#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-07

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[00:00:40] <Wierd0n3> look at the posts, i have no idea what the timeouts are for a single ip, but all those posts were done from 6:37 to 6:56. concivably 9 posts from the same idiot
[00:01:43] <crutchy> that's about 1 post every 2 minutes 11 seconds
[00:01:48] <crutchy> seems about right
[00:02:12] <crutchy> i thought the limit was 1 post per minute but i'm not sure
[00:02:46] <crutchy> i think we're also a little more lax here than /. just cos we're still finding our feet somewhat
[00:02:58] <Wierd0n3> huh, i had no idea it was so low
[00:03:55] <crutchy> it might be 1 post every 2 mins. would have to ask TheMightyBuzzard or check out the reskeys table (though values may differ on live server)
[00:04:53] <Wierd0n3> 1 every 2 minutes meets exactly the posting frequency on the denver police article, so that must be it.
[00:05:49] <crutchy> sounds about right
[00:06:38] <Wierd0n3> so, for the moment, only choice is to bump my viewing up
[00:07:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> are no throttles on posting comments currently. we took em out to make you lot happy.
[00:07:57] <crutchy> Wierd0n3, https://github.com
[00:07:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03slashcode/mysql_dump.sql at master · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[00:08:16] <crutchy> prolly not exackery same as prod, but might shed some light
[00:08:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, there are NO throttles on posting comments right now. no reskeys. no formkeys. no diddly.
[00:09:20] <crutchy> whoa i didn't realize that
[00:09:38] <Wierd0n3> well, i guess you can't please everyone lol
[00:09:44] <crutchy> prolly wouldn't go advertising that, cos that might be a bot magnet
[00:10:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> now what's the beef? spammer?
[00:11:01] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[00:11:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> quality nap, that, by the way
[00:12:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - More Follow-Up to Sony Hack - http://sylnt.us - raising-the-stakes
[00:12:49] <Wierd0n3> i was just pointing out a AC that made a few threads in the rovio and denver police articles, i thought maybe the spamming filter was not working, but it seems you don't have one on lol
[00:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> would have let one every 2m through even if it was. we used to choke at like 30s-1m
[00:17:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers for the heads up though
[00:17:56] <Wierd0n3> and people were complaining at 30s delay? wow. thanks for the info though
[00:19:49] -!- Ethanol-fueled [Ethanol-fueled!~ae444644@eo888-39-22-58.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #Soylent
[00:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> this'll be easier to spot with the mod changes and -1 Spam mod in
[00:22:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, mrcoolbp, juggs, any of you around to deal with a douchebag spammer?
[00:22:44] * Ethanol-fueled goes and looks at the spam
[00:23:49] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAH
[00:24:01] <Ethanol-fueled> That guy should be gibbin a medal.
[00:24:14] * TheMightyBuzzard smakes Ethanol-fueled
[00:24:29] <Ethanol-fueled> you can smake my snake
[00:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> shaddup or i'll give you the ban hammer and make you do it.
[00:24:46] <Ethanol-fueled> but it wasn't me.
[00:24:58] <Ethanol-fueled> in case you were wondering.
[00:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, your trolls are better
[00:25:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> this douche's is just lame and boring and spammy
[00:25:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, the Dane Cook of spammers
[00:25:55] <Ethanol-fueled> maybe with a little Andrew DIce Clay
[00:26:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna go with carrot top but yeah
[00:27:19] <Ethanol-fueled> beb, gonna go dye hair. (it's depressing when you're 33 and even your chest hair is going grey ;_; )
[00:27:48] <Wierd0n3> im the same age..... at least you still have your hair
[00:28:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's both turning grey and turning loose but then i'm more like 40
[00:35:26] <juggs> hey TheMightyBuzzard - don't think I have the privs to do anything about it - and if I did I wouldn't know how :D
[00:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, more or less the same. i dunno where to put an ipid for a ban
[00:37:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> easy nuff to delete em though if you got the privs
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[00:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can technically give out privs but it ain't my call to do so and i ain't got any myself on the live server
[00:40:02] <juggs> kinda defeats the point of having the ban option - and wouldn't doing so leave orphaned comments?
[00:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> in some cases but nobody's replied to any of these
[00:40:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> least on the Rovio story
[00:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ipid bans are about as useful as ip bans in irc though, which is to say not especially at all
[00:43:31] <juggs> as is banning an account, too easy to just create a thousand more
[00:43:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> were all AC comments
[00:43:59] -!- FunPika [FunPika!~FunPika@Soylent/Staff/Wiki/FunPika] has joined #Soylent
[00:43:59] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v FunPika] by juggler
[00:44:23] <juggs> nothing to do but swat the IPs away then ~sigh~
[00:44:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas a paulej72 thing then, have to wait on him to get handy unless NCommander happens to be around
[00:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i'm bout to go eat some foods in a few minutes. they're here: https://soylentnews.org and here: https://soylentnews.org
[00:46:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Rovio Lays Off 110 People as Angry Birds Hype Fades 04(40 comments)
[00:46:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Police in Denver to Use Olfactometers for Cannabis Odour Mapping 04(40 comments)
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[01:11:01] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:11:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[01:11:02] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:11:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[01:11:07] <JamesNZ> O_O
[01:21:39] <Ethanol-fueled> It's wine time.
[01:21:43] <Ethanol-fueled> *slurp*
[01:21:56] <juggs> rut roh
[01:22:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Those were some funny trolls.
[01:22:43] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@zpxp-61-722-720-748.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #Soylent
[01:23:03] * Ethanol-fueled wonders if the recently departed NCommander is behind them
[01:23:09] <JamesNZ> $beer Ethanol-fueled
[01:23:09] * aqu4 gives Ethanol-fueled a cold can of beer
[01:23:23] <juggs> NCommander didn't depart
[01:23:33] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander seems like the kinda guy who would totally do that if he was a mean drunk. But some drunks aren't mean.
[01:23:34] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs KILLED him
[01:23:37] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[01:23:40] <JamesNZ> :o
[01:23:52] <Ethanol-fueled> et tu brute'?
[01:24:20] <Ethanol-fueled> they lured him out to the boonies, then pounced on him and pokes his most sensitive nipple with a red-hot poker.
[01:24:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Mrcoolbp loves those get-togethers.
[01:25:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I for one welcome our new boobacious overlord
[01:25:40] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs is a lower-tier adult magazine in the U.S.
[01:26:16] <Ethanol-fueled> The "J" and the two "G's in its stylized logo are voluptuous and plunge below the other letters.
[01:26:42] <Ethanol-fueled> you can look it up in wikipedia for a SFW cover
[01:27:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I know this because I used to steal them from the top shelf of my parents' closet when I was a young lad.
[01:27:12] <juggs> I'll take your word for it
[01:27:13] <JamesNZ> Jeepers, you're right. I thought you were just kidding.
[01:29:09] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.4cdn.org
[01:29:14] <Ethanol-fueled> safe for work and nerd-related
[01:31:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. saw a video like that somewheres
[01:32:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[01:32:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Star Trek christmas song Make It So - YouTube
[01:32:35] <SpallsHurgenson> Picard is so bald.
[01:33:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> this is true
[01:33:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Picard is awesome.
[01:33:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i only watch it for the Shut Up Wesley
[01:33:34] <Ethanol-fueled> too bad he's a Frenchman.
[01:33:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Wheaton needs to hear that daily.
[01:33:58] <Ethanol-fueled> We should invite clevernickname over
[01:34:04] <SpallsHurgenson> Wil Wheaton is cool now :)
[01:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, he's still a douche
[01:34:32] <Ethanol-fueled> at least the writers were smart enough to acknowledge that he was annoying
[01:34:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's just branched out in his varieties of douchiness
[01:35:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> on eureka or that faux-nerd show that i don't remember the name of?
[01:35:25] <Ethanol-fueled> they could have tolerated his BS like Orko or Bumblebee, or they could have played the "he's so cute" angle like the baby dinosaus in "Dinosaurs"
[01:37:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh on TNG. yeah i really hated wesley episodes. they were even worse than the space hippies let's all sit in a circle and stroke each others' cocks episodes.
[01:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> outside the borg episodes, TNG never happened as far as I'm concerned.
[01:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> you want good trek you bust out TOS A Piece of the Action.
[01:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> kirk in a fuzzy purple pimp hat with machine guns
[01:39:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Mister.......Spock.........the...........aliens...........are............attacking!
[01:41:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> kirk didn't find a way to resolve things peacefully with the romulans or the klingons so they could all go to the hookah bar later, he blew em the fuck up.
[01:42:43] <SpallsHurgenson> only good thing about TOS was the design of the original Enterprise. And maybe Scotty.
[01:43:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you sir have no taste whatsoever
[01:43:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i went to a hookah bar once. had to for some chick friend's birthday party.
[01:43:39] <SpallsHurgenson> Enterprise-D always reminded me of a hooded cobra with downs syndrome.
[01:43:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[01:43:57] <Ethanol-fueled> enterprise-D also has wimpy-looking nacelles.
[01:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> voyager looked like some sort of vibrating marital aid
[01:44:05] <Ethanol-fueled> but dat separation, man
[01:44:05] <SpallsHurgenson> movie-Enterprise was the best.
[01:44:17] <Ethanol-fueled> which movie-enterprise?
[01:44:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Don't say the new one that looks like Apple products
[01:44:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, there was the regular one in The Movie then there was the -A later
[01:45:14] <SpallsHurgenson> Enterprise's Enterprise was okay. Defiant was okay. Enterprise-E (Sovereign class) was okay. Enterprise NCC-1701 Refit was da bomb
[01:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, you sir prolly played STO
[01:45:43] <SpallsHurgenson> reboot Enterprise looks like something a three-year old would draw
[01:46:23] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB: no, I'm a scifi nerd not an MMO nerd :)
[01:46:39] <SpallsHurgenson> (although that's probably the last time I refer to Star Trek as sci-fi :) :) :):
[01:46:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> reboot.... yerg.... lense flare... fucked up wrath of khan...
[01:47:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> was sci-fi. not archtypical sci-fi but it fit the definition.
[01:47:38] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[01:47:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Force Awakens Teaser - Crazy Lens Flare Edition - Star Wars Episode VII - YouTube
[01:48:03] <SpallsHurgenson> aka the JJ Abrams definitive edition trailer :)
[01:48:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. i ain't watchin a trailer over a year away from the movie unless it's deadpool
[01:49:32] <JamesNZ> There was a Deadpool trailer a month or two ago.
[01:49:55] <JamesNZ> s/trailer/test/
[01:49:56] <sedctl> <JamesNZ> There was a Deadpool test a month or two ago.
[01:50:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, except that Deadpool will be a gay black man.
[01:50:04] <SpallsHurgenson> don't worry, you won't see anything. It's Lensflaretastic!
[01:50:35] <chromas> There's a Plinket review of the trailer
[01:50:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, https://www.youtube.com that one?
[01:50:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03Deadpool - Leaked Test Footage [HD] Ryan Reynolds - YouTube
[01:50:54] <SpallsHurgenson> Plinkett's reviews were worth watching before the character took over
[01:50:57] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Yep, that's it.
[01:51:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. it gave me a special feeling in my trousers.
[01:51:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I wish Plinkett would just make his point without all the bad acting
[01:52:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's a plinkett?
[01:52:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> that the game where you drop the little disk down past the pegs on the price is right?
[01:53:42] <SpallsHurgenson> an online movie reviewer who brings up some pertinent points whose gimmick is that he's some creepy basement-dwelling loser. He made a name for himself with an hour-long point-by-point review of Star Wars I and has been coasting on that success ever since
[01:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, so a lameass.
[01:55:30] <SpallsHurgenson> I think the point of the assumed persona in the original review was as an example of a shallow unappealing character can bring down even something worth watching (e.g., baby Anakin or JarJar) but he's been reusing the character for all his other reviews
[01:56:02] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB: except he does make bring up some good points and obviously has a good understanding of cinematography and storytelling.
[01:56:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Star Wars was one big collective suck. No one bad character brought it down.
[01:56:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Star Wars I thru III, that is.
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[01:57:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled++
[01:58:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, you can't be ++ed
[01:58:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Goo-goo Ga-ga dialogue, "booboobooboobooweebeebeebee" sound effects, wooden acting that can only come from CGI post-processing.
[01:58:22] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[01:58:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[01:58:27] <JamesNZ> Bender doesn't play nice with dashes.
[01:58:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:58:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[01:58:29] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:58:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[01:58:30] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:58:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[01:58:39] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa... coffee has been reset?
[01:58:51] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Evidently so.
[01:58:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[01:58:54] <SpallsHurgenson> or did it roll over once it hit 9999? :)
[01:59:00] * SirFinkus grumbles
[01:59:04] <JamesNZ> Hah :P
[01:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, did that this morning while i was fixing the twitter feed's fucked up encoding
[01:59:14] <SirFinkus> fucking power was out for 12 hours because some jackass drove into the pole
[01:59:14] <Ethanol-fueled> That morning iced coffee with no ice gave me the strength to power through 2 big assignments and a bunch of small once.
[01:59:17] <SirFinkus> I hope he died
[01:59:29] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Did the guilt overwhelm you?
[01:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, i don't do guilt
[02:00:08] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[02:00:20] <SirFinkus> today we learned that TMB is a psycopath
[02:00:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're just learning that? dude...
[02:00:45] <SirFinkus> anyway, I've got 2 arrogant bastards and I'm ready to party
[02:00:55] <Ethanol-fueled> You are too, Finkus, for saying somebody deserved to die because you didn't have power to watch porn for 12 hours.
[02:00:56] <JamesNZ> You mean, kids? :P
[02:01:21] <SirFinkus> no, this is on a different scale
[02:01:28] <SirFinkus> I might feel bad about saying that in the morning
[02:01:41] <SirFinkus> or not, I didn't know them
[02:01:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--- I take this daily. http://www.drugs.com
[02:01:43] <NetCraft> ^ 03Abilify: Uses, Dosage & Side Effects - Drugs.com
[02:02:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice, buzzard. I used to take a drug in that class.
[02:02:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Decided being insane was more fun.
[02:02:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> really doesn't do much compared to the amphetamines though
[02:02:30] <SirFinkus> I take Teamocil daily
[02:02:57] <SirFinkus> There's no 'i' in Teamocil, at least not where you think.
[02:03:12] <Ethanol-fueled> (booze and grass)++
[02:03:12] <Bender> karma - (booze and grass): 1
[02:03:16] <SpallsHurgenson> I take... erm... wait, I'm not medicated at all :)
[02:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> this explains much
[02:03:26] <JamesNZ> Is grass some kind of drug?
[02:03:47] * SpallsHurgenson is all natural; organic and free-range :)
[02:03:47] <Ethanol-fueled> grass == pot
[02:04:01] * SpallsHurgenson gambols naked through the fields
[02:04:02] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[02:04:09] <Konomi> when you reduce it down to something like that it looks really silly
[02:04:13] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Think of the children!
[02:04:17] <Konomi> ~define grass
[02:04:19] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3grass: Marijuana
[02:04:25] <SirFinkus> I think he was...
[02:04:27] <Konomi> ~define pot
[02:04:28] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3pot: A term for mariujana of any sort.
[02:04:32] <Konomi> ~define stoner
[02:04:34] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3stoner: Slang for somebody who smokes cannabis, often. Most people would talk them down as if they are better, though they often consume poisons such as alcohol and caffeine. Stoners are generally a friendly...
[02:04:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, I bet you do self-medicate, with coffee or caffeinated soda
[02:04:52] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:04:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[02:04:54] <SpallsHurgenson> nope, no coffee and no more soda
[02:04:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I really miss soda
[02:05:27] <SirFinkus> what do you mix your rum with?
[02:05:53] <SpallsHurgenson> no rum either :)
[02:06:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I live off pollen and dew :)
[02:06:13] <SirFinkus> mountain dew?
[02:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson-- #Hippie!
[02:06:21] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 8
[02:06:24] <SpallsHurgenson> eiuu, no; that's carbonated moose piss!
[02:06:44] <SirFinkus> no, it's mountain dew, duh
[02:06:50] <SirFinkus> it tickles yer innards
[02:07:03] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I'm no hippie! I like a nice hot shower!
[02:08:14] <SirFinkus> didn't know hippies were in to watersports
[02:08:20] <SirFinkus> learn something new every day
[02:08:23] <SpallsHurgenson> pollen, dew and the well-cooked meat :)
[02:08:30] <Ethanol-fueled> kayaking++
[02:08:30] <Bender> karma - kayaking: 2
[02:11:14] <Ethanol-fueled> When I get dat roof-rack, I'm gonna bomb some phat waves
[02:12:35] * SirFinkus is listening to Alestorm — Wenches & Mead, from the album Captain Morgan's Revenge
[02:12:36] <SirFinkus> aww yeah
[02:13:08] * Ethanol-fueled listening to Prince's "I can never take the place of your man"
[02:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> waves are for sissies. concrete and wheels ftw
[02:13:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, what about dunes or mud and wheels?
[02:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you don't bleed when you fall, it ain't fun.
[02:13:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Coal Power: 'A Game We Can’t Win'. - http://sylnt.us - black-lung
[02:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> was talking skateboarding but dirtbikes are also a valid form of awesome.
[02:15:34] <SirFinkus> skiing is pretty cool, but too much of a pita
[02:15:51] <Ethanol-fueled> skateboarding is cool
[02:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to be good at that shit till i did it for too long n eventually broke my everything
[02:16:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, sucks, man.
[02:16:44] <Ethanol-fueled> It's pretty hard on you if you ride shortboards
[02:17:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I used to ski and rock-climb. Then one day I was at the top of the mountain, looked down and said, "What the fuck am I doing?" Headed down and never went back up :)
[02:17:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i got permanent bad knees, hips, and shoulders from that noise.
[02:17:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Sugs Buzzard
[02:18:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> was fun though
[02:18:20] <SirFinkus> I got out with only a broken leg, healed pretty well
[02:18:32] <SirFinkus> maybe it'll bother me when I'm older
[02:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> little misfits or suicidal tendencies in the walkman and let rip
[02:18:59] * Ethanol-fueled received his most severe injury unceremoniously lifting a couple weak dumbells in the guy
[02:19:18] <Ethanol-fueled> B-b-b-but buzzard, how will you hear the cars with a walkman?
[02:19:34] <Ethanol-fueled> gym^
[02:19:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck tha cars, they don't usually drive on the sidewalks anyway
[02:20:12] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: sure.,..
[02:20:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> worst one was when i fell smack on my ass from a 12' half pipe and broke my tailbone. hurt to everything for the next couple months.
[02:20:36] <chromas> We know you meant doing things in the guy
[02:20:41] <juggs> How do the simplest of questions end up having the longest answers!
[02:20:49] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Ouch :|
[02:20:55] <Ethanol-fueled> haha buzzard, that's easy to do on the half-pipe though.
[02:21:02] <Ethanol-fueled> 'specially on the drop
[02:21:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i never really did get the hang of big pipes. more a freestyle street skater type.
[02:22:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, i'm dunno. what's up?
[02:24:10] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, just answering GungnirSniper's question about differentiation - thought it would be a quick answer, then realised it's a damn sight more nuanced matter than I first thought :D
[02:24:33] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, tell us about it or provide link
[02:24:39] <juggs> All good - it's giving the grey matter a workout
[02:25:16] * Ethanol-fueled passed hard calc I and is struggling with easy calc II
[02:25:20] <juggs> https://soylentnews.org
[02:25:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> couple days in the driver's seat and you're already answering simple questions with a novel. it must come with the job.
[02:25:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by GungnirSniper (1671)
[02:26:08] <juggs> Thinking about it beats the shit out of reading IRS documents
[02:26:09] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: just like slash itself
[02:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that. lot of folks double submit and we cherry pick what goes on the front page a little harder than /.
[02:26:39] <Ethanol-fueled> We're already differentiated from slashdot. That was a fundamentally retarded question, in my opinion.
[02:26:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Slashdot is a carcass.
[02:27:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> beached whale
[02:27:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[02:27:11] <chromas> >" They seem to be beating us to publication much of the time."
[02:27:11] <chromas> "Who's fault is that?"
[02:27:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> big but still fucked
[02:27:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, not big anymore, judging by their comment counds.
[02:27:37] <Ethanol-fueled> counts^
[02:27:46] <Ethanol-fueled> and even most of those comments are crap.
[02:27:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, that's actually on our editors doing a good job rather than just passing wtfever through
[02:28:02] <SirFinkus> why does publication time really matter? Slashdot itself has always been "yesterdays news... today"
[02:28:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, which has been excellent, especially recently.
[02:28:10] <chromas> That too, but I was blaming the users for not submitting
[02:28:28] <SirFinkus> if you want up to the minute stuff, go to hackerne.ws or something
[02:28:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, ya you users suck
[02:28:38] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas: I don't know, that shithead serp kannella has been submitting. He sounds like an asshole.
[02:28:39] * chromas whistles nonchalantly
[02:29:02] <chromas> Yeah
[02:29:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> definitely
[02:29:09] <Ethanol-fueled> serp kannella is like the KDawson of soylent news.
[02:29:20] <chromas> but he's not an editor yet
[02:29:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I hate people who whine about submissions without submitting themselves.
[02:29:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[02:30:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> even i take time to throw a few out there now n then. gewg_, anontechie, and co keep us in business.
[02:30:28] <chromas> Hey, I submitted once, a long time ago; I reserve the right to bitch!
[02:31:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, it takes like three minutes to do up a GOOD submission.
[02:31:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the time is making sure any links get copied properly.
[02:32:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I submitted to soylent and they rejected me; I never got over it. I still cry myself to sleep at night because of it :)
[02:32:03] <SirFinkus> hmm, my standards are higher for myself I guess, I always spend at least 20 on mine
[02:32:04] <SirFinkus> I usually have issues
[02:32:14] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, won't be a novel, it just got me thinking as to how one would actually go about differentiation - which in turn leads on to thinking about content and site functionality. It's all good, just not something I'd thought about before now.
[02:32:19] <SirFinkus> 100% submission acceptance rate
[02:32:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, ahh. well good on ya for using the ole grey matter then.
[02:32:59] <chromas> I'd have 100% if I hadn't accidentally submitted without the link; then the one with the link got rejected
[02:33:23] <juggs> I think we already diverged to a degree in the transition via altslashdot > SoylentNews to where we are now
[02:33:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i got rejected once on account of the same story having run two days prior
[02:33:27] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, it's okay not to submit as long as you're not bitching about the submissions.
[02:33:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Ditto Buzzard, on the Mojang buyout
[02:33:44] <chromas> My submissions usually got two or three comments
[02:33:52] <chromas> filler++
[02:33:52] <Bender> karma - filler: 1
[02:33:54] * Ethanol-fueled wakes up at 11am hungover OOH! OOH! THEY got BOUGHT!
[02:34:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like flamebait ones but anything coffee also gets submitted
[02:34:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[02:34:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[02:34:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ #and one to grow on
[02:34:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[02:35:04] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[02:35:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[02:35:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> you noticed we're averaging a LOT more comments on our less arguey stories lately? 20s-30s instead of single digits
[02:36:05] <juggs> is that excluding the recent spam knobs?
[02:36:27] <SirFinkus> seems like the new user signups are slowing quite a bit though
[02:36:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, they cared enough to spam HERE so they get counted.
[02:36:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[02:36:49] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4922, owned by grant
[02:36:52] <SirFinkus> which doesn't matter anyway, I prefer an more intimate community anyway
[02:36:53] <juggs> need to get myself hooked into the slashstats info at some point.
[02:37:03] <SirFinkus> we hit 4k pretty quickly iirc
[02:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, most of that was people waiting in line.
[02:37:47] <SirFinkus> I got a 3 digit, so I guess that would make me royalty in 10 years
[02:37:58] <SirFinkus> assuming I'm not dead yet
[02:38:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hang on, i'm already logged in... lemme see how many new the past month
[02:39:53] <juggs> that's how organic growth goes, we're not running a pump and dump marketing frenzy
[02:40:59] <chromas> we should though—another project. Good way to make moneys for this sit
[02:41:01] <chromas> site
[02:41:48] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:41:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[02:41:49] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:41:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[02:41:52] <juggs> I wasn't aware that the aim of this project was for us to make out like bandits, sell out and retire to private islands - I may have missed that memo.
[02:41:54] <chromas> ciri++
[02:41:54] <Bender> karma - ciri: -31
[02:42:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> sixty exactly the past month
[02:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> two a day
[02:42:37] <JamesNZ> Nice \o/
[02:42:45] <chromas> even_numbers++
[02:42:45] <Bender> karma - even_numbers: 3
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[02:42:47] <chromas> even_numbers++
[02:42:47] <Bender> karma - even_numbers: 4
[02:42:52] <juggs> thanks for the clarification TMB - I was struggling with 30/2 :P
[02:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> wiseasses++
[02:43:05] <Bender> karma - wiseasses: 1
[02:43:06] <juggs> eh!7
[02:43:12] <SpallsHurgenson> damn, that "Make It So" song is looping in my head
[02:43:18] <Ethanol-fueled_> Huh, that was weird.
[02:43:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> didn't see ya leave
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[02:43:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, cause you hadn't yet
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[02:44:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Gee, that was a totally strange and random occurrance.
[02:44:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I think my computer is being passive-aggressive with me.
[02:45:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> lose your ip lease maybe?
[02:45:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I hope not. I still had 30 dollars of credit left on that bitch.
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[02:46:00] <chromas> it's getting drunk for you. Better check your stash to make sure it's not stealing your alcohols
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[02:48:11] <chromas> oh yeah, he was going to be an editor too :\
[02:48:23] <chromas> probably just did it for the irc privileges
[02:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> whozat?
[02:48:37] <chromas> Subsentient
[02:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> had personal issues come up
[02:48:52] <chromas> That's really the ultimate goal of most of us—irc privileges
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[02:48:57] <chromas> I know
[02:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> .voice chromas
[02:49:13] <chromas> hehe
[02:49:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> sucks to be you, chromas
[02:49:17] <chromas> I'm not cool enough
[02:49:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> .op
[02:49:55] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
[02:50:11] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v chromas] by TheMightyBuzzard
[02:50:25] -!- mode/#Soylent [-v chromas] by TheMightyBuzzard
[02:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> .deop
[02:50:29] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
[02:50:31] * chromas promises to abuse that when the time vomes
[02:50:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell me what i can do, lousy bot
[02:50:51] <chromas> .help
[02:51:16] <chromas> that's a lot of notices
[02:51:20] * SpallsHurgenson signs up for the abuse
[02:51:40] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: don't do it! They'll make you attend meatings
[02:52:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> pfft, we haven't had a staff meeting since summer
[02:52:09] <Ethanol-fueled> mmmm, meat.
[02:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> and board meetings you can skip if you're not on em
[02:53:03] <chromas> it's a trick! he's trying to lure us with lies like the army!
[02:53:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Hmm, maybe I'd better not join these guys for a grade.
[02:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, tell em about the volcano base
[02:53:25] <SirFinkus> I'm already op on another channel, I don't need shit
[02:53:49] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, ssshhhh - that's so secret
[02:54:01] <Ethanol-fueled> "Posts racial slurs, F-"
[02:54:26] <SirFinkus> Ethanol-"Brown menace"-Fueled
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[02:54:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Then post the entirety of the "brown menace" text
[02:55:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, college is not the place to ever speak up with a differing view
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[02:55:29] <SirFinkus> which is ironic
[02:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> some of the most intolerant bastards ever created
[02:55:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, you saw what happened to that UVA fraternity
[02:56:27] <SirFinkus> Which one? I've read quite a bit of news about bullshit happening at colleges
[02:56:38] <Ethanol-fueled> somebody made up a story about a violent gang-rape and the frat-house was vandalized by righteous students who wanted to fuck something up.
[02:56:44] <SirFinkus> lol
[02:56:44] <ciri> rofl
[02:57:03] <SirFinkus> I'm not shocked really
[02:57:10] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.usatoday.com
[02:57:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Rolling Stone backs off from U.Va. rape story
[02:57:30] <SirFinkus> busy bodies annoyed they aren't in the club
[02:57:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Meh, it's Rolling Stone. They've been posers since Frank Zappa called 'em out on it.
[02:59:07] <SirFinkus> god damn, I hate these fucking sites
[02:59:12] <SirFinkus> with the videos in the articles
[02:59:17] * SirFinkus reinstalls noscript
[02:59:30] <SirFinkus> they always take 45 seconds to load and start playing halfway through the article
[02:59:34] <SirFinkus> usually an ad
[02:59:45] <chromas> at least turn on click-to-activiate-plugins
[03:00:01] <chromas> though I think html5 videos bypass that
[03:00:23] <SirFinkus> "I never asked for this" attention, she told the Post. "What bothers me is that so many people act like it didn't happen. It's my life. I have had to live with the fact that it happened every day for the last two years."
[03:00:37] <SirFinkus> then why did you spend "months" interviewing with rolling stone you cunt?
[03:01:07] <chromas> isn't that what they always say? "I don't want the attention, teehee!"
[03:04:48] <Ethanol-fueled> The good news is that it will officially De-Legitimize Rolling Stone as a source of reliable news.
[03:04:53] <SpallsHurgenson> there's that geeky mysogyny we all know and love :)
[03:05:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Which is a shame, they did after all have Michael Hastings on their side.
[03:05:46] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: :D though actually I just meant people (girls) on the internet
[03:05:54] <Ethanol-fueled> They could redeem themselves by publishing anything explosive Michael had before his untimely demise.
[03:06:47] <SirFinkus> misogyny? If she says she doesn't want attention, and interviewed with rolling stone, she's a lying cunt, especially since it sounds like her claims are bullshit
[03:07:19] <Ethanol-fueled> But that would put them at odds with the Obama regime they supported.
[03:10:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Rolling Stone used to be a respectable name, but stopped around the early '90s
[03:11:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Which is when the Jews in charge and writing most of the articles finally prized bribe money over the degeneracy of their free speech.
[03:11:19] <SirFinkus> never really read them, I thought they were a music magazine?
[03:11:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus: They were, once.
[03:11:44] <SirFinkus> I like music, I just don't really care to read about it
[03:12:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Rolling Stone had a long tradition of Hunter S. Thompson-style new journalism that often had nothing to do with music.
[03:12:26] <chromas> which came first? the band or the magazine?
[03:12:38] <SirFinkus> magazine iirc
[03:12:53] <SirFinkus> well, Hunter S. thompson stuff would be great
[03:13:28] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't call it journalism, but good to read nonetheless
[03:14:22] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[03:14:23] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Stanley A. McChrystal
[03:14:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Michael Hastings got a general fired.
[03:14:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Some time later, Hastings died suspiciously.
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[03:16:42] <SirFinkus> of course
[03:23:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, are you related to Dr. Fink?
[03:23:29] <SirFinkus> nope
[03:24:52] <FunPika> So let me get this straight...most staff have the ability to .op (then voice other people) but not .voice? That makes no sense. :/
[03:25:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i did the voicing manually with a /mode #Soylent +v chromas rather than .voice chromas
[03:26:06] <juggs> lol
[03:26:08] <ciri> hahaha
[03:26:17] <FunPika> Yes you did, but you tried and failed to do the .voice chromas
[03:26:20] <juggs> ciri - stop stalking me you freak
[03:26:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> right
[03:26:51] <SirFinkus> I wonder if my oatis is cold yet
[03:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's confusing
[03:27:12] <FunPika> .flags !wiki +v
[03:27:12] -ChanServ:#Soylent- FunPika set flags +v on !wiki.
[03:27:16] <FunPika> .flags !editors +v
[03:27:16] -ChanServ:#Soylent- FunPika set flags +v on !editors.
[03:27:20] <FunPika> .flags !developers +v
[03:27:20] -ChanServ:#Soylent- FunPika set flags +v on !developers.
[03:27:28] * Ethanol-fueled will never be a voice, because of "Coontown"
[03:27:28] <juggs> it's IRC perms and flags, they were designed to be confusing TMB
[03:27:32] <FunPika> .flags !management +V
[03:27:32] <Ethanol-fueled> :(
[03:27:38] <FunPika> .flags !management +v
[03:27:38] -ChanServ:#Soylent- FunPika set flags +v on !management.
[03:27:47] <FunPika> .flags !sysops +v
[03:27:47] -ChanServ:#Soylent- FunPika set flags +v on !sysops.
[03:27:53] <juggs> o.O
[03:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> everything is designed to be confusing to me.
[03:28:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially womens.
[03:28:18] <FunPika> There, slightly less confusing now. :D
[03:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers, FunPika
[03:28:31] <paulej72> me is here
[03:28:44] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[03:29:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, the angry Italian with a baseball bat!
[03:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> was some spam earlier on a couple articles
[03:29:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> asshat spam not commercial spam
[03:29:45] * Konomi rawrs at the TheMightyBuzzard
[03:29:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, how do we get rid of those assholes?
[03:30:05] <paulej72> there is always spam
[03:30:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org and https://soylentnews.org
[03:30:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Rovio Lays Off 110 People as Angry Birds Hype Fades 04(40 comments)
[03:30:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Police in Denver to Use Olfactometers for Cannabis Odour Mapping 04(40 comments)
[03:30:23] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAA at above ^
[03:30:50] <Ethanol-fueled> well, there is a pattern there. Spam was replies to a spam post.
[03:30:54] * TheMightyBuzzard is secretly askeert of Konomi
[03:31:05] * Konomi releases cooties
[03:31:26] * TheMightyBuzzard hides behind Ethanol-fueled
[03:31:42] <Ethanol-fueled> The pattern there is a spam comment, replying to a spam comment, replying to a spam coment.
[03:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty sure you already got em man, so you're my human shield
[03:32:08] * juggs poisons cooties
[03:32:10] <Ethanol-fueled> call it "stairstep"
[03:32:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, makes em easy to collapse
[03:32:45] <paulej72> i may need pull out the all powerfull delete hammer
[03:32:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, if they're so easy to collapse, then why are they a problem?
[03:33:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, i'm currently undecided between leaving them alone to inflate the comment counts and deletion because they're pointless and annoying
[03:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me, cat wrangling time
[03:34:48] <Konomi> like justine bieber songs
[03:34:51] <juggs> Hmm, this confuses me
[03:34:51] <Ethanol-fueled> flag them with the "spam" modifier, then count them toward the comment count.
[03:34:53] <Konomi> justin*
[03:34:56] <Konomi> whatever he's called ;p
[03:35:07] <juggs> "Nexus. Currently, all stories are released on the Main Page nexus however, it is possible for different nexuses to be used." http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[03:35:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Editing Process
[03:35:12] <Ethanol-fueled> don't call the spam modifier"spam"
[03:35:26] <Ethanol-fueled> call it something official, like, "processing"
[03:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, "Douchebaggery"?
[03:36:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, that's no less douchebaggery than what you and others have already proposed.
[03:36:11] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, do we have nexus functionality or not? The ed page alludes that we do
[03:36:33] <paulej72> we need wild card cert
[03:36:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, need the wildcard cert but last i heard we had them working
[03:37:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> pj knows more, he played with NC on them
[03:37:05] <Konomi> can we make it GTFO?
[03:37:56] <chromas> FunPika++ # mysterious deity who pops in'n'out
[03:37:57] <Bender> karma - funpika: 2
[03:38:03] <chromas> :O
[03:38:04] <juggs> ok - that was what we started discussing in The Channel before the board appeared and press ganged me - then no progress was made on the cert at all
[03:38:24] <FunPika> .voice chromas
[03:38:24] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v chromas] by juggler
[03:38:41] <chromas> FunPika: I didn't really need it :) I'm not staff
[03:39:06] <FunPika> .devoice chromas
[03:39:06] -!- mode/#Soylent [-v chromas] by juggler
[03:39:37] * juggs put amphetamines in FunPika's water to see what would happen
[03:39:55] <juggs> The result is mass voicing :D
[03:40:00] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, don't do that.
[03:40:08] <chromas> It's too bad all the people who know how things work have lives and stuff
[03:40:27] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't have a life.
[03:40:42] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, it was a joke, I wouldn't do such a thing
[03:40:50] <chromas> well then, get on staff immediately!
[03:40:50] * FunPika is already on adderall usually
[03:41:35] <Konomi> yay lives
[03:42:00] <chromas> Konomi: if you were staff, you could run everything through shell scripts
[03:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> FunPika, me too. great stuff.
[03:42:44] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:42:44] <NetCraft> ^ 03Hannibal Lecter feeds Krendler his last meal - YouTube
[03:43:00] <Ethanol-fueled> tyhat is NSFW
[03:43:04] <SpallsHurgenson> It wasn't always like this, I had a real life, once. A job. I had a wonderful girlfriend Linda. Together we drove to a small cabin in the mountains.
[03:43:14] <paulej72> some of us are on mind altering drugs and the rest probabLy should be as well 😄
[03:43:51] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders replacing "soylent news is people" with that under the logo
[03:44:18] <chromas> SoylentNews—the mind altering drug you need
[03:44:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, I agree. We should go do some http://en.wikipedia.org
[03:44:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Ayahuasca
[03:44:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i disagree with taking anything i can't pronounce
[03:45:25] <paulej72> 🍗🍖🍩🇨🇳🇺🇸
[03:45:26] <juggs> If you come across someone that claims they aren't paulej72 - they're either lying or a puritanical psycho who is far more dangerous than any mind altered person.
[03:45:30] <Konomi> hope you're good at pronoucing medical terms then ;p
[03:45:53] * JamesNZ maintains that he is not paulej72
[03:46:12] <Konomi> I keep think paulej72 is a girl ^^;
[03:46:15] <Konomi> it's the nick ~
[03:46:16] <paulej72> i resemble that remark
[03:46:26] <chromas> JamesNZ: I didn't think you were paulej72, but now that you brought it up…
[03:46:49] <juggs> Yes "Paul" - such a female name :/ How do you get female from paulej72 Konomi ?
[03:46:55] <JamesNZ> chromas: Mwahahahaha.
[03:46:58] <chromas> juggs: the e
[03:47:08] <SirFinkus> polly?
[03:47:09] <paulej72> well it is my last name
[03:47:10] <juggs> Paule is a female name?
[03:47:10] <chromas> probably
[03:47:14] <Konomi> I thought it was paula the first time ;p
[03:47:31] * juggs sends Konomi to specsavers
[03:48:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> he does get moody on a regular schedule but it has to do with release dates rather than hormones.
[03:48:19] <chromas> hormones have release dates
[03:48:21] <JamesNZ> Hah.
[03:48:43] <Konomi> hehe
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[03:48:56] <Konomi> I know a lot of moody guys
[03:49:34] <paulej72> i do have girl hands tohugh, my index finger is shorter than my ring finger
[03:49:50] <chromas> it's because of the iPad
[03:49:53] <SpallsHurgenson> we're not moody... we're deep!
[03:50:07] <Konomi> mmnn hmm ;p
[03:50:29] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:50:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[03:50:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are only three approved moods for guys. goofy, generally happy, and pissed off
[03:50:36] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee++
[03:50:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[03:50:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[03:50:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[03:50:43] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:50:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[03:50:44] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:50:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[03:50:48] <JamesNZ> How about bored?
[03:50:49] <ciri> not sure
[03:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> eights!
[03:50:52] <chromas> ++coffee
[03:50:52] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 183
[03:50:56] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[03:51:06] <FunPika> coffee--
[03:51:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[03:51:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> bored only as a short-term transitional mood.
[03:52:08] * JamesNZ swats moodily
[03:52:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> you must pick an approved one and switch to it as soon as possible
[03:52:35] <paulej72> http://en.m.wikipedia.org
[03:52:36] <NetCraft> ^ 03Digit ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[03:53:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have no idea what that means but my hands look like the one in the picture
[03:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> except they're abnormally large for my body
[03:54:14] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCK OFF, cocksuckers.
[03:54:25] <paulej72> lol
[03:55:09] <JamesNZ> I refuse.
[03:55:22] <SirFinkus> the oatis is cold enough now
[03:55:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> we have no pending stories
[03:55:33] <JamesNZ> ~queue
[03:55:37] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 17 - http://sylnt.us
[03:55:37] <SirFinkus> because stout
[03:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, you saying the eds all got drunk?
[03:56:36] <SirFinkus> no, but I'm working on it
[03:56:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Darkman impersonates Pauley
[03:56:51] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:56:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Darkman (4/11) Movie CLIP - Darkman Impersonates Pauly (1990) HD - YouTube
[03:57:44] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp approves this - darkman approves smiley
[03:57:46] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:57:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03Darkman (8/11) Movie CLIP - You Have Been a Bad Boy! (1990) HD - YouTube
[04:00:59] <paulej72> there is a fourth mood: drunk
[04:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, fair nuff
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[04:06:10] <chromas> :(
[04:08:40] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:08:40] <NetCraft> ^ 03Van Halen - Van Halen - I'm The One - YouTube
[04:09:00] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHHAA, Fuck off, you bloody sods.
[04:09:14] <juggs> why do you do that Ethanol-fueled ?
[04:09:27] <juggs> seems like some kind of Tourets
[04:09:36] <juggs> sp.
[04:10:40] <chromas> "I can't help it; my hands just type whole sentences in random outbursts"
[04:10:59] <SirFinkus> text to speech
[04:11:09] <SirFinkus> err, speech to text
[04:11:15] <SirFinkus> fuck, /ignore me
[04:11:32] <SirFinkus> I very rarely have anything worth listening to anyway
[04:11:49] <Ethanol-fueled> yup., fuck dis shit
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[04:13:41] <Konomi> did I just see Ef get trolled ;p
[04:14:07] <juggs> by me?
[04:14:29] <Konomi> well I know you asked an honest question but it turned out that way ;p
[04:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs++
[04:14:49] <Bender> karma - juggs: 45
[04:15:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twitter Use by Romney and Obama in the 2012 Elections - http://sylnt.us - 140-chair-actors
[04:15:23] <SirFinkus> I kind of doubt that
[04:15:32] <juggs> I doubt it - it was genuine question. He goes along - then BLAM - we get the fuck off. I seriously don't understand the mentality.
[04:15:59] <mythterj> its the drugs...
[04:16:01] <SirFinkus> leaving suddenly draws attention
[04:16:19] <SirFinkus> he'll be back, probably later tonight
[04:16:26] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, what did I do now? I'm suspicious of upvotes
[04:16:30] <chromas> after checking the logs
[04:16:34] <chromas> loggs
[04:16:35] <paulej72> parting is such sweet
[04:16:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> unintentional troll of EF
[04:17:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> bender, you were about half an hour late on that
[04:17:37] <JamesNZ> cinemasins++
[04:17:37] <Bender> karma - cinemasins: 1
[04:17:39] <paulej72> troll the troll can lead to rip in the space time continum
[04:17:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'okay, i got lots of duct tape.
[04:18:28] <paulej72> i hope the good kind not the shitty fake shit
[04:18:31] <Alberto> waffles++
[04:18:31] <Bender> karma - waffles: 9
[04:18:52] <chromas> poutine-- could use some counter-trolling
[04:18:52] <Bender> karma - poutine: -369
[04:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, only 3m or duct brand duct tape.
[04:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/duct/duck/
[04:20:00] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, only 3m or duck brand duct tape.
[04:20:09] * TheMightyBuzzard nods to self
[04:20:40] * SpallsHurgenson bought some new silicon-based lubricant and needs something to squeak
[04:20:57] <chromas> try lubing ciri
[04:21:19] <chromas> or this finger; can't get it to go down
[04:25:47] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... ummm....
[04:25:51] * SpallsHurgenson backs away slowly
[04:28:00] <chromas> not that finger, the other one
[04:29:27] * SpallsHurgenson backs away quickly
[04:32:08] * chromas runs after SpallsHurgenson, squirting 3-in-1 oil in his general direction
[04:33:21] <SpallsHurgenson> why do all my saturday nights end up this way?
[04:34:02] <chromas> keeps you from getting rusty
[04:38:00] <paulej72> SpallsHurgenson: too much/not enough beer
[04:43:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate when I have too much and not enough beer at the same time.
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[04:55:45] <Konomi> juggs: could be he has geninue problems hard to tell
[05:00:36] <SpallsHurgenson> all my problems are artificial
[05:03:04] <SpallsHurgenson> except for the demonic possession; that I came by naturally
[05:03:33] <chromas> #debianfork arguing over channel logging. /me passes them a derp
[05:04:53] <SpallsHurgenson> recommend a Microsoft-based product to aid their logging :)
[05:05:56] <juggs> Konomi, I prefer to treat than punish where possible. << that my not go down well with certain portions of our US community, but certain Nordic countries have already demonstrated a clear reduction in recidivism this way.
[05:06:29] * Konomi nods
[05:07:33] <chromas> juggs: no way! If you even suspect someone of something, lock 'em up for 800 years and make them register as a sex offender so they can't get a job anywhere when they get out
[05:08:14] <SpallsHurgenson> be sure to put them in the most horrible penitentiary too, where their criminal habits are reinforced
[05:08:36] <SpallsHurgenson> and make sure to strip them of their ability to change the system by voting after they are released :)
[05:08:44] <Konomi> irc isn't the place to treat people though ~
[05:10:53] <juggs> chromas, US has a non trivial problem to address in this matter. It's only going to get worse until the boil is lanced. Throwing people behind bars is not the answer.
[05:11:33] <Konomi> unfortuantly the boil is half of the population
[05:11:46] <chromas> sure it is. jpay needs more customers
[05:11:50] <Konomi> also in conflictive times right wing ideology is likely to get more common
[05:12:49] <paulej72> boil them into bio diesel ( the new soylent green)
[05:14:34] * SpallsHurgenson signs up for paulej72's newsletter
[05:14:49] <juggs> Konomi, welcome to UK. I'd like to separate right wing from nationalist. Traditionally these went hand in hand and it formed the words we use to discuss, not so much any more. We need to define terms.
[05:16:25] <SpallsHurgenson> truism: people tend to remember the past fondly. in times of stress, they revert to conservative norms, "what used to work back in the day" rather than move forward with progressive ideals
[05:17:38] <Konomi> welcome to the nhk ~
[05:17:38] <SpallsHurgenson> and since media constantly plays up threats, you have to wonder if the so-called "liberal bias" is nothing more than a facade to push people in a more conservative direction :) :) :)
[05:17:39] <juggs> source?
[05:19:57] <paulej72> my ass
[05:20:05] <juggs> There's a word that need definition "liberal" or is it "Liberal" - perhaps two definitions.
[05:22:14] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: it is
[05:22:19] <Konomi> the left has been losing for awhile ;p
[05:22:29] <Konomi> mostly cause they have issues stooping down to that level
[05:24:03] <juggs> I know my definition of liberal does not match what "liberal" or "Liberal" would mean those left of pond, which makes political discussions dead air to me. It's like everyone talking over each other.... doesn't really achieve much.
[05:24:28] <Konomi> ypu
[05:24:38] <Konomi> that's why you never hear me bring up the terms left or right often
[05:24:46] <chromas> LALALALALA can't hear you!
[05:24:52] <Konomi> prefer science
[05:25:01] <SpallsHurgenson> there is no active large-scale liberal leftist party in the US; just two sides of the corporate machine
[05:25:07] <Konomi> you analyse choose the best option for everyone at the time and just fukin do ittt
[05:25:15] <chromas> We need a circle or a sphere instead of a 1d line segment
[05:25:16] <SpallsHurgenson> (lots of liberals in the country, just no party to support them :)
[05:25:23] <Konomi> but people don't understand that
[05:25:31] <Konomi> they just want to throw their opinion around
[05:26:02] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, too many people in the country are still caught up in the idea that voting is ONLY about getting "their guy" into office, so they refuse to consider third-party alternatives
[05:26:33] <Konomi> I'm happy to say one of our third party and indepentant candidates in our recent state election cleaned house
[05:26:40] <Konomi> getting a few major seats
[05:26:56] <juggs> can they clean my house too?
[05:27:04] <Konomi> and the right wing party got their arse kicked so hard to the curb I almost cried tears of joy ;p
[05:27:06] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, politicians are relatively powerless anyway since it's the actual bureacratic government that really controls things :)
[05:27:46] <paulej72> corps controll all
[05:28:05] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, no it's the lizards that mind control us
[05:28:23] <paulej72> need some psycohistory
[05:28:39] * Konomi puts her coke hat on
[05:28:43] <Konomi> corps don't control us
[05:28:44] <juggs> I read it on the interwebs - it must be true
[05:28:44] <Konomi> want a coke>
[05:28:56] <SpallsHurgenson> bureaucracy is dominant; politicians resort to self-serving corporate assistance in order to get things done :)
[05:28:57] * chromas nominates the internet for world prez
[05:29:09] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[05:29:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Is there some kind of special umbrella for spider rain? Because I think I'm going to need one. - Imgur
[05:29:12] <Konomi> welcome to australia
[05:29:42] <SpallsHurgenson> that doesn't look very welcoming :)
[05:30:20] <Konomi> they just wanna be friends
[05:30:52] <chromas> all those web sites
[05:30:56] <chromas> cloud hosting
[05:31:02] <juggs> nothing new - spiders use web umbrellas to float about the place... we should learn something from that
[05:32:02] * Konomi nods
[05:32:08] <Konomi> spider minions
[05:32:10] <Konomi> hmmmm
[05:32:58] * SpallsHurgenson looks for an example of scary wildlife from his neck of the woods... this is the best I can come up with :): http://squirrelpatrol.mee.nu
[05:34:10] <SpallsHurgenson> or maybe http://squirrelpatrol.mee.nu
[05:34:53] <Konomi> 5 fingers you know that is trouble ;p
[05:36:15] <SirFinkus> raccoons are assholes
[05:36:54] <Konomi> that's why I like em ^^
[05:37:08] <chromas> racoons hate kitties
[05:37:21] <Konomi> and as a member of the species that is currently fucking up the planet that's rather judgemental ;p
[05:37:25] * Konomi runs
[05:38:04] <SirFinkus> you've never met a raccoon
[05:38:06] <chromas> aren't we the only species who can be judgemental?
[05:38:32] <juggs> chromas, that's a stretch
[05:38:36] <chromas> or at least, we get the final judgment at the moment
[05:38:57] <juggs> for now
[05:39:05] <Konomi> hmm
[05:39:08] <Konomi> no we aren't
[05:39:15] <Konomi> pack animals tend to throw out members
[05:39:20] <Konomi> that's judgemental
[05:39:54] <Konomi> I'd like to say I prefer to put people and animals far away from comparassion
[05:40:08] <Konomi> I find a lot of people like to use nature as some excuse to be vapid arseholes
[05:40:36] <chromas> yeah; racoons don't need no excuse
[05:40:54] * Konomi thinks
[05:40:57] * Konomi nods
[05:41:11] * juggs bows out gracefully and goes in search of duvet.... Be Well
[05:42:19] <Konomi> french words so ick
[05:42:25] * chromas presses exec for definition of duvet
[05:43:54] <Konomi> it's basically a blanket
[05:44:08] <Konomi> doona is another word for it
[05:44:15] <Konomi> quilt
[05:44:27] <Konomi> it's a french word
[05:44:33] <Konomi> that's why it makes no sense in english
[05:44:55] <chromas> we drop in words from random languages all the time
[05:44:59] <Konomi> comforter for amercian enlgish
[05:45:04] <SirFinkus> because english has no words from other languages
[05:45:05] <Konomi> yeah it gives me the shit
[05:45:06] <Konomi> s
[05:45:08] <chromas> or words derived from random languages
[05:45:14] <Konomi> cause they do not make the right sounds for the english alphabet
[05:45:19] <chromas> especially lawyers and money guys
[05:45:45] <Konomi> it's like going through C source and coming across some JavaScript
[05:45:46] <chromas> if you're edumacated then you've got to sprinkle Latin in everywhere
[05:45:58] <Konomi> "scrol scroll scroll... and wtf is this!?"
[05:46:04] <Konomi> but it's okay in languages apparently
[05:46:10] <chromas> Konomi: English is the php of human languages
[05:46:26] <chromas> import bits of everything; don't bother to organize it
[05:46:29] <Konomi> english is the java of spoken languages...
[05:46:58] <Konomi> java will always hold a special hatred in my heart over any other language
[05:47:12] <Konomi> because when the jvm first came out it was a heaping pile of shit
[05:47:31] <chromas> and then it continued to be a pile of shit?
[05:47:35] <Konomi> probably responsible for heaps of computer issues in the early 2000s and late 1990s
[05:47:51] <Konomi> it's a little better now
[05:47:58] <Konomi> but I get sick of so many damn programming languages
[05:48:07] <Konomi> I'd be happy for some of them to fall off the mortal coil
[05:48:42] <Konomi> I'd give up perl and start writing python if python was suddenly one of the few scripting languages
[05:48:45] <Konomi> cause it's a freaking mess
[05:48:56] <chromas> we should all switch to my language of choice :D
[05:49:09] <Konomi> should've been incrementing the spec if they had an issue with it
[05:49:15] <Konomi> not making a million other things
[05:49:53] <chromas> that's assuming the keepers of the old spec would accept the new one
[05:50:15] <chromas> otherwise you still end up with two different things, like lunix bistros and other religions
[05:51:27] <SpallsHurgenson> a linux bistro? that doesnt' sound an appetizing place to eat for some reason
[05:52:24] <chromas> wouldn't you like an xsandwich86?
[05:52:52] <chromas> or libsandwich
[05:53:00] <SpallsHurgenson> BLT doesn't support the whole wheat dependencies
[05:53:01] <chromas> libsalad
[05:55:43] <SpallsHurgenson> "Is the fish fresh?" "No, it's GNU!"
[05:56:23] <_NSAKEY> I recommend not having the sandwichd. The chef never cooks the meat all the way, but swears it's better than all the other sandwiches on the menu.
[05:57:21] <chromas> gnu/herring
[05:58:22] <_NSAKEY> Free as in food poisoning.
[06:06:38] <chromas> someone call poisonctl
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[06:10:08] <SoyCow4512> hi all
[06:10:09] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! SoyCow4512
[06:10:22] <SoyCow4512> meet u
[06:14:35] <Konomi> wow the bot said something not dumb again
[06:14:43] <Konomi> I was going to say smart but I felt that was a step too far
[06:15:10] <SirFinkus> don't dis ciri, it can count to 10
[06:15:21] <SirFinkus> obviously pretty intelligent
[06:15:57] <chromas> 1, 2, 10
[06:16:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samarium Hexaboride (SmB6) May Advance Quantum Computing/Spintronics - http://sylnt.us - good-samarium
[06:34:09] <Konomi> https://soylentnews.org
[06:34:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Possible Compromise of Google's Chrome Extension Library 04(1 comments)
[06:34:19] <Konomi> might explain how my friends are getting malware
[06:47:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Possible Compromise of Google's Chrome Extension Library - http://sylnt.us - CAN-ANYONE-REPLICATE-THIS?
[06:50:31] * Konomi claps for Bender
[06:50:33] <Konomi> took you awhile ;p
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[07:01:23] <Alberto> chromas, you must join tama here!
[07:01:45] <chromas> tama'd probably get the boot
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[07:14:19] <crutchy> ++coffee
[07:14:20] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 184
[07:14:35] <Alberto> coffee++
[07:14:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[07:15:21] <crutchy> ooh there was a coffee correction
[07:16:38] <crutchy> tama is ciri on smack. it would definitely get booted
[07:29:04] <crutchy> ++coffee
[07:29:04] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 185
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[08:36:37] <crutchy> ++coffee
[08:36:37] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 186
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[08:57:30] <Konomi> caffeine++
[08:57:30] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 59
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[09:34:27] <crutchy> ++coffee
[09:34:27] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 187
[09:35:13] <crutchy> that's it. fuck passing parameters by reference
[09:35:21] <crutchy> globals++
[09:35:21] <Bender> karma - globals: 3
[09:35:54] * crutchy is easily confusement
[09:37:18] <chromas> crutchy: move to the daaark side
[09:37:27] <chromas> objects++ # :D
[09:37:27] <Bender> karma - objects: 1
[09:38:14] <crutchy> i would if i were delphi'ing
[09:38:39] <crutchy> cos delphi makes it easier than functional
[09:38:46] <crutchy> laziness++
[09:38:46] <Bender> karma - laziness: 1
[09:40:35] <chromas> is the bucket array global? Just put absolutely everything in there :)
[09:40:48] <crutchy> it is
[09:40:57] <crutchy> atm the ircd is separate from exec
[09:41:27] <chromas> includeonce buckets.php
[09:41:29] <chromas> :D
[09:41:36] <crutchy> lol
[09:41:48] <crutchy> i wasn't that smart when i designed it unfortunately
[09:42:07] <chromas> from now on, all your projects should use buckets
[09:42:20] <chromas> use it at work too
[09:42:29] * chromas puts buckets in crutchy's buckets
[09:43:06] * crutchy wonders if buckets could be used for a crane
[09:43:28] <chromas> they can store the load
[09:43:36] <crutchy> hehe
[09:44:00] <crutchy> i don't do the sort of cranes that you see on top of buildings
[09:44:09] <crutchy> i generally do smaller davits and monorails and stuff
[09:44:46] <chromas> like this? http://1.bp.blogspot.com
[09:45:07] <crutchy> hmm never had to do one of those
[09:45:44] <crutchy> i imagine it would have a pretty tight schedule
[09:45:48] <chromas> oh, you mean like inside buildings?
[09:46:03] <chromas> http://www.ainsmag.co.uk
[09:46:25] <crutchy> oh yeah stuff like that
[09:46:29] <chromas> cool
[09:46:54] <crutchy> industrial sites are full of those
[09:48:49] <crutchy> there's some pretty weird lifting gear that gets used. someone's always gotta sign off on it
[09:49:03] <chromas> I bet they run on javar
[09:49:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Demonstrates Social Login Attack - http://sylnt.us - trust-no-one
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[09:50:17] <crutchy> even the little davits used to lift pipe blinds gotta be certified http://i01.i.aliimg.com
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[10:06:44] <crutchy> i'm a bit lucky in that i get to work with places like this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com
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[11:31:43] * crutchy face palms
[11:32:18] <crutchy> i just realised i been testing the wrong program... for the past 2 hours
[11:32:43] <crutchy> fucking fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck
[11:33:17] <crutchy> i need another coffee
[11:35:15] <Konomi> nice one \o/
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[11:52:06] <Konomi> hmm
[11:52:14] <Konomi> the dicussion in this thread over the pgp key is a bit meh
[11:52:15] <Konomi> https://soylentnews.org
[11:52:17] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: More Follow-Up to Sony Hack 04(18 comments)
[11:52:30] <Konomi> I was thinking be neat if comments auto collapsed pgp key info that might be cool
[11:55:31] <crutchy> seems like a bit of a wank... "ooh look at me i know how to use gnupg aren't i awesomesauce"
[11:55:45] <Konomi> you're right we should go back to clear text
[11:55:51] <Konomi> it's so much of a wank to encrpyt things
[11:55:51] <Konomi> ;p
[11:55:54] <Alberto> crutchy, the dude finish the first proof of concept working
[11:55:56] <Alberto> crutchy, https://github.com
[11:55:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03dimkr/LoginKit · GitHub
[11:56:01] <Alberto> for replace login kit of systemd
[11:56:03] <Alberto> :D
[11:56:19] <Konomi> does it implement the logind protocol?
[11:56:23] <Konomi> or a completely new one?
[11:56:32] <crutchy> not a wank to encrypt things. the guy's comment is already cleartext
[11:56:38] <Konomi> hmm cool
[11:57:00] <crutchy> i dunno what the point of the pgp sig is on something like SN
[11:57:04] <Konomi> crutchy: the signing is about trust and it's encrpyted in the pgp signiture
[11:57:16] <Konomi> if anyone changed the comment in anyway it'd spit an error
[11:57:25] <chromas> crutchy: it's so you know the message is really from Anonymous Coward
[11:57:34] <crutchy> and that's important on SN because?
[11:57:34] <Konomi> technically
[11:57:40] <Konomi> it's so you know it's always the same AC ;p
[11:57:56] <crutchy> so it's just a big wank :p
[11:57:58] <chromas> but since he didn't include the key, anyone changing it could just replace the signature
[11:58:00] <Konomi> because wanking as you call it is how we got encrpytion and security in the first place
[11:58:05] <Alberto> i mod it as troll
[11:58:06] <Alberto> :P
[11:58:10] * Alberto has 4 poits left
[11:58:21] <Konomi> your arguement is tandum to people in the 90s saying pft ssl we don't need that are you crazy
[11:58:37] <chromas> Alberto: better to reply with the same comment but signed with a different key :)
[11:58:42] <crutchy> i can prove all my comments are from me. there's this cool new thing called signing up :D
[11:58:51] <Alberto> crutchy, exatly
[11:58:54] <Konomi> that does not prove the comments are from you
[11:59:08] <crutchy> its as good as a pgp key
[11:59:13] <Konomi> it proves they came from your account
[11:59:29] <chromas> maybe we need to poke t.mb for a pgp public key slot in the user info
[11:59:30] <crutchy> pgp only proves that it came from a private key
[11:59:56] <Konomi> yes and a private key is only expoitable at the end user
[12:00:00] <Alberto> Konomi, then lets make comments p2p
[12:00:01] <Alberto> right
[12:00:07] <Alberto> crazy people needs to encrypt things
[12:00:13] <Alberto> because they "hide" something ;)
[12:00:17] <Konomi> in your circumstance it's exploitable all the way up to soylent and to the person loading it
[12:00:26] <crutchy> that private key is about as secure as my account
[12:00:36] <Konomi> incorrect as stated above
[12:00:45] <Konomi> the attack surface is smaller
[12:00:50] <Konomi> so that is factually incorrect
[12:01:10] <crutchy> mkay
[12:01:19] <crutchy> so how do i prove its the same guy again?
[12:01:56] <chromas> "You should be able to locate my key on a public key server."
[12:02:12] <chromas> There you go, you just look for Anonymous Coward on A public key server
[12:02:17] <Konomi> you request his public key from a public server
[12:02:21] <Konomi> multiple ones if you want to be paranoid
[12:02:28] <Konomi> you copy the plain text and his key into pgp
[12:02:39] <Konomi> and it will tell you if it has been modified or not
[12:02:45] <crutchy> so its like a checksum
[12:02:49] <Konomi> yep
[12:02:56] <Konomi> crpytographic checksum
[12:03:33] <Konomi> pgp is sort of the end all be all of fucking the nsa in a lot of areas
[12:03:36] <chromas> ~google Anonymous Coward pubic key
[12:03:43] <Konomi> but it never caught on cause in the 90s the government was shitting bricks over it
[12:03:56] <Konomi> practically threating to van the people who made it
[12:04:12] <Konomi> encrpytion prvents them reading your shit
[12:04:14] <keplr> "We kill people based on metadata."
[12:04:15] <Konomi> pgp stops them faking your shit
[12:04:35] <keplr> Who cares what your e-mails contain, we see that you sent them to the wrong guy. DRONE STRIKE.
[12:04:38] <Konomi> or more so public key crpytography does
[12:04:46] <Konomi> pgp is just an implementation
[12:05:14] <Konomi> they won't drone strike anyone in a usa city ;p
[12:05:20] <Konomi> that stuff is still far too inaccurate
[12:05:38] <Konomi> country town might call for some paranoia ha
[12:05:40] <crutchy> i can see how it would be secure, and its true that the attack surface is smaller (assuming the guy's computer is secure, which assume it would be cos he's using pgp)
[12:05:48] <keplr> People get disappeared every day from the USA for this shit.
[12:05:48] <crutchy> but its still a big wank :D
[12:05:55] <Konomi> it's a good wank
[12:05:57] <Konomi> as ssl was
[12:06:06] <Konomi> people nay sayed it too
[12:06:13] <Konomi> then they got fucked in the arse and learned better
[12:06:14] <Konomi> nograb
[12:06:18] <Konomi> cause I hate you ;p
[12:06:21] <crutchy> ssl is a wank
[12:06:26] <chromas> tls++
[12:06:26] <Bender> karma - tls: 2
[12:06:34] <Konomi> you're australian I guess it's normal
[12:06:36] <Konomi> ;p
[12:06:50] <crutchy> ssl is an assumption of security
[12:06:56] <crutchy> without knowing for sure
[12:07:19] <chromas> crutchy: don't you go to the houses of all the keyholders and exchange keys with them?
[12:07:24] <Konomi> that's what certificates are for...
[12:07:51] <chromas> and do tests first to make sure you're really there and not in some virtual reality to convince you to accept fake keys
[12:07:55] <crutchy> one day someone will crack ssl (if they haven't already) and suddenly it won't be secure, but that means it was never really secure in the first place
[12:08:20] <crutchy> like md5
[12:08:33] <Konomi> different situation but I'm not surprised you're confused about the two
[12:08:36] <crutchy> though i guess thats a hash
[12:09:05] <chromas> so is a digital signature
[12:09:12] <crutchy> uber nerds get all pissy about the difference between hashing and encryption, but meh
[12:09:20] <crutchy> its all in the same blob of jibberish
[12:09:49] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:09:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Pretty Good Privacy
[12:09:54] <Konomi> has shiney graphics for people
[12:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:09:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[12:10:02] <keplr> coffee++
[12:10:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[12:10:05] <crutchy> ++coffee
[12:10:05] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 188
[12:10:12] <keplr> beer++
[12:10:12] <Bender> karma - beer: 26
[12:10:22] <keplr> Well that just isn't right.
[12:10:30] <Konomi> oh coffee got fixed
[12:10:33] <Konomi> much neat
[12:10:39] <Konomi> caffeine++
[12:10:39] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 60
[12:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't back you on that quite yet. must wake up a lot first
[12:11:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> the beer i mean
[12:11:37] <keplr> I'm on Korean time
[12:11:43] <Konomi> did you know buzzards aka vultures are one of the few species that can eat necrotic flesh ~
[12:12:03] <chromas> That's why he can work on slash
[12:12:15] <keplr> I did know that, I'm a biologist
[12:12:21] <Konomi> kewl
[12:12:25] <Konomi> tell me cool stuff
[12:12:29] * Konomi prods with a stick
[12:12:44] <keplr> You'll die one day and you won't know it.
[12:12:44] <Konomi> what field of biology do you study?
[12:13:05] <Konomi> hmm that seems rather conflictive you don't know if I will die suddenly or in agony >.>
[12:13:16] <keplr> animal behavior
[12:13:34] <Konomi> just that specific field?
[12:13:50] <keplr> It's an area of focus
[12:14:07] <keplr> within organismal biology, or zoology
[12:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> so you'd know why apes throw poop, aside from the obvious humor value.
[12:14:11] <Konomi> any specific group of animals?
[12:14:13] <Konomi> ah I see
[12:14:24] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard that was actually pretty acurate ;p
[12:14:28] <keplr> I mostly work with mice
[12:14:31] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: do they need another reason?
[12:14:53] <chromas> s/th(e)y/w\1/
[12:14:53] <sedctl> <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: do we need another reason?
[12:14:56] <Konomi> what are working on atm?
[12:15:24] <keplr> Actually nothing really right now. I'm proably going to be out of the job soon.
[12:15:31] <Konomi> wow that sucks...
[12:15:33] <Konomi> sorry to hear
[12:15:47] <Konomi> wait you're not from australia are you?
[12:15:58] <keplr> No, USA
[12:16:23] <Konomi> okay was just wondering since our science agency here is practically getting gutted by the conversative government atm
[12:16:28] <Konomi> was just checking if you were a victum or not
[12:16:38] <keplr> Science is being gutted everywhere
[12:17:04] <Konomi> well stupid rhetoric is easily absorbed when scientists aren't around to call politicans fuck wits
[12:17:08] <Konomi> so yeah >.<
[12:17:23] <keplr> I'm sure the next generation of MBAs will more than make up for our neglect of science.
[12:17:36] <Konomi> hmm maybe
[12:17:48] <Konomi> young peeps don't see much light at the end of the tunnel lately
[12:17:51] <Konomi> I can vouch for that ;p
[12:17:58] <crutchy> poop-throwing apes have already taken over the world
[12:18:17] <Konomi> visualising a few politicans I can sorta agree with that
[12:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> biology's always been a tough degree to keep employed with
[12:18:24] <keplr> I'd rather be in research than making three times as much money selling pharmaceuticals
[12:18:41] <Konomi> comendable statement ~
[12:18:53] <keplr> and I could be
[12:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> have a friend with a biology degree ended up not being able to find anything related past entry level barely paid jobs
[12:19:51] <keplr> I believe it
[12:19:55] <Konomi> unfortunatly that is a fact for a lot of people doing higher education now
[12:19:56] <keplr> It's horrible right now
[12:20:01] <Konomi> I have lets see
[12:20:18] <Konomi> 3 years of study in my field 2 years of experience and I sitll can't find a damn job
[12:20:19] <ciri> 4
[12:20:20] <ciri> 5
[12:20:22] <ciri> 6
[12:20:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> so now he makes fat cash at a place that makes cattle feed additives.
[12:20:23] <Konomi> that being said I live in a ...
[12:20:24] <ciri> 7
[12:20:26] <ciri> 8
[12:20:26] <Konomi> god fucking damn it ciri
[12:20:28] <ciri> 9
[12:20:30] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:20:33] * Konomi bites ciri
[12:20:37] <Konomi> grrr
[12:20:44] <Konomi> live in a country town*
[12:21:08] <Konomi> morals, job: pick one ._.
[12:21:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Virus Means Deadlier Flu Season is Possible - http://sylnt.us - educated-guess
[12:21:17] <keplr> This country doesn't value basic research and education. And the anti-intellectualism that both major parties push is only going to make it worse in the future decades.
[12:21:21] <crutchy> Konomi, does your client have /ignore feature?
[12:21:32] <Konomi> yeah we have that happening in here in australia keplr
[12:21:40] <Konomi> yeah but I like yelling at ciri
[12:21:52] <crutchy> keplr, research in the USA has been crippled by the PTO
[12:21:56] <Konomi> plus ignoring people or bots for that matter makes you wonder what others are replying to
[12:22:14] <chromas> ciri++ for # rustling jimmies
[12:22:14] <Bender> karma - ciri: -30
[12:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> these guys is who he currently manages a distribution hub for: http://www.gapinc-usa.com
[12:22:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03Global Animal Products
[12:23:04] <Konomi> clicking just to see how much of a reality distortion field it has
[12:23:10] <chromas> crutchy: nah, patents just mean we gotta keep our research secret
[12:23:19] <Konomi> wow 1990 called wants it's web site back
[12:23:42] <chromas> software patents mean we gotta keep driver code private because nobody isn't infringing
[12:23:48] <Konomi> orange text on yellow background
[12:23:51] <keplr> And at the same time, automation is obsoleting thousands of jobs a month. In a couple decades, a person of mere average intelligence will be unable to find a buyer for his labor (a job).
[12:23:55] <Konomi> who can I stab for this \o/
[12:24:11] <Konomi> yup
[12:24:14] <Konomi> where is my favourite video on that
[12:24:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, truth but they give everyone a company truck every two years, keep the fridge stocked with beer, and you end up doing yard work about half the time because there's nothing to do.
[12:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> new phone n computer every three, do whatever you like with the old one.
[12:24:52] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:24:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Humans Need Not Apply - YouTube
[12:24:57] <crutchy> keplr, that's OK cos the gubmint will look after us
[12:25:15] <Konomi> irony this came on during the conversation ;p
[12:25:18] * Konomi np: Tears For Fears - Mad world - 1983 - Pop.flac :: 21M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[12:25:20] <keplr> Either that or the masses will riot and burn it all down.
[12:25:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> down side is they're all fucking west texans
[12:25:31] <Konomi> eww
[12:25:33] <keplr> I'd rather things happen orderly and peacefully
[12:25:37] <Konomi> hick land
[12:25:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> which basically means assholes.
[12:25:43] <keplr> I don't want my house being destroyed.
[12:25:44] <Konomi> that's like nightmare material
[12:26:02] <crutchy> keplr, empires don't usually fall gently
[12:26:34] <keplr> We're not falling, we can still be the most powerful empire. And we should be. No country takes personal liberty as far as the USA.
[12:26:47] <keplr> No country honours freedom of expression the way we do.
[12:26:48] <crutchy> if only the USA had some
[12:26:50] <Konomi> I want to see a global community
[12:26:55] <Konomi> not the free trade crap either ;p
[12:27:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> keplr, "takes persona liberty" both meanings of takes lately.
[12:27:32] <crutchy> lol
[12:27:55] <crutchy> democracy truly means mob rule in US
[12:28:04] <Konomi> oohh another image for that too
[12:28:06] * Konomi digs
[12:28:15] <crutchy> the mob isn't the voting public either
[12:28:23] <crutchy> its literally "the mob"
[12:28:39] <Konomi> http://i7.minus.com
[12:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> the mob is pretty much all democrat voters. leastways if you want the violent ones what are prone to riot.
[12:29:14] <Konomi> thehe my sorting payed off I can actually find things when i remember them \o/
[12:29:18] <crutchy> nah democrats are losing their grip
[12:29:57] <crutchy> democrats and republicans are just an illusion anyway
[12:30:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> the whole furgeson thing was democrats rioting against a democrat administration there
[12:30:08] <keplr> I vote Green Party USA. I support gun ownership, universal Healthcare, free college education, and dismantling the NSA.
[12:30:18] <keplr> NO ONE likes my platform
[12:30:35] <keplr> I piss everyone off, and no one wants me in their party.
[12:30:46] <Konomi> greens will take you
[12:30:46] <crutchy> we have universal healthcare here. it kinda works for a small population, but it aint awesome
[12:30:53] <crutchy> its still driven by money
[12:30:58] <keplr> But I like nuclear power
[12:31:06] <Konomi> I like nuclear power too
[12:31:13] <crutchy> free college education also isn't free
[12:31:14] <keplr> I like solar more, but I live a few miles from a nuke plant
[12:31:14] <Konomi> I just don't like capitalism building it
[12:31:15] <Konomi> ;p
[12:31:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> keplr, ya, i can't dig green. now libertarian i can get with. "I want gay married couples to be able to defend their pot farm with guns"
[12:31:22] <crutchy> taxpayers pay for everything
[12:31:31] <Konomi> green is a good strategic vote
[12:31:38] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, hear hear
[12:31:44] <Konomi> you should vote for the largers third party you can find
[12:31:46] <keplr> TheMightyBuzzard: but libertarians won't accept taxes to pay for healthcare and college for everyone
[12:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> stole that from a canadian
[12:31:53] <Konomi> largest*
[12:32:17] <crutchy> libertarians just don't wanna fuck taxpayers up the arse whilst telling them they can't squirm
[12:32:19] <Konomi> I think of it as a proof
[12:32:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> keplr, not entirely true. we just want any large scale taxes to be voluntary.
[12:32:31] <Konomi> cause a lot of people will not vote for third parties cause it's "a waste of my vote"
[12:32:43] <Konomi> until a third party gets strong enough to make a difference that mentality will stand
[12:32:49] <Konomi> so I always vote for the largest third party
[12:32:56] <crutchy> greens are dumb
[12:33:01] <crutchy> in australia anyways
[12:33:04] <keplr> TheMightyBuzzard: it's a tragedy of the commons scenario. Old rich people won't voluntarily pay taxes beccause they don't get the benefit
[12:33:08] <Konomi> once I can set a precident I can go for another party more suited
[12:33:30] <keplr> People aren't altruisitic enough to rely on voluntary taxation
[12:33:42] <crutchy> i wish we had a libertarian party that had a clue what libertarianism is
[12:33:46] <Konomi> keplr: I agree
[12:34:05] <Konomi> a structure where people have to rely on each other is much better than alturism imo
[12:34:12] <keplr> I'm libertarian on all social issues, I wish we could cooperate on all of that
[12:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> keplr, how about something like you will pay 15% of your gross income in taxes but you get to choose where it gets spent?
[12:34:15] <Konomi> in fact I think that's what alturism "really is" (tm)
[12:34:17] <crutchy> if government was small as it should be there wouldn't need to be much taxes
[12:34:35] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: that'd get you back to the mob rules issue
[12:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, truth.
[12:34:53] <Konomi> hmm
[12:34:55] <keplr> TheMightyBuzzard: people won't allocate things effectively. They just don't have the knowledge or inclination
[12:35:01] <Konomi> I would be interested to see governemnt being shrank
[12:35:07] <Konomi> I would like to see what anarchy is like ;p
[12:35:08] <crutchy> keplr, s/people/government/
[12:35:08] <sedctl> <crutchy> <keplr> TheMightyBuzzard: government won't allocate things effectively. They just don't have the knowledge or inclination
[12:35:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, nah. lets everyone campaign for the projects they want to see instead of the politicians who are going to screw them.
[12:35:32] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: sounds like direct democracy
[12:35:38] <keplr> crutchy: government can allocate things effectively. NASA is fantastically effective
[12:35:45] <crutchy> nobody spends other peoples money as wisely as they spend their own
[12:35:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit indirect but ya sorta.
[12:35:51] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:35:51] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Direct democracy
[12:35:52] <crutchy> the NSA is a *huge* waste of money
[12:35:54] <keplr> the US Military is amazngly potent
[12:35:59] <Konomi> "Direct democracy (also known as pure democracy)[1] is a form of democracy in which people decide (e.g. vote on, form consensus on) policy initiatives directly."
[12:36:10] <Konomi> aka not representation
[12:36:17] <crutchy> the US military has billions of unaccounted funds
[12:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> you hafta pay but you DON'T have to pay for something you're ideologically opposed to.
[12:36:19] <keplr> I do like the idea of direct democracy for local problems
[12:36:39] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: the problem with it is the majority can be a bunch of pricks
[12:36:43] <Konomi> specially if they're uneducated
[12:36:49] <crutchy> Konomi, true
[12:37:11] <crutchy> if you promise idiots free stuff they will vote with/fore you every time
[12:37:22] <Konomi> it's really about education tbh
[12:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, don't let em pass the laws or decide on specifics, just decide come tax time to fund or not fund a general area of government.
[12:37:36] <Konomi> more educated someone is the more likely they are to be progressive
[12:37:42] <crutchy> lol
[12:37:42] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[12:37:44] <keplr> Idiots gonna idiot. You pay for them either way. Pay to lock them up. Pay for their welfare
[12:37:47] <crutchy> progressives are idiots
[12:37:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ewww, progressive
[12:37:53] <crutchy> maybe they're educated idiots
[12:38:06] <Konomi> crutchy is an expert in idiocy ;p
[12:38:10] <crutchy> with degrees in idiocracy
[12:38:16] <Konomi> love that movie
[12:38:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> progressive is a really stupid term and anyone what thinks it's a good thing has never asked themselves what are we progressing towards.
[12:38:29] <Konomi> all political terms are
[12:38:32] <crutchy> its all about growth tmb
[12:38:37] <crutchy> growth of debt
[12:38:38] <Konomi> I'm mostly progresive but not entirely
[12:39:00] <keplr> Look at the drug war. It is indisputable that it's cheaper to just pay to give them daily shots of heroin, than to pay for extra police and courts. So why not do that?
[12:39:11] <Konomi> cause moral panic
[12:39:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> liberal or conservative make sense, at least somewhat. progressive is aimless and bends to whatever the douches of the day say it should.
[12:39:23] <Konomi> another aspect is this
[12:39:27] <Konomi> everyone might start doing it
[12:39:32] <Konomi> and if the system has no one to do labour
[12:39:43] <Konomi> the little sociopaths in the higher up areas get fucked
[12:39:45] <keplr> But we know everyone won't start doing it
[12:39:47] <crutchy> i'm not socially conservative... they're usually the religious nutbags
[12:39:54] <keplr> We've done these experiments in the world
[12:39:59] <crutchy> i'm definitely economically conservative though
[12:39:59] <Konomi> keplr: it's not that everyone would do it it's that everyone might eventually do it
[12:40:04] <keplr> It didn't happen.
[12:40:22] <Konomi> I'm not saying it will happen that way I'm saying that's what they worry about
[12:40:24] <keplr> It never happens. People don't become drug addicts if given the choice
[12:40:32] <keplr> THey just don't
[12:40:35] <crutchy> Keynesianism--
[12:40:35] <Bender> karma - keynesianism: -1
[12:40:35] <Konomi> "what would happen if my work force didn't turn up today cause they were all high"
[12:40:38] <Konomi> trust me
[12:40:41] <Konomi> employers have thought it
[12:40:52] <crutchy> Austrian_economic_school++
[12:40:52] <Bender> karma - austrian_economic_school: 1
[12:40:55] <keplr> But it just doesn't happen IN REALITY
[12:41:02] <keplr> People actually want to do work
[12:41:11] <keplr> When the work is meaningful
[12:41:11] <Konomi> reality doesn't matter much to people who are afraid of something
[12:41:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> in case of recession break glass then use handbroom behind glass to sweep up glass = keynsianism
[12:41:27] <Konomi> and old people (as a majority not all) are afraid of change
[12:41:41] <Konomi> there's been studies that show the older you get the more likely you are to hate change ;p
[12:41:52] <Konomi> so crutchy is probably 80 by now
[12:41:54] * Konomi runs for it
[12:41:58] <crutchy> Konomi, if a workforce didn't turn up, the bosses would in many cases just ring up a labor hire or professional consultancy
[12:42:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> all people are afraid of change unless it's one they're proposing.
[12:42:02] <keplr> Cannabis legalization has been done as an experiment and it's immensely succesful
[12:42:09] <Konomi> crutchy: all everyone not just one work place
[12:42:12] <Konomi> get the concept ;p
[12:42:18] <crutchy> that would never happen
[12:42:24] <Konomi> like I said
[12:42:25] <crutchy> cos not everyone is that dumb
[12:42:26] <Konomi> I don't think it would
[12:42:30] <Konomi> but emploers DO worry about it
[12:42:39] <Konomi> everyone has irrational worries
[12:42:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> keplr, it's going to take decades before that can be declared. you have a lot of ramifications to sort out.
[12:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it should be legal but i don't think legalizing it is necessarily a good thing
[12:43:22] <crutchy> ron paul was pushing for marajuana legalisation
[12:43:27] <crutchy> rand is too
[12:43:38] <crutchy> and an end to the drug war
[12:43:41] <Konomi> I pro legalisation of all drugs with the limitations that taboaco and alochol have
[12:43:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ron is a git and rand is becoming more and more the party line republican
[12:43:53] <Konomi> get 18 not hurting anyone else
[12:43:58] <Konomi> shove anything you want inside yourself
[12:44:00] <crutchy> he's not a neocon though
[12:44:01] <Konomi> I have no issue
[12:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, that's evil. smokes have like 75% of their cost tax.
[12:44:17] <Konomi> yeah governments rake in a mint from that ;p
[12:44:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's another semi-voluntary tax there btw
[12:44:49] <Konomi> the lower on the socioeconomic scale you are the more likely you are to smoke too
[12:44:57] <Konomi> same for people being overweight actually
[12:45:12] <crutchy> the only voluntary tax is sales tax
[12:45:17] <Konomi> there's actually people who get overweight and are malnorished at the same time
[12:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, it's still entirely cultural if you're going to smoke or not. has diddly to do with your paycheck.
[12:45:32] <Konomi> because the food is so much pure sugar/salt that it has nothing else
[12:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> correlative not causal.
[12:46:06] <Konomi> you still have to ask why do lower classes of people smoke more ;p
[12:46:11] <Konomi> it's still a fact they do
[12:46:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, could also have a state run lotto. very voluntary.
[12:46:19] <Konomi> even if you think the reason is not lining up
[12:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause rich people don't go around worrying about looking cool like james dean.
[12:47:03] <crutchy> i think poor people (assuming we're talking welfare bums) smoke more cos they don't appreciate their income as much as someone who works for it so they care less about blowing it on shit
[12:47:23] <crutchy> they generally drink more, gamble more, buy more useless shit like fancy tvs
[12:47:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, that's WHY they're poor not because of it.
[12:48:01] <crutchy> its behavioural
[12:48:03] <Konomi> agreed with TheMightyBuzzard that premise has been found to be flawed before
[12:48:27] <crutchy> if someone is given something, they won't appreciate it as much as if they worked for it
[12:48:43] <Konomi> there are already studies that show poor people balance more things at once due to their precarious fincial situations
[12:48:55] <Konomi> ergo causing more stress
[12:48:55] <crutchy> i have observed otherwise
[12:49:11] <Konomi> studies trump your observations
[12:49:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> being one paycheck away from hungry is stress enough
[12:49:28] <Konomi> friend of a friend is not scientific evidence
[12:49:42] <crutchy> to you they should, but i'll believe my own eyes
[12:50:07] <Konomi> moon landings must be a hard thing for you to grasp if that's your requirement ;p
[12:50:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i live fairly poor myself. the only thing i really splurge on with any regularity is my computer.
[12:50:40] <crutchy> people on centerlink are so fucking entitled its funny to watch them blow their tops if their pay is a day late
[12:50:51] <Konomi> I don't splurge at all myself I'm very cautious about spending
[12:51:18] <crutchy> people with jobs stress about money just as much as welfare bums
[12:51:54] <crutchy> Konomi, maybe you can have a word to my missus :p
[12:51:56] <Konomi> sorry i'm going to go with the science
[12:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't make gerzillions but i'm about to take an unknown quantity of unpaid vacation and can do it without worrying too much about depleting all my savings.
[12:52:09] <crutchy> science is just another religion
[12:52:18] <Konomi> incorrect
[12:52:29] <crutchy> sounds religious
[12:52:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually he's semi-correct
[12:52:34] <Konomi> there are vast differences between science and every religion
[12:52:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless it's something you've verified yourself, you're taking it on faith
[12:52:49] <crutchy> there's vast differences between all religion
[12:52:55] <crutchy> but they share some things in common
[12:53:15] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: that's more about trust than science
[12:53:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but it applies just as well
[12:53:47] <crutchy> scientists are religious kooks that expect everyone to take their word on faith
[12:54:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'the whole reason for the scientific method including a bit where results must be verifiable by others.
[12:54:16] <Konomi> esactly
[12:54:19] <crutchy> scientific method is different
[12:54:19] <Konomi> religion does not do that
[12:54:34] <crutchy> science != scientific method
[12:54:39] <Konomi> >.>
[12:54:53] <Konomi> news just in water not part of being wet either
[12:54:55] <crutchy> take all that 'big bang' bullshit for example
[12:54:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, f that. science ONLY = the scientific method. all other claims to science are false.
[12:55:12] <Konomi> lets go to wikipedia
[12:55:13] <Konomi> oh look
[12:55:16] <Konomi> "Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge"[1]) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe."
[12:55:19] <crutchy> there's no scientific method to string theory
[12:55:25] <crutchy> or the big bang
[12:55:38] <crutchy> or even relativity
[12:55:56] <crutchy> its all just theory that correlates with some observation
[12:56:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, most of those should still be hypothesis. relativity however can be observed directly.
[12:56:08] * Konomi nods
[12:56:22] <Konomi> just becausse you can't know something doesn't mean other things you do know are suddenly invalid
[12:56:27] <crutchy> can you prove for certain that nothing can travel faster than light?
[12:56:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> experiments can be proposed, carried out, and will come out the same.
[12:56:39] <Konomi> and even if they are the point of science is to be as accurate as possible at the current time index
[12:56:50] <Konomi> science can update when things are found out to be different
[12:56:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, that's an ancillary hypothesis to relativity, not relativity.
[12:56:59] <Konomi> the fluidity of that is what makes science different from religion
[12:57:05] <crutchy> Konomi, that's true, but scientists behave as if they are always right no matter what
[12:57:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> fer instance, tachyons are hypothesized to travel faster than light.
[12:57:17] <Konomi> no you think scientists behave that way
[12:57:28] <crutchy> Konomi, i have observed it
[12:57:38] <Konomi> once again with your personal observations
[12:57:48] <crutchy> isn't that what science is all about?
[12:57:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> he ain't wrong about human nature fucking up proper science though
[12:57:57] <Konomi> no it's about cumulative results
[12:58:04] <crutchy> no its not
[12:58:11] <Konomi> having one source of information and saying it is this way is not scientific at all
[12:58:38] <crutchy> it would but i'm not the only one that has made this observation
[12:58:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> witness climate change. no predictive experiments proven right there but they almost all claim theory rather than hypothesis.
[12:59:03] <crutchy> and i'm also not claiming to be a scientist
[12:59:13] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: that's mostly cause we're not cool enough to calculate every interaction on the planet
[12:59:21] <Konomi> and we probably can't due to the massive power requirements ;p
[12:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, truth. which is why we should say what we know not what we believe
[12:59:53] <Konomi> yep
[13:00:12] <crutchy> i couldn't be so arrogant as to assume i knew how the universe was created
[13:00:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a bit pedantic but i hate people claiming fact when they only have a hypothesis.
[13:00:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> no matter how well supported by PAST data
[13:00:48] <crutchy> or even that supernatural beings don't exist
[13:01:06] <Konomi> problem with climate change TheMightyBuzzard is you don't want to find out if it's a theory cause if it is you are sooo fucked ;p
[13:01:16] <Konomi> maybe if we had a second earth to fuck with ;p
[13:01:25] <crutchy> there is a lot of creepy shit that 'science' can't explain... but they just write it off as made up
[13:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that one annoys me too. physics could very well be the source code of God for all we know.
[13:01:41] <Konomi> hmm I don't make that assocation anymore
[13:01:55] <Konomi> if you start with the definiton of god and see it flawed in concept it's easier to not attach that meaning to it
[13:02:22] <crutchy> i don't think of it so much as 'god' but as a supernatural being
[13:02:24] <Konomi> you could say everything around you is anything around you and it still fits
[13:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i don't claim knowledge either way. pointless to even hypothesize if you've no way of proving your hypothesis.
[13:02:40] <crutchy> i don't personally believe in a deity, but i wouldn't assume their was none
[13:02:44] <Konomi> it just is I don't think about it until I can pull it apart
[13:02:45] <Konomi> ;p
[13:02:55] <Konomi> anything else is a thought exercise
[13:03:05] <crutchy> yeah but you're a shell coder though :D
[13:03:12] <Konomi> I code more than shell
[13:03:15] <Konomi> I am just lazy ;p
[13:03:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, only until we get her hired on as a perl coder.
[13:03:35] <crutchy> shell is like carbureta of motors
[13:03:45] <Konomi> C is nice
[13:03:51] <chromas> crutchy: not used anymore?
[13:03:56] <Konomi> perl I like due to it's C likeness
[13:03:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> shell is actually pretty cool. bash is extremely versatile for a shell.
[13:04:07] <crutchy> stuff that you can fix with your bare hands
[13:04:24] <Konomi> that depends on the person
[13:04:34] <Konomi> linus used to code in binary cause he thought that was how you were supposwed to code
[13:04:42] <crutchy> i heard that
[13:04:43] <Konomi> anyone can do anything with their bare hands
[13:04:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> and carburetors are still used on many things
[13:04:45] <crutchy> die hard
[13:04:49] <Konomi> it depends on how much you want to learn
[13:04:55] <crutchy> lawnmowers are fun
[13:04:57] <crutchy> NOT!
[13:05:07] <Konomi> I prefer flying lawn mowers
[13:05:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wanna make a lawnba. like a roomba but much cooler.
[13:05:30] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[13:05:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03Flying Lawnmower - YouTube
[13:05:32] <chromas> carburetor:fuel injection — shellcode:...injection? systemd?
[13:05:32] <Konomi> love that copyrighty
[13:06:08] <crutchy> lawnmowing is an excuse for blokes to get away from their missus/kids for a couple of hours
[13:06:16] <Konomi> I'm still amazed to this day how well that works
[13:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> no thas fishing
[13:06:27] <Konomi> and that video is like
[13:06:29] <Konomi> early 90s
[13:06:40] <crutchy> but women resent their husbands fishing... you pay for it later
[13:06:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. give him someone else's fish and he'll vote for you.
[13:06:48] <crutchy> but lawnmowing is a chore that must be done
[13:06:53] <crutchy> lol
[13:06:56] <crutchy> true
[13:07:21] <Konomi> what if you don't like fish?
[13:07:31] <crutchy> then you're not a bloke
[13:07:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i don't like fish.
[13:07:53] <Konomi> what if you have an allergy then ~
[13:07:58] <crutchy> ok sorry that was almost e-f level dirty
[13:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just like catching them.
[13:08:04] <Konomi> I like fish can I be a guy now?
[13:08:25] <crutchy> you could be a rug muncher
[13:08:34] <Konomi> I already am
[13:08:37] * crutchy shows himself the door
[13:08:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there ya go then. prollem solved.
[13:09:00] <Konomi> I still don't get that term
[13:09:01] * TheMightyBuzzard smakes crutchy around a bit on general principle
[13:09:06] <Konomi> it's not like guys can't rug munch
[13:09:15] <crutchy> true. i'm married
[13:09:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> we'd damned well better.
[13:09:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> as a general rule
[13:09:41] <Konomi> should I avert this line of reasoning due to the rules ;p
[13:10:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'like cocksucker though. generally not used on women cause that's considered a positive.
[13:10:21] <Konomi> those double standards ;p
[13:10:46] <crutchy> blokes are like fish; we're enticed by a nice rug, and then it sinks its fangs into us and reels us in, and then we get cut up and smoked
[13:10:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> separate yet equal has to happen if you're in fact different.
[13:10:48] <Konomi> I know plenty of gay guys who have sucked um way more than um
[13:10:50] <Konomi> you get the idea
[13:11:38] <Konomi> I'm kinda glad to not have to deal with the horney aspect guys seem to get
[13:11:42] <Konomi> seems really inconvienant
[13:11:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> and pants adjusty
[13:12:02] <crutchy> we're just poop-flinging apes
[13:12:09] <crutchy> can't help it
[13:12:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> the worst of it mostly goes away after your 20s though.
[13:13:06] <crutchy> i'm in my 30s and even the thought of cheating is hard work
[13:13:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lack imagination then
[13:13:46] <crutchy> prolly
[13:13:54] <Konomi> perm marker and put a face on your hand ;p
[13:13:56] * Konomi hides
[13:14:06] <crutchy> mrs palmer and her five daughters eh
[13:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what porn was created for really.
[13:14:22] <Konomi> the last part of that is kinda disturbing ;p
[13:14:25] <chromas> (mrs palmer gives crutchy the finger)
[13:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> teenagers don't need it.
[13:14:37] <Konomi> yup ;p
[13:14:43] <crutchy> even pron is kinda boring
[13:14:48] * Konomi nods
[13:14:55] <crutchy> need aliens or summin to make it more interesting
[13:15:01] <chromas> tentacles
[13:15:02] <crutchy> or goats
[13:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, welcome to the internet and rule #34
[13:15:10] <chromas> neigh
[13:15:13] <Konomi> poor goat
[13:15:23] <chromas> SoylentPorn
[13:15:35] <chromas> #34 or #34
[13:15:38] <Konomi> please no
[13:15:39] <chromas> s/r/n/
[13:15:39] <sedctl> <chromas> #34 on #34
[13:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> no way, yo. we're a sausage fest up in this staff and i likes the ladies.
[13:15:58] <chromas> wait, I'm #34 on SN
[13:16:03] <chromas> Got a lot of work to do
[13:16:15] * Konomi looks for bleech to pour into her eyes
[13:16:32] * chromas opens mspaint
[13:16:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, yeah, prolly a good idear.
[13:17:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're largely 30s guys and a significant portion of us is overweight too.
[13:17:16] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i'm still trying to make sense of the sausage fest thing
[13:17:24] <crutchy> ah now i get it
[13:17:39] <crutchy> i think
[13:17:49] * crutchy goes back to gedit
[13:17:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, all penis, no vagina.
[13:18:17] <chromas> wait but we're all meat-eaters
[13:18:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> never thought i'd hafta splain that one.
[13:19:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, zactly. i don't need or want extra protein in bed.
[13:19:47] <crutchy> yay. finally gots some ircd messaging working. helps if i'm testing the program i'm working on
[13:19:53] <crutchy> :/
[13:20:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, here's some important breaking news... go reuters! http://www.reuters.com
[13:20:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Obama, complaining of sore throat, diagnosed with acid reflux| Reuters
[13:20:32] <crutchy> saw that one
[13:20:36] <crutchy> boooooring
[13:20:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, even /. generally does better
[13:21:04] <crutchy> his throat is prolly sore from all the lies
[13:21:18] <Konomi> even I knew that one ;p
[13:21:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, lies are slippery and soothing
[13:21:59] * Konomi np: Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc - Unknown genre - 2011.flac :: 24M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[13:22:02] <Konomi> \o/
[13:22:05] <chromas> crutchy: you're supposed to link the sore throat to lobbyists and rule 34
[13:22:08] <crutchy> or maybe its all the sausage from his puppet masters
[13:22:14] <Konomi> hmm should tag that pretty sure they're alternative rock
[13:22:23] <Konomi> or alt punk one of the two
[13:22:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing punk about gorillaz
[13:23:20] <Konomi> hm guess so alt rock is the genre tag on wikipedia
[13:23:22] <Konomi> also electronica
[13:23:27] * TheMightyBuzzard is a purist when it comes to punk
[13:23:37] <crutchy> clint eastwood sounds nice on a big sub
[13:24:15] <Konomi> like the song but played to death
[13:24:19] <crutchy> my brah had a 15" in his ute when that song was popular
[13:24:21] <Konomi> I prefer their other songs
[13:24:45] <Konomi> inch
[13:24:50] <Konomi> what are you a filthy american ;p
[13:25:50] <chromas> metric needs symbolic abbrevs
[13:26:00] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:26:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Noodle (Gorillaz)
[13:26:02] <Konomi> <3
[13:26:48] * Konomi np: LIGHTS - 'My Boots' Official Lyric Video [hiLHe3mkJf0] [YouTube 140 - audio only (DASH audio)].m4a :: 3.0M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[13:26:55] <Konomi> recent artist I found
[13:26:57] <Konomi> love her
[13:28:13] <crutchy> aussies are supposed to know metric and imperial. otherwise how can we be slaves to both euro and US?
[13:28:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> got that backwards, it's so yer not slaves to either
[13:29:08] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[13:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't decide if The Offspring qualify as punk or not.
[13:29:36] <crutchy> ew
[13:29:47] * crutchy doesn't like punk much
[13:30:01] <crutchy> almost typed pink
[13:30:06] <crutchy> don't like her much either
[13:30:06] <chromas> but yelling is fun
[13:30:34] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: I liked their first album ^^
[13:30:40] <Konomi> in fact I have it ;p
[13:30:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> punk ftw. shave your head, jump in a pit, elbow some motherfuckers, get your face half smashed in, call it a good show.
[13:31:13] * Konomi np: The Offspring - She's Got Issues - Rock -1998.flac :: 88M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[13:31:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, ya i dig em just not sure if they're proper punk
[13:31:16] <Konomi> \o/
[13:31:16] <chromas> shave your head but never your beard
[13:31:23] <Konomi> eww missed a dash
[13:31:26] <Konomi> erm space
[13:31:28] <Konomi> OCD MUST FIX
[13:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i do every couple months. saves on haircuts.
[13:32:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> let it grow out in the winter n hit it with clippers weekly in the summer
[13:32:30] <chromas> I do that but less often
[13:32:44] <chromas> and my chinny chin chinn is folically challenged :(
[13:32:57] <chromas> must be why I like pascal
[13:33:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, can't beard up enough to properly dig perl.
[13:33:24] <Konomi> bloodhound gang punk you think TheMightyBuzzard?
[13:33:28] * chromas consults the beard:language table
[13:33:50] <Konomi> hard to tell punk from alt rock imo ._.
[13:33:55] <Konomi> much overlap
[13:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, not quite no. offspring are pretty close but ima go with very nearly instead of yess.
[13:34:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, proper punk often gets mixed in with the horns from ska now even.
[13:34:20] <crutchy> dubstep goes with everything nowadays
[13:34:24] <crutchy> punkstep
[13:34:28] <Konomi> dubstep isn't even a genre yet
[13:34:38] <crutchy> its taking over everything
[13:34:40] <Konomi> though it would be a sub genre of electronica anyway
[13:34:58] <Konomi> my favourite genre might I add \o/
[13:35:03] <Konomi> but I have a lot of rock pop metal etc
[13:35:05] <crutchy> its what happens when you're whacked out on ice or whatever the latest brainsmasher is
[13:35:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's proper punk: https://www.youtube.com
[13:35:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03NOFX - Always Hate Hippies - YouTube
[13:35:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> and even they use a few horns now n then
[13:35:30] <chromas> nofx++
[13:35:30] <Bender> karma - nofx: 1
[13:35:35] <chromas> I thought that was 3
[13:36:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> greenday can suck it though. my baby nephew is more punk than their pussy asses.
[13:36:13] <Konomi> 50 seconds ;_;
[13:36:19] <Konomi> hmm
[13:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nofx++
[13:36:24] <Bender> karma - nofx: 2
[13:36:27] <Konomi> nirvana definitly close to punk
[13:36:40] <chromas> punk songs are supposed to be short
[13:36:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> close but they kinda started their own thing in grunge
[13:36:45] * Konomi nods
[13:36:57] <crutchy> what's that group with the dude that plays the big string bass by standing on it?
[13:37:03] <Konomi> punk sounds more like metal judging by these guys
[13:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's a good yardstick: https://www.youtube.com
[13:38:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03When the Shit hits the fan (album)- The Circle Jerks - YouTube
[13:38:21] <crutchy> the living end
[13:38:58] <Konomi> is there a defining band of punk
[13:39:03] <Konomi> aka if someone asked punk
[13:39:06] <Konomi> this is "punk"
[13:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> then ya got hardcore punk like Black Flag https://www.youtube.com
[13:39:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Black Flag - Rise Above - YouTube
[13:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, sex pistols probably
[13:40:28] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[13:40:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Living End - Prisoner Of Society - YouTube
[13:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> black flag are THE archtypical hardcore punk band though
[13:41:09] <Konomi> hmm okay
[13:41:24] <Konomi> will help me catagorising genres to have stable examples
[13:41:39] <chromas> genres--
[13:41:39] <Konomi> sorted data is very very nice
[13:41:39] <Bender> karma - genres: -1
[13:41:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> hardcore punk is still punk but it's energetic and violent enough to warrant the extra word in the name.
[13:43:19] <Konomi> thehe moment in a comic when you identify with the character
[13:43:35] <Konomi> girl in this comic is in her own head type I am really bad for that too
[13:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> smart folks generally are
[13:44:10] <Konomi> did you just indirectly call me smart ;p
[13:44:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're here, should go without needing said.
[13:44:43] <Konomi> >.<
[13:44:54] <Konomi> I could think of a few examples that might cave that theory ;p
[13:45:02] <ar> https://www.youtube.com
[13:45:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03Crucifix - Annihilation - - YouTube
[13:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean even crutchy can code and we all think of him as the idiot little brother
[13:45:10] <Konomi> >.<
[13:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, pwn
[13:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, even e-f knows his ass from a hole in the ground
[13:46:48] * Konomi pfts
[13:46:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> when he can be bothered to say something besides racial slurs
[13:47:01] * Konomi nods
[13:47:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> smart is no protection from being a jackass
[13:47:35] <Konomi> sadly true
[13:47:39] <Konomi> does make it rarer fortunatly
[13:48:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got a theory
[13:48:48] <Konomi> ot ol
[13:48:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> it could be bunnies
[13:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, wait...
[13:49:08] <Konomi> my inner bias is willing to go with bunnies
[13:49:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> jackassery is easier to forgive if you're also intelligent
[13:49:53] <crutchy> hehe found it eventually
[13:49:54] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[13:49:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03Closing In - The Living End (Lyrics in the Description) - YouTube
[13:50:10] <crutchy> noice guitar skillz
[13:51:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> be a minute, got Ramones up right now
[13:52:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com and https://www.youtube.com for probably the two most definitive punk songs from the two most definitive bands
[13:52:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop (With Lyrics) - YouTube
[13:52:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK (Official Video) - YouTube
[13:54:33] <crutchy> wholly carp
[13:54:40] <crutchy> tmb, you think i can code!?
[13:54:43] <crutchy> :D
[13:55:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you'd learn perl you could handle slash well enough.
[13:55:04] <crutchy> aww shucks /me blushes
[13:55:32] <crutchy> i'm ok with idiot little bro tag :p
[13:55:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> regularly breaking your bot is not an indication of lack of coding ability, more an indication of probable ADHD
[13:57:04] * chromas agrees and jingles keys for crutchy :)
[13:57:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, don't feel like fishin today and my favorite spot is bout tapped out for the winter. either need to get the boat squared away or pick a new spot.
[13:58:00] <crutchy> i dunno much about adhd, but it kinda implies i have energy to go spacko, which doesn't sound like me
[13:58:40] <crutchy> wouldn't be surprised if it turned out i got something wrong upstairs though
[13:59:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> presents differently in adults. manic periods of intense focus or ambivalence and lack of concentration.
[13:59:23] <crutchy> oh well that's me down to a tee :D
[13:59:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's everyone smart i've ever met though.
[14:00:17] <crutchy> yeah i think i missed out on that part
[14:00:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think that particular diagnosis is the mediocre losers trying to say there's something wrong with us.
[14:01:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i'm gonna stop taking amphetamines just cause i disagree with the diagnosis. i dig the hell out of em.
[14:02:10] <crutchy> drugs don't interest me. i had some oxycontin once and it felt awesome, but feeling awesome means ignoring reality
[14:02:55] <crutchy> shit
[14:02:59] <crutchy> ~time
[14:03:01] <exec> Monday, 8 December 2014 @ 1:03 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[14:03:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> stimulants are another story entirely. no reality diversion.
[14:03:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, nite crutchy
[14:03:19] <crutchy> cyas
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[18:05:50] <San-Diego-Super-Chargers> What is that IDE that shows a "zoomed out preview" of the code on the right side?
[18:06:23] <San-Diego-Super-Chargers> Or what are some IDEs that have that feature?
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[18:28:16] <Landon> San-Diego-Super-Chargers: sublime tex tdoes that
[18:28:30] <Landon> jetbrains ides will show a snippet of code when you hover on the scroll bar
[18:28:35] <Landon> those are the closest I can think of
[19:10:44] <SirFinkus> atom has a plugin that will do that too
[19:40:04] <San-Diego-Super-Chargers> Thanks fellas.
[19:40:09] <San-Diego-Super-Chargers> Forgot I was still on here.
[19:42:12] <SirFinkus> atom is kind of shitty though, I'd recommend sublime text over it
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[20:37:37] <cow> MOOOO!!!!
[20:38:35] <cow> does SN have a policy for retaining or purging web traffic?
[20:40:45] <cow> is https traffic getting saved at all? or is it being discarded, as it would be by default?
[20:47:40] <crutchy> ~moo
[20:47:40] <exec> (__)
[20:47:40] <exec> (oo)
[20:47:40] <exec> /------\/
[20:47:40] <exec> / | ||
[20:47:41] <exec> * /\---/\
[20:47:41] <exec> ~~ ~~
[20:47:41] <exec> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[20:48:25] <crutchy> i think it gets piped directly to the NSA
[20:50:03] <crutchy> ~cowsay i'm sick of being the only cow around here
[20:50:04] <exec> _______________________________________
[20:50:04] <exec> / i'm sick of being the only cow around \
[20:50:04] <exec> \ here /
[20:50:04] <exec> ---------------------------------------
[20:50:04] <exec> \ ^__^
[20:50:05] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[20:50:06] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[20:50:06] <exec> ||----w |
[20:50:07] <exec> || ||
[20:50:38] <crutchy> ~cowsay finally someone i can talk toooo
[20:50:38] <exec> __________________________________
[20:50:39] <exec> < finally someone i can talk toooo >
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[20:50:39] <exec> \ ^__^
[20:50:39] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[20:50:39] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[20:50:39] <exec> ||----w |
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[20:50:44] <crutchy> :D
[20:52:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> silly cow
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[20:52:54] <crutchy> i still think the ~moo cow looks more like a goat or summin
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[20:53:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't save diddly, traffic-wise. don't even keep an apache access log running unless we need to look for something diagnostic-wise
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[20:53:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, okay
[20:53:55] <crutchy> ++coffee
[20:53:55] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 188
[20:53:58] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:53:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[20:54:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ #indeed
[20:54:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[20:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ewww, it's monday and gotta go to work soon day for you
[20:56:39] <crutchy> yeah pretty much
[20:57:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ #cause work sucks
[20:57:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 891
[20:57:15] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:57:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[20:57:16] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:57:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[20:57:17] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:57:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[20:57:23] <crutchy> its cold and miserable outside and i gotta walk to work and i just wanna curl up in my jarmies waa waa :p
[20:57:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, remember what we said about one, two, and three?
[20:57:30] <JamesNZ> Jarmies?
[20:57:47] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Oh, yeah, sorry.
[20:57:47] <crutchy> oh dude you're pretty much from the same country as me
[20:58:04] * JamesNZ whacks crutchy
[20:58:17] <crutchy> is bro town still on. that was a fkin awesome show
[20:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> same country like sheeps is the same as roos
[20:58:36] <JamesNZ> No idea, I never watched it.
[20:58:48] <crutchy> its like a nz version of south park
[20:58:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, nifty
[20:58:57] <crutchy> not quite as disgusting though
[20:59:02] <JamesNZ> Yeah.... looked pretty crappy.
[20:59:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, ima go back to readin my book. just stopped in to answer the cow who left before i could
[21:00:08] <crutchy> i filled him in :D
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[22:55:48] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:55:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[22:55:48] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:55:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
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[23:47:18] <San-Diego-Super-Chargers> Hopefully they can pull off an upset against the "we win too much" Patridiots
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