#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-09

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[23:35:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Braces for Backlash from Torture Report - http://sylnt.us - painful-truths
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[23:03:56] <Bender> karma - fedora: 45
[23:03:56] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[23:03:53] <Bender> karma - fedora: 44
[23:03:53] <JamesNZ> fedora++
[22:57:51] <chromas> or maybe they just don't know
[22:57:15] <chromas> I see many no-systemd things in the aur; I wonder if the debianfork people have any relation
[22:55:12] <JamesNZ> :P
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[22:54:35] <chromas> hehe, JamesNZ, you could submit that, and at the end, put in one of those "in case you're wondering why this is posted here"
[22:53:15] <chromas> systemd-unit: rc.d script that launches service defined in systemd service unit file
[22:53:03] <chromas> haha
[22:50:43] <JamesNZ> Time to stir the waters.
[22:50:15] <chromas> it's been so long since we had a systemd story, we haven't even mentioned it much in here anymore even
[22:49:34] <JamesNZ> That counts as newsworthy, right? :P
[22:49:22] <NetCraft> ^ 033. Changes in Fedora for System Administrators
[22:49:21] <JamesNZ> And, ahem, a section on systemd for sysadmins. https://docs.fedoraproject.org
[22:48:50] <NetCraft> ^ 034. Changes in Fedora for Desktop Users
[22:48:49] <JamesNZ> chromas: Hah, there's a new systemd log viewer :P https://docs.fedoraproject.org
[22:47:38] <JamesNZ> No idea :)
[22:44:58] <chromas> Did they get a refund from the domain seller? :)
[22:44:35] <chromas> that didn't last long
[22:44:22] <JamesNZ> There was, you have to get to it from the internet archive now.
[22:44:00] <chromas> I thought there used to be a fedora-specific one but not now
[22:43:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03boycott Linux
[22:43:38] <chromas> http://www.boycottlinux.org
[22:41:39] <JamesNZ> a new*
[22:41:20] <NetCraft> ^ 03Fedora ( index.html.en )
[22:41:20] <JamesNZ> Blimey, we got a website as well O_O https://getfedora.org
[22:41:05] <Bender> karma - gnome: -5
[22:41:05] <JamesNZ> gnome--
[22:41:01] <Bender> karma - gunome: -3
[22:41:01] <chromas> gunome--
[22:40:56] <Bender> karma - gnome: -4
[22:40:56] <chromas> gnome--
[22:40:52] * JamesNZ checks release notes
[22:40:52] <chromas> ewww
[22:40:45] <JamesNZ> Well I think it has the new Gnome version, so.... maybe :P
[22:40:24] <chromas> :D :D
[22:40:20] <chromas> Does it mention systemd?
[22:40:03] <JamesNZ> Hmm, would a story about the new Fedora release be appropriate?
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[22:33:08] <SirFinkus> usually pretty interesting
[22:33:05] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture: Difference between revisions
[22:33:03] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[22:33:02] <SirFinkus> heh, I love @congressedits
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[22:24:47] <Blackmoore> ooookk.
[22:24:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 892
[22:24:37] <Blackmoore> coffee++
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[22:24:27] <Bender> karma - tea: 302
[22:24:27] <Blackmoore> tea++
[22:24:15] <Blackmoore> wait .. what?
[22:13:30] <Bender> karma - tea: 301
[22:13:29] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:13:29] <Bender> karma - tea: 300
[22:13:29] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:04:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 40.4% Solar Conversion Efficiency - http://sylnt.us - here-comes-the-sun
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[21:33:00] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4924, owned by Aurean
[21:33:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[21:12:07] <Bender> karma - ovals: -2
[21:12:07] <chromas> ovals--
[21:11:54] <Bender> karma - circular_firing_squads: -1
[21:11:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> circular_firing_squads--
[21:11:19] <SirFinkus> circular_progress_bars--
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[21:10:26] * chromas checks TheMightyBuzzard's beard for a copy of Big 'Uns
[21:09:56] <chromas> see ya
[21:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> adios
[21:09:51] <crutchy> later dudes
[21:09:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> allow me to retort with "hooters, hooters, yum yum yum, hooters, hooters, on a girl that's dumb"
[21:09:35] <crutchy> feck i gotta go to workipoos
[21:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> thank you al bundy
[21:07:21] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[21:07:20] <crutchy> lol
[21:07:10] <chromas> "I'd say it behind your back but my car's only got half a tank of gas!"
[21:07:00] <crutchy> yeah i noticed that
[21:06:49] <chromas> she has really big chins
[21:06:26] <crutchy> maybe an ascii blow up doll
[21:06:19] <chromas> At least you didn't use ← for the legs
[21:06:01] <crutchy> really bad chick with bewbs
[21:05:52] <crutchy> 8-0)-8--<
[21:05:32] <chromas> (bigger eyes)
[21:05:26] <chromas> 8O
[21:05:15] <chromas> :O
[21:04:52] <crutchy> this time last year i didn't even know what an irc bot was
[21:04:02] <chromas> Just think, one years ago from right now, slashdot was doing absolutely nothing to change the beta from when it was first debuted
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[21:03:17] <crutchy> its now an SN meme :p
[21:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd totally do that if it were me writing it.
[21:02:18] <chromas> "Just one years ago, we wound back the cock on beta"
[21:01:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> not long now
[21:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[21:01:41] <chromas> We're gonna hit 1 in a couple months
[21:01:35] <crutchy> my cock prolly has alzheimers
[21:01:25] <chromas> oh yeah, speaking of october
[21:00:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if it's an alzheimers cock
[21:00:47] <crutchy> already did that back in october :/
[21:00:24] <chromas> Would it help to wind back the cock?
[21:00:07] <Bender> karma - clocks: 1
[21:00:07] <crutchy> clocks--
[20:59:44] <JamesNZ> Just take the battery out :)
[20:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> punch the clock
[20:59:21] <crutchy> cos i'm sitting here enjoying my first coffee of the day (cos wifey found a new jar in the cupboard that apparently eluded me) but the clock is going too fast :/
[20:58:43] <chromas> only approach?
[20:58:28] * crutchy needs a spaceship that can approach the speed of light
[20:56:18] <crutchy> now they're all z'ing
[20:56:05] <crutchy> maybe they were working on a fork of X called Z
[20:56:00] <JamesNZ> Call it Xuan.
[20:55:50] <Bender> karma - wayland: 4
[20:55:50] <chromas> wayland++
[20:55:38] <crutchy> we need to fork X
[20:54:31] <crutchy> x has had its fanged embedded in linux userland for years. maybe the x haters have fallen asleep
[20:54:28] <chromas> ~cowsay-elephant
[20:53:56] <crutchy> i been wailing to the masses of systemd haterz that X is the elephant in the room
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[20:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> whew, no worries for the servers then
[20:47:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03[ANNOUNCE] X.Org Security Advisory: Protocol handling issues in X servers
[20:47:11] <ar> http://lists.x.org
[20:36:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> let everyone figure out for themselves that www is not only not necessary but not us.
[20:36:34] <Blackmoore> I'll accept your word; i have no idea how DNS works.
[20:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, known issue. i really think we should just undef www in the dns records
[20:34:58] <Subsentient2> Unfortunately
[20:34:45] <chromas> www.? Is that still around?
[20:34:06] <chromas> If I bring enough, then you'll be okay with lxde going to qt
[20:34:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: A Proposal to Politically re-Empower U.S. Citizenry 04(90 comments)
[20:34:05] <Subsentient2> just feed Ethanol-fueled some chalupas and you got your methane powered rockets.
[20:34:04] <Blackmoore> has anyone seen Please redirect www.soylent to soylent (Score:1) in the http://soylentnews.org article?
[20:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, seen that afore but qt and lightweight do so not go together.
[20:33:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> as is my due
[20:33:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Firefly Space Systems Plans to Lower Costs to Space with Methane-Fuelled Rockets - http://sylnt.us - you-can't-take-the-sky-from-me
[20:33:13] <chromas> I bring you tp
[20:33:10] <Subsentient2> Yes.
[20:32:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, are you threatening me?
[20:31:37] * chromas pokes tmb with that link
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[20:30:07] <chromas> ew about combining with gunome ui
[20:29:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03LXQt - The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment
[20:29:31] <chromas> http://lxqt.org
[20:29:27] <swiss> what
[20:29:23] <chromas> they're doing something different apparently
[20:29:08] <chromas> ew
[20:28:44] <swiss> if they'd combine this with gnome's UI, i'd be a happy man
[20:28:25] <swiss> lxde netbook desktop for my laptop now
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[20:15:54] <crutchy> ermagerd!
[20:15:32] <Subsentient2> Now there is three of me.
[20:15:27] <Subsentient2> Ehh, I really need to finish NEXUS.
[20:15:12] <crutchy> :p
[20:15:10] <crutchy> you have to open it yourself
[20:14:54] * aqu4 gives Subsentient a cold can of beer
[20:14:54] <crutchy> $beer Subsentient
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[20:14:23] <crutchy> not spam related directly but sorta in the same vein
[20:13:47] <crutchy> there's an M2 issue
[20:13:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, up until recently it hasn't been enough of an issue to be an Issue
[20:13:00] <crutchy> ah spam lol
[20:12:06] <crutchy> ~define smap
[20:11:49] <Bender> karma - php: 6
[20:11:48] <crutchy> php++
[20:11:42] <Blackmoore> I dont see anything on the list dealing with smap/multiple posts. did it get dropped or rejected as too much for the site to deal with
[20:11:08] <fliptop> TheMightyBuzzard: understood, thanks.
[20:10:54] <crutchy> like awesomesauce PHP! :D
[20:10:44] <crutchy> biggest problem for attracting devs here i think is the language. not a lack of desire to step forward. not that many people learning perl as some of the other languages
[20:09:02] <crutchy> i need one of those for my work project
[20:08:49] <crutchy> like a sticky note board
[20:08:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto users thinking of something they want fixed
[20:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> fliptop, the items on the issues list is just that. we think of something, we put it on there so we'll remember we wanted to do it.
[20:07:51] <crutchy> snickering and trolls mostly :/
[20:07:39] <crutchy> had a squiz at juggs' call to arms. not overly good response
[20:05:21] <Bender> karma - botfap: 2
[20:05:21] <crutchy> botfap++ # bots have urges too
[20:05:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> he downloaded an older version of the vm and started mumbling stuff about r'lyeh
[20:04:33] <crutchy> that was an awesome nick
[20:04:32] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
[20:04:21] <ar> huh
[20:04:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Krio language
[20:04:17] <ar> http://en.wikipedia.org
[20:04:07] <crutchy> what ever happened to botfap and his three minions?
[20:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn now that was a quality nap
[19:56:18] <chromas> "Search is terrible and useless" Heh; must be new to slash-based sites
[19:52:23] <NetCraft> ^ 03Issues · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[19:52:23] <crutchy> https://github.com
[19:51:10] <crutchy> i think most are fairly superficial
[19:47:22] <Blackmoore> good question. I dont even know what on the list. paulej72 ?
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[19:43:07] <Blackmoore> cya
[19:38:51] <janrinok> bye guys - got to go
[19:38:36] <fliptop> all the items in the issues list, are they self-serving or is the big-picture goal to attract more registered users? i've only skimmed through the list
[19:37:39] <Blackmoore> no, not yet :( it's been kinda slow the last month
[19:37:38] <janrinok> sry 5000
[19:37:25] <janrinok> I propose an IRC party when we get to 500. I'll bring some beers!
[19:37:12] <fliptop> so not even 5000 yet.
[19:36:34] <janrinok> np
[19:36:31] <fliptop> thanks.
[19:36:16] <janrinok> fliptop: ^
[19:36:03] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4924, owned by Aurean
[19:36:02] <janrinok> !uid
[19:35:51] <fliptop> currently, how many registered users are there? i asked in my journal but didn't see a response.
[19:35:36] <janrinok> I'm going to have to go and do something else, but I'll be back on tomorrow. Have a good one and thanks for the hard work!
[19:35:11] <Blackmoore> yeah - I'm kinda bothered that a few people have gone completely dark too.
[19:34:35] <Blackmoore> i'm in the ones that count
[19:34:20] <janrinok> Blackmoore: I'm not sure why the submissions (from the community) have dropped off over the last few days. I hope it is not a sign of things to come.
[19:33:15] <janrinok> I'm chasing you from channel to channel....
[19:32:55] <Blackmoore> high five janrinok
[19:29:02] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI janrinok
[19:29:01] <janrinok> hi Brylarke
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[19:17:45] <paulej72> unfortunatley not, but once you look at it you usually understan why it was done a particular way, Sometimes it is just easier to use an axisting function and tweek it a bit in the template rather than code up a special case.
[19:16:04] <fliptop> paulej72: understood. so there's not quite a clean delineation of code and html then?
[19:15:50] <paulej72> we do have a #dev channel, but we typically don’t use it much as what little we need to talk about we usually do here since we do get good input from some of our non staff programmers that hang out here.
[19:14:24] <paulej72> We try to put functions that get called many times in the background logic in perl moddules. sometimes the are in the front end perl code. It is a bit hit and miss on what is going on. Grep will be your friend in finding bits of code.
[19:13:38] <fliptop> paulej72: #issues - wow, quite a list. i'll peruse it tonight.
[19:12:56] <paulej72> yes template toolkit for the front end templates, perl code for the main page logic, which calls corrisponding fuctions in slash perl modules. code for a given piece of logic could be in any of the three depending on what id does.
[19:12:44] <janrinok> Blackmoore: With me submitting and you editing we have covered a good 8 - 12 hours of news!
[19:11:07] <paulej72> fliptop: have a look at the issues list on the the github repo as well. If an issue tickels your fancy, feel free to look into it. you may want to discuss it with TheMightyBuzzard or myself and see if we have insights as some of them are decivingly hard.
[19:11:03] <fliptop> paulej72: i've been using html::template for years and coding in perl since the late 90's. if i'm not mistaken, i seem to remember slash uses template::toolkit, correct?
[19:09:29] <paulej72> The biggest thing about slash is getting used to running a website based on custom built perl modules and the perl template engine. They work together but have slightly different coding styles for the same thing. It is not hard just different, if you are not used to it.
[19:07:58] <paulej72> we all work on our own schdules and it is really fexible. I have not had much time to dedicate to coding recently, but I should be able to get some in soon.
[19:06:52] <fliptop> right-o guys. i'm in the eastern time zone and the time i have would be in the evenings, after chores and such.
[19:06:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Development
[19:06:12] <paulej72> fliptop: sure you can also read http://wiki.soylentnews.org It has info on the VM that we use for some of our development
[19:06:08] <Blackmoore> fliptop: you'll want to coordinate with TheMightyBuzzard
[19:05:50] <Blackmoore> hi!
[19:02:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World-First 'Bionic Bra' Inches Closer to Reality - http://sylnt.us - OSI-is-still-persued-by-creditors
[18:59:32] <fliptop> ok, i read the call-to-erms, i can donate some coding time, how can i help? should i start w/ a fresh git pull and just dive in??
[18:56:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03random in the wild
[18:56:54] <ar> http://www.tedunangst.com
[18:55:16] <fliptop> it's quiet in here right now
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[17:41:00] <Blackmoore> cripes
[17:40:57] <Blackmoore> wasNT
[17:40:53] <Blackmoore> yeah, i figured it was you Ethanol. it was signed.
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[17:38:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Anyway, happy huntings!
[17:37:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I bet Timothy's behind it all. He probably sees my old troll posts in his sleep.
[17:37:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Every once in awhile, okay, haha-FUN-NY. But not 2-3 times every goddamn discussion.
[17:36:30] <Ethanol-fueled> honestly, I'm kinda pissed about it as well, even though I shouldn't be (being a troll and all)
[17:36:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Fellas, that AC troll impersonating me is NOT me.
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[17:31:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Computing Breakthrough and the End of Current Cryptography? - http://sylnt.us - N-hard
[17:30:19] <ar> Markov chains from puppet documentation and works of H.P. Lovecraft
[17:30:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Doom that Came to Puppet
[17:30:01] <ar> http://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com
[16:44:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> fu, bender, i am the 1%
[16:30:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Proposal to Politically re-Empower U.S. Citizenry - http://sylnt.us - we-are-the-99-percent
[16:00:07] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4923, owned by neleai
[16:00:07] <Blackmoore> !uid
[15:53:05] <janrinok> not bad at all
[15:51:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> out of 111 comments
[15:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i was surprised there was only really one troll
[15:50:24] <janrinok> you got some good feedback from yesterday's piece, but you'll never make everyone happy.
[15:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> was trying to get mod-and-post working but slash is being an unholy mess at me again
[15:48:44] <ciri> hehehe
[15:48:43] <janrinok> lol
[15:48:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a gift
[15:48:13] <janrinok> that sounds like something illegal when you write it like that....
[15:47:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> fine fine. you can monkey with bender when he needs it then
[15:46:49] <janrinok> Oh, don't despair, I could have stayed with Ada or CORAL66....
[15:46:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh.
[15:46:05] <janrinok> horses for courses, I suppose. I actually prefer python now
[15:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, how could you? regex use alone is astoundingly worse in python
[15:45:27] <janrinok> Blackmoore: yep - I've just started watching rss-bot....
[15:45:03] <Blackmoore> but now we need to refill the submissions queue
[15:45:01] <janrinok> I used perl about 10 years ago but I admin to changing to the dark side (python)
[15:44:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i've seen slash's and it's damned sure worse in places
[15:44:39] <Blackmoore> hey I'm just lending a hand
[15:44:26] <janrinok> lol - you've not seen my perl code....
[15:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep talking like that and you'll end up shanghaied onto the dev team
[15:43:03] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: good [$appropriate_time_of_day]
[15:42:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> or afternoon i spose
[15:41:59] <janrinok> Blackmoore: afternoon - I came to add a few stories and find that you've beaten me to it
[15:41:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[15:41:18] <Blackmoore> morini janrinok
[15:40:35] <ciri> hey whats up janrinok
[15:40:35] <janrinok> hi guys
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[14:58:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03Major Scaled #2 : REM - "Recovering My Religion" on Vimeo
[14:58:33] <Blackmoore> http://vimeo.com
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[14:49:02] <Blackmoore> that's me in the corner. that's me in the spot-light losing my religion..
[14:48:35] <Blackmoore> damn it. now i have REM stuck in my head.
[14:28:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SoylentNews Needs You - Yes You - Perl Guy / Gal In The Corner, Listen Up! - http://sylnt.us - call-to-erms
[14:20:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah. they're going to one site and redirected to the proper link but they all worked yesterday when i submitted them.
[14:19:34] <Blackmoore> yeah
[14:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, in the article
[14:19:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have links?
[14:19:08] <Blackmoore> links
[14:19:03] <Blackmoore> TMB - i couldnt check your liks while i'm at work, I'm assuming they are good
[14:18:41] <Blackmoore> ok that should keep us in articles for a bit.
[14:14:21] <mechanicjay> Good Morning TheMightyBuzzard
[14:04:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 891
[14:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:04:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Blackmoore, mechanicjay
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[14:01:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[14:01:51] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:01:48] <Blackmoore> mornin
[14:01:44] blackmoore|afk is now known as Blackmoore
[13:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> do note the civil attitude of the GG post and the insane rantage of the douche he was talking to as well.
[13:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, well known and massive corruption inside the IGF. that reply is no surprise.
[13:30:18] <Konomi> heh
[13:30:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03srh on Twitter: "well, #gamergate's operation to proselytize to indie devs sure is going well for them. http://t.co"
[13:30:16] <Konomi> https://twitter.com
[13:28:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Civil Rights Groups Divided on Net Neutrality - http://sylnt.us - good-for-you-good-for-me
[12:47:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes it very much does
[12:43:14] <Konomi> that looks like a good heart attack
[12:17:25] <crutchy> actually i seen some funky custom bbq tools
[12:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i swear though, next thing you know you're going to say something like "oooh, the rare, elusive bandersnatch. it's extremely deadly and loves humans as a food source. watch me stick my finger up its bum."
[12:16:07] <crutchy> u never heard of long tongs?
[12:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> not something you'd want to lean over to turn stuff in the middle really
[12:15:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it is a pretty low angle. looks like about 5-6 feet diameter
[12:15:09] <crutchy> could fit a lot of snaggages on that grill
[12:14:52] <crutchy> but it looks pretty sweet
[12:14:48] <crutchy> unless theres funky camera tricks going on to make it look bigger than it is
[12:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> should prolly make one then
[12:14:09] <crutchy> i never seen a pit that big in aussieland
[12:13:52] <crutchy> 'cept it was kinda reversed
[12:13:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, did you just paul hogan that bitch?
[12:09:45] <crutchy> wholly fkin shitbags. that's not a bbq... *this* is a bbq: http://1.bp.blogspot.com
[12:08:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[12:08:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:03:03] <crutchy> http://www.edgehillbutchery.com.au
[12:03:02] <crutchy> oh. googling 'pepper steak' was a bad idea
[12:01:12] <Bender> karma - pepper_steak: 1
[12:01:12] <crutchy> pepper_steak++
[12:00:59] <crutchy> http://ei.marketwatch.com
[11:56:27] <chromas> better decrement his karma
[11:52:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> and bleh cause the guy with the catalyst repo hasn't updated his gpg key yet.
[11:48:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays! new catalyst driver out with VAAPI support!
[11:47:19] <crutchy> 404 bot not found
[11:47:01] <crutchy> ~weather
[11:46:35] <crutchy> might have an early one tonight. just gotta make kiddywinks lunches for tomorrow
[11:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, bout 20 minutes left until coffee n amphetamines kick in and i can code stuffs. time for some morning news reading.
[11:40:25] <crutchy> saw that too
[11:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer not shitting. and i answered a lot of em.
[11:40:11] <crutchy> looks like you'll never run out of things to do :D
[11:39:56] <crutchy> lots of feedback to the mod article
[11:39:37] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 36
[11:39:36] <crutchy> bewbs++
[11:39:28] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 35
[11:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[11:39:00] <crutchy> a bot is incomplete without a nice pair of bewb functions
[11:37:59] <crutchy> !grope ciri
[11:37:46] <Bender> Added quote 292
[11:37:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab crutchy
[11:37:36] <crutchy> very grabbable
[11:37:20] <Bender> Added quote 291
[11:37:20] <crutchy> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[11:37:18] <chromas> need an nsfw line of soylent swag
[11:37:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> What do we want? Coffee! When do we want it? I'll fucking cut you!
[11:37:08] <crutchy> dammit i was about to grab that
[11:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya, I think it is one or a mug or something.
[11:36:35] <crutchy> tmb, that would make an awesome tee shirt :D
[11:36:18] <crutchy> lol
[11:36:11] <chromas> nibble
[11:36:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> What do we want? Coffee! When do we want it? I'll fucking cut you!
[11:35:43] <crutchy> heh. i don't bite the hand that feeds me
[11:35:29] <chromas> crutchy: sneak some home from work
[11:35:17] <chromas> with a narrow bottom to fit into cup holders
[11:35:08] <crutchy> i usually have a cup at home before work, but for most of the day my coffee is paid for :D
[11:35:00] <chromas> three 64oz cups
[11:34:53] <chromas> that doesn't sound american, tmb
[11:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mostly just need my three 20oz cups in the morning.
[11:34:28] <crutchy> she's not as averse to spending money as me
[11:33:57] <keplr> I need coffe every 8 hours to continue living
[11:33:33] <crutchy> coffee's not that expensive. the missus might get me some tomorrow
[11:32:50] <keplr> A pound of coffee a week isn't much money when you buy whole beans
[11:32:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> sell one, they're easy to make another.
[11:32:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh but you have the family what'd complain incessantly
[11:32:26] <crutchy> the things we do for our kids :p
[11:32:25] <keplr> Coffee is food
[11:32:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads man, coffee before food
[11:31:17] <crutchy> that time of year :/
[11:31:05] <crutchy> money's a little tight this week
[11:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, stuff all replied to. that went better than expected really
[11:30:43] <keplr> Can't you buy more at any corner store? We're not under prohibition
[11:30:03] <crutchy> till i get more
[11:29:58] <crutchy> i'm prolly gunna be a ratty old fart now
[11:29:46] <crutchy> i run out of coffee today :(
[11:28:52] <keplr> Whenever I am drinking coffee, which is always
[11:28:19] <keplr> Have to do that at least once
[11:28:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[11:28:09] <keplr> coffee++
[11:26:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Profile of the Late Ralph Baer - http://sylnt.us - Odyssey-Too
[11:18:49] <crutchy> just makes it a bit harder to figure out if an issue has already been raised
[11:18:26] <crutchy> need to enable setting a title for themightybot's issue submission cos the irc issues are vague unlless you open them
[11:17:08] <crutchy> yeah i wasn't sure if it was a bug. flagged it as an issue though. a minor unimportant one i guess
[11:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, working as expected, not as we'd like on the polls
[11:16:25] * crutchy doesn't mind bars as long as the music is at a level where you can still talk to people without screaming
[11:15:40] <crutchy> most bouncers i've encountered are pretty friendly, unless you do something stupid
[11:15:39] <Konomi> bars so many sweaty people ick
[11:15:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[11:15:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:15:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin all
[11:15:03] <crutchy> heh
[11:14:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> except bouncers
[11:14:48] <crutchy> true. some are better at it than others
[11:13:37] <Konomi> anyone who works in the service industry is paid to be nice to people to
[11:11:07] <crutchy> :p
[11:11:04] <crutchy> i'm paid to be nice to people
[11:10:23] <crutchy> disclaimer: i don't care for friends. i'm a family guy. but i can be friendly and talk to people when i have to
[11:08:40] <crutchy> and that's a much better friendship
[11:08:33] <crutchy> otherwise they will learn to accept you for who you are
[11:08:21] <crutchy> if they don't like you for not being outgoing they're more likely to leave you
[11:08:20] <Konomi> told her to leave me alone ;p
[11:08:03] <crutchy> i just ignore that sort of stuff. people soon get bored trying to pressure you
[11:07:15] <Konomi> one particular annoying person used to always want me to be more "outgoing"
[11:07:01] <crutchy> we choose our friends for all sorts of reasons
[11:06:46] <crutchy> possibly
[11:06:36] <Konomi> just need better friends
[11:06:32] <crutchy> sometimes friends do shit we don't agree with
[11:06:17] <crutchy> if they're your friends though it may not be the best thing
[11:06:05] <crutchy> i guess if you don't like annoying drunks there's not much point hanging around them
[11:05:42] <Konomi> yeah but I already did do that the result is still being around a bunch of annoying drunks ;p
[11:05:39] <crutchy> if people try to be cool, they will always be taken advantage of
[11:05:08] <crutchy> people can choose to if they want, but if you're strong willed enough to resist peer pressure it doesn't matter either way. i went to plenty of drinkathons where i drunk soft drink, and there were always a few snide comments from some, but my closest mates supported me
[11:03:45] <Konomi> people complain about the shut in society because of technology etc but it seems to me that people already have reasons to shut themselves in
[11:03:28] <crutchy> not limited to alcohol abuse
[11:03:15] <crutchy> but if it wasn't cool you wouldn't have done it. peer pressure is an age old problem
[11:02:59] <Konomi> I got sick of being around drunken idiots and just stopped "going out" which is really code for "get drunk" in australia
[11:02:38] <Konomi> the end
[11:02:37] <Konomi> step 1. show up step 2. get drunk
[11:02:28] <Konomi> all my social gatherings that I used to go to before I said fuck it was basically
[11:02:16] <Konomi> yep
[11:02:09] <crutchy> football clubs are one critical aspect, as alcohol cultures often stem from involvement in local sport
[11:01:32] <crutchy> ultimately local communities need to step up and play a role. if families are being broken by alcohol, communities need to support them and find local solutions as they will be far more effective than any federally sanctioned bureaucracy
[11:00:41] <Konomi> close*
[11:00:39] <Konomi> 41 votes difference talk about closs
[11:00:25] <Konomi> from 0 seats to 2
[11:00:21] <Konomi> ha greens picked up another seat in victoria
[10:58:10] <crutchy> i think graphic ads have also had a cultural impact on attitudes towards cigarettes
[10:57:26] <crutchy> maybe similarly graphic ads could change other aspects of alcohol abuse over time too
[10:56:53] <crutchy> a cultural shift is needed. i'm not sure how. i just know that the TAC ads have been effective in changing people's opinions about how cool it was to drink and drive
[10:56:07] <Konomi> well you were talking about a culture shift I wasn't thinking of laws ;p
[10:55:53] <crutchy> laws wont fix that
[10:55:19] <Konomi> yeah sadly the almost killing themselves with over consumption has gone up
[10:54:53] <crutchy> aussies like to drink, but they're less likely to drink and drive today than they were years ago
[10:54:48] <chromas> Australia doesn't have an alcohol problem—it has an alcohol solution!
[10:54:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03Australia's alcohol problem fills doctors with dread at Christmas time | Ranjana Srivastava | Comment is free | The Guardian
[10:54:20] <Konomi> http://www.theguardian.com
[10:54:19] <Konomi> still in my browser
[10:54:17] <crutchy> a lot of what goes on in hospitals is due to alcohol outside cars too though
[10:54:16] <Konomi> in fact
[10:54:01] <crutchy> no doubt
[10:53:52] <Konomi> the abc did some specials awhile back too that would turn your stomach
[10:53:41] <Konomi> some of the stuff they see is beyond horrific
[10:53:35] <Konomi> I just recently read an article in the guardian that was interviewing emergancy stuff
[10:53:30] <crutchy> it was much worse 30 years ago'
[10:53:19] <Konomi> alcohol is a badly ingrained in australia culture
[10:53:18] <crutchy> it already has
[10:53:09] <Konomi> I doubt that will come in our country
[10:53:08] <crutchy> your mates are more likely to stop you drink driving than threat of getting caught by police
[10:52:45] <crutchy> some idiots get caught, and that's good. but cultural shift is more effective
[10:51:43] <crutchy> police stop a few, but likely a very small percentage. booze buses stick out like dogs balls. even drunk people can see them from a mile away
[10:50:47] <Konomi> that is obvious
[10:50:26] <crutchy> people still break laws
[10:50:19] <crutchy> the drink driving ads have had a bigger impact than any laws
[10:48:53] <Konomi> yep legal since settlement
[10:48:15] <Konomi> I don't think our country had prohibition
[10:48:09] <Konomi> and only for the usa
[10:48:05] <Konomi> not sure old data
[10:47:54] <chromas> But did drunk driving incidents go up when alcohol was re-legalized?
[10:47:01] <Konomi> it doesn't have to be perfect it just has to reduce the risk
[10:46:37] <Konomi> you arrest people and make laws against driving drunk because it's more effective than doing nothing
[10:41:22] <crutchy> or transfer function your state space into a probability tree
[10:35:18] <chromas> you might lose traction and slide rule and go off on a tangent
[10:32:52] <crutchy> if you're under the influence of trying to work out a derivative while driving, you're a higher risk of driving into a roadside calculator stand
[10:31:47] <chromas> mathonol
[10:31:37] <crutchy> differentiation is bad, mkay :p
[10:31:25] <chromas> :)
[10:31:16] <ar> don't drink and derive?
[10:31:11] <crutchy> but idiots still do it. laws will never protect us from idiots
[10:31:04] <chromas> that's 'cause you're older now
[10:30:52] <crutchy> its no longer as cool to drink and drive as it used to be
[10:30:26] <ar> you don't actually need a licence to drive a car. you need a car, fuel and keys. the latter being optional
[10:30:16] <chromas> and I know for sure nobody gets high in Portland Oregon
[10:30:12] <crutchy> same as alcohol. even though i kinda like that the police are out there getting drink drivers off the roads, i don't think laws have reduced drink driving; i think its more of a cultural shift due to negative publicity
[10:29:47] <chromas> Now Oregon, Alaska (now that NC moved away) voted to legalize too, so now they're making the same predictions—well, at least OR
[10:29:41] <ar> laws aren't going to stop anyone from driving a car when stoned
[10:29:16] <crutchy> yeah cos we all need laws to stop us from driving around stoned :/
[10:28:59] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[10:28:59] <crutchy> lol
[10:28:48] <chromas> Evidence rolls in that it's just fine and we've still got cops trying to sell the idea we're gonna have kids driving around stoned ('cause nobody was already doing that)
[10:27:43] <chromas> hah! we have that here in washington still
[10:25:33] <crutchy> its like the marajuana debate; some people seem to think that without laws banning marajuana, everyone would be out there smoking it. that somehow laws are needed to prevent most people from doing stupid stuff. they don't seem to realize that stupid people will do stupid stuff regardless of laws, and everyone else wouldn't change their behavior in the absence of laws
[10:23:04] <crutchy> if wikipedia renounced a bunch of their bullshit rules and policies, there would still be people maintaining good quality articles (they aren't doing it at the moment because of wp policies anyway) but there would be less for special interests, trolls and bullies to game with
[10:21:33] <crutchy> ^
[10:21:27] <ar> hell is full of people who had good intentions
[10:20:13] <crutchy> even though the extra rules were likely made with good intentions
[10:19:35] <crutchy> gpl3 made more rules that the FSF can use to bully others for its own political agendas, similar to wp policies
[10:18:25] <keplr> He does, and I love his stance on free expression. That's the closest to a litmus test I have.
[10:18:21] <crutchy> that's the thing; FSF is a special interest
[10:17:59] <crutchy> ive heard linus' take on it. he seems like a practical kinda guy
[10:17:52] <keplr> I'm not a blind FSF follower.
[10:17:37] <keplr> I'm very happy The Kernel is still GPL2.
[10:17:11] <crutchy> that's why gpl2 is so successful. its very loose, with only a very small number of rules
[10:16:50] <keplr> I'm not sure what to do about this one. WP is based on sources, but what do you do when all the sources have cirlces the wagons and procted each other and created a false narrative?
[10:16:25] <crutchy> there doesn't have to be all or nothing
[10:16:12] <crutchy> no, the alternative is a limited number of rules
[10:15:54] <crutchy> laws are generally made with good intention, but there are always unintended consequences]
[10:15:50] <chromas> fork wikipedia!
[10:15:36] <keplr> The alternative seems to be anarchy which wouldn't get anything done at all.
[10:15:11] <crutchy> its the problem with too much government in general: the more laws you make, the more those laws can be bent to suit special interests to the disadvantage of everyone else, and the special interests usually get away with breaking them
[10:14:55] <keplr> He's mostly aloof
[10:14:13] <keplr> This article has gone all the way up to Wales
[10:13:41] <crutchy> article content is usually dictated by campers with nothing better to do than revert any changes they don't like and game the system if anyone challenges them
[10:13:30] <keplr> But since WP uses a set of standards, no one can challenge them since they're following the letter of the law.
[10:13:10] <keplr> And everyone against GG is just rules lawyering. They're not making actual logical arguments.
[10:12:14] <keplr> The talk page is longer than the article
[10:12:13] <crutchy> the real policy is: whoever can bully everyone else decides what goes in the article
[10:12:02] <keplr> Well this article has been under siege for months
[10:11:48] <crutchy> that is their policy, but there are so many articles that flout it that it may as well not be
[10:11:33] <keplr> Then they use those sources to prove that they're not biased
[10:11:17] <crutchy> hah
[10:11:17] <keplr> Which are currently being accused of bias
[10:11:17] <chromas> That's pretty terrible
[10:11:00] <keplr> They only allow reliable sources
[10:10:54] <ar> each wikipedia page has its own policy
[10:10:50] <keplr> Well the one that bothers me is this
[10:10:37] <crutchy> there's about a million wp policies :/
[10:10:24] <keplr> No, it's related to #GamerGate
[10:10:22] <crutchy> oh. what's up with their policy?
[10:10:09] <crutchy> the begathon?
[10:10:03] <keplr> There's a problem with their policy
[10:09:53] <keplr> I wish someone could submit a story about Wikipeida, but no source is covering it.
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[08:24:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel to Upgrade Chip-Test Plant in China - http://sylnt.us - micro-crisps
[08:23:04] <Bender> karma - tranquiliser_dart: 1
[08:23:04] <Konomi> tranquiliser_dart++
[07:58:33] <Bender> karma - recursion: 1
[07:58:33] <JamesNZ> recursion++
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[07:42:28] <chromas> BRRRING ME SOME SWEET CORN!
[07:42:11] <crutchy> nope
[07:41:48] <chromas> Have you played Conker's Bad Fur Day?
[07:41:06] <crutchy> of fountain poo?
[07:40:43] <chromas> a bidet of mountain dew
[07:39:35] <crutchy> that could be a beverage too :[
[07:39:13] <crutchy> lol
[07:38:58] <chromas> ~g'day-add-container ass fountain
[07:32:39] <crutchy> tama, yo mama eats so much fruit she has an ass fountain
[07:32:03] <crutchy> at least its not an ass fountain
[07:31:10] <crutchy> ass drinking fountain
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[07:23:44] <ar> you clean your ass there
[07:23:41] <ar> erm
[07:23:39] <ar> you clean your ass
[07:23:26] <ar> no, it's not a drinking fountain
[07:22:20] <crutchy> ~join #test
[07:17:49] <crutchy> oh that sort of bidet
[07:17:37] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3bidet: A Polish drinking fountain.
[07:17:36] <crutchy> ~define bidet
[07:16:35] <swiss> i now have a bidet coming
[07:16:31] <swiss> woot will be the death of me
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[06:51:20] <exec> https://github.com
[06:51:18] <crutchy> ~slashcode-issue Changing threshold/breakthrough in poll collapses poll results, Not sure if its intended behavior but it was unexpected. Would be nice to keep poll results above comments if threshold/breakthrough is changed.
[06:51:07] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 62
[06:51:06] <Konomi> caffeine++
[06:49:26] <crutchy> hmm. it needs option to set issue title
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[06:47:15] <crutchy> oooh themightybot has slashcode issue creation powahs
[06:45:10] <crutchy> hmm nope still happens on dev
[06:44:17] * crutchy trundles off to test it on dev to see if tmb already squished it
[06:44:09] <chromas> in xchat?
[06:44:02] <JamesNZ> Squish it quick!
[06:43:49] <crutchy> i think i found a bug
[06:43:39] <crutchy> eep
[06:42:29] <crutchy> after backlog scroll
[06:42:04] * crutchy wonders where jugg's submission is?
[06:42:02] <chromas> Are they…sheepish?
[06:41:24] <Bender> karma - tea: 299
[06:41:24] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Caaaaan't let anyone know.
[06:41:07] <JamesNZ> Shhh! It's a secret!
[06:39:54] <crutchy> there is a disturbing pattern to your karmas. do you have sheep pressing keys for you?
[06:39:00] <Bender> karma - tea: 298
[06:39:00] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:38:59] <Bender> karma - tea: 297
[06:38:59] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:38:06] <Bender> karma - vegemite_with_crumpets: 1
[06:38:06] <crutchy> vegemite_with_crumpets++
[06:30:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03How He and His Cronies Stole Russia by Anne Applebaum | The New York Review of Books
[06:30:20] <ar> http://www.nybooks.com
[06:23:45] <chromas> Got my buisness socks on
[06:23:34] <chromas> it's buisness time
[06:22:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Manager Gets Year in Jail and $4.5m Fine for Selling Industry Secrets - http://sylnt.us - just-the-cost-of-buisness
[06:15:05] <ar> >The key is generated from a MD5 hash using the Android ID concatenated with the string 'seems legit...'.
[06:15:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03snapchat-decrypt/README.md at master · programa-stic/snapchat-decrypt · GitHub
[06:15:01] <ar> https://github.com
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[05:59:46] <NetCraft> ^ 03ImperialViolet - The POODLE bites again
[05:59:41] <ar> https://www.imperialviolet.org
[05:32:51] <Bender> karma - pink_slime: 1
[05:32:51] <chromas> pink_slime++ ?
[05:31:46] <Bender> karma - slime: 2
[05:31:46] <JamesNZ> slime++
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[05:16:09] <SeriousLagg> Mkay then. I doubt he cares anyway o/
[05:15:48] <chromas> Noight, sir
[05:15:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> really do need to get some sleep now though. gotta get up in like 5.5 hours
[05:14:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no and that kinda bugs me.
[05:13:54] <chromas> With the mod changes, will there be any way to lose karma besides getting the spankerchief for bad spam mods?
[05:13:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> now if he had been going around saying nice things about jews under his own nick, that we'd have to do something about. like call his shrink and ask if he was okay.
[05:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no rules that i'm aware of. pretty obvious it's an AC and not EF.
[05:10:59] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[05:10:59] <SeriousLagg> TheMightyBuzzard, NCommander, etc.: I'm pretty sure someone is impersonating Ethanol-fueled. Don't know what the rules are on that but couldn't hurt to mention it. http://soylentnews.org
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[04:47:21] <juggs> I'm off to duvet dreams
[04:46:43] <juggs> ah well
[04:46:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not sure I understand that concept
[04:45:51] <juggs> The duvets will serve better when the power goes out.....
[04:44:05] <SpallsHurgenson> it's either that or move my ass :)
[04:42:49] * SpallsHurgenson fires up a few more computers instead :)
[04:36:36] * juggs leaves yet another 15 TOG duvet in SpallsHurgenson's way as a clue.
[04:35:21] * SpallsHurgenson gives the radiator a poke. Come on, ya stupid thing, I got icicles growing in my barbels!
[04:30:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Later, bro.
[04:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, think i'll have me a sleep and see if i can get that pull request for mod work finished up and merged tomorrow.
[04:28:41] <Ethanol-fueled> fuckign libs.
[04:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't smacked a libtard around in a while
[04:28:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, would be pretty fun
[04:27:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah Buzzard, that would be asking for a troll-fight
[04:27:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Which country has 2nd largest social welfare system in the world? • The Register
[04:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> got half a mind to submit this: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:25:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ars can get fucked too
[04:25:33] <ar> http://i.imgur.com - huh
[04:25:22] <Ethanol-fueled> "Rights holders" can get fucked.
[04:23:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03General George Patton’s rights holders go to war with video game maker | Ars Technica
[04:23:37] <SpallsHurgenson> another weird lawsuit: http://arstechnica.com
[04:21:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - French Publishers Prepare Lawsuit against Adblock Plus - http://sylnt.us - feeding-the-hand-that-bites-you
[04:19:17] <chromas> oh, you said 'tug' not 'squeeze'. different doll
[04:18:51] <chromas> http://s9.thisnext.com
[04:18:17] <SpallsHurgenson> seriously, I'm wondering if her head pops off if you give it a tug.
[04:18:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03Star Trek TNG: Worf "Melota" - YouTube
[04:18:10] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:18:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Like this hot babe:
[04:17:34] <SpallsHurgenson> I've seen barbie dolls with more realistic physiques than that
[04:17:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, I am in agreement with you -- i like my girls wth a lil meat on 'em
[04:17:20] <chromas> -n
[04:17:11] * chromas drops a link to the Whitest Kids U Known
[04:16:50] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH cromas, you sick sonofabitch
[04:16:38] <chromas> nothin' wrong with that
[04:16:24] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, either they don't feed that woman or she's been photoshopped near to death
[04:15:24] * SpallsHurgenson saw no popping
[04:15:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> just because: http://images2.fanpop.com
[04:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> then has his own timer
[04:14:31] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: the Regurgitator bot who watches many news feeds popped up with the latest SN posts. I didn't see Bender mention it yet
[04:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, possibly. bender has to wait on the rss feed to be generated
[04:14:06] <Bender> karma - (three boobed woman from total recall): 1
[04:14:06] <Ethanol-fueled> (three boobed woman from Total Recall)++
[04:13:52] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas: I understand the individual words, but put together like that I am left quite confused :)
[04:13:17] <Ethanol-fueled> The uniforms for women got worse further into the future. :(
[04:13:02] <chromas> Did Regurgitator just scoop Bender?
[04:12:58] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm a Crusher guy myself, but trek had many hot babes over the years.
[04:12:17] <SpallsHurgenson> poor woman must need a backbrace :)
[04:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, more trek for you
[04:11:49] * SpallsHurgenson imagines something like Eccentrica Gallumbits, the triple-breasted whore of Eroticon Six (from HHGttG), except moreso
[04:11:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[04:11:47] <SpallsHurgenson> 7 bewbs....
[04:11:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Absolutely not. I'm jealous.
[04:11:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but can you blame him?
[04:10:57] <Ethanol-fueled> IN public?
[04:10:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, did you know that Jeri Ryan's boyfriend made her do things in clubs?
[04:10:48] <SpallsHurgenson> o_0
[04:10:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like 7 cause it reminds me of 7ofBewbs
[04:09:56] <chromas> or as ef would say, se-seven-en
[04:09:42] <SpallsHurgenson> iSystemD :)
[04:09:30] <chromas> ooh, an Apple product: systemd 7
[04:09:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> they need to produce a linux distro. would save them tons of money.
[04:09:28] <Ethanol-fueled> "The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population."
[04:08:21] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... insulted MS, no response. insulted dice, no response. maybe people will wake up if I suggest win10 will use systemd :)
[04:08:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: John B. Calhoun
[04:08:19] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[04:08:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Not John C. Calhoun but John B. Calhoun.
[04:06:51] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a mad world, Spalls. It's the experiments of Calhoun coming to their logical conclusion.
[04:06:24] <SpallsHurgenson> people were already queuing up for Win10 in the hopes it wouldn't suck; it's like MS is trying to lose customers. Did Dice buy out Microsoft or something?
[04:05:44] <Ethanol-fueled> You can't blame Microsoft for trying to innovate, though.
[04:04:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Se7en will probably be the next XP - good enough and used to death.
[04:04:38] <SpallsHurgenson> "well, people were already comparing it to Win7 and we couldn't have that; our new business model is to make products NOBODY wants, like Vista, ribbon-bars, Zunes, and Win8"
[04:04:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, I get the feeling that the big boys will be on Se7en for a while now.
[04:04:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03Microsoft makes a nod to subscriptions for Windows 10 | Ars Technica
[04:03:59] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, Microsoft is considering subscriptions to Win10. http://arstechnica.com
[04:02:30] * SpallsHurgenson deals in very short infinities :)
[04:01:33] <SpallsHurgenson> (where values of "always" equal "the last twenty seconds or so")
[04:01:17] * TheMightyBuzzard skips off cat wrangling
[04:01:11] * SpallsHurgenson learns that "the dickens" is probably a substitute for "the devil". I was always wondering about that
[04:00:34] <Konomi> wonder if that fish picks up hbo
[04:00:24] <Ethanol-fueled> that's not cool, spalls. It's like pulling the wings off a fly. There's no sport in it at all.
[04:00:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Only ever caught one smallmouth out of that lake but it was a little bigger than that one. Maybe three pounds.
[03:59:41] <SpallsHurgenson> and it hurts like the dickens when you take a razor to a barbel :)
[03:59:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, largemouth. can tell by how the jawbone extends back past the eye
[03:59:10] <SpallsHurgenson> they are terrible for straining soup, for one thing
[03:59:06] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:59:02] <SpallsHurgenson> barbels ain't mustaches!
[03:58:41] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com
[03:58:28] <Konomi> carp also do too
[03:58:25] <Konomi> nods
[03:58:16] <Ethanol-fueled> spalls - catfish do.
[03:58:07] <SpallsHurgenson> don't be silly Konomi; fish don't have mustaches!
[03:57:40] <Konomi> fishy
[03:57:21] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, that's a moustache of real men!
[03:57:12] * JamesNZ passes scissors around
[03:56:56] <SpallsHurgenson> Konomi has mustachophobia
[03:56:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, that a smallmouth bass?
[03:56:24] * Konomi hides
[03:56:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Juggs, that is what you call a "hipster mustache"
[03:55:59] <chromas> animated fish.joof
[03:55:22] * SpallsHurgenson wonders if that fish can sing
[03:55:19] * juggs notes too many tabs
[03:55:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> lil being a 18" in this case
[03:54:53] <SpallsHurgenson> (huh, firefox 34 broke flashblock)
[03:54:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[03:54:34] <juggs> By the power of Buzzard's Beard - YOU will learn pearl... and to fish at weekends.
[03:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> don have a foosh handy, would have to photoshop
[03:53:57] <chromas> quick, tmb, take a photo of yourself pointing with one hand, fish in the other
[03:53:46] <juggs> ehh whatever - at least I'm not throwing chairs around
[03:53:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> say "by the power of greyskull" and it's yours
[03:53:43] <SpallsHurgenson> god, a mustache like that would drive me insane
[03:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> could have thrown an image in if you had editor powah
[03:53:14] <chromas> Mustache Power, Activate!
[03:53:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[03:52:56] <juggs> ^^ that kinda stupid thing
[03:52:45] <juggs> http://www.iwmshop.org.uk
[03:52:12] <Bender> Quote 275 - <crutchy> paulej72 is the butt
[03:52:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 275
[03:52:05] <juggs> I didn't have that moment - I was more going for the Kitchener poster pointy finger vibe poster feel.
[03:52:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good
[03:51:26] <Bender> Added quote 290
[03:51:26] <chromas> Bender: grab TheMightyBuzzard
[03:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> hi, have we met? i had to backspace more than once to remove the word "fuck" from my post.
[03:50:18] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, you think that's OK? I thought it was a bit "silly" - but then I was never one for formalities.
[03:48:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i still say we wrangle crutchy, chromas, and konomi onto the team
[03:47:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could also use a web dev or two for to do up css and such. audioguy is a whiz at it but he's otherwise busy pretty often.
[03:46:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> but then i get to taking it personal every time i check the size of the issues queue.
[03:45:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd have even mentioned that we have entirely one dev, one team leader, and one bytram
[03:44:00] <chromas> juggs: just make sure we have to scroll to read the whole thing
[03:43:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, thas fine
[03:43:44] <juggs> in the Q somewhere. I grant you the full authority to have Eds kill it before it goes live though.
[03:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> You already write it up?
[03:43:00] * juggs goes for public speaking tuition
[03:42:37] <juggs> I think I'm letting the NCommander spirit down already. My request for Perl devs was all too needy and not masterful at all :(
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[03:38:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i have like five myself
[03:38:07] <Ethanol-fueled> being retarded is so depressing it's driving me to drink. Be back in a few.
[03:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet, mine's not common then
[03:37:16] <chromas> :( I got back too late to toss out a T-t-Timmay!
[03:36:28] <Leebert> But fair point, I glossed over "common"
[03:36:13] <Leebert> Well, you're a southern californian, "no air conditioning" doesn't really compute with you guys. :)
[03:36:11] <Ethanol-fueled> common = 1 or 2 hard drives, 1 processor, 1 graphics card
[03:35:53] <Leebert> lol
[03:35:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, I'm too retarded to consider that setup "common."
[03:35:40] <Leebert> Needless to say some July and August days make for a warm office. :)
[03:35:07] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: Not really in my case... My virtual server at home has 5 hard drives in it and I don't have air conditioning in my house.
[03:32:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03Beeping flashing Shatner - YouTube
[03:32:29] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[03:32:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Common boxen don't need any other fans than a CPU fan. Everything else is just trying to sell you shit. Agree?
[03:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstanding
[03:31:20] <JamesNZ> Someone actually mistook my lappie's fan for a neighbours vacuum cleaner.
[03:30:59] <SpallsHurgenson> without turning my head I can see 15 LEDs of various colors. I couldn't imagine trying to sleep with those
[03:30:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, if your computer doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner, you're doing cooling wrong.
[03:30:36] <Leebert> Why???
[03:30:34] <Leebert> SpallsHurgenson: OMG THE BLUE LEDs
[03:30:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> and spinning up/down the drives repeatedly is not a good thing for them
[03:30:11] <SpallsHurgenson> Leebert: these days it would probably be less noise than flashing LEDs
[03:29:52] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: I remember it being thermal stresses
[03:29:29] <Ethanol-fueled> there's an urban legend that leaving a computer on is more healthy for it because the initial charging of the capacitors ages the computer faster
[03:29:23] <Leebert> More than once I woke up at some ungodly hour startled by unexpected disk activity
[03:29:04] <Leebert> I do remember the days of sleeping in my parent's basement and hearing the computer all night.
[03:28:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus that's when updatedb and makewhatis and shit run
[03:28:56] * SpallsHurgenson imagines Leebert threatening his PC with a gun and a roll of duct tape
[03:28:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i leave mine on all night for the white noise and the minecraft server it runs
[03:28:28] <Leebert> End of problem.
[03:28:25] <Leebert> I don't allow my computer to make noise.
[03:28:15] * Ethanol-fueled is not important enough to leave his computer on all night
[03:28:09] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Bewbs?"
[03:28:05] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: you thinks juggs should have done that, huh?
[03:27:49] <Ethanol-fueled> hearing all those blips and beeps
[03:27:39] <Leebert> juggs: why would you ever do that?
[03:27:35] <Ethanol-fueled> smart move, juggs. I bet you guys leave your computers on all night, you don't even turn them off before you go to bed.
[03:27:04] * juggs deactivates notifications on mention
[03:27:03] * Leebert fist bumps Ethanol-fueled
[03:26:45] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 34
[03:26:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[03:26:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> and since it always reminds me...
[03:26:28] <Bender> karma - juggs: 46
[03:26:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs++
[03:26:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, that is fair enough. I don't know timothy personally.
[03:26:14] <Leebert> Which I would totally do if someone ever badmouthed juggs.
[03:26:13] <JamesNZ> :D
[03:26:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone unfairly judged by Ethanol-fueled?! never happen.
[03:25:38] <Leebert> I don't want to draw out any discussion about /. I just wanted to make sure timothy wasn't being unfairly judged.
[03:25:19] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: I was quite amazed to learn it actually exists.
[03:24:55] <Ethanol-fueled> JamesNZ: It's all disinfo on the internet.
[03:24:39] * JamesNZ sets the JIDF on Ethanol-fueled
[03:24:32] <Leebert> from what I recall, now that you mention it, it is coming back to me a bit that he posted a few stories about it.
[03:24:23] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah Buzzard.
[03:24:17] <Bender> karma - c4: 1
[03:24:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> c4++
[03:23:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm anti-semtec
[03:23:56] <Leebert> No argument there. On the timothy being the face thing.
[03:23:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Plus, I'm an anti-semite. :)
[03:23:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, timothy became the de-facto face of Slashdot's unfortunate transformation.
[03:23:30] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[03:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't take much talent to write slash code, judging by some of the stuff i've found.
[03:22:53] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: But as to insider information, not really. At least, nothing that wasn't told in confidence. :) Suffice it to say, Dice is in my "evil" bucket.
[03:22:33] <JamesNZ> Paycheck? I need to learn me some Perl!
[03:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, shhhhh, don't tell juggs!
[03:22:08] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, only once you have done your 40 years of servitude, you now this... now back to coding you naughty tyke.
[03:22:01] <Leebert> what more do they need?
[03:21:58] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: they get all the time off they want for fishing.
[03:21:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, SN developers get a paycheck?
[03:21:21] <Leebert> I admittedly don't pay much attention to slashdot-related stuff anymore. Especially since lamer quit and he stopped complaining daily about /. on IRC. :)
[03:20:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> hells yeah. fuck it, juggs, just mail me my paycheck.
[03:20:40] <Ethanol-fueled> If you have any inside information you could legally share, you'd probably have a lot of interest in being heard.
[03:20:25] <Leebert> Anyway, my point is that timothy is, if anything, either just beaten down, or in "fuck it just mail me my paycheck" mode.
[03:20:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, I could be full of shit. You guys likely know some people and things I don't.
[03:19:18] <Leebert> Yikes, looking at his LinkedIn he was there longer than I realized. Says SourceForge since 2000.
[03:19:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, I knew Cowboyneal was one of the oldheads, even if he was relagated to the subject of bad poll jokes.
[03:18:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> so did cowboyneal and i've got some arse to kick upon him for some of the code i've found
[03:18:14] <Leebert> Yeah, that's how I got to know him.
[03:17:59] <Leebert> WAY before Dice ever dreamed of buying it.
[03:17:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Did he? Huh.
[03:17:45] <Leebert> Timothy harkened back to the SourceForge days.
[03:17:36] <Leebert> Eh, I still don't buy it.
[03:16:13] <Ethanol-fueled> that's the point. In those types of situations you keep the deal secret to the public, then bring in a guy from the buyer to learn how the operation is run.
[03:15:26] <Leebert> Timothy has been around far longer than that.
[03:15:18] <Leebert> Wikipedia has the Dice acquisition being in September 2012.
[03:15:05] <Leebert> I don't think it is.
[03:14:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Is that correct? There has to be somebody here who is hardcore into Slashdot history.
[03:14:34] <Ethanol-fueled> (well, excluding KDawson and Michael)
[03:14:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Malda was the first to bail.
[03:13:58] <Ethanol-fueled> timothy was the guy from Dice brought in to learn the lingo and procedures.
[03:13:50] <Leebert> never really talked about that with him, but I was always under the impression that it was Malda's site exclusively.
[03:13:19] <Leebert> "cashed out"? How so? Did timothy have any equity in slashdot?
[03:12:27] <SirFinkus> isn't that the way it always works?
[03:11:48] <Ethanol-fueled> But I'm convinced that they cashed out way before any of us were privy to it.
[03:10:38] <Leebert> On this, we agree.
[03:10:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Slashdot is a rotting carcass.
[03:09:07] <Leebert> Haven't visited in a while, but since unknown_lamer finally quit, I can't imagine there's much left in terms of editorial skill.
[03:08:30] <Leebert> But it isn't like they have a lot of editorial depth there.
[03:07:55] <Leebert> *shrug* I didn't notice.
[03:07:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Read between the lines, leebert. Didn't you think it was funny that timothy started having a greater and greater share of the stories posted?
[03:06:46] <Leebert> Never discussed Beta with him, though, so maybe he did in fact think it was the bee's knees.
[03:06:41] <Ethanol-fueled> you're telling a community they're gonna die, and then they start bleeding to death. Do you try to slow or stop the bleeding, or do you take a hatchet to them?
[03:06:20] <Leebert> Not having seen what he said, I don't know why he said it. But it could well be a "I've tried, I've failed, it ain't gonna happen" attitude coming through.
[03:05:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Look at it from the perspective of an outsider without a stake in the situation. You'
[03:05:07] <Leebert> But for what it's worth, I consider timothy a friend, and one of the good guys (to the extent there are any left) at /.
[03:05:05] <SirFinkus> well, I think a lot of the time Ethanol-fueled's intent is to inflame, not pacify
[03:04:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, he said it in a nice way but was still condescending and showed contempt.
[03:04:22] <Leebert> I don't recall seeing that. But I do find it amusing to hear the venerable Ethanol-fueled denegrating other people's level of tact. :)
[03:04:09] <Ethanol-fueled> In his screed he revealed his contempt for the users.
[03:03:59] <Ethanol-fueled> he wou;d have had much more support had he adopted a more conciliatory and regretful tone.
[03:03:41] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It's done so that I can only read in full lines, deal with it, and then only read in full lines again.
[03:03:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerk
[03:03:15] <Ethanol-fueled> timothy has no tact, in his "beta is here to stay, so suck it users" discussion only served to inflame the community.
[03:03:13] <Subsentient> Because of the nature of IRC and how I'd like to process this data, that's optimal.
[03:02:51] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: It's currently mostly composed of throwaway proof-of-concept code. I'm reading data literally one byte per recv() call.
[03:02:25] <Leebert> because...?
[03:02:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, that was quick, good work.
[03:02:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, timothy is NOT a nice guy.
[03:01:59] <Leebert> c'mon, timothy is a nice guy.
[03:01:51] * Ethanol-fueled giggles sheepishly that we actually did what NetCraft did in the early 2000s and got plenty of serious replies.
[03:01:49] <Subsentient> Still utterly useless but it works so far
[03:01:48] <SpallsHurgenson> everybody in this channel is so helpful!
[03:01:47] <SirFinkus> I have the poop emoji in mine
[03:01:42] <Subsentient> I now have NEXUS supporting single-client pass-through for IRC.
[03:01:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, with me it'd be more like foosh1es
[03:01:25] <SirFinkus> password1
[03:01:19] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[03:01:06] <NetCraft> TheMightyBuzzard: Heya! I've got me a password checkerator module so if you wanna go ahead and pm it to me I can fix ya right up!
[03:01:00] <SpallsHurgenson> Is it hunter6 ?
[03:00:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, if it has a number or a non-alphanumeric character it's not bad.
[03:00:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not the same one you have on your luggage
[02:59:59] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, don't sell yourself short TMB. Your password probably isn't that bad. Here, tell us what it is and let us judge for ourselves
[02:59:40] <chromas> TheMightyPassword
[02:59:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, that's a smart move.
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[02:58:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth be known, my password suuuucks. one of the reasons i don't give myself site admin powers.
[02:58:33] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[02:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> change the password hash to the same as mine, post, change it back when done
[02:57:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Good point, Buzzard.
[02:57:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, i really dunno but we're not sysadmins for nothing.
[02:56:43] <SirFinkus> it might be more subtle if it was monster or something
[02:56:42] <Ethanol-fueled> you guys have the "timothy" username on reserve, right?
[02:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> see now thas proper evil
[02:55:15] <Ethanol-fueled> then you could use the "timothy" account to post in the discussion.
[02:54:56] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah with a fake story saying you were bought by Dice
[02:53:24] * Ethanol-fueled likes that tradition
[02:53:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooooooh, that is so going on the april 1 list
[02:52:49] <SpallsHurgenson> chain him to his desk first, THEN make his eyes bleed :)
[02:52:38] <SirFinkus> or the dice ads in the sidebar
[02:52:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> just you wait till we get the sharks and laser beams in...
[02:52:18] <Ethanol-fueled> At least, you're doing a good job of playing it off if you are.
[02:51:59] <juggs> hm... I bottled that
[02:51:57] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys aren't evil yet.
[02:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like to think we're the most evil corporation. we had a volcano lair kickstarter even.
[02:51:38] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, I'd rather TMB stuck around than his eyes fall out.
[02:51:18] <Ethanol-fueled> The "P" in Pearson stands for "product placement"
[02:50:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Two of America's most evil corporations, Apple and Pearson, robbing the taxpayers blind.
[02:50:48] <SirFinkus> 5 was ok, but there was a dropoff
[02:50:35] <Bender> karma - jenna_fischer_seasons_one_through_four: 1
[02:50:35] <SirFinkus> jenna_fischer_seasons_one_through_four++
[02:50:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Good story.
[02:50:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Los Angeles Schools iPad Program Target of Federal Criminal Probe - http://sylnt.us - too-good-to-be-true
[02:48:40] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 9
[02:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson++ for remembering that
[02:48:25] * SpallsHurgenson starts singing, "Where there's a whip <crack> there's a way!"
[02:48:09] <Ethanol-fueled> True dat
[02:48:06] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah
[02:47:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just give em more and they stfu
[02:47:27] <SpallsHurgenson> c'mon juggs, don't go all easy on TheMightyBuzzard like NCommander did; work him till his eyes bleed :)
[02:47:25] <Ethanol-fueled> you'd think it would make them as cool as it does in the movies.
[02:47:11] <Ethanol-fueled> heroin makes people whiny though.
[02:46:55] <Bender> karma - (hardcore drugs): 1
[02:46:54] <Ethanol-fueled> (hardcore drugs)++
[02:46:38] <Ethanol-fueled> hard-core drugs!
[02:46:31] <SpallsHurgenson> less coffee, more hard-core drugs
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[02:46:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep's not an issue. only having about 5-6 good coding hours a day in me is.
[02:45:33] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB is sleeping 6 hours a day. He can do with less :)
[02:45:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, noooooo shit.
[02:45:02] <juggs> We need minions in dev. TMB and paulej72 are carrying it right now - that's fragile - not saying they are fragile, just saying the amount of resource we have in that area is too little.
[02:42:34] <SpallsHurgenson> there's nothing wrong with giving TMB more work :)
[02:36:56] <juggs> TMB, you do realise that most of your answers are setting yourself up for a shed load more work in the future :D
[02:33:26] <juggs> There seems to be a lot of names commenting that I haven't seen doing a lot of commenting before on this - that's really interesting
[02:31:42] <juggs> Good work Buzzsaw. I feel I need to get hands on with The Experiment to comment - I always did need to tear stuff apart with my own hands rather than read about it though - I'm dumb like that :D
[02:30:52] <chromas> new comments; replies to your replies
[02:30:45] <chromas> Now you have to start over
[02:27:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays! finally done!
[02:23:54] <juggs> you fooled ciri - you should be proud
[02:23:24] * SpallsHurgenson is unsurprised that did not work
[02:23:14] <Bender> karma - tea: 296
[02:23:14] <SpallsHurgenson> tea--
[02:23:13] * SpallsHurgenson pretends to be clever:
[02:22:51] <JamesNZ> ;)
[02:22:40] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm, cheating :)
[02:22:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[02:22:35] <SpallsHurgenson> coffee++
[02:22:04] <Bender> karma - tea: 297
[02:22:04] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:22:03] <Bender> karma - tea: 296
[02:22:03] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:17:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[02:17:57] <juggs> Quite near the top https://soylentnews.org
[02:17:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> takes a while when you stop to reply to half the posts.
[02:17:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't hit any api discussion yet, still working my way down.
[02:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> funkay
[02:17:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i know
[02:16:53] <juggs> TMB, this discussion is turning out really great - interesting comments about using the api to build out 3rd party spam assassins and the like. I didn't think anyone was even watching what was going on with the api.
[02:16:30] <Bender> karma - ms_tessmacher: 1
[02:16:30] <SpallsHurgenson> Ms_Tessmacher++
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[02:13:43] <Bender> karma - oatis: 1
[02:13:43] <SirFinkus> oatis++
[02:12:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno what that means, but I like to say it: fooosh!
[02:11:55] <SpallsHurgenson> fffffooooossshhhh!
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[02:06:33] <juggs> porridge is a good cold morning fooshing fuel
[02:05:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i have some of their oats in my cabinet.
[02:05:21] <juggs> TMB, do you have Quakers in your heritage?
[02:00:30] <juggs> Sounds like you are scratching an itch, good work
[02:00:22] * arti sets subsentient +cowboy
[02:00:15] <Subsentient> And aqu4's proven pretty damn stable :^3
[01:59:50] <Subsentient> I didn't with aqu4 and I won't here either,
[01:59:50] <ciri> lol damn!
[01:59:50] <juggs> lol
[01:59:40] <Subsentient> NEXUS will have just enough valid IRC protocol to get clients to play nice. I don't plan to read any fucking RFC.
[01:59:21] <SpallsHurgenson> nothing that makes IRC easier to use is a good idea; IRC is enough of a time sink already
[01:59:05] <arti> more code for the code god.
[01:59:01] <Subsentient> From what I can tell, no.
[01:58:50] <juggs> host your own znc or psyBNC or w/e - no idea if the aggregate in the way you want though
[01:58:50] <Subsentient> NEXUS will require port forwarding if you want to use it outside your LAN but other than that, it's a pseudo-server.
[01:58:30] <arti> :/
[01:58:16] <Subsentient> and a lot of BNC services seem to be pay anyways
[01:58:07] <Subsentient> I guess not
[01:57:10] <Subsentient> I don't know.
[01:56:53] <juggs> sounds neat. Not a problem I have, but I can definitely see it would be useful. Don't any of the existing bouncers cater for that?
[01:56:39] <arti> you mentioned c99
[01:56:20] <arti> doing anything special with it?
[01:55:58] <Subsentient> I often have multiple machines open and I get pissed at Subsentient Subsentient1 Subsentient2 Subsentient3 so NEXUS is my solution to that problem
[01:55:05] <juggs> nod nod
[01:55:04] <Subsentient> message Subsentient and all 12 IRC clients get it
[01:54:57] <Subsentient> and they all point to a NEXUS server, and NEXUS has all 12 clients treated as one
[01:54:45] <juggs> ahh - irc proxy
[01:54:42] <arti> so it's a bouncer?
[01:54:33] <juggs> I always get confused - it's my forte :D
[01:54:33] <Subsentient> so I can have xchat open on 12 devices
[01:54:23] <Subsentient> NEXUS is designed to merge multiple IRC devices into one nick on one server
[01:54:17] <arti> wat.
[01:54:09] <Subsentient> juggs: Yes Epoch is my Init System. NEXUS is an IRC agreggator of sorts, but don't get confused.
[01:53:44] <juggs> Subsentient, Epoch is your init right? Where does NEXUS fit in?
[01:52:32] <Subsentient> And I'm booted from it now.
[01:52:27] <Subsentient> And it works. Good.
[01:52:24] <Subsentient> And it's done.
[01:52:17] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: No, this is my systemd replacement: http://universe2.us
[01:52:15] * TheMightyBuzzard goes back to the ever-growing thread
[01:51:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, is that your systemd replacement?
[01:51:46] <NetCraft> Karma - --€: -1
[01:51:46] <arti> ----€
[01:51:25] * arti stabs it with a pitch spork
[01:51:00] <Subsentient> I decided to use C99 for NEXUS. I generally prefer C89 but in this case I can see it'll make things easier.
[01:50:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, smooth. lemme know how it goes.
[01:49:36] <arti> g'day sub
[01:49:30] <arti> interesting experiement
[01:49:30] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: BTW, I am indeed working on NEXUS. It's coming along nicely. Still in early non-functional stages.
[01:49:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: How Do You Move Away From Framesets? - http://sylnt.us - biting-the-hand
[01:49:19] <arti> it was rewritten in many languages
[01:49:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, closer to 20 i think
[01:49:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, it probably smells horrible by now.
[01:48:55] <arti> longer.
[01:48:51] <chromas> it might even have a slashd unit
[01:48:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Wasn't it in development for like 10 years?
[01:48:36] <SpallsHurgenson> once again love proves to be the ultimate source of evil
[01:48:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ... and copious amounts of drugs.
[01:48:16] <arti> it's because it was built over time, with love.
[01:48:06] <arti> i can field that!
[01:47:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right? wtf was with the idea of being able to rewrite the syntax and everything and throw up an interpreter so different it's not even recognizable as the same language?
[01:47:12] <arti> "no, because $reasons"
[01:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly though i won't have time if i wanna keep working on the site.
[01:46:28] <arti> the meatball of languages.
[01:46:16] <arti> just curious ^_^
[01:46:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ... ima pass. it's trying to be too much at once.
[01:45:32] <juggs> :D
[01:45:25] <arti> awkward.
[01:45:19] <arti> it's coming!
[01:45:19] <juggs> It's a grower!
[01:45:17] <arti> tmb, are you going to pick up perl 6?
[01:45:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm STILL trying to hit bottom on it
[01:44:58] <arti> did you bite your tongue or something?
[01:44:49] <arti> 'biting incident'
[01:44:27] <juggs> ooo-kay, I'm going back to reading TMB's discussion thread
[01:44:27] <Konomi> it's okay I've been up a bit the whole biting incident won't happen this time
[01:44:06] <arti> especially if you have really white teeth
[01:43:42] <arti> you should do it with blackface
[01:43:33] * juggs vaguely waves g'day to Konomi from a safe distance so as not to spook her
[01:43:31] <arti> half man, half bot, half pig.
[01:42:37] <arti> what's a tortoise
[01:42:20] <juggs> arti is T1600 to exec's T800 - where the hell is decker with that test kit!
[01:42:20] <ciri> hi there arti
[01:42:20] <arti> g'day soylentils
[01:42:19] <Konomi> ._.
[01:42:10] <arti> :|
[01:41:56] * arti grabs tongue
[01:41:47] * Konomi yawns
[01:41:35] <arti> i know, son.
[01:41:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't get it, arti.
[01:41:10] <arti> bonus if you make whistling sounds
[01:40:53] <arti> use an electrical cord for great justice.
[01:37:40] <Ethanol-fueled> right-of-the pondian or left-pondian
[01:37:33] <juggs> I must castigate the cleaning wench for upending my globe
[01:37:22] <Ethanol-fueled> In American maps England is to the right.
[01:37:13] <chromas> Spending too much time with crutchy
[01:37:02] <juggs> hmm... seems my globe was upside down... I'm right-pondian!
[01:36:44] <chromas> We have all kinds of names for our friendly neighbors to the south
[01:36:02] <juggs> I honestly didn't know that. I am left pondian, so not surprising really.
[01:35:32] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[01:35:30] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[01:35:29] <Ethanol-fueled> LOL "frijolero"
[01:35:22] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3beaner: In Spanish, frijolero, just a Mexican (Someone from Mexico)! Not necessarily an immigrant! No me llames frijolero, Pinche gringo puñetero. Chingado!!
[01:35:21] <chromas> Old bean—Good; Beaner—ef
[01:35:20] <juggs> ~define beaner
[01:35:05] <chromas> er
[01:35:02] <juggs> such as?
[01:34:52] <chromas> Our beans have suffixes 'round here
[01:34:38] <chromas> er
[01:34:17] <juggs> I assure you old chap, "old bean" far predates you united states of america as a phrase.
[01:33:48] <chromas> Is that enough?
[01:33:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Those street protestors weren't lying. There is oppression everywhere!
[01:33:24] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm 12.5% HISPANIC!
[01:33:18] <Ethanol-fueled> you called me a BEAN?!
[01:33:05] <Bender> karma - tea: 295
[01:33:05] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:33:05] <Bender> karma - tea: 294
[01:33:04] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:33:00] <Ethanol-fueled> check your White privilege.
[01:32:58] <juggs> how so old bean?
[01:32:43] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, you're racist.
[01:32:38] * Ethanol-fueled checks logs
[01:31:50] <juggs> I'm not sure what came over me. Please do excuse my rambling.
[01:31:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I think the cat is stepping on jugg's keyboard or somethin'
[01:30:58] <juggs> I need to work in an "innit" I suppose
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[01:30:23] <juggs> check out ma rims bro
[01:30:07] <juggs> thas phat man!
[01:29:46] <chromas> Yo yoyo! Tops! Tiddly winks and jacks
[01:29:23] <juggs> ~shrugs~
[01:29:19] <juggs> or something
[01:29:16] <juggs> word
[01:29:03] <chromas> streetlife.dogg
[01:28:54] <chromas> but juggs, are you from da street?
[01:28:05] <juggs> must be good though, the letterhead has various "as featured in:" logos from magazines like woman&home
[01:28:01] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, I wanted to register for a new zealand company :(
[01:27:09] <juggs> this one is from streetlife.com - presume it's something similar
[01:25:03] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, all they really need is an email and street address... say, where does the Grand High Sheep-Dipper of New Zealand hang his hat? :)
[01:23:30] * SpallsHurgenson types in a random invitation code to see what happens
[01:22:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Neighbourly - The private and free neighbourhood website for New Zealand
[01:22:51] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.neighbourly.co.nz ?
[01:21:56] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, so that's what that button does
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[01:19:25] <juggs> OK - so they send a letter to "The lovely person who lives at.... $ADDRESS" - the letter has a code required to be entered to join the social network. So no joining anonymously.
[01:17:37] <SpallsHurgenson> option 1) ignore the good posts, option 2) write fast and awful responses, option 3) hire cheap offshore labor to respond for you, option 4) get higher standards as to what is considered an "interesting post"
[01:17:19] <juggs> EXACTLY ciri!
[01:17:09] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[01:17:09] <juggs> How much do I want to open an envelope that plopped into my mailbox today with this emblazoned on the front: "Inside... your invitation to join the neighbourly social network."
[01:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> man it's lotsa work answering this many interesting posts
[01:16:00] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[01:15:58] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, good idea! those burn well. They go up with a... well you know :)
[01:15:27] * juggs opens the wood stove
[01:15:16] <juggs> I shall cherish that
[01:15:01] * SpallsHurgenson hands juggs a custom-made wood-carved "whoosh"
[01:14:12] <juggs> I'd say quite the opposite, hosting and vps costs have fallen for as long as I've been meddling with them.
[01:13:19] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I recycle all my bits
[01:13:07] <SpallsHurgenson> hosting always gets more expensive; bits are a limited resource and we are swiftly running out of them
[01:08:24] <juggs> ignores what? >.>
[01:08:10] * SpallsHurgenson ignores that as he prefers to assume something far more exciting :)
[01:07:35] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, hosting costs etc. blah
[01:07:15] <juggs> I did a price comparison yesterday linode vs digitalocean - bearing in mind DO touted themselves as the cheap as chips offering when they went heavy on marketing. Turns out linodes vps costs are pretty much the same now.
[01:06:49] * SpallsHurgenson comes in to hear about "jiggery-pokery" and how "it increases but rarely shrinks" and wonders what sort of discussion he has wandered into
[01:05:27] <juggs> Unless linode have a refresh and sell more for less of course
[01:04:54] <juggs> I can't see it shrinking, but could certainly increase
[01:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> hosting costs may change but that can easily be rolled in
[01:03:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> more or less.
[01:03:48] <juggs> hmm - still need the same total amount each FY.
[01:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> no jiggery-pokery, just straight up.
[01:03:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> just gross income YTD
[01:02:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't count the pre-paid months though, we're going to have to do exactly the same next year.
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[01:02:00] <juggs> I'd do a quick post to explain of course
[01:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[01:01:28] <juggs> would make it simpler for mrcool to keep current as it would just be the current income figure from quickbooks at any given time
[01:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, prolly should.
[01:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm... dunno
[00:55:26] <juggs> hmm, think we ought to reset the beg-o-meter to $0 when we hit financial year-end? :/
[00:54:34] <juggs> serves me right for looking in the non-obvious places first :D
[00:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, sorry, was replying. main page.
[00:50:23] <juggs> indeed ciri, indeed
[00:50:12] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question juggs
[00:50:11] <juggs> where have you posted it?
[00:49:58] <juggs> whatever works, 15.01 is probably best given the happy holiday madness
[00:43:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> dang, up to 42 comments now
[00:41:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather fix a few more minor bugs and do things like roll in the easy to accommodate suggestions from users on moderation though.
[00:41:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, could probably hit late 12 if we really pushed it and skimped on the traditional two weeks testing.
[00:34:02] <juggs> It's all good amongst friends
[00:33:55] <Leebert> Anyway, way too much information and internal dialog.
[00:33:26] <Leebert> juggs: well, it was reciprocated so we'll all end up paying the same for the trip. Well, except the train; I paid for that. But the football tickets weren't cheap either.
[00:31:46] <juggs> Jolly decent of you
[00:30:55] <Leebert> I just put them all on my card because it was the quickest way to get through the line.
[00:30:39] <Leebert> It's not as bad as I'm pretending... I was traveling with 3 other people.
[00:29:33] <juggs> ouch
[00:28:15] <Leebert> That moment when you come home, look at your credit card pending charges, see "12/06/14 WDW-T-MAGIC KINGDOM $421.76", and wonder if it really was THAT all that magical... :)