#Soylent | Logs for 2015-01-09

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[23:59:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i paid for my own food. the govt didn't buy it for me. =P
[23:59:21] <juggs> Short days are the pits though - I'd hate live any further north than I do
[23:58:39] <juggs> That's quite a Nordic / Scandi solution
[23:58:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll go have some foods. that and cleanup should shave an hour off how long i have to stay awake.
[23:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there's always the scottish solution. drink scotch.
[23:52:40] <juggs> I swear, the person that comes up with the cure for Northern Hemisphere January general shittiness is going to be a very rich person. It's just something to get through at the moment.
[23:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. no tv cause mid-season break and no fishing cause fuck that it's cold
[23:50:00] <juggs> Welcome to January
[23:48:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, i'm bored.
[23:46:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Appeals Court Orders Government To Return Non-Child Porn Files To Convicted Man - http://sylnt.us - OK-here's-your-adult-porn....
[23:43:43] <juggs> I wish I hadn't brought that up. I probably summoned him
[23:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm happy with my junk size. whether they are or not isn't my problem.
[23:41:41] <juggs> Next thing you know you'll be buying extenders or something
[23:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> french press is right out because, well, french.
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[23:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> been thinking of getting an aeropress but i find them mildly disturbing in their similarity to swedish made penis enlarger pumps
[23:37:04] <juggs> and make tea too
[23:35:33] <crutchy> might be expected to make my own this time :p
[23:35:13] <crutchy> need moar coffee
[23:35:02] <crutchy> i'm always confused
[23:34:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> on a happier note, firefly online has a target date of this spring
[23:34:49] <juggs> You seem confused crutchy
[23:34:14] <juggs> Yah - need to not mess those two up
[23:34:08] <crutchy> eh?
[23:33:49] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3gentile: 1. Jewish term for someone who is not a Jew 2. Mormon term for someone who is not a Mormon.
[23:33:48] <juggs> ~define gentile
[23:33:45] <exec> ~gentile: unable to find definition
[23:33:33] <juggs> ~define ~gentile
[23:32:26] <crutchy> aww not even any sexual references?
[23:32:13] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3genteel: Polite,refined or respectable,often in an affected or ostentatious way
[23:32:12] <crutchy> ~define genteel
[23:31:58] <juggs> I looked it up - yeh - genteel
[23:30:50] <juggs> do I mean "genteel" ? hmmph, won't remember to look that up
[23:30:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds very firefly
[23:29:58] <juggs> Put some music on and look at some planets on the way :D
[23:29:12] <juggs> depends on my mood. I have one commander with a freighter for doing gentile cargo runs, then another with a fast aggressive ship for doing bounties. Today I am in a float about doing cargo, peaceful shit mood.
[23:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> bonus points if you pirate the game
[23:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> assassin's creed iv, all the pirating you could want.
[23:27:25] <crutchy> i prefer to mow down zerglings
[23:26:59] * juggs earns $$$ shipping cargo and passengers across a galaxy far far away. Seems real enough to me
[23:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> usually when i've been drinking cappuccino in the same volumes that i normally drink coffee
[23:26:40] <crutchy> ciri is a butt pirate
[23:26:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i only ever get corner of the eye hallucinations
[23:25:54] <Bender> karma - coffee_induced_alternate_reality: 1
[23:25:54] <crutchy> coffee_induced_alternate_reality++
[23:25:39] <Bender> karma - reality: -2
[23:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> reality--
[23:25:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 964
[23:25:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:25:31] <Bender> karma - reality: -1
[23:25:31] <crutchy> reality--
[23:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, reality just keeps shitting on my dream of being a pirate.
[23:24:41] <crutchy> noice
[23:24:39] <juggs> they're
[23:24:37] <crutchy> government sanctioned piracy
[23:24:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> go capture iranian oil tankers or something.
[23:24:31] <juggs> these things just about manage to limp across the med - their not the kind of thing you're going to moor up mid-atlantic and setup a 300' pirate radio mast one :D
[23:24:07] <crutchy> ah
[23:23:58] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Letter_of_marque: In the days of fighting sail, a letter of marque and reprisal was a government license authorizing a person (known as a privateer) to attack and capture enemy vessels and bring them before admiralty c...
[23:23:52] <crutchy> ~define letter of marque
[23:23:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, ima wait till the republicans get it office then petition for a letter of marque
[23:23:25] <crutchy> or drop a bunch of anchors and declare your independent sovereign nationality
[23:22:50] <ciri> somewhere out on the WEB i guess juggs
[23:22:49] <juggs> where you going to dock? Somalia?
[23:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> end of life might make sense. i'd still turn it into a pirate ship before i just gave it up though.
[23:21:50] <juggs> TMB - these are mostly end of life ferries or cargo ships. If you are pulling $2000+ per refugee and stack a few hundred in and avoid scrappage fees... it makes sense
[23:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, ships is worth moneys. wtf do they think they're gonna get in italy or wherever that's worth more than selling the ship?
[23:20:40] <crutchy> that's what our navy and coast guard is for... shooting up boats full of illegal immigrants :p
[23:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> who the hell abandons a perfectly good ship?
[23:18:56] <juggs> I'm sure that's how it happens :D
[23:18:42] <juggs> Seems the refugees manage to break out of their cargo hold confinement a few hundred miles of the coast and learn to use the ship's radio too.
[23:12:25] <juggs> Interesting seeing the lastest trend for boat people headed to Europe - crew sets auto-pilot toward Italy or wherever, then debunks in a lifeboat. Now, whether the crew actually debunks, or just assimilates into the refugee passengers is another question. Leaves the coastguard to board the ship and pilot it in.
[23:05:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop Bear - Australian Museum
[23:05:13] <crutchy> http://australianmuseum.net.au
[23:05:05] <crutchy> "Thylarctos plummetus" :D
[23:04:22] <crutchy> scare the shit out of everyone so they don't want to come here :D
[23:04:07] <crutchy> maybe its part of the government's 'stop the boat people' policy
[23:02:55] <juggs> it has been quite a concerted effort :D
[23:02:25] <crutchy> i'm getting a sense why tourists might think these things are real
[23:01:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop bears target tourists, study says - Australian Geographic
[23:01:05] <crutchy> http://www.australiangeographic.com.au
[23:00:59] <juggs> I keep drop bears as live food for my drop tigers and drop lions
[23:00:57] <crutchy> lmao "Drop bears are less likely to attack people with Australian accents"
[23:00:18] * crutchy pets his drop bear
[23:00:09] <crutchy> drop bears ARE real!
[22:59:47] <crutchy> that's prolly not the best advice :p
[22:59:35] <crutchy> "She told me to go talk to some Australians about it then to come back to her."
[22:59:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop Bear : australia
[22:59:17] <crutchy> http://www.reddit.com
[22:58:27] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[22:58:26] <crutchy> lol no wonder our tourism is fukked
[22:58:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop Bear Attack Caught on Film - New Zealander Mauled - YouTube
[22:58:15] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[22:56:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly all their little brains can handle what with spending 98% of their brainpower on evil plots
[22:55:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yak
[22:55:11] <crutchy> our drop bears are experienced in php torture as well
[22:54:39] <crutchy> or all of the above
[22:54:27] <Bender> Added quote 340
[22:54:27] <crutchy> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[22:54:19] <crutchy> lmao
[22:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. everything down there is either poisonous, wants to eat me, both, or writes php
[22:53:38] <crutchy> i'd recommend staying away from major cities, cos they look like most other citiees
[22:52:40] <juggs> I'll make it down to that side of the globe one day
[22:51:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, you personally set tourism back by five years. everyone in oz say "thanks, crutchy"
[22:51:51] <crutchy> that clacking is the sound of the dreaded monster viper sharpening its fangs
[22:50:25] <crutchy> dammit now there's gunna be more rumors :p
[22:50:15] <juggs> Did it have eucalyptus leaves in the spokes to make a menacing clacking noise?
[22:50:10] <crutchy> hahah
[22:49:55] <juggs> a koala on a pushbike? That is scary!
[22:49:01] <crutchy> it chased after and attacked my brother's friend on a pushbike (years ago)
[22:48:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it was pretty quality at that.
[22:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> only oz could have teddy bears that want to mangle you.
[22:48:24] <juggs> good nap TMB?
[22:48:21] <crutchy> i've only heard of one attack by one of their lesser known koala cousins
[22:47:34] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[22:47:34] <crutchy> lol
[22:47:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yanks all think drop bears are cute. we haven't had to experience the surprise face eating.
[22:46:25] <juggs> people will believe anything
[22:46:00] <crutchy> someone at work mentioned something about drop bears being a not-insignificant factor in potentially lost tourism to this country
[22:45:02] <crutchy> dunno. i'll have to confer with my wombat :p
[22:44:10] <juggs> or is it fair dinkum
[22:43:57] <juggs> fair enough
[22:43:34] <crutchy> she gets a lot of cups of tea in return
[22:42:45] <juggs> Let's you get away with putting off mowing the lawn AND makes coffee - golden :D
[22:42:26] <crutchy> should i be disturbed that someone upped my wife here before i did?
[22:41:33] <Bender> karma - mrs_crutchy: 2
[22:41:33] <crutchy> mrs_crutchy++
[22:41:28] <crutchy> yeah i reckon
[22:41:15] <juggs> underrated it seems :D
[22:41:07] <Bender> karma - mrs_crutchy: 1
[22:41:07] <juggs> mrs_crutchy++
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[22:38:33] <crutchy> for some reason i find myself looking for maps of fictional cities
[22:37:13] <crutchy> yay wifey making coffee :D
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[22:26:45] <juggs> oolite is very much a remake of the original elite with better graphics and extensibility with add-ons
[22:25:55] <crutchy> hmm actually looks like oolite is not really like spiral arm... just this screenshot reminded me of SA http://www.oolite.org
[22:25:22] <juggs> Never played that one
[22:24:55] <Landon> oh man, Freelancer was the beezus kneezus when it came out
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[22:15:07] <juggs> Yah, I probably mentioned it before. Haven't played in a while. It's one of those games I come back to now and then.
[22:13:52] <crutchy> actually you might have mentioned that ages ago cos i vaguely remember mentioning i programmed a client for what might be a similarish old play by email game called spiralarm
[22:13:07] <juggs> Tis fun if you're into that kinda thing
[22:12:45] <crutchy> looks cool
[22:12:40] <juggs> GPL too :D
[22:12:20] <juggs> Beautified Elite
[22:11:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Oolite: an open-world space opera
[22:11:57] <juggs> http://www.oolite.org
[22:11:52] <crutchy> crutchy is ok. bit groggy still. needs coffee
[22:11:37] <crutchy> oolite?
[22:11:18] <juggs> how's crutchy?
[22:10:42] <juggs> juggs is fine today thanks - settled in with a cold beer and a monumental trade run in oolite
[22:10:01] <crutchy> damn upside down people
[22:09:51] <crutchy> noticed i missed bytram... twice
[22:09:36] <crutchy> how's juggs today?
[22:08:31] <exec> Saturday, 10 January 2015 @ 9:08 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[22:08:30] <crutchy> need to get a kettle with systemd
[22:08:29] <juggs> ~time crutchy
[22:07:57] <juggs> magicpktctl send mrs_crutchy
[22:07:25] <crutchy> need to make noise :p
[22:07:14] <crutchy> she's still asleep :(
[22:07:00] <juggs> sudo mrs crutchy bring coffee
[22:06:42] <crutchy> ooh i could really use a coffee now. unfortunately it would require somehow extracting myself off the couch
[22:05:57] <crutchy> damn terminology
[22:05:48] <Bender> karma - sleep: 14
[22:05:47] <crutchy> sleep++
[22:05:45] <crutchy> ah
[22:05:29] <Bender> karma - sleep: 13
[22:05:29] <juggs> sleep++
[22:05:26] <Bender> karma - naps: 6
[22:05:26] <juggs> naps++
[22:04:15] <crutchy> coffee be damned.. we need naps!
[22:02:06] <Bender> karma - naps: 5
[22:02:06] <mechanicjay> naps++
[22:02:03] <mechanicjay> srsly!
[22:01:19] <crutchy> only 4!?
[22:01:05] <Bender> karma - naps: 4
[22:01:05] <crutchy> naps++
[21:58:34] <juggs> SoylentNews theme tune - .cheesy cover of Faith No More - We Care A Lot. Expect our version will be "We Nap A Lot" :D
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[21:45:20] <Bytram> time for me to take a nap, as well.
[21:44:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Will Monitor Seahawks Stadium For Fan-Induced Earthquakes - http://sylnt.us - please-cheer-quietly-and-don't-stamp-your-feet
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[20:09:10] <Bytram> btw, VT100 looks GREAT!!!
[20:08:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: if you're still here -- when we upgrade to the new release, will the DB be updated to support the full UTF-8 character set? (IIRC, we are limited to, at most, 3-octet UTF-8 chars because of settings in/on the DB.)
[20:03:36] <Bytram> k
[20:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> drop me a note in #dev if you find anything. going to have a nap.
[20:01:24] * Bytram scurries over to dev to take a look
[20:01:10] * Bytram almost choked on his dinner!
[20:01:03] <Bytram> GAK!
[20:00:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, the vt100 theme is new
[20:00:51] * Bytram really likes that one?
[20:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything else would take days of back and forth to hammer out most likely.
[20:00:42] <Bytram> hmm, new themes. besides OMG Pownies?
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[19:59:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> with this little time to poke at things, i'd say find things in the new themes that don't look up to snuff.
[19:58:15] <Bytram> what should I pay attention to?
[19:58:02] <Bytram> kewel
[19:57:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we're mostly good though
[19:57:24] <Bytram> aha.
[19:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's going live tomorrow or the day after, so not especially.
[19:55:29] <Bytram> nogrb
[19:55:27] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so, I've come out from under the holiday crunch for a bit... anything I should bang on for the next couple hours?
[19:54:23] <Bytram> =)
[19:54:21] <Bytram> ~lace
[19:54:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good. nothing that was my problem then.
[19:54:13] <chromas> ~leather
[19:54:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nothin that I noticed
[19:53:51] <chromas> and the site burned down
[19:53:40] <chromas> coffee variables were incrememented
[19:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i miss anything good whilst i was gaming away the morning?
[19:50:13] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 60°F / 16°C, overcast, wind SW at 24 mph, humidity 87% - Friday partly cloudy (53°F-57°F / 12°C-14°C), Saturday chance of rain (38°F-55°F / 3°C-13°C), Sunday clear (45°F-47°F / 7°C-8°C), Monday rain (44°F-53°F / 7°C-12°C) - source: Google
[19:50:11] <juggs> ~weather
[19:49:12] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 32°F / 0°C, clear, wind N at 15 mph, humidity 41% - Friday clear (19°F-34°F / -7°C-1°C), Saturday partly cloudy (28°F-36°F / -2°C-2°C), Sunday chance of ice (37°F-41°F / 3°C-5°C), Monday mostly cloudy (30°F-39°F / -1°C-4°C) - source: Google
[19:49:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[19:46:35] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 29°F / -2°C, scattered clouds, wind S at 11 mph, humidity 55% - Friday snow showers (16°F-34°F / -9°C-1°C), Saturday clear (14°F-23°F / -10°C--5°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (28°F-32°F / -2°C-0°C), Monday chance of snow (25°F-37°F / -4°C-3°C) - source: Google
[19:46:34] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[19:46:25] <chromas> if only they had guns
[19:43:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DHS Watchdog Says Border Patrol's Drones Are Expensive, Useless. - http://sylnt.us - but,-but,-they're-sexy
[19:42:29] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 213
[19:42:29] <Bytram> ++coffee
[19:42:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 963
[19:42:22] <Bytram> coffee++
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[18:12:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia Demos a Car Computer Trained with "Deep Learning" - http://sylnt.us - deep-driving
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[15:40:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Hard Drive Breakthrough - http://sylnt.us - wave-function
[14:12:52] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 212
[14:12:52] <crutchy> ++coffee
[13:50:22] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:50:22] <crutchy> $tell chromas $burrito aqu4
[13:49:41] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:49:41] <crutchy> $tell chromas i'm a pooper scooper
[13:49:20] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:49:20] <crutchy> $tell chromas, http://soylentnews.org check Hedonismbot title output
[13:48:57] <crutchy> erm
[13:48:38] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:48:38] <crutchy> $tell chromas, http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:22] <crutchy> hmm
[13:47:42] <crutchy> and why the hell am i still up at 1am?
[13:46:33] <crutchy> right up until 4.30 this afternoon when i finished work, i thought it was thursday today
[13:45:48] <crutchy> its when my bwain implodes
[13:45:25] <Konomi> ;p
[13:45:23] <Konomi> bayploded is when it implodes rather than explodes
[13:45:04] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <Konomi> then it baysploded
[13:45:04] <crutchy> Konomi, s/ex/bays/
[13:44:56] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <Konomi> then it bayploded
[13:44:56] <crutchy> Konomi, s/ex/bay/
[13:44:36] <Konomi> then it exploded
[13:44:27] <Hedonismbot> * 03SN article: var pageload = { pagemark: '19586395724346885', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases. m
[13:44:27] <crutchy> chromas, http://soylentnews.org
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[13:40:38] <juggs> likewise
[13:40:32] <Bytram> nice chatting with ya!
[13:40:28] <juggs> laters
[13:40:24] <Bytram> afk
[13:40:17] * Bytram should attend to some chores, as well.
[13:40:09] <Bytram> much obliged!
[13:39:55] <juggs> ok thanks - will take a look a little later on - for now I must away and take care of some chores :(
[13:39:17] <Bytram> juggs: on its way; you should get it soon.
[13:36:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:36:53] <Bytram> from what I can tell, it's pretty well compartmentalized, but just a tad beyond my skill (at that time) to fully grok and be4nd to my will.
[13:36:52] <juggs> juggs@
[13:36:14] <Bytram> do you have an email addy at soylentnews.org? I'll forward it to you?
[13:36:10] <juggs> mine either
[13:35:54] <Bytram> javascript is something I can hack at, but it isn't my best language.
[13:35:15] <juggs> good?
[13:33:29] <Bytram> I think I found the e-mails I was looking for...
[13:33:20] <juggs> newp - I'll look into it when I get time
[13:33:06] <Bytram> ok. Obviously, we don't want to impact anything that already makes use of one of those DBs
[13:32:21] <juggs> ircd, irc-services, irc-webchat, Bender, Regurgitator, logbot, nginx and a few other odds n sods - all irc related stuff basically
[13:29:35] <Bytram> hmmm, what other services are running there?
[13:29:08] <juggs> seems we have mysql and postgres running on the irc server - not sure they are Bender related though
[13:28:44] * Bytram found a log file pointing at it coming from nick: stderr
[13:26:13] * Bytram goes to see if he can find the pattern matching/selecting javascript code. brb
[13:25:22] <Bytram> I was thinking along the lines of a web page which did some ajax to retrieve the previous and current day's logs; then parse it into those 5 parts, and then slice/dice/reset to my heart's content
[13:25:10] <juggs> think so
[13:23:59] * Bytram really?
[13:23:40] <juggs> sounds easy enough to do - probably need some kind of db backend, but I think Bender already has one of those
[13:23:37] <Bytram> I explored something along these lines quite a while ago and someone here gave me some javascript which did some of that but I never really got it working right.
[13:22:36] <juggs> interesting idea
[13:22:15] <Bytram> For example, show only stories that mention "North Korea" in their title
[13:21:02] <Bytram> the idea being I could, say, show only those stories which have a certain keyword in them so as to get a variety of sources on a recent topic
[13:20:17] <Bytram> 5.) Story Link
[13:20:13] <Bytram> 4.) Story Title
[13:20:04] <Bytram> 3.) Source's short name [PhysOrg] or [TheRegister] etc.
[13:19:33] <Bytram> 2.) nick (Bender/Reguritator/etc.)
[13:19:10] <Bytram> 1.) date/time stamp
[13:19:05] <Bytram> drop the feed into a table with five columns:
[13:18:39] <Bytram> would be nice if I could take a snapshot of a day (or two's) feed, and filter in/out certain key words to find all related stories on a particular topic
[13:17:51] <Bytram> hmmmm, I've had an idea for quite a while on how to leverage the rss-bot feed
[13:17:06] <Bytram> ahhhh... got it!
[13:16:47] <juggs> Bender already had the functionality, just needed configuring for the #rss-bot feeds. Regurgitator was choking on https feeds and I couldn't figure out why, so he got stood down :D
[13:15:48] <Bytram> hmmm, so did you update bender to handle that task?
[13:15:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2015-01-09
[13:15:31] <Bytram> or in: http://logs.sylnt.us
[13:15:07] <juggs> yup, I retired Regurgitator from RSS duty and setup Bender to do it
[13:14:41] <Bytram> see the entries in: #rss-bot
[13:14:30] <Bytram> hmmm, looks like Regurgitator is on hiatus and has been replaced by Bender?
[13:13:01] <Bytram> beats me.
[13:12:47] <juggs> ^^ What's up with that RSS feed entry? o.O
[13:08:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wind Trees Scavenge Small Winds for Lighting - http://sylnt.us - blowing-in-the-wind || Heinlein's ‘All You Zombies’ Now a Sci-Fi Movie Head Trip - http://sylnt.us - all-tomorrow's-zombies
[13:06:28] <Bytram> lol!
[13:06:19] <juggs> Both I suppose!
[13:03:07] <Bytram> what, the related links? Or practice? =)
[13:01:35] <juggs> Makes life easier :)
[12:59:58] <Bytram> I'm a little out of practice, it seems, there's this part of the story editing page which lists potentially related stories... and there it was! Doh!!
[12:59:15] <juggs> yup
[12:59:12] <Bytram> juggs: ^^^
[12:57:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: Computer Intrusion Inflicts Massive Damage on German Steel Factory 04(29 comments)
[12:57:57] <Bytram> Hey! I think i found it: http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:05] <Bytram> thanks!
[12:56:21] <juggs> sounds familiar - lemme take a look
[12:55:27] <Bytram> how's your search skills today?
[12:55:21] <Bytram> I'm almost certain that we already ran the German steel mill hacking story, but can't find it....
[12:55:06] <juggs> sup?
[12:54:59] <Bytram> Could use some help...
[12:54:53] <Bytram> nice!
[12:54:22] <juggs> Until it gets <5C here, my place seems to keep itself warm enough just on background electronics warming :D
[12:50:33] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> yuppers on that one! I have a flat with heat included, but it couldn't entirely keep up with cold outside. Sure glad I was *inside* on a day like *that*!
[12:50:33] <Bytram> s/tht/that/
[12:50:26] <Bytram> yuppers on that one! I have a flat with heat included, but it couldn't entirely keep up with cold outside. Sure glad I was *inside* on a day like *tht*!
[12:48:46] <juggs> Got to love not having to run the heating in early Jan that's for sure
[12:48:37] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:48:24] * Bytram likes your forecast better
[12:48:12] <juggs> toasty for early Jan here :D
[12:48:01] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 56°F / 13°C, partly cloudy, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 71% - Friday chance of rain (53°F-57°F / 12°C-14°C), Saturday partly cloudy (38°F-56°F / 3°C-13°C), Sunday clear (44°F-48°F / 7°C-9°C), Monday chance of rain (44°F-53°F / 7°C-12°C) - source: Google
[12:48:00] <juggs> ~weather
[12:47:58] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 27°F / -3°C, overcast, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 72% - Friday snow showers (16°F-34°F / -9°C-1°C), Saturday clear (14°F-23°F / -10°C--5°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (27°F-32°F / -3°C-0°C), Monday chance of snow (25°F-37°F / -4°C-3°C) - source: Google
[12:47:57] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:47:46] <Bytram> !weather
[12:47:43] <Bytram> np
[12:47:31] <juggs> Thanks
[12:47:11] <Bytram> ok, I pushed up the Heinlein story; should appear shortly.
[12:47:04] <juggs> I presume the zork and klark subs are spam :D
[12:45:39] <Bytram> I'll move the next story up. brb
[12:45:32] <Bytram> whoah! I didn't notice THAT, but sure looks like it!
[12:45:10] <Bytram> yeah, same here. cold today, too, but at least warmer than yesterday. Woke up to -9 degrees F. (brrrrr!)
[12:44:38] <juggs> hmm - is it really 8 hours since we published something?
[12:44:18] <Bytram> now that looks /interesting/
[12:43:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: var pageload = { pagemark: '19586395724346885', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases. m
[12:43:48] <Bytram> "A Cyberattack Has Caused Confirmed Physical Damage" -- http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:36] <juggs> finally getting into the swing of january
[12:43:24] <Bytram> have ticked it as non-display while I confirm
[12:43:13] <Bytram> btw, I noticed there is a story in the queue that looks like a dupe...
[12:42:44] <Bytram> and you?
[12:42:41] <Bytram> becoming semi-human again after long and crazy holiday work schedule.
[12:42:16] <juggs> hola Bytram o/ How's it going?
[12:41:57] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4980, owned by korci_valdez
[12:41:57] <Bytram> !uid
[12:41:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 962
[12:41:53] <Bytram> coffee++
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[12:38:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Cyberattack Has Caused Confirmed Physical Damage for the Second Time Ever. - http://sylnt.us - E-damage
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[11:56:25] <juggs> yehhh.... the wildcard cert would be a good thing...
[11:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll go finish that game up now. yall keep the faith.
[11:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the up side, that'd make it really good timing to go ahead n get a wildcard cert.
[11:52:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, at least we have dollars left over
[11:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> gah
[11:50:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> never was one to put all of my eggs in one basket. plus i get bored after i learn most everything about a trade.
[11:50:27] <juggs> blech - gandi cert expires in a little over a month :(
[11:48:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn skippy. s'part of why i have like ten or so of them.
[11:48:21] <juggs> indeed - also good to have a trade under the belt to fall back on for when the wheels fall off
[11:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> none of which require even a highschool diploma.
[11:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> world still needs mechanics, plumbers, brick-layers, etc...
[11:46:25] <SedNotABot> <juggs> I quite like Germany's model for further education with two streams one for academic study the other for tech/trade study.
[11:46:25] <juggs> s/studthe/study the/
[11:46:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, that'd definitely get my vote.
[11:46:08] <juggs> I quite like Germany's model for further education with two streams one for academic studthe other for tech/trade study.
[11:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> the no child left behind mentality. we need to start leaving the truly stupid ones behind cause they're dragging the rest of us down.
[11:44:47] <juggs> mmm - something clearly amiss there
[11:41:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean a hundred years ago we taught greek and latin in highschool. now we teach remedial english in college.
[11:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends. i think it could use some massive reform but it's one area that the government has a legitimate interest in spending up my moneys.
[11:39:53] <juggs> I'm sure I don't need to ask your opinion on state funded education :D
[11:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, it's already free if you're willing to work for it.
[11:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> saw that and i was like, um....
[11:38:56] <juggs> strange definition of free
[11:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall heard the latest brilliance to come out of the obama administration? they're proposing making two years of community college free if you're willing to work for it.
[11:36:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm too old for those. my reflexes ain't what they used to be.
[11:35:00] <crutchy> shooting shit up :)
[11:34:45] <crutchy> might be a bit more engaging
[11:34:36] <crutchy> or gta: vice city
[11:34:26] <crutchy> maybe i'll have a go at something like bf1942 or ut2004
[11:33:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to finish up Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning today i think
[11:33:11] <crutchy> don't get into games much lately
[11:32:37] <crutchy> i started playing sim tower after dinner. it put me to sleep :/
[11:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the up side, not doing the upgrade till this weekend means i get to spend today playing video games
[11:31:57] <crutchy> :p
[11:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's fine then
[11:31:18] <crutchy> i don't know what you mean tmb. we were merely having a scientifical discussions
[11:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, boxes with landing strips? it's too early for pr0n
[11:30:11] <crutchy> probe activity has decreased
[11:29:54] <crutchy> they don't dock nowadays as much as they used to
[11:29:23] <juggs> do NASA's boxes have landing strips?
[11:29:20] <crutchy> ah. not considered as important apparently
[11:29:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, their blue box.
[11:28:47] <crutchy> is it running on the NSA's black box?
[11:28:30] <juggs> most sagely sir
[11:28:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, now i'm glad we built a separate daemon for receiving payment notifications. it won't go down when the site does.
[11:26:14] <juggs> Nah, things be complicated enough behind that :P
[11:26:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Blizzard Entertainment - Error!
[11:26:03] <crutchy> http://us.blizzard.com
[11:26:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. almost too easy. we should complicate it some.
[11:25:39] <crutchy> was it blizzard that did that?
[11:25:33] <juggs> TMB, forgot about the load balancer - that makes things easier than messing with dns entries
[11:25:19] <crutchy> ooh. or fill the entire page with a massive broken glass image
[11:24:55] <crutchy> make a page with a funny imgur gif
[11:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of other boxes running various webservers. just point the load balancer to one with an appropriate page.
[11:23:54] <crutchy> redirect to goatse
[11:23:38] <crutchy> prolly just need to tweak the dns thingy to point somewhere else for the duration
[11:23:10] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, yup - as long as we can stick up a "Away for maint" static page somewhere, that'd be fine.
[11:23:07] <Bender> karma - virtualbox: 2
[11:23:06] <crutchy> virtualbox++
[11:22:39] <crutchy> emails the output
[11:22:23] <crutchy> shuts down 3 vms, rsyncs them to a backup server and then restarts them
[11:21:58] <crutchy> my little backup cron tab seems to be running well at work
[11:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we're due some downtime for maintenance if we really need it.
[11:21:30] <crutchy> yeah gotta shut down vm's to clone them
[11:21:15] <juggs> Resilience crutchy - well that's the idea anyway
[11:20:45] <crutchy> maybe cull it. no point paying for a server that's offline
[11:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[11:20:33] <juggs> TMB, he was saying he'd need to take fluorine down to clone it though. Leaves us with no web front ends for the duration I think :-/
[11:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be. we never did figure it out.
[11:19:39] <crutchy> maybe flourine stole hydrogen's electron
[11:19:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, fluorine's our secondary web frontend. hydrogen the primary has been down for a while.
[11:19:03] <crutchy> i made a flow chart in microsoft word today
[11:18:06] <juggs> indeed ciri
[11:18:02] <ciri> lol damn!
[11:18:02] <juggs> lol internal names for servers crutvchy
[11:17:30] <crutchy> ooh he's getting into atomic biology?
[11:17:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> missed that
[11:17:10] <juggs> Yup, I saw him mention something about cloning flourine
[11:16:45] <crutchy> i have Salt N Vinegar Packet setup
[11:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> pj was around yesterday so looks like he's prolly feeling well enough to roll out the update this weekend.
[11:16:28] <juggs> Most BIOS support it these days
[11:16:17] <juggs> Need Magic Packet setup crutchy
[11:15:54] <crutchy> stuff it. ima not getting off the couch :p
[11:15:51] <juggs> Not sure really - been distracted the last couple of days
[11:15:21] <crutchy> derp. my server is shut down
[11:15:03] <ciri> don't ask me!
[11:15:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> how goes things oh fearless leader
[11:14:26] <prospectacle> cool
[11:14:13] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[11:14:13] <crutchy> ~civ
[11:14:09] <crutchy> IRCiv
[11:14:04] <crutchy> yeah. gradually
[11:14:01] <prospectacle> i can't remember what it was called, you had some maps up online
[11:13:49] <prospectacle> crutchy, u still working on that game you were making?
[11:13:48] <crutchy> ah awesome yeah i guess it would
[11:13:27] <prospectacle> sqlite works with pdo too. That's the point of pdo. but either way would work, of course.
[11:12:57] <crutchy> yummy
[11:12:49] * exec abnormally poops a spoon of spew for TheMightyBuzzard
[11:12:48] <juggs> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[11:12:45] <crutchy> i'm used to mysql. pdo is pretty cool
[11:12:44] <prospectacle> anyway, sounds like a fun project.
[11:12:27] <prospectacle> you don't need mysql if you don't want. Sqlite is faster and easier for single-user apps.
[11:11:11] <crutchy> i'll finish the pascal program, realise that its almost as bog slow and then finally do a mysql schema
[11:10:38] <crutchy> true :D
[11:10:20] <crutchy> stuff trying to parse php serialized shit with pascal
[11:10:19] <prospectacle> fair enough, learning is always fun
[11:09:51] <crutchy> i'll prolly wind up going that way, but for my little pascal experiment i'm gunna reformat the files to simple delimited records
[11:09:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 961
[11:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:09:01] <prospectacle> Serialised data is good for small amounts, or arbitrary structures. However, if it's large amounts of uniformly structured data, then a database was invented for this purpose and has been refined over decades to be fast as shit.
[11:08:06] <prospectacle> you'll be so happy you have one, once you have one.
[11:08:00] <prospectacle> crutchy. You def. need a database, in my opinion.
[11:07:40] <prospectacle> i mean the messages in this room don't flood in so fast. You could take each and every new message and, as well as adding it to your regular log, add it to the "last_messages" file, replacing the entry (if any) for that user.
[11:07:39] <crutchy> there's 310 log files for #soylent, stored in ready-parsed serialized format, but that still makes for a lot of data to read. those 310 files are 66.7 Mb
[11:06:52] <prospectacle> lol
[11:06:49] <Bender> karma - ciri: -36
[11:06:49] <prospectacle> ciri--
[11:06:38] <ciri> you talking to me?
[11:06:37] <prospectacle> how is it cached? do you have a file called "last_for_user" which has a list of users and the last message from each one?
[11:06:32] <juggs> Thought about doing something scheduled that parses the logs every N minutes and keeps a ~last record for all nicks? Might still need the log parse function for exec to catch up it it's been offline for a while.
[11:05:47] <exec> last privmsg for juggs in #soylent: [2015-01-09 11:04:33] crutchy, how are you doing the ~last function? Searching the logs for the last entry at the time of the request?
[11:05:30] <crutchy> still bog slow though
[11:05:18] <crutchy> ~last juggs
[11:05:13] <crutchy> should run a bit quicker now cos its cached up to yesterday
[11:04:52] <crutchy> yup
[11:04:33] <juggs> crutchy, how are you doing the ~last function? Searching the logs for the last entry at the time of the request?
[11:04:31] <prospectacle> etc
[11:04:28] <prospectacle> select * from logs where user = xlefay order by date desc limit 1
[11:03:21] <prospectacle> well you don't need to replace everything you'ev already got, but if there's a specific operation which is slow you could try sqlite for optimisation purposes
[11:02:57] <crutchy> but its not great for mass storage of things like logs
[11:02:40] <crutchy> i have a shared memory system called 'buckets' atm, which sorta works pretty well
[11:02:15] <crutchy> i should try that
[11:02:14] <prospectacle> if it's a single-user app, sqlite is great for all kinds of data storage and retrieval
[11:01:54] <prospectacle> well sqlite is pretty great. I use it all the time, very fast, no server required, simple to use, built in support in php
[11:01:46] <crutchy> yeah i dunno what's going on with him
[11:01:36] <crutchy> also its fun to come up with ways to avoid it
[11:01:32] <prospectacle> i hope xlefay is ok
[11:01:27] <crutchy> yeah mysql is a bit overkill for my little bot
[11:01:09] <crutchy> there we go :D
[11:01:05] <prospectacle> if you don't want to run a mysql server
[11:01:02] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-09-02 08:16:21] I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[11:00:58] <prospectacle> even sqlite would be super fast compared to just text files.
[11:00:45] <prospectacle> one option of course is to keep it in a database, that would speed up searching no end.
[11:00:34] <crutchy> though to be fair a lot of this time is downloading logs that haven't been cached locally yet
[11:00:33] <prospectacle> I see. What's your php search string? It may be you can optimise it without switching languages
[11:00:27] * juggs adds moar coal
[10:59:58] * crutchy cranks handle
[10:59:49] <crutchy> please wait... :P
[10:59:36] <crutchy> ...
[10:59:23] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[10:59:18] <crutchy> cos the script i have atm is bog slow
[10:58:45] <crutchy> yeah pretty much
[10:58:39] <crutchy> nah. the pascal program will just be a little console app that exec can call to make quicker searches
[10:58:27] <prospectacle> for better searching, sorting, data-grids etc?
[10:58:04] <prospectacle> oh cool. To have a pc interface instead of a web-interface is that ur plan?
[10:57:54] <crutchy> php will still do the downloading, html parsing and saving to file
[10:57:38] <crutchy> just searching loggie logs at this stage
[10:57:10] <prospectacle> what does your program doing?
[10:57:08] <crutchy> i've used it all before. just gotta remember it :p
[10:56:51] <prospectacle> i can help I use borland c++ which has same library as delphi: e.g. tstringlist, etc
[10:56:47] <crutchy> i been doing all procedural stuff in php... no classes
[10:56:29] <prospectacle> pascal! cool
[10:56:21] <crutchy> 'how do i parse a file into lines?'.... 'oh yeah there's a TStringList class for that'
[10:55:44] <crutchy> i'm working on a free pascal program. i feel like a noob all over again cos i haven't touched delphi/pascal for a few months
[10:54:30] <crutchy> i got kids too, and kids are a safety risk :p
[10:53:39] <crutchy> but yeah i hate insurance companies
[10:53:25] <crutchy> and its more for peace of mind for the big things like fire
[10:53:11] <prospectacle> well in theory. I couldn't afford to replace all my stuff in practice.
[10:53:10] <crutchy> home loans generally require it
[10:52:47] <prospectacle> I guess sometimes you gotta have it. My philosophy is anything < 10k, don't get insurance, pay your premiums into your own savings account
[10:52:07] <prospectacle> insurance people are the worst. their business model is not paying you a fair amount when things go wrong.
[10:30:49] <crutchy> my air conditioner is knackered too, so i'm hoping it stays cool at least till the insurance people pull their fingers out
[10:30:20] <crutchy> cool is nice
[10:29:55] <prospectacle> I'm glad of the rain, it's been hot here but when it's raining it's nice and cool
[10:29:23] <crutchy> they're knackered by the storm
[10:26:23] <prospectacle> what's wrong with ur roof lights?
[10:26:06] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Six Word Stories - Part One - Imgur
[10:26:06] <prospectacle> a collection of six word stories: http://imgur.com
[10:21:06] <crutchy> k. i'm over this rain now. and i'm over having to use desklamps and my phone cos the lights on the roof don't work :/
[10:18:36] <prospectacle> lol, good story
[10:13:01] <crutchy> http://i.imgur.com
[10:00:55] <Konomi> I didn't just mean that!
[10:00:51] <Konomi> psh
[10:00:23] <crutchy> Konomi, i don't wanna hear about your sex life :p
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[09:49:25] <Konomi> fortuantly I never get tired of my SO ;p
[09:49:15] <Konomi> ha
[09:49:07] <Konomi> \o/
[09:45:37] <crutchy> i am so an introvert
[09:44:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Every time. - Imgur
[09:44:55] <crutchy> http://imgur.com
[09:44:28] * Konomi waves
[09:42:38] <prospectacle> a good evening, soylents
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[06:18:14] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 211
[06:18:14] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:16:16] <crutchy> hehe. america warning china about inflation. that's fucking hilarious
[06:15:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03China Can’t Inflate Away Its Problems - Heard on the Street - WSJ
[06:15:18] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
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[05:25:32] <SpallsHurgenson> new experiment: sleep
[05:22:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Biting nipples.
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[05:21:25] <BadCoderFinger> Night guys!
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[05:10:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Entire groups of classes, at the junior-high and high-school level.
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[05:10:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Later, you are funnelled into entire classes.
[05:10:09] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[05:09:56] <Ethanol-fueled> You get one day a week to explore concepts and things that plebes don't have access to.
[05:09:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Gifted and Talented Education (GATE) / Overview
[05:09:00] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.sandi.net
[05:08:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Or more specifically:
[05:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> THAT ^ motherfuckers...back inthe late '80s and early '90s
[05:07:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Contact Us - Department Information (CA Dept of Education)
[05:07:33] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.cde.ca.gov
[05:07:06] <Ethanol-fueled> The best gift you could give to a so-called "gifted kid" is to get 'em liquored up and stoned in a place where prosties are legal./
[05:06:52] <JamesNZ> ~define GATE
[05:06:22] <Konomi> classy as ever
[05:05:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I was in GATE. I was special.
[05:05:44] <Ethanol-fueled> The best give you could give to a so-called "gifted kid" is a paid blowjob and a rail of coke.
[05:05:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Gifted kids?
[05:04:47] <Konomi> this was a nice read
[05:04:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Introverts - Social Needs and Preferences
[05:04:44] <Konomi> http://giftedkids.about.com
[05:03:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Salton Sea methamphetamine trip - YouTube
[05:03:01] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:02:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Curiosity Rover Finds Remnants of Microbial Activity on Mars - http://sylnt.us - studying-suspicious-sedimentary-structures
[04:56:04] <BadCoderFinger> And who can blame you? Heh.
[04:55:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I deny everything! I learned nothing, NOTHINK!
[04:54:33] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Now you know, heh.
[04:53:52] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: No comment ;)
[04:53:29] <SpallsHurgenson> JamesNZ: this is revenge for that coffee thing, isn't it?
[04:53:10] * JamesNZ pushes SpallsHurgenson further down the rabbit hole
[04:51:58] * SpallsHurgenson gets drawn into a long article about logic... I've been tricked!
[04:49:02] * SpallsHurgenson wikis sorites
[04:48:09] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, it was all about second chances (and the failure thereof :)
[04:47:46] <BadCoderFinger> And what, pray tell, is your experiment, Dr. Livingstone?
[04:47:20] * SpallsHurgenson assumes it is working
[04:47:20] <BadCoderFinger> I may have some invalid sorites...
[04:45:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Not me, but others.
[04:45:05] <SpallsHurgenson> meanwhile, I think that just concluded my new year's experiment. time to return to sanity.
[04:44:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm talkin' the "full retard" when you're dead sober and think that Scientology is a good idea. :(
[04:43:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not talkin' the "full retard" you get when you're too drunk, or do something fleeting and impulsive....that can be excused for everybody, male, female, whatever.
[04:43:32] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe some sort of propositional fallacy? c'mon, you gotta have somethin'!
[04:42:51] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I'll search the empty ammo cans...
[04:42:48] <Ethanol-fueled> You think that you held out for so long, that one would be at least bearable, and then they go full-retard.
[04:42:23] <SpallsHurgenson> aww, c'mon, you gotta have at least one ad hominem!
[04:42:20] <Ethanol-fueled> That's my argument.
[04:42:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Women are stupid.
[04:41:53] <BadCoderFinger> In that case, my argument machine is out of everything except hyperbole and straw-men.
[04:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> I've said it before and I'll say it again: stop using logic and facts around me!
[04:40:45] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[04:40:20] <BadCoderFinger> Nothing like internet relay chat, that sort of thing?
[04:34:15] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, emails rocks. I mean, you'll never get me to use any of those instant messaging services, nosireebob!
[04:32:13] <BadCoderFinger> Email? Ancient tech! Procrastination is all the response those luddites deserve!
[04:32:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chickens ‘Closer to Dinosaurs’ than Other Birds - http://sylnt.us - dinosaur-BBQ
[04:30:23] * SpallsHurgenson decides it is safe to ignore the emails waiting in his inbox for another day
[04:13:55] * Ethanol-fueled steps out to procure another siz-pack of IPA
[04:10:32] <Ethanol-fueled> BAH! Nonsense.
[04:10:22] <Ethanol-fueled> With erry curvature of the dashboard.
[04:10:08] <Ethanol-fueled> "Aerodymanics," they called it.
[04:09:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Or quite possibly that shortly thereafter homosexuals dominated the design of domestic vehicles.
[04:09:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Its those fuckers Dodge that ruined AMerican automotive ergonomics.
[04:07:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Probably because Ford caught on.
[04:07:16] <Ethanol-fueled> http://image.motortrend.com
[04:06:27] <SirFinkus> I haven't really seen that perception
[04:05:55] <SpallsHurgenson> its get off my lawn, whippersnappers! :)
[04:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> \
[04:05:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I've owned Fords and have liked them. I had a Pony, Aspire, and F-150. Simple and reliable. But in the American mindset, too "girly
[04:05:51] <SirFinkus> you square
[04:05:32] <SirFinkus> or generaion m
[04:05:26] <SirFinkus> it's "Born mobile" SpallsHurgenson
[04:05:10] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe its because I'm not part of generation-mobile :(
[04:04:54] <SirFinkus> I dunno, I haven't had any trouble with my sensible ford focus
[04:04:32] <SpallsHurgenson> am I the only one who likes cars that have proper keys to open the doors and start the engine? and get off my lawn!
[04:03:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Simplicity compared to other American brands.
[04:03:39] <Konomi> that sounds like something anyone would like
[04:03:27] <Ethanol-fueled> konomi, their curviness and ease of use.
[04:03:14] <Konomi> what makes fords more attractable to "homos" exactly?
[04:03:09] <Ethanol-fueled> The Ranger Edge and the Raptor have been their only saving graces.
[04:02:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Ford's been the brand of choice for homos for a long time now.
[04:02:25] <SpallsHurgenson> ah Ford, we love you :)
[04:02:24] <Konomi> damn we got the brake and accelerator lcds around the wrong way again oh well
[04:02:02] <Ethanol-fueled> You all shy away from being aggressive, from thinking spite can be a valuable motivator.
[04:01:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ford Recalls SUVs ... to Fix the UI - http://sylnt.us - it's-a-hardware-issue
[04:01:31] <Ethanol-fueled> The problem is that nobody stands up, nobody fights.
[03:59:09] <Ethanol-fueled> This has manifested itself as the "permatemp" for awhile.
[03:58:54] <Ethanol-fueled> in essence, in a dystopic American future, consisting entirely of contract employees with no rights or recource.
[03:58:20] <Ethanol-fueled> What I've seen is that local governments will outsource to temp agencies
[03:57:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, c'mon; a chain that controls 30% of US retail and who is owned by a family that is richer than the all the bottom 40% of income earners combined? tell me another one, mate! :) :)
[03:54:51] <SpallsHurgenson> see, it's always a friend or a friend of a friend. it's like a campfire ghost story :) :)
[03:54:18] <BadCoderFinger> I had a friend who worked there. It is a tale of woe.
[03:52:24] <SpallsHurgenson> therefore I relegate the entire chain to being just a horrific myth CEOs use to control their employees :)
[03:51:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I've never been in a walmart
[03:47:14] <BadCoderFinger> Wal-mart already sort of practices this.
[03:46:45] <BadCoderFinger> I wonder if in the next few years corporations will be able to legally bypass minimum wage and call it, "economic recovery in-country outsourcing."
[03:45:54] <SpallsHurgenson> it's accidental, I swear!
[03:45:39] <BadCoderFinger> You know, you could be on to something.
[03:44:39] <SpallsHurgenson> 'course, it is BYOI (bring your own infrastructure)
[03:44:24] <SpallsHurgenson> all the advantages of outsourcing to a third world country without actually having to relocate :)
[03:43:17] <SpallsHurgenson> BCF: I think the idea is that you have low taxes, cheap property and desperate-to-work employees :)
[03:40:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Omnicorp 2027 CES Keynote Presentation - YouTube
[03:40:27] <SpallsHurgenson> on a related note: https://www.youtube.com
[03:39:24] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHEHEHHHEHEOOOOOO @ OCP
[03:39:20] <BadCoderFinger> That's just bizarre. What's the selling point, have your tech next door to GM?
[03:39:14] <SpallsHurgenson> Omni Consumer Products is betting big on Detroit, I hear
[03:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> True, Finkus
[03:38:25] <SirFinkus> I think I heard some bullshit about tech companies moving to detroit, which almost sounds absurd enough for it to be true
[03:38:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Cattle!
[03:37:58] <Ethanol-fueled> So, ahem, move to Texas! You can buy a mansion for 50K around Austin! You can have rights, guns, turnarounds!
[03:37:04] <Ethanol-fueled> right? Rrrroooight?!!
[03:36:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Austin Texas, because there's growth and no taxes there! *cocks eyebrow*
[03:36:31] <SirFinkus> I've gotten sucked into the keynote again
[03:36:04] <Ethanol-fueled> San Diego needs to offload its tech scene^W^W misery onto Austin.
[03:35:16] <SirFinkus> it's possible
[03:34:51] <Ethanol-fueled> that's where the "" SCENE "" is "" HAPPENING ""
[03:34:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, can we get them to move to Austin?
[03:33:35] <SirFinkus> and we don't want them either
[03:31:26] <SirFinkus> unlikely
[03:31:11] <SirFinkus> it's every bad press event trope
[03:31:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Please, please, that would really be nice.
[03:30:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, can you convince them to move their operation to Seattle?
[03:30:22] <Ethanol-fueled> ERRRRGH.....I hate Qualcomm even more after watching that video.
[03:30:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Qualcomm's CES 2013 Keynote - YouTube
[03:30:00] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:29:59] <SirFinkus> I'd encourage anyone to watch the whole thing if they haven't already
[03:29:28] <Ethanol-fueled> I dated a girl who worked for Qualcommm. Cut that bitch off after 10 minutes of one-sided conversation.
[03:28:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Cult of personality
[03:28:53] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[03:28:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, that's gross.
[03:28:11] <SpallsHurgenson> 2013? That's so long ago! I'm not sure I was even alive back then
[03:27:27] <SirFinkus> those are the highlights
[03:27:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The most insane keynote ever: Qualcomm at CES 2013 - YouTube
[03:27:12] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:27:11] <SirFinkus> they had the greatest ces keynote in 2013
[03:26:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Qualcomm are a local fixture, for H1-B worming away of American jobs that is.
[03:26:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, why does that matter?
[03:22:05] <SirFinkus> fuck, that what the greatest thing ever
[03:20:31] <SirFinkus> did qualcomm do their keynote yet?
[03:17:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03USB 3.1 and Type-C: The only stuff at CES that everyone is going to use | Ars Technica
[03:17:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not sure I support a USB plug that I don't have to try at least three times before it fits http://arstechnica.com
[03:15:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Jacked a phat 2-port graphics card from the E-waste bin from work as well.
[03:11:53] <Bender> karma - (getting free shit from work): 1
[03:11:53] <Ethanol-fueled> (getting free shit from work)++
[03:11:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Got that bitch for free because the calibrator complained about its timebase, but said, "It'll do anything you need to, and accurately, for personal use"
[03:10:57] <Ethanol-fueled> "portable" my ass.
[03:10:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah!
[03:10:41] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.barrytech.com
[03:10:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Makes me wanna build the setup and runnit on my TEK 2246
[03:09:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Dat quake on an o-scope article was fucking rad
[03:07:37] <SirFinkus> I'm sure there are several *s **s and such
[03:07:36] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Running Doom on the tiny Intel Edison computer - YouTube
[03:07:35] <SpallsHurgenson> and finally: it's not a REAL computer until you can run Doom on it. https://www.youtube.com
[03:06:15] <SirFinkus> whats the * though?
[03:03:04] <chromas> they had that before, when it was cingular
[02:58:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Welcome to Europe 10 years ago, America!
[02:58:29] <Ethanol-fueled> at&t is announcing rollover data
[02:56:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Gallery: The weird, wacky, and wonderful world of CES | Ars Technica
[02:56:53] <SpallsHurgenson> meanwhile, CES remains weird http://arstechnica.com
[02:53:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahheeeheeheooooooo!
[02:53:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, like SONY!
[02:50:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm starting to get the feeling that employees at the telecoms hate their companies as much as we do and are purposefully sabotaging themselves
[02:39:57] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, yeah.
[02:39:56] <SpallsHurgenson> followed shortly, I hope, by "ooops" :)
[02:39:46] <SpallsHurgenson> "even though our voice service is regulated as type ii, our data isn't and there isn't anything you can do about it, neener neener neener!"
[02:39:33] <BadCoderFinger> Sigh. AT&T, pioneers of "fiber to the press release."
[02:39:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03AT&T defends unlimited data throttling, says the FTC can’t stop it | Ars Technica
[02:39:02] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of chicken, apparently AT&T is playing it with the FCC http://arstechnica.com
[02:36:09] <SpallsHurgenson> Gordon appreciates that
[02:35:07] <SirFinkus> cordon, I'm stupid
[02:34:53] <SpallsHurgenson> Gordon isn't intended as dinner!
[02:34:20] <SirFinkus> how's this for fancy, chicken gordon bleu is tonight's dinner
[02:32:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Don't sound the death knell for the PC just yet
[02:32:51] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, they've convinced me, I'm buying a new PC http://bigstory.ap.org
[02:14:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03IT Workers of the World Unite! | Fox Business
[02:14:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.foxbusiness.com
[02:10:10] <Ethanol-fueled> BadCoderFinger -- I find it hard to believe how people could dick around with technology all day and then be pleased to come home to it.
[02:08:08] <BadCoderFinger> I envy your technology graveyard...
[02:06:34] <SpallsHurgenson> or I'll ever use, but that's not the point :) :)
[02:06:26] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I have the best gear ever! it's faster, better and cooler than anything you will ever use
[02:05:12] <SpallsHurgenson> what, and risk a dead pixel? all my tvs are unplugged!
[02:04:05] <BadCoderFinger> You just need irssi on your smart tv, then no computer at all!
[02:03:15] <BadCoderFinger> Very secure as well.
[02:02:22] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I find my computer runs better if I never turn it on
[02:01:28] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I still think just unplugging the router is a better idea. I wouldn't want to get any dirty bits clogged in my new router or anything
[02:00:30] <BadCoderFinger> DD-WRT...
[02:00:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Future of Net Neutrality may be Looking Up - http://sylnt.us - i-fcc-what-you-did-there
[01:55:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Got an Asus router? Someone on your network can probably hack it | Ars Technica
[01:55:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com why I never connect my network to anything :)
[01:49:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Perhaps peeing on it. Peeing on anything frozen is awesome.
[01:49:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Needs more offensiveness.
[01:49:07] <BadCoderFinger> Hrmph, internet antifreeze?
[01:34:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03‘What do I do if my Internet pipes freeze?’ | Network World
[01:34:56] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.networkworld.com
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[01:33:49] <Konomi> in case anyone is interested
[01:33:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Some closure on a particularly nasty bug. | codemonkey.org.uk
[01:33:43] <Konomi> http://codemonkey.org.uk
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[01:25:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, someday, someday.
[01:25:35] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: it's called bein classy
[01:24:52] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys drink some fancy shit.
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[01:22:18] <SirFinkus> celery salt is pretty versatile, it's in a lot of shit
[01:13:30] <swiss> whatevs, i'll add it to my grocery list
[01:12:58] <swiss> but i doubt i'd ever use celery salt again...
[01:12:39] <swiss> debating if i want to make a bloody mary and such
[01:12:32] <Ethanol-fueled> unlike shit like beer, which is just empty calories and, with the better ones, asking for manboobs (hop estrogen)
[01:12:08] <Ethanol-fueled> that is one good thing about mixed drinks, though, they have the potential to provide vitamins and minerals through juice.
[01:10:34] <swiss> gotta have it all
[01:09:58] <Ethanol-fueled> so you gotta have the peels, then.
[01:09:48] <swiss> the thing is i love things garnished with lemon and lime
[01:09:44] <Ethanol-fueled> then pop out how much you need as you need it.
[01:09:36] <Ethanol-fueled> You could try the trick Anthony bourdain uses with stock and freeze the fresh-pressed juice into ice-cube trays.
[01:09:06] <BadCoderFinger> That's true enough. You could freeze them, but that kinda sucks.
[01:08:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah swiss, that juice ain't pure juice even though it comes in a lemon or lime-shaped vessel.
[01:08:40] <swiss> no, trees only give when they feel like it
[01:08:33] <swiss> cause i don't want them often, but then I do want them at times
[01:08:29] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, I think they're known as "trees."
[01:08:14] <swiss> i wish i had an on-demand supply of fresh lemons and limes
[01:08:02] <swiss> i'm debating whether i want to try to buy more mixer type things for my alkies
[01:07:31] <BadCoderFinger> Well dang, guess we need different music.
[01:03:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Playin' that Mississippi Delta Blues.
[01:03:39] <Ethanol-fueled> I think I made everybody depressed, BadCoderFinger.
[01:02:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Yo, bro!
[01:02:16] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
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[00:59:56] <Ethanol-fueled> So who likes ponies?
[00:59:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fukushima Radiation Reaches West Coast - http://sylnt.us - glowing-with-nuclear-health
[00:59:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I had to call the cops while my mom tried to kill herself. I've seen some shit.
[00:58:50] <Ethanol-fueled> And, yes, that was dark humor.
[00:57:32] <Ethanol-fueled> "ride" meaning I'm on board with it, not just in the sexual sense.
[00:56:03] <swiss> 16:47:37 < Ethanol-fueled> Fuck it. I'm gonna ride she-Hawking straight to the grave.
[00:56:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I've been talking about others like I've been blowing rubbers through them like an F1 driver on the track. But not this one.
[00:55:36] <Ethanol-fueled> That's not true.
[00:55:08] <swiss> yet your reasoning seems to be based in your pants, rather than head or heart
[00:53:46] <Ethanol-fueled> I already told her I didn't give a fuck.
[00:53:07] <swiss> yep, it is
[00:48:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, that's fucked up.
[00:47:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck it. I'm gonna ride she-Hawking straight to the grave.
[00:47:23] <swiss> stinks
[00:46:53] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, check this out -- I found out my romantic interest has a neuromuscular degenerative disease.
[00:45:58] <Ethanol-fueled> one more year or so of that bitch to go.
[00:45:37] <swiss> yep
[00:45:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, fuck school
[00:44:32] <swiss> that feel when you don't have to pirate textbooks
[00:39:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Aww, yeah!
[00:39:50] <Ethanol-fueled> (that feel when you just "borrowed digitally and permanently for free" the latest edition of a required text for an upcoming class)
[00:38:37] <swiss> LSD requires materials very hard to obtain in the US
[00:38:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Some LSD would be awesome.
[00:38:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Can you make some LSD?
[00:37:58] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, so you can make meth and MDMA?
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[00:33:15] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: damn straight
[00:31:55] <paulej72> all of the students have to do one controls experiment and our class sizes are getting larger so we are adding the new level control. our other controls experiments are temperature control of air going over a heater in a glass tube and mixing of a dye in a tank to,get a set concentration
[00:31:22] <Ethanol-fueled> damn, swiss, that's pretty upscale.
[00:31:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Kidna heavy on the sodium, but not too bad wtih the fat if you're not on a diet.
[00:31:12] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i like my trader joes dinners
[00:30:58] <Ethanol-fueled> they're big and cheap. when you're starving, they're fucking Chez Gourmet
[00:30:42] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss - they
[00:28:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn, pauley, that's some hot shit.
[00:26:23] <paulej72> the second experiment is heat transfer in a fluidized bed os glass beds. this one is getting new computer connected thermocouples
[00:25:12] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: gross
[00:25:03] <paulej72> chemical engineer turned computer jockey. the one experiment is a controls experiment to keep the levle of water in a tank constant by adjusting the speed of a pump
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[00:24:37] <SirFinkus> wish I had some
[00:24:28] <SirFinkus> lasagnas are good
[00:24:09] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, my dorm-fridge is loaded with Safeway Select lasagnas.
[00:23:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Care to elaborate, pauley? Are you a Computer Scientist or a physicist? Or both?
[00:22:59] <paulej72> I am trying to get a couple of new experiments ready for our teaching lab. one is totally new the second I a complete rebuild of a old experiment
[00:21:05] <Ethanol-fueled> hear that, pauley. Both work and school.
[00:20:41] <paulej72> too much work too little time
[00:20:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, what's up?
[00:20:00] <swiss> hungry
[00:19:58] <swiss> didn't buy food though, got home, realized i'm hungrty
[00:19:51] <swiss> pretty good, just bought some more booze
[00:19:42] <paulej72> the sky
[00:19:39] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup swiss, how goes it?
[00:19:18] <swiss> hi
[00:19:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Wussup
[00:18:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Unh!
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[00:15:17] <paulej72> it is easier to go to the local brewpub and get a gallon to go
[00:14:26] <paulej72> ????
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