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh?
[23:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'whatcha get for submitting by bot =P