#Soylent | Logs for 2014-10-31

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[00:00:10] <chromas> bots++ # for SpallsHurgenson
[00:00:10] <Bender> karma - bots: 4
[00:00:52] * SpallsHurgenson has nothing against bots, they keep my feet warm in winter
[00:01:38] <chromas> an untrained dog will also do that
[00:01:39] <SpallsHurgenson> that was funnier in my head than when I said it
[00:02:15] <chromas> sure it was
[00:03:15] <SpallsHurgenson> heheh, I like this idea http://arstechnica.com :)
[00:04:11] <SpallsHurgenson> โ„•๐• ๐•จ ๐•€ ๐•”๐•’๐•Ÿ ๐•ค๐•ก๐•–๐•’๐•œ ๐•š๐•Ÿ ๐•ฆ๐•Ÿ๐•š๐•”๐• ๐••๐•–!
[00:05:45] <chromas> doesn't look the same as on that sit
[00:05:46] <chromas> site
[00:05:50] <chromas> maybe it's my font
[00:05:58] <chromas> unicode++
[00:05:58] <Bender> karma - unicode: 2
[00:06:08] <chromas> utf-64
[00:06:10] <chromas> utf-64++
[00:07:06] <SpallsHurgenson> ๐–‰๐–” ๐–ž๐–”๐–š ๐–•๐–—๐–Š๐–‹๐–Š๐–— ๐–™๐–๐–Ž๐–˜ ๐–‹๐–”๐–“๐–™?
[00:07:53] <SpallsHurgenson> โ’พ โ“’โ“žโ“คโ“›โ““ โ““โ“ž โ“ฃโ“—โ“˜โ“ข โ“โ“›โ“› โ“โ“˜โ“–โ“—โ“ฃ! :)
[00:07:57] <SpallsHurgenson> (but I won't :)
[00:08:08] <chromas> You could
[00:08:18] <chromas> Set up a client script to auto-translate for you
[00:08:20] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, but I won't :)
[00:09:31] * SpallsHurgenson eyes the banhammer hovering overhead like a, erm, Hammer of Damocles and strives to be less annoying :)
[00:10:01] <chromas> kcharselect-- # for not showing most of the symbols in the Private Use Area
[00:10:01] <Bender> karma - kcharselect: -1
[00:10:33] <SpallsHurgenson> Private_Use_Area++ #cause it sounds naughty
[00:10:33] <Bender> karma - private_use_area: 1
[00:11:24] <chromas> aฬฬ‚ฬ‹ฬ–ฬ—ฬ™ฬšฬ‘อŠอ‹อŒออœออกอ อŸอžอขอฆอฎฬ›ฬคฬ‹ฬŠฬ…ฬ†ฬฬˆอš
[00:11:29] <chromas> mess++
[00:11:29] <Bender> karma - mess: 1
[00:11:45] Blackmoore is now known as blackmoore|afk
[00:28:33] <Alberto> SO
[00:28:48] <Alberto> What's new? :D
[00:29:40] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I'm wearing pants tonight
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[00:31:56] <chromas> it's a sad, sad day
[00:41:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Race to 5G is On - http://sylnt.us - watch-those-data-caps
[00:43:29] <chromas> 5G? We had 4G, then it wasn't 4G, then we had 4G LTE; someone keeps moving the goalposts
[00:43:46] <chromas> Bieber 6G Fever
[00:44:29] <SpallsHurgenson> Fuck this, we're going 7G!
[00:44:54] <chromas> moar blades!
[00:46:22] <SpallsHurgenson> Darn tootin'! 300GB/S bandwidth*
[00:46:32] <SpallsHurgenson> *1GB Cap
[00:54:40] <paulej72> damn am i tired. very busy day at work.
[00:55:37] <paulej72> was at my desk for only a few minutes today. did not get a chance to irc
[00:57:46] <SpallsHurgenson> so there was a silver lining after all!
[00:58:16] <paulej72> only if i missed poutien
[01:09:02] <SpallsHurgenson> he don't come 'round here no mo'
[01:17:48] <Landon> youch, jekyll wants me to install nodejs
[01:17:49] <Landon> !lod
[01:17:49] <Bender> เฒ _เฒ 
[01:18:01] <Landon> for an optional part of the program
[01:18:02] <Landon> oh well
[01:18:08] <Landon> install all the things
[01:20:42] * Alberto updating 47 servers
[01:20:50] <Alberto> damn wget bug
[01:22:51] <Alberto> เฒ _เฒ 
[01:26:36] <SpallsHurgenson> ๐• _๐Ÿ˜
[01:27:00] <geotti> npm-- #for omitting verbosity
[01:27:00] <Bender> karma - npm: -1
[01:27:01] <SpallsHurgenson> เน_เน
[01:27:04] <geotti> systemd--
[01:27:04] <Bender> karma - systemd: -21
[01:32:35] <geotti> ghost--
[01:32:35] <Bender> karma - ghost: -3
[01:33:25] <geotti> "Use the following command to download the latest release of Ghost: curl -L [...]" then "After you successfully extracted Ghost open a terminal, if you havenโ€™t already[...]" wut?
[01:34:31] <geotti> incompetent_dilettantes--
[01:34:31] <Bender> karma - incompetent_dilettantes: -1
[01:41:32] <geotti> great, node_sqlite3 depends on GLIBC_2.14, which is unavailable on wheezy. Solution: get libc from sid... *facepalm*
[01:41:42] <geotti> incompetent_dilettantes--
[01:41:42] <Bender> karma - incompetent_dilettantes: -2
[01:42:17] <geotti> let's just install libc from unstable, nevermind that everything else depends on it too
[01:43:24] <Landon> hah
[01:43:28] <Landon> upgrading libc gives me nightmares
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[01:49:25] <geotti> let's see if I can break production harr harr
[01:49:38] * geotti checks the backups... check.
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[02:05:39] <geotti> it worked.
[02:05:41] <geotti> debian++
[02:05:41] <Bender> karma - debian: 36
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[02:20:03] <geotti> supervisord++
[02:20:03] <Bender> karma - supervisord: 1
[02:31:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Brazil is Keeping its Promise to Avoid the U.S. Internet - http://sylnt.us - take-my-ball-and-go-home
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[03:05:07] <Alberto> geotti ghost is crap
[03:05:42] <Alberto> empty and retarded as O'nolan promises
[03:06:01] <Alberto> the raised money for that shit and i donated over 500 usd just to not get my nice and sexy dashboard
[03:06:06] <Alberto> after that they launcher premium
[03:06:08] <Alberto> fucking bastards
[03:33:56] <geotti> you donated *how much* ???
[03:34:02] <geotti> for a fucking sccript?
[03:35:10] <geotti> i don't care about the dashboard, I just want the two dumbos to be able to modify their "just a blog"
[03:35:33] <geotti> buster seems to work great, by the way : )
[03:35:46] <geotti> https://github.com
[03:35:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03axitkhurana/buster ยท GitHub
[03:36:17] <geotti> buster setup && buster generate
[03:36:29] <geotti> makes a static version, that's all I ever wanted
[03:37:10] <geotti> and they can access the admin interface, which will listen only to VPN IPs and hit generate to create the actual version that people see
[03:37:17] <geotti> great : )
[03:38:28] <geotti> anyway, enough stupidwork for today, maybe I'll be able to start working on some core functionality tomorrow, finally.. They wanna sell flight tickets
[03:39:39] <geotti> Alberto: but yeah, it is very basic, if you actually want to use it for something more than just blogging
[03:39:58] <geotti> s/blogging/basic blogging/
[03:39:58] <SedBot2> <geotti> Alberto: but yeah, it is very basic, if you actually want to use it for something more than just basic blogging
[03:40:22] <geotti> anyway, enough for today
[03:40:24] <geotti> tea++
[03:40:24] <Bender> karma - tea: 159
[03:40:30] <geotti> sleep++
[03:40:30] <Bender> karma - sleep: 9
[03:40:41] geotti is now known as geotti_Zzz
[03:42:04] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:42:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 882
[03:42:10] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:42:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
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[04:30:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dronecode - A Common Codebase for Drones - http://sylnt.us - One-Code-to-rule-them-all
[04:31:20] <chromas> drones.js
[05:06:51] <JamesNZ> dronectl start bomb.service
[05:07:39] <JamesNZ> I can just imagine the comments if the OS uses systemd :D
[05:13:16] * juggs runs around with arms aloft, shrieking
[05:16:46] <Konomi> dirty hackers again?
[05:16:48] * JamesNZ fires a missile in juggs's path
[05:17:27] * juggs deftly hurdles the missiles without breaking stride or shriek!
[05:17:56] <JamesNZ> Impressive :o
[05:17:57] <juggs> Konomi, no - just felt like venting, been indoors too long I think.
[05:18:20] <Konomi> gonna hack your pc and turn it into a bomb ;p
[05:23:47] <juggs> You know what scares me Konomi, I think you probably could. I'm gonna have to pull the battery outta this laptop so you can't remotely turn into a lithium hellfire! :D
[05:25:03] * juggs erects 7 firewalls with identical configs and 7 proxies behind that just to be sure.... ~now~ I am IMMUNE!
[05:25:25] <juggs> hmm... I may need to re-think this strategy
[05:31:59] <Konomi> ;p
[05:32:32] <Konomi> you can write code that tells a hard disk to write to the same sector over nad over say the mbr ;p
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[05:49:41] <ar> moin
[05:52:26] <juggs> Konomi, could you write something that does that without privilege elevation? And technically that would not make it a bomb... perhaps if you could make it spin ever faster until the platters disintegrate through lateral G loading sending shards of platters in all directions at massive velocity it could be worrisome I suppose, but I think it would mostly be contained by the drive case and laptop case. So not really a bomb at all, just a trashed dri
[05:52:26] <juggs> ve ~shrug~.
[05:52:42] <juggs> ma gawd I'm verbose!
[05:54:24] <ar> juggs: hdd controller won't let it spin that fast, sadly
[05:55:06] <JamesNZ> ~gday ar
[05:55:07] * exec insatiably offers a cold can of g'day juice to ar
[05:56:31] <ar> and coffee--
[05:56:33] <ar> tea++
[05:56:33] <Bender> karma - tea: 160
[05:56:55] * ar offers Konomi a warm cup of sencha
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[05:57:39] <Konomi> it's 38 c got anything cold xD
[05:57:59] <juggs> ar, over volt it?
[05:58:00] <JamesNZ> Water :)
[05:58:40] <Konomi> cold like EF's heart please
[05:58:42] <ar> Konomi: just water. i can get some cherry coke
[05:58:43] * Konomi hides
[05:59:07] <ar> but that would require me standing up and walking 15 meters
[05:59:17] * juggs hands Konomi my personality - that's pretty icy... so people tell me. I don;t know what they mean.
[06:02:50] <Konomi> stop thinking that's cold!
[06:05:15] <ar> hehe
[06:05:23] <ar> Okay, here's the cola
[06:09:21] <ar> Konomi: ^
[06:09:52] <Konomi> cherry coke is pretty okay
[06:12:11] <ar> (note that the cherry coke that is sold here is different from what's sold in the uk and potentially different from what you can get in japan)
[06:12:35] <ar> (the UK thing is awfulโ€ฆ)
[06:14:59] <Konomi> I don't know what the AU one is like compared to other countries
[06:15:03] <juggs> most UK things are awful. We still seem to be stuck in some race to the bottom of quality contest.
[06:20:30] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:20:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:20:33] <Konomi> I call this evolving my mess
[06:27:33] <Konomi> be ages before I package it
[06:28:43] <ar> Konomi: the way you call cpu_set with what looks like a single argument can lead to confusion
[06:28:57] <Konomi> it's bash
[06:29:03] <Konomi> I presume it leads most people to confusion
[06:29:07] <ar> i know. but you can make it cleaner
[06:29:09] <Konomi> and I can't be bothered arraying it ;p
[06:29:18] <Konomi> it'll probably be replaced later anyway
[06:29:29] <Konomi> I'm thinking of a dynamic scale that detects it
[06:29:54] <juggs> This hurts my noodle.... "$(grep '^ *1:' /proc/interrupts \
[06:29:54] <juggs> | grep -o -E '[0-9]+' | tr '\n' '+')" we really should have a programming language that uses sanskrit or ancient runes or heiroglyphs - I swear they would be more readable :D
[06:30:27] <Konomi> what's hard to get about that?
[06:30:49] <ar> Konomi: http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:30:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:31:30] <juggs> me being clueless fecker that doesn't use grep or awk et al much I guess :D
[06:31:33] <Konomi> you realise all you did was make those variables an array right?
[06:31:40] <ar> yes
[06:31:52] <ar> and made it call it like an array
[06:32:15] <Konomi> yes I know
[06:32:36] <Konomi> though you probably should change the function itse;f if you want to be that pedantic
[06:32:50] <Konomi> since $1 etc are not arrays values
[06:32:59] <Konomi> it's just still passing a string to them ;p
[06:33:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:33:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 882
[06:33:26] <ar> tea++
[06:33:26] <Bender> karma - tea: 161
[06:33:32] <ar> coffee--
[06:33:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
[06:33:32] <Konomi> I think it'd be ${@[1]} if it's possible never tried it before
[06:34:09] <ar> $1 etc is just a short for ${@[1]}
[06:34:20] <Konomi> $1 would seprate by spaces
[06:34:23] <Konomi> not by array values
[06:34:26] <Konomi> so no not really
[06:34:35] <Konomi> spaces can be in arrays
[06:34:42] <Konomi> only reason to use them over a string
[06:34:50] <ar> $1 can contain spaces
[06:34:53] <ar> want a proof?
[06:35:06] <Konomi> if you escape them maybe...
[06:35:43] <ar> ar@jorogumo:~$ spaceproof() { echo "${1}"; }
[06:35:43] <ar> ar@jorogumo:~$ spaceproof 'hi there. i have empty spaces inside! ;)'
[06:35:43] <ar> hi there. i have empty spaces inside! ;)
[06:35:44] <ciri> hey whats up ar
[06:35:46] <Konomi> but you could do that in a string as well so why bother
[06:36:41] <crutchy> ooh a nerdgument
[06:36:43] <ar> cleaner and more consistent code
[06:36:46] <juggs> Konomi, couldn't you have used some back ticks in there to confuse those that use where ` looks the same as ' ? Shell madness ftw!
[06:36:55] <ar> ARGH
[06:37:13] <crutchy> ar, are you battling konomi? about bash coding?
[06:37:14] <ar> i'll voilently kill the next person i see using backticks instead of $()
[06:37:20] <crutchy> you game dude
[06:37:22] <Konomi> lol
[06:37:34] <Konomi> have to second that only use `` if you're going for posix compat
[06:38:43] <Konomi> $ spaceproof() { echo "${1}"; } ; spaceproof 'ops guess I should've used an array'
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[06:38:47] <Konomi> > bash: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[06:38:49] <Konomi> bash: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[06:38:52] <Konomi> ;p
[06:39:02] <juggs> crutchy, was that at me? If so... hell no... I was just stirring the pot. :D
[06:39:15] <ar> Konomi: you're not escaping the ' you used in "should've
[06:39:20] <ar> s/$/"/
[06:39:20] <SedBot2> <ar> Konomi: you're not escaping the ' you used in "should've"
[06:39:30] <Konomi> can't expect sanitised input you have to handle that yourself
[06:39:51] <ar> it's not about sanitised input
[06:39:59] <ar> the function would handle it properly
[06:39:59] <crutchy> hey juggs. nah it was for ar
[06:40:05] <crutchy> how you been?
[06:40:16] <ar> the problem is with how you call it.
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[06:40:47] <crutchy> oh almost forgot
[06:41:01] <crutchy> WOOOHOOO! no work till wednesday
[06:41:19] <juggs> Fuck me I eyes are getting bad... I have to lean forward to determine ` from ' now... I think I need a 600 x 480 60" plasma... all this leaning back and forth is wearing me out.
[06:41:22] <crutchy> gambling++ # thank $deity for horse racing
[06:41:22] <Bender> karma - gambling: 1
[06:41:40] <Konomi> juggs: get glasses updated?
[06:45:21] <juggs> Konomi, you may be right - current goggles are 6+ years at least.... maybe suffering from eye failure to lens correction differential. Ageing sucks.
[06:48:29] <crutchy> juggs, think i'm in a similar boat
[06:48:29] <Konomi> ar: here is a better example of what I mean slipped my mind echo is going to help out in that case ;p
[06:48:32] <crutchy> ageing--
[06:48:32] <Bender> karma - ageing: -2
[06:48:57] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:48:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:49:22] <Konomi> forgot to encaes $run in quotes not that it would fix that issue
[06:49:45] <Konomi> so more technically I meant to say quote handling of spaces but bleh ;p
[06:50:16] <Konomi> $ run=(pgrep -d ' ' ^bash$); ${run}
[06:50:16] <Konomi> pgrep: no matching criteria specified
[06:50:17] <ar> Konomi: http://dpaste.com
[06:50:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03dpaste: 3P33WHR ( Location )
[06:50:22] <Konomi> nothing but an array will do
[06:50:36] <Konomi> yeah eof is another good way to get around it
[06:50:58] <Konomi> you don't need cat btw
[06:51:05] <Konomi> just do $(<<)
[06:51:53] <ar> nope, that doesn't work
[06:52:13] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:52:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:52:57] <ar> http://dpaste.com
[06:52:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03dpaste: 1TBRQ7P ( Location )
[06:52:58] <Konomi> hmm that is odd
[06:53:08] <ar> as i said, that doesn't work
[06:53:09] <ar> :>
[06:54:15] <Konomi> must be a limitation
[06:55:02] <ar> You like cookies?
[06:55:08] * ar gives Konomi a cookie
[06:56:42] * chromas 's vision quit getting worse when I quit getting my eyes checked
[06:56:52] <Konomi> hehe
[06:56:59] <crutchy> lets have an argument about pascal or php cos bash is *whoosh*
[06:57:11] <chromas> Ten or so years later I got 'em checked and the values were the same
[06:57:37] <ar> crutchy: bash is at least consistent in itself. you can't even say that much about php
[06:58:03] <chromas> But I've read they like to tweak the prescription a bit for extra refraction 'just to be sure' so that probably means the eyes adjust and will be different the next time
[06:58:04] <crutchy> php is very loose
[06:58:11] <chromas> loose++
[06:58:11] <Bender> karma - loose: 1
[06:58:18] <ar> php--
[06:58:18] <Bender> karma - php: 6
[06:58:22] <ar> ruby++
[06:58:22] <Bender> karma - ruby: 3
[06:58:24] <ar> bash++
[06:58:24] <Bender> karma - bash: 1
[06:58:25] <crutchy> kinda like perl in that way maybe
[06:58:31] <Konomi> bash can be a pita
[06:58:41] <Konomi> most of it being around math and the quotes issue
[06:58:53] <Konomi> there's no floats in bash
[06:59:01] <crutchy> i try to be pretty consistent with my php code
[06:59:04] <ar> you can avoid quotes issues if you quote everything
[06:59:13] <ar> and it looks nicer and consistent that way
[06:59:34] <ar> Konomi: btw, zsh has floats
[06:59:59] <ar> [2014-10-31 07:59:24|jorogumo|0|~]% echo $((22./7))
[06:59:59] <ar> 3.1428571428571428
[07:00:31] <crutchy> not quite pi
[07:00:36] <crutchy> pretty close
[07:00:41] <Konomi> I don't use zsh ;p
[07:00:48] <crutchy> engineers would consider that pi :p
[07:00:51] <chromas> python++ # it's pretty
[07:00:51] <Bender> karma - python: 3
[07:01:01] <ar> you should - it's the nicest interactive shell around
[07:01:32] <Konomi> echo 22./7 | bc -l
[07:01:35] <Konomi> gotta do this for bash pft
[07:01:55] <ar> crutchy: afair it's acurate up to fifth decimal point
[07:02:10] <ar> oh, no, it isn't
[07:02:18] <crutchy> pi is 3.14159 something
[07:02:24] <ar> yeah
[07:02:29] <crutchy> thats all i remember
[07:02:46] <ar> i don't even remember that much. only 3.14
[07:03:00] <Konomi> all I recall is apple pie
[07:03:01] <Konomi> ;p
[07:03:04] <crutchy> yumm
[07:03:47] * chromas licks pie to the tenth digit
[07:04:10] <Konomi> shame grab doesn't do /me
[07:04:43] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[07:04:43] <Bender> Added quote 260
[07:04:50] <Konomi> damn it
[07:04:51] <Konomi> ;p
[07:04:53] <chromas> Quick, Landon! Add it before I say something else!
[07:04:58] <Konomi> I didn't realise that until i read it back
[07:05:18] <crutchy> i'm perverted
[07:05:44] <Konomi> anyone interested in some terminal fonts I recently packaged for debian?
[07:06:08] <chromas> crutchy is
[07:06:16] <crutchy> i been looking for some nicer monospace fonts for terminal and gedit
[07:06:24] <crutchy> debian of course :D
[07:06:39] <crutchy> preferably ttf but meh
[07:06:45] <chromas> Great! You can test Konomi's package and make sure it feels right
[07:07:07] <crutchy> she prefers grab
[07:07:15] <Konomi> >.>
[07:07:19] * crutchy scowls at grab
[07:07:19] <Konomi> you two are so bad
[07:07:29] <chromas> Would've been better, since you have to grab the package to install it
[07:07:49] * chromas spanks self
[07:07:53] * NetCraft likes to watch
[07:08:06] * juggs is disturbed
[07:08:38] <crutchy> tama likes to watch NetCraft watching
[07:09:05] * NetCraft puts a watch in tama
[07:10:19] <crutchy> no github activity today :(
[07:10:28] <Konomi> http://boxedfox.org
[07:10:33] <crutchy> might have to spam it myself
[07:10:42] <crutchy> boxedfox@!?
[07:10:52] <Konomi> http://boxedfox.org
[07:11:05] <juggs> TMB wore himself out rowing his boat
[07:11:06] <Konomi> http://boxedfox.org
[07:11:09] <Konomi> 3 I recently made
[07:11:11] <ciri> 4
[07:11:12] <ciri> 5
[07:11:14] <ciri> 6
[07:11:16] <ciri> 7
[07:11:18] <ciri> 8
[07:11:20] <chromas> break
[07:11:20] <ciri> 9
[07:11:22] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:11:48] <Konomi> 99
[07:11:55] <Konomi> bot can't count above 10
[07:11:56] <Konomi> figures
[07:12:10] <chromas> ciri's a real boy now! He lost his wood and so did I
[07:12:12] <crutchy> need to make sure you don't put the dash in the wrong spot on that last deb
[07:12:14] <Konomi> packaged that is I didn't make the fonts "disclaimer"
[07:12:20] <crutchy> esp the first one ;d
[07:12:44] <Konomi> crutchy: ?
[07:12:58] <chromas> ~define sproggy
[07:13:00] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Sproggies: the suspicious white residue that appears on ones pants
[07:13:10] <chromas> Didn't think that would be real
[07:13:30] * chromas shows himself off to #
[07:13:31] <crutchy> if you don't wear pants you need not worry
[07:13:45] <Konomi> only you could possibly know such a definition
[07:14:03] <chromas> I can also prevent forest fires
[07:14:36] <ar> i hate saying it, but i really like "Consolas" font from windows
[07:14:40] <crutchy> can you put out this forest fire? http://www.youtube.com
[07:14:41] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Duck Song - YouTube
[07:14:47] <juggs> you upside-downers are all nuts... probably all change when the polarity flips
[07:14:48] <ar> droid sans mono slashed is also ok
[07:14:56] <chromas> oh yeah; probably regional. ~define Smokey the Bear
[07:20:33] <crutchy> scripty time methingks
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[07:25:09] <Konomi> only nutty people on this planet are the ones that think there is an up and down in the first place ;p
[07:25:54] <ar> there's up and down within gravitational sphere of influence of this planet
[07:26:15] <Konomi> that's towards and away from
[07:26:18] <Konomi> not upa nd down ;p
[07:26:44] <crutchy> the earth is flat
[07:26:50] <Konomi> you're flat crutchy ;p
[07:26:53] * Konomi hides
[07:27:03] <crutchy> in my einsteinian frame of reference
[07:27:28] <juggs> pedantastic! /me hugs Konomi then runs away arms aloft for fear of retribution
[07:27:41] * crutchy juts his cleavage to prove to Konomi that he's no flat
[07:28:26] * chromas grabs a telescope
[07:28:42] <Konomi> too confusing
[07:28:45] <Konomi> just going to set it all on fire
[07:28:53] * juggs fires the retros on the sat array
[07:28:54] <Konomi> worked for peeps burning witches
[07:29:08] <crutchy> it is halloween (apparently)
[07:29:18] <chromas> We knew they were witches because they died
[07:29:31] <crutchy> its the only way to be sure
[07:29:36] <chromas> They burned! Would a non-witch just burn like that?
[07:29:43] <juggs> chuck 'em in the pond
[07:29:49] <chromas> pear_tart++
[07:29:49] <Bender> karma - pear_tart: 2
[07:30:00] <crutchy> ~define pear tart
[07:30:12] <exec> pear tart: unable to find definition
[07:30:15] <crutchy> a chick that programs pear?
[07:30:38] <chromas> it's like a thin pie with pears on cream cheese custard
[07:30:51] <crutchy> ew
[07:30:54] <crutchy> pears--
[07:30:54] <Bender> karma - pears: -1
[07:30:57] <crutchy> custard--
[07:30:57] <Bender> karma - custard: -1
[07:30:57] <chromas> with apricot jelly/jam/preserves on top
[07:31:16] <chromas> yogurt-- # even the name is gross
[07:31:16] <Bender> karma - yogurt: -1
[07:31:30] <ar> tea++
[07:31:30] <Bender> karma - tea: 162
[07:31:33] <ar> coffee--
[07:31:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 880
[07:32:01] <crutchy> hurting_of_yogs--
[07:32:01] <Bender> karma - hurting_of_yogs: -1
[07:49:01] <ar> http://milek.blogspot.ca
[07:49:09] <ar> illumos++
[07:49:09] <Bender> karma - illumos: 1
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[07:53:30] <crutchy> duh!
[07:53:51] <crutchy> obama campaign contributors obviously :/
[07:54:42] <crutchy> statisticians are people that make up numbers in a vain attempt to convince people to pay them monies
[07:55:39] <chromas> vainโ€ฆiness pays off
[07:56:13] <Konomi> "stupid people"
[08:06:05] * crutchy needs tunes
[08:06:19] <crutchy> to get the c0dez flowin
[08:07:33] <crutchy> ooh
[08:07:44] * juggs pipes in Slayer to crutchy at +150dB
[08:07:49] <crutchy> 'hypersleep' from the alien soundtrack
[08:08:38] * crutchy goes for classic
[08:08:44] <crutchy> 'enter sandman'
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[08:13:51] <juggs> ooh - watch out for the woofer killer about a minute in
[08:14:22] <crutchy> that's my favorite bit :D
[08:14:51] <juggs> WUMP!
[08:18:00] <crutchy> its a pretty sweet riff
[08:18:01] <juggs> is it a minute in? I'm going from memory.... somewhere in the early part of the track anyway. Makes my bassy bits poke out and get excited lol. Feck knows what it does to anyone running at full tilt with no power reserve, probably clips I guess.
[08:18:24] <crutchy> depends on the cutoff frequency
[08:18:43] <crutchy> mine is set at about 30 Hz so not too much gets to the sub
[08:19:56] <juggs> Black album is not particularly bass heavy if I remember rightly... other than that WUMP of course! lol
[08:20:14] <Konomi> http://i5.minus.com
[08:20:16] <Konomi> warmmmmmm
[08:20:18] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[08:20:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 879
[08:20:23] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[08:20:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 878
[08:23:11] <juggs> k, when I start blithering about music it's a sure sign I need to sleep. Next thing I know I'll be buying magic levitating unicorn speaker supports and metre wide cables blessed by the dalai lama or something.
[08:26:04] * juggs runs round the room twice, arms aloft, backwards, chanting ancient mysticisms before collapsing in a heap and sleeping. It's halloween! Gotta keep the IRC safe with these ancient things ppl! :D
[08:26:23] * Konomi tranq' darts juggs
[08:29:16] <juggs> da hell Konomi? I was already collapsed and sleeping - and you tranq' me? ~shrug~ guess I'll sleep welll l llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll;'#'
[08:29:40] * Konomi fires another
[08:30:31] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[08:30:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03Ace Ventura 2 - The Dart Part - YouTube
[08:33:07] <crutchy> 'can i trouble you for a mint?'
[08:35:49] <Konomi> freaking mod points suck never got them when I want them
[08:44:40] <crutchy> juggs, gots me one of these for listening to wump :)
[08:44:41] <crutchy> http://www.sau.com.au
[08:45:14] <crutchy> mine's prolly just as dusty as that one too :/
[08:45:53] <crutchy> jensen spx-17
[09:03:35] <crutchy> glub
[09:03:36] <exec> glub
[09:11:18] <JamesNZ> ~gnight y'all
[09:11:19] * exec unjustifiably pours a pair of used panties full of bacon for y'all
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[09:16:05] <Konomi> okay then
[10:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:14:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 879
[10:15:18] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:15:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 880
[10:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[10:29:38] <crutchy> g'day tmb
[10:30:20] * crutchy is trying to remember the ins and outs of oop in delphi/fp
[10:30:33] <crutchy> virtual constructors and shit
[10:31:49] <chromas> crutchy++
[10:31:49] <chromas> crutchy++
[10:31:49] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 110
[10:31:49] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 111
[10:33:18] <crutchy> i think prolly nearly 10 years since i dun a polymorphic class
[10:33:32] <crutchy> damn
[10:33:35] * crutchy feels old now
[10:33:56] <crutchy> php has infected me with laziness
[10:36:14] <chromas> someone needs to make a php compiler
[10:36:16] <chromas> and python
[10:37:16] <crutchy> there's hhvm for that
[10:37:22] <crutchy> for php anyways
[10:37:27] <crutchy> not sure about python
[10:37:53] <crutchy> i think most of the big php sites like wikipedia and facebook use hhvm
[10:39:18] <chromas> I should be using one of those anyhow; they have nice irc-relevant data structures already set up
[10:39:35] <chromas> associative arrays and stuff
[10:39:55] <chromas> 'cause we need yet another python bot :)
[10:40:00] <crutchy> exec might run better on hhvm
[10:40:12] * crutchy should try install it
[10:40:20] <chromas> can you just 'drop it in'?
[10:40:29] <chromas> don't have to change teh c odez?
[10:40:34] <crutchy> dunno. i think so
[10:46:06] <crutchy> seems like the only difference would be that instead of starting exec with 'php irc.php' i would start it with 'hhvm irc.php'
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[10:53:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are several python compilers
[10:55:44] <chromas> real ones? or bytecode?
[10:55:56] * chromas enqueues investigation
[10:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me, i just see the stories
[10:56:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't use python on account of whitespace mattering
[10:56:49] <chromas> something you do anyway
[10:57:03] <chromas> but yeah, whitespace shouldn't matter and shouldn't be used for indenting
[10:58:21] <crutchy> tmb; same here
[10:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like bits of punctuation for clotures. you aren't obliged to make a bit of code that could fit in a line of 40 characters take up several lines because it's technically a loop.
[10:58:40] <crutchy> whitespace is gold... you should be free to spend it how you like
[10:59:05] <chromas> aha! python causes inflation!
[10:59:05] * crutchy is installing hhvm
[10:59:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[10:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly gingivitis too
[10:59:41] <crutchy> tmb, there's vegemite for that
[10:59:51] * chromas wonders if there's gingiviasis
[11:00:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> not in the US. we eat sane things like peanut butter.
[11:00:36] <chromas> I only just learned what a hazelnut was a couple years ago
[11:00:49] <chromas> Seen a plenty; didn't know that's what they were
[11:02:12] <crutchy> they're a brown spread that comes in a jar :p
[11:02:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> only worth a damn if combined with chocolate
[11:03:20] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: it comes that way now
[11:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, nutella
[11:03:41] <chromas> that's not peanut butter though
[11:04:12] <crutchy> ~q
[11:04:18] <crutchy> here goes nuthin
[11:04:29] <crutchy> pfft
[11:04:35] <crutchy> 404 bot not found :/
[11:04:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i was talkin bout hazlenuts
[11:04:41] <chromas> if you put a food into bing it gives you nutrition facts
[11:04:49] <chromas> oh I see
[11:04:54] <chromas> thought you meant the peanut butter
[11:05:08] * chromas picks up the Dunce hat
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[11:05:54] <crutchy> woohoo
[11:06:03] <crutchy> now running on hhvm
[11:06:18] <crutchy> comes up with a fuckload of timezone strict warnings :/
[11:08:17] <crutchy> geez. gunna have to make a couple of tweaks
[11:08:45] <Alberto> crutchy why hhvm?
[11:08:58] <crutchy> supposed to be faster
[11:09:21] <crutchy> right now its bogged down in strict warnings though :/
[11:09:24] <Alberto> did you bech it? :D
[11:09:32] <Alberto> bench*
[11:09:40] <Alberto> benchmark
[11:09:42] <Alberto> damn keyboard
[11:09:45] <Alberto> is a old ps2
[11:09:46] <Alberto> XD
[11:09:49] <Alberto> ps/2
[11:10:02] <crutchy> nah. if its good enough for wikipedia its good enough for me
[11:10:28] * chromas donates to execepedia
[11:11:21] <Alberto> wikipedia its using it?
[11:11:33] <crutchy> apparently yeah
[11:11:36] <crutchy> so is facebook
[11:11:39] <crutchy> ~restart
[11:11:48] <crutchy> hopefully warnings will go away now
[11:11:48] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (16.4 kb)
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[11:12:04] <crutchy> yay!
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[11:13:25] <Alberto> crutchy so their bot's crash like yours?
[11:13:26] <Alberto> :D
[11:13:42] <crutchy> bot didn't crash
[11:13:49] <crutchy> it just restarted
[11:13:51] <crutchy> :)
[11:14:00] <Alberto> oh
[11:14:05] <Alberto> no rehash function? :P
[11:14:17] <crutchy> ~rehash
[11:14:18] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (97 aliases)
[11:14:25] <crutchy> only reloads exec file
[11:14:46] <Alberto> hum
[11:15:04] <crutchy> not sure how to restart the bot script without dropping connection :/
[11:15:07] <Alberto> i just think on a way for a real rehash
[11:15:35] <Alberto> let's talk on #
[11:25:18] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[11:25:44] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-09-02 08:16:21] I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[11:25:52] <crutchy> ~rehash
[11:25:53] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (97 aliases)
[11:25:59] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[11:26:15] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-09-02 08:16:21] I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[11:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty sure he's just gone now
[11:28:43] <crutchy> fuck
[11:28:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:28:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
[11:29:00] <crutchy> my laptop just took a dump after that rehash
[11:29:16] <crutchy> and i'm getting a bunch of script timeouts :/
[11:29:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:29:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 882
[11:29:28] <ar> ooh
[11:29:37] <ar> slashdot started reposting after soylentnews :)
[11:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm?
[11:29:53] <Alberto> whats reposting?
[11:30:25] <ar> http://news.slashdot.org - October 31, 2014 @05:25AM
[11:30:26] <Alberto> You mean the obama care?
[11:30:30] <Alberto> yeah
[11:30:32] <Alberto> i saw that
[11:30:38] <ar> http://soylentnews.org - October 31, @03:47AM
[11:30:39] <NetCraft> ^ 04SN article 03 Statisticians Study Whom Obamacare Helped the Most 04(8 comments)
[11:31:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> hugh pickins posts most of his stuff to both
[11:31:10] <Alberto> who's HughPickens?
[11:31:23] <Alberto> great
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[11:35:56] <chromas> hvm killed is lap!
[11:36:28] <ar> hm
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[11:49:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:49:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[11:59:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> need. moar. coffee!
[11:59:47] <crutchy> it used to be at 1000
[12:00:02] <crutchy> it should be at 400TB!
[12:01:00] <crutchy> hows the coffee moderation bot hummin?
[12:01:33] <crutchy> noisily? or has it been all quiet on the western front?
[12:05:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hasn't had to do any work that i seen yet
[12:05:39] <chromas> it could also occasionally TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:06:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, scripting karma changes is bad
[12:06:58] <chromas> it's for The Greater Goodยฎโ„ข&ยฉ
[12:08:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> such is the mating cry of the greater north american tyrant
[12:08:34] <crutchy> chromas, s/$/ The Pentagon Inc/
[12:08:34] <SedBot2> <crutchy> <chromas> it's for The Greater Goodยฎโ„ข&ยฉ The Pentagon Inc
[12:08:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i was around back in efnet and undernet days. i know how wrong scripting can go.
[12:09:28] <crutchy> that's why i still manually join exec into #soylent
[12:09:41] <crutchy> just in case it brainfarts on startup
[12:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should be workin on filters but i really need the test filter work i done already merged first so i can use it other places without makin for funky merges.
[12:12:47] <crutchy> pj been pretty quiet lately
[12:13:07] <crutchy> actually most staff have been pretty quiet
[12:13:16] <crutchy> maybe i'm just not around when they are
[12:14:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's been pretty dead lately
[12:14:21] <crutchy> did nc get hit by an anvil or something?
[12:14:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, he's off on the road on a leave of absence.
[12:14:46] <crutchy> wile e commander
[12:14:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> super genius
[12:15:59] <crutchy> has mrcoolbp managed to avoid going insane?
[12:17:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really but we've got him surrounded by nice soft things
[12:17:46] <crutchy> ah. better to be safe
[12:18:18] <crutchy> did they have their meeting on the 28th?
[12:18:35] <crutchy> or 29th or whenever
[12:18:48] <crutchy> per channel topic
[12:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, got canceled on account of only mrcoolbp made it
[12:19:45] <crutchy> oh well
[12:20:03] <crutchy> everything seem to be going swimmingly i guess
[12:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, no major fires. bit slow on dev but that happens sometimes.
[12:27:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> now, do I wanna reboot and play final fantasy 13 or middle earth: shadow of mordor?
[12:28:35] <crutchy> ddunno. ima gunna do some more scriptery
[12:29:15] <chromas> Middle earth
[12:29:28] <chromas> Ff13--
[12:29:28] <Bender> karma - ff13: -1
[12:30:17] <crutchy> i'm on 15.0a2
[12:30:28] <crutchy> 2012 vintage
[12:30:42] * crutchy should update
[12:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> whas wrong with FF13?
[12:31:40] <chromas> Isn't that the one where you build 'paradigms' and the music sucks?
[12:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, ain't played it yet
[12:32:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds right though
[12:32:16] <chromas> Oh. Maybe I'm thinking of 14 or something
[12:32:25] <crutchy> lmao
[12:32:26] <chromas> Well I didn't play the whole thing
[12:32:30] <crutchy> i thought ff was firefox
[12:32:56] <crutchy> final fantasy is all about cgi bewbs, no?
[12:33:08] <chromas> Just the recent ones
[12:33:18] <chromas> 10
[12:33:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> and choppin baddies with huge swords that may or may not have gun bits involved.
[12:33:24] * crutchy might look for ff the movie
[12:34:01] <chromas> Actually, many of the girls are as flat as crutchy has been accused of being
[12:34:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thas japanese folks for ya. small bewbs.
[12:34:50] <crutchy> wow. i went from firefox 15.0a2 to 35.0a2
[12:35:07] * crutchy feels all kitch now
[12:35:28] <chromas> palemoon++
[12:35:28] <Bender> karma - palemoon: 0
[12:35:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> palemoon++
[12:35:33] <Bender> karma - palemoon: 1
[12:35:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> and while we're at it...
[12:35:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> archlinux++
[12:35:50] <Bender> karma - archlinux: 62
[12:36:05] * crutchy googles palemoon
[12:36:10] <chromas> Deepdark_theme++ for ff/pm and Thunderbird
[12:36:10] <Bender> karma - deepdark_theme: 1
[12:37:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm. need to slap another drive on this thing. running low on space
[12:37:34] <chromas> Are all the recent ffs on pc now?
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[12:37:41] <geotti> tea++
[12:37:41] <Bender> karma - tea: 163
[12:37:45] <geotti> sencha++
[12:37:45] <Bender> karma - sencha: 10
[12:37:51] <chromas> I only played it on ps
[12:38:19] <crutchy> wholly carp
[12:38:21] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:38:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03Final Fantasy XIII - The Movie - Marathon Edition (All Cutscenes & Cinematics) - HD - YouTube
[12:38:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, i'm out of sata cables
[12:39:02] * chromas has a few; attempts to dcc a couple
[12:39:37] <geotti> clowns++
[12:39:37] <Bender> karma - clowns: 1
[12:40:02] <chromas> Nuh uh
[12:40:11] <geotti> pennywise++
[12:40:11] <Bender> karma - pennywise: 1
[12:40:49] <geotti> http://www.theguardian.com
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[12:42:49] <chromas> Ovals-- # for being creepy
[12:42:49] <Bender> karma - ovals: -1
[12:53:55] <FakeBeldin> just to toss this out there: suggestion for an additional option to view comments
[12:54:07] <FakeBeldin> I'd love the option to view all comments that were modded up
[12:54:16] <FakeBeldin> irrespective of at what number they started
[12:54:47] <FakeBeldin> So for ACs, the breakthrough would be at +1, while for loggedin users it'd be at +2
[12:54:57] <FakeBeldin> and for loggedin users with loads of karma, it'd be at +3.
[12:55:35] <FakeBeldin> or something similar which allows me to browse at +2 but show any lower-rated comments which were modded up.
[12:55:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can do something similar by tweaking downmods to +0
[12:56:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and ac to -1
[12:56:32] <crutchy> there's a few user prefs for things like thatr
[12:56:38] <crutchy> too complimicated for me
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[12:58:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> matter of fact you can do exactly what you want by assigning +2 to upmods, setting your threshold to +2, and setting downmods to +0
[12:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me while I power off to add a new drive.
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[13:16:17] <geotti_Zzz> geotti hijacked!
[13:16:45] geotti_Zzz is now known as TheMightyBuzzard
[13:16:56] * TheMightyBuzzard i'm selling tacos tonight
[13:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> who's in!
[13:17:10] TheMightyBuzzard is now known as TheMightyBot
[13:17:12] <TheMightyBot> Me me me!
[13:17:30] * Alberto is bored :/
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[13:21:16] <TheMightyBot> beep beep
[13:22:10] * TheMightyBuzzard does the Spock eyebrow thing at Alberto
[13:22:20] <Alberto> :D
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[13:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> freeing up a hundred gigs just moving game install disks off my storage drive
[13:25:24] <FakeBeldin> Buzzard: cool!
[13:25:39] <FakeBeldin> (was afk for a bit, catching up now)
[13:26:39] <FakeBeldin> will give this +2 for upmodded comments a shot, sounds really good
[13:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> not gonna bother loading bots up right now. they'd just go down again when i reboot to winders to check out some games.
[13:28:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> FakeBeldin, can get a little complicated with all the options but they're there to make the reading experience whatever you want it to be.
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[13:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, mattie_p
[13:39:41] <mattie_p> Good morning, TheMightyBuzzard
[13:41:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Journal Nature is Asking for Source Code - http://sylnt.us - peer-review
[13:41:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> it can have slashcode
[13:42:18] <mattie_p> lol
[13:42:57] <geotti> ooh, out of memory on digitalocean.. *adds swapfile* now it works
[13:43:22] <geotti> they wanna save their ssds, eh
[13:44:05] <geotti> chocolate++
[13:44:05] <Bender> karma - chocolate: 9
[13:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i can agree with that one. in fact, think i'll have halloween candy for breakfast.
[13:45:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> chocolate++
[13:45:08] <Bender> karma - chocolate: 10
[13:47:17] * geotti lives in an area without halloween candies
[13:47:27] <geotti> no annoying kids
[13:48:02] <geotti> TheMightyBuzzard: are you gonna greet them with your knife at the door?
[13:48:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'no excuse not to eat enough candy to give five people diabetes
[13:48:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, this town did trick-or-treating last night so it wouldn't interfere with highschool football.
[13:48:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> That's the midwest for you.
[13:49:05] <geotti> bah, chocolate is not candy.. [checks packaging] yup, 98%
[13:49:25] <geotti> it's a hallucinogen
[13:49:51] <geotti> crazy_sports_events--
[13:49:51] <Bender> karma - crazy_sports_events: -1
[13:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think yer hallucinating
[13:50:28] <geotti> lindt++
[13:50:28] <Bender> karma - lindt: 1
[13:50:36] <geotti> swiss_chocolate++
[13:50:36] <Bender> karma - swiss_chocolate: 1
[13:51:13] <geotti> it's not the best, but pretty good
[13:52:47] <geotti> empty_pack--
[13:52:47] <Bender> karma - empty_pack: -1
[13:53:30] <geotti> water++
[13:53:30] <Bender> karma - water: 15
[13:54:58] <crutchy> themightybot died :(
[13:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, he's busy
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[14:55:11] <paulej72> I am still alive, just busy getting caught up at work.
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[15:45:10] <swiss> swiss_chocolate++
[15:45:10] <Bender> karma - swiss_chocolate: 2
[15:45:12] <swiss> it is good
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[15:50:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Demystifying the MOOC - http://sylnt.us - see-me-feel-me-teach-me-heal-me
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[16:29:23] <ar> single_origin_chocolate++
[16:29:23] <Bender> karma - single_origin_chocolate: 1
[16:29:58] <ar> (really, try it. it's a lot better than the blends you're getting in regular chocolate)
[16:35:29] <Konomi> caffeine++
[16:35:29] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 30
[16:35:33] <Konomi> sleep--
[16:35:33] <Bender> karma - sleep: 8
[16:35:45] <Konomi> insomnia--
[16:35:45] <Bender> karma - insomnia: -1
[16:35:52] <Konomi> din't even ask ;p
[16:35:55] <Konomi> don't*
[16:39:08] <geotti> Konomi: did you dream of systemd (ducks)
[16:39:53] <Konomi> it boots to fast I never catch it
[16:40:23] * geotti doesn't care how fast his servers boot, instead he cares about how long they stay up
[16:41:11] * geotti needs a break
[16:44:16] <Konomi> systemctl stop geotti
[16:44:17] <Konomi> ;p
[16:45:11] <geotti> thx
[16:45:13] <geotti> : )
[16:45:26] <geotti> that'd be userctl, maybe?
[16:46:06] <Konomi> systemctl isolate geotti
[16:46:29] <Konomi> hmm there's a disable!
[16:48:29] <geotti> systemctl doesn't work with me, though
[16:48:35] <geotti> I don't run Linux ; )
[16:49:00] <Konomi> why is it such a problem for you if you don't even use linux it wasn't meant for any other kernel ;p
[16:49:27] <geotti> that doesn't mean I don't use Linux
[16:49:36] <geotti> but you can try launchctl ;)
[16:49:38] <Konomi> I don't run linux
[16:49:39] <Konomi> but I use it
[16:49:41] <Konomi> okay then
[16:50:00] <Konomi> you must explode when you have to log onto a windows pc
[16:53:13] <geotti> i usually only repair them from the outside
[16:53:33] <geotti> by using linux :p
[16:56:11] <geotti> for most everything else there's wine/crossover
[16:56:15] <geotti> codeweavers++
[16:56:15] <Bender> karma - codeweavers: 1
[17:08:43] <Konomi> http://vimeo.com
[17:08:44] <NetCraft> ^ 03DIE YOUNG- Fan Animated on Vimeo
[17:28:51] * juggs whacks Konomi - I thought you were joking when you said you were going to blow up my PC!
[17:29:08] <Konomi> um I was
[17:29:18] <juggs> Switch it on today just to get.... error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'
[17:29:22] <juggs> What fun xD
[17:30:52] <juggs> Weirdly - disconnected all peripherals and did the IT Crowd on it a couple of times and now it's fine again
[17:31:19] <juggs> no logs of course as it was failing to mount any FS
[17:31:33] <Konomi> wat that one
[17:31:35] <Konomi> grub error?
[17:32:23] <juggs> All I did was power it off and on again a couple times and it came up.... didn't actually "fix" anything :/
[17:32:54] <juggs> Something is clearly in the first stages of pegging out... I shall keep my backups warm :D
[17:33:40] <Konomi> outside makes me wonder if the partition table went wonky
[17:34:03] <Konomi> god I remember fixing a partition table with some really old dos boot disk utility once
[17:34:13] <Konomi> 5 hours later my god it took forever
[17:34:21] <Konomi> got chocolates out of it though \o/
[17:34:25] <Konomi> bonus hehe
[17:34:25] <juggs> yay!
[17:34:36] <Konomi> customer was happy vital photos were recovered
[17:34:44] <Konomi> and a backup usb hard drive was sold
[17:34:57] <Konomi> learned their lesson when I told them it all might be gone
[17:35:13] <Konomi> I know technicaly I could've like done some diving into the sectors
[17:35:29] <Konomi> but let a little scare teach them a good lesson I say >:)
[17:35:52] <geotti> hirens++ #for putting all the tools on on medium
[17:35:52] <Bender> karma - hirens: 1
[17:36:12] <juggs> Most I've ever had to do is run TestDisk and PhotoRec to get people's treasured files back for them.
[17:37:34] <juggs> Makes me look great, but actually I have no friggin idea how testdisk does it's magic.... photorec seems self evident though... just takes an absolute age to run.
[17:38:08] <geotti> norton_disk_destroyer++
[17:38:08] <Bender> karma - norton_disk_destroyer: 1
[17:38:42] <Konomi> disks are so big now but low operations haven't really speed up at all
[17:38:49] <Konomi> it's extremely painful when you're a tech
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[17:39:16] <Konomi> time to zero fill badblocks that disk
[17:39:21] <Konomi> come back only a skeleton at the desk
[17:40:18] <geotti> Konomi: you're supposed to automate the menial tasks
[17:40:49] <Konomi> I'm afraid only so much can be automated ;p
[17:40:55] <geotti> we've had quite a bit of discussions about this in the repair shop of a friend
[17:41:01] <Konomi> for instance if we could just automate the end user we'd never have to fix anything agian
[17:41:12] <geotti> automate_end_users++
[17:41:12] <Bender> karma - automate_end_users: 1
[17:41:34] <Konomi> but alas some walking differential machines are not as good as others
[17:45:51] <juggs> not showing any SMART errors... but that doesn't entirely fill me with confidence. I'll stick memtest running on it next time I sleep, see if that picks anything up.
[17:46:12] <Konomi> smart is pretty reliable actually
[17:46:27] <Konomi> sounds like you've had some bits flipped that weren't meant to be flipped though
[17:46:36] <Konomi> I'd check the partition structure/mbr
[17:50:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Somebodyโ€™s Already Using Verizonโ€™s ID to Track Users - http://sylnt.us - wildlife-tags
[18:00:03] <Konomi> heh that tag line approved
[18:28:13] <Landon> geotti: trying to simplify my website now that I'm using jekyll
[18:28:19] <Landon> lot of crap to cut out
[18:28:40] <Landon> but much more sane than a thousand nested django templates
[18:28:56] <geotti> cool, does the web-editor work simple enough for your wife
[18:29:06] <Landon> not that far yet
[18:29:33] <Landon> once I roll out the website, I'll evaluate all the options for editing
[18:29:54] <Landon> I might be able to just give her a git primer, she got the hang of irssi/ssh pretty quick
[18:30:11] <geotti> ah, then you're in luck
[18:30:23] * geotti has to deal with the dumbos
[18:31:07] <geotti> i'm setting up buster for ghost right now
[18:31:13] <geotti> looks like it's going to work
[18:31:22] <geotti> at least it did locally
[18:31:53] <SirFinkus> uh oh, another spacecraft went down
[18:32:00] <SirFinkus> this one sounds like it was manned
[18:32:50] <geotti> SirFinkus: source?
[18:33:30] <geotti> oh virgin's spaceplane
[18:33:36] <SirFinkus> https://twitter.com
[18:33:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Virgin Galactic (@virgingalactic) | Twitter
[18:34:48] <SirFinkus> reports of at least one fatality, not confirmed though
[18:38:07] <Landon> oh wow
[18:39:18] <SirFinkus> UPDATE:Virgin Galactic's partner Scaled Composites conducted a powered test flight of #SpaceShipTwo earlier today. (1 of 4)
[18:39:25] <SirFinkus> During the test, the vehicle suffered a serious anomaly resulting in the loss of SpaceShipTwo. WK2 landed safely. (2 of 4)
[18:39:33] <SirFinkus> Our first concern is the status of the pilots, which is unknown at this time. (3 of 4)
[18:39:40] <SirFinkus> We will work closely with relevant authorities to determine the cause of this accident and provide updates ASAP. (4 of 4)
[18:39:47] <SirFinkus> virgin's statement
[18:45:02] <SirFinkus> there may be a survivor
[18:45:13] <blackmoore|afk> damn.
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[18:45:53] <Blackmoore> i sent in a submission, but it's bad form to approve your own stuff
[18:46:24] <paulej72> I can post it
[18:46:45] <SirFinkus> here's another link if you need one
[18:46:46] <SirFinkus> http://www.kerngoldenempire.com
[18:47:08] <Blackmoore> i have two more in editorial
[18:47:20] <SirFinkus> might want to add the twitter statement too
[18:49:32] <SirFinkus> https://twitter.com
[18:49:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03FOX 4 NEWS on Twitter: "Virgin Galactic confirms it suffered loss of #SpaceShipTwo during test flight; status of pilo...
[18:51:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Breaking news - Virgin SpaceShipTwo Crash - http://sylnt.us - Bad-news-comes-in-threes
[18:53:47] <JamesNZ> :(
[19:09:02] <SirFinkus> not a great week for spaceflight
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[19:13:06] <SirFinkus> CHP confirms one dead
[19:13:31] <SirFinkus> and one injured, via the bbc link
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[19:51:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Got Gas? Switch to Sourdough - http://sylnt.us - passing-interest
[19:59:02] <geotti> well, the proton launched fine
[20:35:13] <geotti> Yay!
[20:35:17] <geotti> ghost_with_buster++
[20:35:17] <Bender> karma - ghost_with_buster: 1
[20:35:28] <geotti> ghostbuster++
[20:35:28] <Bender> karma - ghostbuster: 1
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[21:00:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Colleges Face New โ€˜Gainful Employmentโ€™ Regulations for Student Loans - http://sylnt.us - underwater-basketweaving
[21:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, looks like we got some decent fishing coming up this weekend
[21:21:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:21:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[21:23:39] * SirFinkus is listening to Sleep โ€” Dopesmoker, from the album Dopesmoker
[21:23:42] <SirFinkus> dopesmoker++
[21:23:42] <Bender> karma - dopesmoker: 1
[21:26:31] <crutchy> doorsnoker++
[21:26:31] <Bender> karma - doorsnoker: 1
[21:27:42] * crutchy has been listening to a mixed bag of stuff lately
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[21:28:20] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:28:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[21:28:32] <Blackmoore> but i really want rum.
[21:31:09] <crutchy> metallica, derlee, skrillex, deep forest, a-pink, madeon, guns n roses, bon jovi, u2, alen silvestri
[21:31:31] <crutchy> Blackmoore, the rum is gone?
[21:32:08] <chromas> crutchy++ # musical diversity
[21:32:09] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 112
[21:32:34] <crutchy> why is the rum gone? *in best johnny depp stoned voive he can muster*
[21:32:51] <crutchy> voive++
[21:32:51] <Bender> karma - voive: 1
[21:32:58] <crutchy> typos++
[21:32:58] <Bender> karma - typos: 1
[21:33:07] * chromas passes around every drug there is
[21:33:09] <SirFinkus> I found 8 new bands in the past 2 weeks
[21:33:23] <crutchy> chromas, dude do you ever sleep lol
[21:33:43] <SirFinkus> err, 9
[21:34:21] <crutchy> youtube random searches and link clicking is good way to discover new music
[21:35:06] <SirFinkus> it can work
[21:35:49] <SirFinkus> I tried last.fm for that kind of thing, but it's pretty shitty at recommending new stuff
[21:36:03] <crutchy> there's a video with 10 hours of ambient noise from the nostromo (alien) medical bay
[21:36:12] <SirFinkus> looking for stuff in related videos with interesting cover art works much better
[21:36:30] <Azrael> crutchy: oo I enjoyed that the other day!!
[21:38:23] <SirFinkus> PROCEEDS THE WEEDIAN NAZARETH
[21:38:37] <SirFinkus> weedian_nazareth++
[21:38:37] <Bender> karma - weedian_nazareth: 1
[21:42:20] <Blackmoore> the rum is home.
[21:42:23] <crutchy> audiomachine++
[21:42:23] <Bender> karma - audiomachine: 1
[21:42:30] <Blackmoore> sadly I am at work.
[21:42:32] <crutchy> ~time Blackmoore
[21:42:33] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Friday, 31 October 2014, 9:42 pm
[21:42:47] <crutchy> ~time new yrok
[21:42:48] <exec> Friday, 31 October 2014 @ 5:42 pm EDT - New York, NY
[21:42:52] <Blackmoore> EST here. i'm stuck here till 7pm
[21:43:02] <Blackmoore> or another hour
[21:43:20] <crutchy> what do you do?
[21:43:27] <crutchy> are you stuck in a datacenter?
[21:43:45] <Blackmoore> sales.
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[21:43:51] <crutchy> ah
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[21:44:23] <Blackmoore> but for practical purposes more of specalist than real sales.
[21:48:18] <SirFinkus> you make it sound like you're aa arms smuggler or something
[21:51:11] <crutchy> business is booming lately
[21:53:49] <SirFinkus> HAHA I GET IT
[21:53:51] <crutchy> when i heard that the US government sent 600 tonnes of weapons and ammo to syria last year i wasn't even surprised anymore
[21:55:14] <crutchy> but now they're surprised that the guys in iraq are fighting against US weapons :/
[21:55:28] <Blackmoore> SirFinkus: sometimes i feel like i am. i have some weapons grade encryption. and softwre that's likely to implode and take out infrastructure..
[21:55:52] <SirFinkus> hehe
[21:56:12] <crutchy> technological superiority kinda doesn't work if you keep giving your technology to the bad guys, but meh
[21:56:14] <Blackmoore> or at least my system admins go postal
[21:58:17] <crutchy> thomas_bergersen++
[21:58:17] <Bender> karma - thomas_bergersen: 1
[21:58:38] <chromas> crutchy: giving them weapons is how we entertain ourselves
[21:58:43] <SirFinkus> it's almost like we want there to be small eternal conflicts in resource rich countries
[21:58:48] <SirFinkus> tinfoil++
[21:58:48] <Bender> karma - tinfoil: 2
[22:00:04] <SirFinkus> I hope my new guitar strings come today, these ones have seen better days
[22:00:21] <chromas> We probably don't /need/ the conflict to get the resources anymore but why end the tradition?
[22:01:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Autodesk Announces $100 Million 3D-Printing Investment Fund - http://sylnt.us - bread-upon-the-waters
[22:03:16] <crutchy> can't mess with tradition
[22:03:30] <crutchy> just watch out when the pentagon goes trick or treating
[22:03:48] <SirFinkus> so when was the last time the US wasn't involved in a conflict?
[22:04:03] <crutchy> treat=oil, trick=destroy country
[22:04:09] <SirFinkus> it seems like we've been at war pretty consistently since WW2
[22:04:23] <crutchy> military_industrial_complex--
[22:04:23] <Bender> karma - military_industrial_complex: -1
[22:04:38] <crutchy> ron paul has been warning about this stuff since the 80's
[22:04:39] <Blackmoore> That's a trick question. US has been involved in SOME kind of conflict sonce 1776
[22:04:50] <crutchy> everyone just treated him like a kook
[22:05:22] <Blackmoore> eisnhaur warned about it before Ron paul
[22:05:42] <crutchy> just like they treating him like a kook now when he talks about US's impending financial ruin
[22:05:52] <Blackmoore> hell I bet a lot of presidents talked about it.
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[22:06:27] <JamesNZ> food++
[22:06:27] <Bender> karma - food: 6
[22:06:30] <SirFinkus> I can't wait for this tech bubble to pop
[22:06:32] <crutchy> food++
[22:06:32] <Bender> karma - food: 7
[22:06:37] <SirFinkus> going to make things interesting
[22:06:50] <JamesNZ> I'm eating heaven.
[22:06:55] <crutchy> SirFinkus, s/tech/stock/
[22:07:10] <crutchy> JamesNZ, oh you with a lady friend then?
[22:07:11] <SirFinkus> I think the tech stuff is going to be the most dramatic though
[22:07:27] * crutchy isn't aware of a tech bubble
[22:07:34] <JamesNZ> crutchy: No, a bean friend ;)
[22:07:53] <crutchy> seems like ol' moore's law is slowin down from my (albeit limited) perspective
[22:07:57] <JamesNZ> And a fish one.
[22:08:06] <SirFinkus> so, like whatsapp
[22:08:27] <crutchy> ah. the internet stupid bubble
[22:08:37] <SirFinkus> $19 billion for what?
[22:08:47] <crutchy> i mean 'internet stupid' bubble
[22:08:57] <crutchy> US money is cheap
[22:09:11] <crutchy> your government is inflating it away something shocking
[22:09:35] <crutchy> and doesn't even realize it, even when 1 million dollars beecomes loose change
[22:09:36] <SirFinkus> even then, think about it for a second
[22:09:44] <SirFinkus> there are 7 billion people in the world
[22:10:18] <JamesNZ> crutchy: $1,000,000 is not loose change for most people :P
[22:10:26] <crutchy> JamesNZ, i know
[22:10:31] <SirFinkus> so they expect to make like $2.60 per person
[22:10:41] <SirFinkus> on the entire planet earth
[22:10:47] <SirFinkus> on what, advertising?
[22:10:59] <crutchy> nah they'll just get it all back from the federal reserve
[22:11:06] <SirFinkus> does that not strike anyone else as absolutely insane?
[22:11:15] <JamesNZ> They probably expect some people to 'buy' more than once.
[22:11:15] <crutchy> quantitative_easing++
[22:11:15] <Bender> karma - quantitative_easing: 1
[22:12:21] <crutchy> SirFinkus, all their debt will be inflated away
[22:12:30] <SirFinkus> like, super optimistically, 3.5 billion people is their market
[22:12:35] <crutchy> its all just real monopoly money
[22:12:47] * SirFinkus wishes he had some monopoly money
[22:13:49] <crutchy> at the moment you can use it to buy food, but eventually you won't. unfortunately in the past currency values tend to decline gradually and then reach a threshold and plummet to nothing in a very short time
[22:14:44] <SirFinkus> tl;dr we're all fucked
[22:14:49] <geotti> ah, great ppp-up.d ppp-down.d scripts enabling/disabling nginx sites, when a user connects/disconnects from vpn to make ghost admin interface available, and a web-enabled buster to grab the resulting blog to a static dir, which is always enabled.
[22:14:50] <crutchy> might affect a lot of countries, but US and EU i think are at risk. not only because of government policies but also population density which will make things dangerous
[22:15:04] <geotti> awesum!
[22:15:11] * geotti goes to make a backup
[22:15:13] <SirFinkus> watch, from the ashes will rise...
[22:15:18] <SirFinkus> ...North Korea!
[22:15:32] <crutchy> lol i was thinking the same thing after you typed the first bit :D
[22:15:43] <geotti> lol, ciri
[22:15:50] <crutchy> bent minds think alike :d
[22:15:50] <geotti> where is ciri?
[22:16:17] <geotti> china or brics will steamroll the west soon enough
[22:16:20] <crutchy> yesh. where is the cir meister?
[22:16:30] <SirFinkus> I imagine the people emerging from the country, blinking their eyes like people who have just emerged from a vault after surviving nuclear armageddon
[22:16:51] <crutchy> geotti, yeah i think that could happen. hopefully not but i wouldn't count it out
[22:17:10] <SirFinkus> only 13 more minutes on dopesmoker
[22:17:16] <crutchy> china and russia together would be a force to be reckoned with
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[22:17:51] <crutchy> they already got a kind of NATO counter thing going
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[22:18:21] * SirFinkus blames systemd
[22:18:31] <SirFinkus> and beta
[22:18:34] <SirFinkus> beta--
[22:18:34] <Bender> karma - beta: -19
[22:19:24] <geotti> crutchy: if it's the brics and not just china, it'll be okay
[22:19:29] <geotti> better than just the states
[22:19:43] <crutchy> http://www.telegraphindia.com
[22:19:44] <NetCraft> ^ 03Delhi gears to join China-Russia club
[22:20:08] <crutchy> imagine china, russia and india together? zergling rush much?
[22:20:43] <geotti> they'll let you live just the same..
[22:20:57] <geotti> it's not like they're going to actually go and annex territory
[22:21:12] <geotti> it doesn't make sense economically
[22:21:22] <crutchy> south china sea?
[22:21:22] <geotti> they'll just dominate the markets
[22:22:05] <geotti> yeah, maybe some oil/sun/wind rich places, but that's about it
[22:22:05] <crutchy> china is building its own islands in the south china sea to secure their recently acquired territory
[22:22:41] <crutchy> they'll prolly just buy up stuff in the west
[22:22:48] <crutchy> and run everything by proxy
[22:22:51] <geotti> if we get to fusion reactors before that, it'll solve itself
[22:23:00] <geotti> they already do
[22:23:08] <geotti> : )
[22:23:18] <geotti> the buying up part
[22:23:41] <geotti> it's a miracle Opel didn't get sold to the Russians
[22:23:52] * crutchy was wondering whether china had any vested interests in american politics. pentagons lack of interest in the south china sea dispute pretty much answered that
[22:24:25] <geotti> it's not like the US has a lot of leverage against china anymore
[22:24:54] <crutchy> nod
[22:25:02] <crutchy> even business-wise
[22:25:13] <crutchy> chinese economy is at least as big
[22:25:29] <geotti> except they also produce everything
[22:25:47] <geotti> and have dirt-cheap wages
[22:25:55] <crutchy> that's america's achille's heel... unfortunately; dependence on china for production
[22:26:00] <geotti> so yeah.. I think they're already bigger
[22:26:04] <chromas> we also get stuff from Mexico
[22:26:09] <crutchy> lol
[22:26:09] <ciri> hahaha
[22:26:17] <chromas> besides our drugs
[22:26:21] <geotti> chromas: like the weed?
[22:26:22] <crutchy> guns?
[22:26:37] * geotti never had bc bud...
[22:26:43] <geotti> heard good things about it though
[22:26:47] <chromas> I had a tv whose remote control was made in Mexico
[22:26:54] <crutchy> oh wow?
[22:26:59] <geotti> nice
[22:27:14] <chromas> although shit, that was from 1993 or so
[22:27:17] <crutchy> everything electronic in my house is made in china or taiwan
[22:27:38] <crutchy> (which is apparently part of china now anyway, or some shit)
[22:29:10] * geotti got a backup and everything working, including documentation
[22:29:15] <geotti> it's time to go out for a beer
[22:29:20] <geotti> yay!
[22:29:30] <geotti> I can finally start on the booking engine later
[22:29:56] geotti is now known as geotti|afk
[22:30:05] <geotti|afk> laterz
[22:31:10] <chromas> ^weather see you didn't leave you're still talking
[22:31:11] <geotti|afk> Invalid query. Try again.
[22:32:07] <chromas> peanuts--
[22:32:07] <Bender> karma - peanuts: -1
[22:32:18] <chromas> peanuts-- # severely overrated
[22:32:18] <Bender> karma - peanuts: -2
[22:33:22] <crutchy> poutine--
[22:33:22] <Bender> karma - poutine: -357
[22:34:03] <chromas> ^ magnum
[22:34:10] <crutchy> anyone know a good way to backup running virtual boxes?
[22:34:25] <crutchy> rsyinc maybe
[22:34:29] * crutchy googles
[22:36:09] <SirFinkus> like, live disk images, or just the files?
[22:36:58] <SirFinkus> if so, I think the best way would probably to host them on a filesystem with versioning and COW and all that fun stuff
[22:37:03] <SirFinkus> like btrfs or zfs
[22:37:54] <chromas> cow++
[22:37:54] <Bender> karma - cow: 2
[22:38:07] <chromas> hammerfs++
[22:38:07] <Bender> karma - hammerfs: 2
[22:38:51] <SirFinkus> I don't know if that would actually work, but it seems like it might
[22:39:00] <SirFinkus> http://www.linux.com
[22:39:04] <chromas> needs a port to linux
[22:40:19] * SirFinkus loves filesystems
[22:41:08] <chromas> what's your opinion/experience with btrfs?
[22:41:31] <SirFinkus> the featureset is nice, but I found it a little wonky last time I tried it
[22:41:38] <SirFinkus> I'm by no means an expert though
[22:41:48] <chromas> that's what I've heard :\
[22:42:15] <chromas> when it becomes more stable, it'd be cool if I could convert a whole disk and it would absorb existing partitions as subvolumes
[22:42:22] <SirFinkus> some of the things it can do are sexy
[22:42:59] <SirFinkus> want to add a new disk to you virtual volume? Just plug it in, run a few commands, and do a rebalance
[22:43:57] <SirFinkus> I want to play with zfs as well, but I need a box
[22:45:20] <crutchy> company has just bought all this fancy file server and disaster recovery stuff, but our vm hypervisor is still on its own
[22:46:10] <crutchy> i'll look into scripting a pause-rsync-unpause midnight crontab or something
[22:46:20] <SirFinkus> yeah, they probably wouldn't be too happy if you slapped btrfs on it
[22:47:07] * SirFinkus would be though
[22:47:51] <crutchy> hmm might have to shut it down, rsync and then restart
[22:47:59] <crutchy> that's ok though
[22:48:14] <SirFinkus> rsync++
[22:48:14] <Bender> karma - rsync: 5
[22:48:56] <crutchy> i'll send myself an email every time the script runs so that if i don't get one i know something brked
[22:49:31] <SirFinkus> might want to not make it exactly midnight though, that's too spooky for me
[22:49:41] <crutchy> lol
[22:49:43] <SirFinkus> seems like the kind of place there would be an edgecase
[22:49:46] <crutchy> maybe 11pm
[22:50:34] <SirFinkus> http://infiniteundo.com
[22:51:58] <SirFinkus> I like #29
[22:51:59] <SirFinkus> Time stamps will always be specified in a commonly-understood format like 1339972628 or 133997262837.
[22:52:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> I like #32
[22:52:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> because I've worked on a system that specified timestamps in microseconds (1/1000ths of a millisecond) and it's had collisions on that.
[22:53:53] <SirFinkus> be sure and read the followup article
[22:53:53] <ciri> when you coming back. miss ya already! ;) SirFinkus
[22:54:13] <SirFinkus> when did I leave?
[22:55:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> ciri is just all kinds of fucked up
[22:56:08] <JamesNZ> No, she's just lonely.
[22:56:38] <Blackmoore> remeber, dont stick you dick in crazy.
[22:56:45] <Blackmoore> and with that. I'm out.
[22:56:57] <Blackmoore> cya!
[22:57:03] * SirFinkus forgot ciri was a bot
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[22:57:24] <SirFinkus> You will never have to parse a format like ---12Z or P12Y34M56DT78H90M12.345S
[23:00:40] <chromas> 32 seems false to me
[23:00:55] <chromas> if you have collisions then it's not of sufficient precision
[23:04:20] <SirFinkus> well, there is a practical limit
[23:04:25] <SirFinkus> and an impractical one
[23:05:24] <crutchy> exec uses a little convert_timestamp function in the script lib
[23:05:35] * SirFinkus wonders if it's actually possible for 2 events to occur at exactly same time
[23:05:37] <crutchy> $arr=date_parse_from_format($format,$time);
[23:05:37] <crutchy> return mktime($arr["hour"],$arr["minute"],$arr["second"],$arr["month"],$arr["day"],$arr["year"]);
[23:05:44] <crutchy> ^ that's all it is
[23:05:58] <crutchy> but allows me to convert any (known) time string
[23:06:48] <SirFinkus> I think the second list is better, because they seem like oddly specific problems people have encountered
[23:07:09] <chromas> timestamps should be floats, like in spreadsheets
[23:07:11] <chromas> โ€ฆ
[23:07:16] <chromas> :D
[23:07:55] <crutchy> like in pascal :D
[23:08:01] <SirFinkus> the last one is a doozy
[23:08:02] <SirFinkus> The software will never run on a space ship that is orbiting a black hole.
[23:08:04] <crutchy> TTimeStamp++
[23:08:04] <Bender> karma - ttimestamp: 1
[23:08:52] <chromas> ttimestamp is a record in fpc
[23:08:59] <chromas> has date and time ints
[23:09:06] <chromas> fpc++
[23:09:06] <Bender> karma - fpc: 1
[23:09:28] * chromas wonders what it would be like to have a positive date and negative time
[23:09:30] <crutchy> oops
[23:09:32] <crutchy> my bad
[23:09:36] <crutchy> TDateTime
[23:09:46] <crutchy> too long since i delphied :(
[23:10:10] <chromas> oh yeah; tdatetime--
[23:10:21] <chromas> and it's only a Double
[23:10:37] <chromas> I like the Currency type; need more of those
[23:14:08] <crutchy> might be getting back into some delphi soon at work hopefully
[23:14:29] <crutchy> backup program needs some tweaks due to some changes in the new server thingys
[23:14:43] <crutchy> in_house_development++
[23:14:43] <Bender> karma - in_house_development: 1
[23:15:33] <JamesNZ> People still use Delphi? O_o
[23:15:33] <crutchy> never imagined an engineering consultancy would be so into writing its own software
[23:16:00] <crutchy> i'd use lazarus, but i don't think it has ADO support
[23:16:21] * crutchy needs ADO for integration with company Access applications
[23:16:25] <crutchy> msaccess--
[23:16:25] <Bender> karma - msaccess: -2
[23:23:16] <JamesNZ> food++
[23:23:16] <Bender> karma - food: 8
[23:30:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Creates Tor Hidden Service - http://sylnt.us - social-networkaholics-anonymous
[23:34:18] <SirFinkus> woohoo, new strings out for deliver
[23:34:21] <SirFinkus> delivery
[23:38:30] <chromas> gstrings++
[23:38:30] <Bender> karma - gstrings: 1
[23:56:00] <Alberto> crutchy tADO* doesn't have ADO support?
[23:56:24] <crutchy> dunno. is that part of freepascal/lazarus?
[23:56:55] <crutchy> i know delphi has ADO components
[23:56:59] <Alberto> http://wiki.freepascal.org
[23:57:00] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03Lazarus Tdbf Tutorial
[23:57:07] <Alberto> crutchy also http://wiki.freepascal.org
[23:57:08] <NetCraft> ^ 04Wiki: 03MS Access
[23:57:58] <Alberto> crutchy http://www.mediafire.com
[23:58:29] <Alberto> anyway there you have a lot of code and examples
[23:58:41] <crutchy> NetCraft confirms! YOU CAN RUN A BLOW-OFF ON A PUSH BIKE!
[23:59:05] <crutchy> s/OFF/OFF VALVE/
[23:59:05] <SedBot2> <crutchy> NetCraft confirms! YOU CAN RUN A BLOW-OFF VALVE ON A PUSH BIKE!
[23:59:08] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[23:59:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03Blow Off Valves Mythbusted - YouTube