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[00:09:33] <paulej72> OK the emails were fixed by not encoding the body.
[00:10:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent
[00:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> figured that would be it
[00:10:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> what was i gonna fix tomorrow again?
[00:11:17] <paulej72> I was trying multiple things at once and had to figure out what the actual fix was
[00:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[00:11:27] <paulej72> M2
[00:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, should only take half the morning
[00:11:57] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[00:12:01] <paulej72> bad fomating on the journals and articles on the top of comments
[00:12:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right
[00:12:43] <paulej72> I fell like I was doing this same shit lat Wenesday
[00:12:55] * TheMightyBuzzard copy n pastes that to hey_fucker.txt that he keeps open for notes
[00:13:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly were but all new bugs
[00:13:22] <paulej72> OK while I am fixing mails, I am going to look at the sbscription emails
[00:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're not hard to do i just had no inspiration for the layout
[00:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> in fact i think they're a bit overdone as it is.
[00:21:26] <paulej72> crap
[00:22:22] <paulej72> my head hurts already looking at https://github.com
[00:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> just a buncha simple math really
[00:24:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll do it if you'll email me a how ya want it laid out example
[00:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly get rid of half the code while i'm at it too.
[00:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean do we wanna break it down by paypal/bitpay or just the total or yadda yadda yadda
[00:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> renewals aren't an issue yet.
[00:48:08] <juggs> Anyone running a QNAP NAS?
[00:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i am pondering taking a nap
[00:49:47] <juggs> there's a queue for that! badum-tish :D
[00:50:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, snuck that one up on me
[00:50:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i think we could do the @uid translated into a linked username really, really easy.
[00:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> or @username or @"user name"
[00:51:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> all three could work at once even
[00:55:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we do the conversion as the comment is submitted rather than on display. means one lookup vs thousands.
[00:55:47] <paulej72> I have been looking at the code and we need to fix a lot i the subs email. also it feeds into the stats system so that needs fixed as well.
[00:56:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[00:56:12] <paulej72> Not sure if this can make it into 14.10
[00:57:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly not but if it gets done in the first week of 10 we can just point release it
[00:57:21] <paulej72> sure
[00:58:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i may write up a quick implementation of the @uid/username/"user name" system tomorrow too. would be pretty simple to do.
[00:59:58] <paulej72> would work like the <url:link> shortcut
[01:00:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> essentially, yeah
[01:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to do a db lookup but one per comment is no biggie at this point.
[01:02:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> just a quick uid to username conversion if they use uid then replace any spaces with + and tack it on to the sitename variable for the href="foo" bit
[01:02:41] <paulej72> you might want to make the trigger more complex than just @uid as it would be easier to use <@uid> or something that would be easier to regex on
[01:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> could i guess but it's an ease of use feature for the users so easy for them would be the primary consideration as opposed to can it be gamed or mistaken
[01:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> could also tie in nicely with user to user messaging later
[01:04:51] <paulej72> what do ohter sites typically use, or hat does phpBB use
[01:05:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno. the @blah came from twitter i think though i've seen it a lot on other comment systems, unofficially done by users.
[01:06:33] <SpallsHurgenson> user-to-user messenging? sounds like featuritis run amok.
[01:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> could do **blah for that matter
[01:06:41] <paulej72> just the @foo bar does not work
[01:06:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but @"foo bar" would.
[01:07:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> just match /^"(.*?)"/ and $1 is your username
[01:07:37] <paulej72> people will forget the quotes but <@foo bar> is hard to fuck up
[01:07:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[01:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, can't
[01:09:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> would have to allow every username as a tag or it'd get stripped
[01:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> or preempt the logic, which could wind it up in the wrong place.
[01:09:44] <paulej72> pick it off befor the the tag masher
[01:10:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, just worried that might be tricky to find the right spot.
[01:10:28] <paulej72> <URL:http://example.com/> will auto-link a URL
[01:10:28] <monopoly> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[01:10:45] <paulej72> that picks it off earlier or some such
[01:11:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool, be easier to find then
[01:11:53] <paulej72> that is why i suggested doing something similar. the logic is already woked out
[01:12:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, spose that'd work well enough then
[01:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i think going by uid would be easiest for us. i mean it's right there next to the username on every comment. i'm not going to wind up in the majority on that opinion though.
[01:16:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> dammit. half the submissions in the queue are from me.
[01:17:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> go you
[01:17:25] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, if ever implemented I think u2u messaging (mail) would have to come with a hefty dose of options to choose who to allow / block messages from (Fan/Foe/Freak/Karma?/Blacklist/Whitelist/Staff etc.) type graduations. I can imagine it being really divisive without those controls.
[01:17:34] <juggs> AndyTheAbsurd, good work sir :D
[01:17:36] <JamesNZ> Submit dat shiz!
[01:18:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> you angling for a free sub or something?
[01:18:33] <SpallsHurgenson> and I'm saying, "hey I already have email" so whatever happened to focussing on the core strengths of soylent (articles/comments) and not worrying about reinventing the wheel :)
[01:18:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh damn, i said sub. now i want a sammich.
[01:18:36] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[01:19:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> I already have a paid sub (because I want soylentnews.org to continue and be self-sustaining and all that jazz), so no, I'm not angling for a free sub.
[01:19:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> Gir have used "sudo make me a sammich" in that video...
[01:19:53] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[01:19:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, kidding man, though you'll likely end up with one if you keep that level of awesome up.
[01:22:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[01:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really should have a badge for heavy submitters. what says awesome and can fit in like half a dozen pixels?
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[01:23:37] <paulej72> gweg_ would still not get one :)
[01:24:03] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, quite agree - always priorities. But should we get overloaded with devs (hahahahaha!) then it's a thought.
[01:24:06] <paulej72> Also we don’t need not stinkin badges
[01:24:22] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, A steaming pie badge? What's better than pie?
[01:24:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinkin like a piece of bacon or something
[01:24:43] <paulej72> cherry pie :)
[01:24:54] <juggs> paulej72, we need medals and achievements and animated badges!!
[01:24:57] * juggs runs away
[01:25:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess we could just use a submarine
[01:26:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, needs even more awesome
[01:26:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> I just want different colors (or flavors?) of soylent
[01:26:57] <SpallsHurgenson> Flash games!
[01:27:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, we had achievements, we just didn't wanna make em work
[01:27:35] <paulej72> they were working, just a bit annoying
[01:27:36] <juggs> I'm not surprised the motivation-fu was lacking on that one :D
[01:27:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> soylent green = heavy submitter; soylent red = high accepted submission ratio; soylent blue = subscriber
[01:27:55] <juggs> how would that work with the various themes?
[01:27:56] <ciri> you talking to me?
[01:28:09] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[01:28:10] <juggs> no ciri, go back to sleep
[01:28:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> could just change the font color on the name. bonus points to us if we don't explain why, ever.
[01:29:07] <paulej72> just put a jelly badge next to the user name.
[01:29:58] <juggs> be all... "If you need to ask, then you couldn't handle the answer."
[01:29:58] <ciri> me too, smoke time! juggs
[01:30:25] <paulej72> crack head ciri
[01:30:39] <juggs> ciri, don't sleep in bed, you'll set yourself on fire.
[01:30:49] <juggs> wtf!
[01:30:55] <juggs> smoke not sleep lol
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[01:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ciri, don't sleep in bed, I'll set you on fire.
[01:31:30] <juggs> perhaps.. just don't ever sleep
[01:31:42] <paulej72> juggs: if it helps I read it as smoke
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[01:32:12] <chromas> maybe a little crown icon for submission kings
[01:32:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe just a bottle of crown for them and skip the icon.
[01:33:06] * SpallsHurgenson disagrees with everything
[01:33:10] <juggs> paulej72, wonderful how the mind does that magitrickery replacement thing so things actually make sense.
[01:33:12] <chromas> an icon that's a picture of the bottle would be cheaper
[01:33:24] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, you live to disagree :D
[01:33:30] <SpallsHurgenson> no I don't!
[01:33:37] <juggs> :P
[01:34:22] <juggs> reminded me of the Monty Python argument sketch there for a moment
[01:34:50] <SpallsHurgenson> this isn't an argument; this is contradiction!
[01:34:59] <juggs> no it isn't!
[01:36:48] <chromas> No par-tays, no shindigs, no keggers, no hootenannies, no mixers, no raves, no box socials!
[01:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm doin up a geocities theme for april 1.
[01:37:14] <juggs> you should have kept that up your sleeve
[01:37:14] <chromas> with animated gifs?
[01:37:26] <juggs> scrolling text
[01:37:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the under construction sign in place of the logo
[01:37:39] <juggs> sparkly star background
[01:37:41] <chromas> he kind of is; secretly, it's actually going to be a tripod theme
[01:37:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> it may be a twitter theme, you never know
[01:38:23] <chromas> make all the topic icons animated too
[01:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, pj is prolly gonna hafta come up with whatever we do april 1
[01:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll be spending spare time working on the api i think
[01:39:23] <juggs> I vote for full blown Web2.0 fappery with faux social media share encouragement type things that popup over anything you try to mouse over.
[01:39:23] <chromas> cyan
[01:39:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, like buttons!
[01:39:38] * chromas likes this
[01:39:47] <paulej72> beta
[01:39:56] <juggs> likes and +1 for sure
[01:39:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooof, you're evil
[01:40:03] <chromas> comic sans ms
[01:40:19] <chromas> and clippit in the corner
[01:40:30] <paulej72> very large pictures with lots and lots of white space
[01:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, work up a proper "looks like /. beta" theme and you win grand prankster of the year.
[01:40:48] <paulej72> 18pt body text
[01:41:23] <juggs> "I see you're trying to read Soylent News, let me help you with that." Then reflow the layout so it's a complete mess.
[01:41:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[01:41:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> randomly float left or right every div
[01:42:09] <chromas> make it load every bug and tracker script on the internet
[01:42:34] * juggs kickbans chromas :you went too far
[01:42:44] <paulej72> javascript to mess with clicks so that clicking on a link move sthe mouse away
[01:42:55] <juggs> hah
[01:43:14] <juggs> unclickable links. Ohh so many ways to fool around.
[01:43:44] <chromas> halloween could use a theme too. The ghost of beta past haints you
[01:43:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of unclickable links... goddamned firefox bug!
[01:44:08] <juggs> not come across that one tmb
[01:44:17] <paulej72> halloween theme for slash. all orange and black
[01:44:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> you will when bitpay goes live. have to click several times on the link in FF to get it to work sometimes. every other browser we tried it's fine in.
[01:44:56] <chromas> giant pictures like for April 1 except they'll be screenshots of the slash code. Now that's scary
[01:45:10] <paulej72> lol
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[01:45:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, use ResKey.pm as a background image
[01:45:47] <paulej72> quick hide the porn
[01:46:20] <paulej72> dump the error log to the screen
[01:47:10] <paulej72> or at least the slashd log
[01:47:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> little ajax and we could have a live feed of the log
[01:48:51] <paulej72> I like coment better than ajax
[01:48:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy crap! lpanel finally lets you rearrange window order on the taskbar
[01:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> lxpanel even
[01:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, round cat up and sleep time. see you lot in 8h
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[01:52:11] <paulej72> I should get off here as well and get ready for bed
[01:52:17] <paulej72> later all
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[01:57:27] <juggs> damn and I just had brain wave (or a PTSD flash back) - a really slowly loading 200MB SWF intro page when users hit the site - with no visible means of escape... just a slowly creeping "Loading...." bar. :D
[01:58:21] <chromas> now, does it start from 0? Or is it like a floppy disk where it jumps to 99% for a while?
[01:59:41] <juggs> well the percentage can obviously jump all over the place, but also a randomly changing kbps figure for how fast it is downloading. And yes I deliberately didn't capitalise kbps :D
[02:00:18] <chromas> oh yes! "Well, it was 59% but we just found out there's more than we thought, so now it's 12%"
[02:00:20] <juggs> or more annoying kb/Ps or some other nonsensical unit
[02:00:57] <chromas> switch to baud. Please reseat your handset in the accoustic coupler
[02:02:00] <juggs> "Hardware flow control required to access this page. Please re-terminate your cables and try again."
[02:03:25] * juggs is wading through the commentary to NCommander's article. Some interesting thoughts on moderation.
[02:09:28] * chromas submits article; notes that the history disappeared
[02:10:32] <juggs> what history?
[02:10:47] <chromas> my submission history
[02:10:52] <chromas> Not that I wanted to see it
[02:11:16] <chromas> The Accepted % row seems new
[02:16:03] <juggs> That's interesting, I only see my most recent submission in there (Sept 17th). Maybe some time limit was introduced there in recent updates, or maybe it was always so :/ Would need paulej72 or TheMightyBuzzard to confirm that - unless someone wants to grapple with github to figure out.
[02:16:19] <chromas> could be. I haven't submitted in months
[02:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[02:16:37] <chromas> we're just pinging you. ding ding ding
[02:16:45] <juggs> sorry TMB thought you went bye-byes.
[02:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> passing by on the way to bed. no worries.
[02:17:57] <juggs> When submitting an article there is a list of previous submitted. Did that get limited recently or was it always time limited and we only just noticed?
[02:19:16] <chromas> https://www.eff.org
[02:19:23] <chromas> old but I don't recall seeing it go by
[02:20:18] <juggs> I saw it other places.
[02:21:16] * chromas is the slashdot of submitters
[02:22:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I think that would make me the pipedot :)
[02:23:09] <chromas> used to b a pipedot channel on freenods. Nobody used it though
[02:23:18] <juggs> AAGH! I am sick and tired of my carrier terminating my connections because they think they are idle. Effing CGNAT needs to die already.
[02:25:26] <chromas> "You are using an outdated browser. Please upgrade to the latest version for the best MSN experience."
[02:25:34] <chromas> It doesn't even gimme a link to IE or anything
[02:26:10] <SpallsHurgenson> of course it doesn't; saying to use IE is okay, but providing a link counts as a terrorist act :)
[02:26:52] <chromas> we just need to put out the bait and get 'em to say it
[02:27:05] <chromas> then we'll be rid once and for five minutes until they issue a bribe
[02:32:09] <chromas> hunting_for_articles--
[02:32:09] <Bender> karma - hunting_for_articles: -1
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[04:24:27] <arti> !idle
[04:24:28] <ciri> crisp hasn't said a word for 78881 minutes :/
[04:24:53] <mrcoolbp> arti
[04:25:14] <mrcoolbp> I'm editing stories, I should be asleepp = (
[04:25:30] <arti> sounds like you're doing authentic /. editing then
[04:25:40] <mrcoolbp> >= /
[04:25:45] * arti offers half of a rice crispy treat
[04:26:00] <arti> careful, it's fruity pebbles >.>
[04:26:48] * mrcoolbp is always weary of "treats" from arti
[04:29:11] <juggs> lol I just spent 20 minutes typing up a comment then closed out the browser tab without posting as I realised I had managed to go from a succinct point to one claiming to speak for an entire nation.
[04:29:29] <mrcoolbp> well done
[04:29:43] <mrcoolbp> I'm throwing a few in the hopper and I'm off to bed without notice
[04:30:36] <arti> might be an addon you can get to save any text areas
[04:30:45] * juggs signs mrcoolbp's leave to sleep at will slip
[04:31:06] <arti> https://addons.mozilla.org
[04:31:22] <juggs> arti, I meant to throw it away, I had gone way off track by the end.
[04:31:39] <arti> "and another thing, cars should have 5 wheels."
[04:32:52] <mrcoolbp> juggs = P
[04:33:49] <SpallsHurgenson> your ideas intrigue me and I am interested in subscribing to your newsletter
[04:42:36] <juggs> arti, yeh it kind of got to that point. But now you mention it, if it had 5 wheels it may not have derailed so easily. I'll incorporate 6 wheels next time, that's got to be better. I'll put on or two on the handle perhaps....
[04:52:10] <arti> wheel #5 is usually on the back of a worthy vehicle.
[04:58:21] <juggs> didn't they do away with that in favour of a can of spray foam? After all, most people only take their kids to school in them, why supply a spare wheel when it can be an optional "rugged pack" extra? :D
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[06:15:12] <NCommander> juggs, saw that
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[09:05:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:05:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
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[09:27:25] <crutchy> ooh i have something that was made in the USA... a packet of nestle wonka nerds
[09:44:12] <ar> coffee--
[09:44:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 880
[09:44:16] <ar> tea++
[09:44:16] <Bender> karma - tea: 60
[09:45:09] <crutchy> ~gday ar
[09:45:09] <exec> * crutchy insatiably throws a tinfoil hat of pancakes at ar
[09:46:22] <crutchy> my gosh. nc has been writing again
[09:50:57] <ar> hehe
[09:55:09] <crutchy> heh and the comments appear to have degraded into another systemd bashing lol
[09:56:09] <crutchy> maybe nc will have to write a scripty that extracts comments that don't include certain keywords
[09:56:32] <crutchy> or i guess someone else could
[09:58:12] <crutchy> ~suggest write a scripty that extracts comments that don't include certain keywords (such as systemd)
[09:58:24] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[10:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:09:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
[10:10:44] <crutchy> ~suggest a compiled gui client application for SN, with integrated IRC, wiki, auto-login, feeds (based on keywords, username, topic, etc), treeview for comments, user relationship diagram, metadata collection for stats on users (such as no of comments, no of -1/0/1/2/3/4/5 comments, no of accepted submissions, IRC lines, various IRC karma stats, etc)
[10:10:56] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[10:11:02] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:11:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 882
[10:12:45] <crutchy> mornin tmb
[10:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed
[10:16:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~suggest crutchy to build the above client
[10:16:35] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[10:19:18] <crutchy> delphi++
[10:19:18] <Bender> karma - delphi: 21
[10:21:06] <crutchy> once upon a time i might have had a crack at it, but i now know that i would get so far before seeing another shiny unicorn and adding it to my now long list of unfinished projects
[10:21:36] <crutchy> though it might make a good open source thing on github
[10:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto but i got good drugs now so i finish stuff
[10:22:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ever meet a proper dev who isn't on brain drugs, you should suggest they get on them quick
[10:22:44] <crutchy> a plugin-based approach (kinda like slash hah) might work. keep the core simple, and add features that you like
[10:23:54] <crutchy> dynamically load plugins with forms that add a tab to a page control
[10:24:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds reasonable
[10:24:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> has to all be written in perl though if it's gonna be for SN
[10:25:17] <crutchy> or in containers on other forms... plugins inside plugins... how perverse
[10:25:40] <crutchy> if it were me i'd use good ol' delphi 7
[10:25:45] <crutchy> (for windows)
[10:26:01] <crutchy> or lazarus for both windows and linux
[10:26:07] <crutchy> pascal++
[10:26:07] <Bender> karma - pascal: 30
[10:26:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> was one of the first languages i ever used but i remember squat about it
[10:26:53] <crutchy> object pascal is the shit :)
[10:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> was no object back then. we're talkin when i was a teenager
[10:28:39] <crutchy> its the only language that i'm willing to get all oop'y
[10:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, looks like only journals are fubar on the show the story at the top new thing
[10:31:17] <crutchy> on dev?
[10:33:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[10:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> on live too
[10:35:45] <crutchy> looks ok here. http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[10:35:46] <monopoly> ^ 04SN (TMB dev) comment by prospectacle (3422)
[10:35:59] * crutchy isn't sure exactly whats changed
[10:36:14] <crutchy> noticed that the link you posted only has an sid
[10:36:24] <crutchy> does it also need a cid?
[10:36:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> does not. should look like this http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[10:36:47] <monopoly> ^ 04SN (TMB dev) journal 03php irc bot for posting wiki content 04(1 comments)
[10:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's rendering the parent text up above badly
[10:37:43] <crutchy> hmm looks ok here
[10:37:53] <crutchy> i'll see if i can grab a screen cap
[10:38:13] <crutchy> maybe its browser dependent?
[10:38:56] * crutchy is installing screenshooter
[10:40:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not
[10:41:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> look up above at the journal entry text here http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[10:41:06] <monopoly> ^ 04SN (TMB dev) comment by prospectacle (3422)
[10:41:26] <crutchy> http://picpaste.com
[10:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> no links, no paragraphs, no nothing.
[10:42:09] <crutchy> hmm. yeah i get that too
[10:43:41] <crutchy> lol
[10:43:41] <ciri> lol damn!
[10:43:43] <crutchy> buttmagic
[10:43:58] <crutchy> hah
[10:44:06] <crutchy> that host looks familiar :p
[10:44:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> was reading from the wrong field
[10:45:01] <crutchy> ~bot say buttmagic privmsg i farted
[10:45:10] <crutchy> oops
[10:45:20] <crutchy> ~bot say extra_crutchy privmsg i farted
[10:45:21] <buttmagic> i farted
[10:45:26] <crutchy> that's confusing
[10:45:45] <Konomi> farting is confusing?
[10:45:53] <crutchy> ~killall
[10:45:54] -!- buttmagic has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[10:45:54] <exec> terminated pid 10375: php scripts/bot.php 'new extra_crutchy' '#Soylent' 'chromas'
[10:46:07] <Konomi> aussiebb?
[10:46:23] <crutchy> hahaha chromas has been playing :D
[10:46:33] <Konomi> the shame ;p
[10:46:40] <crutchy> aussie broadband
[10:46:51] <Konomi> must be tin cans held up by kangaroos then
[10:47:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. introtext is truncated and article isn't formatted. guess i gotta find the formatting for journals and reapply it.
[10:47:27] <crutchy> got their 200 gb plan from this month. no more shaping for a while :D
[10:47:50] <Konomi> the maze that is the slashdot code base
[10:47:53] <Konomi> sounds like fun ;p
[10:48:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> would be if it wasn't a bug in my code, heh.
[10:51:18] * crutchy offers tmb a can of bug spray
[10:52:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What to Do with our Old Smartphones? A Few Ideas... - http://sylnt.us - more-than-just-paperweights
[10:52:18] <crutchy> ooh i should read that
[10:53:01] <Konomi> microwave them only way to be sure
[10:53:32] <crutchy> mine prolly does need a decent charge
[10:53:59] <Konomi> shame they're not general computing devices we could just put new software onthem
[10:54:02] <Konomi> oh wait ;p
[10:54:12] * crutchy unfolds his old galaxy s2
[10:54:55] <Konomi> the small embedded chat link to freenode below is a bit disturbing
[10:54:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> my phone is smart, it stays on the wall in the kitchen and doesn't try to follow me around and annoy me.
[10:55:06] <Konomi> it's not an apple is it?
[10:55:28] <chromas> pascal++
[10:55:28] <Bender> karma - pascal: 31
[10:55:31] <crutchy> maybe i could put a 'free' open wifi hotspot on it and install wireshark
[10:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's like a $15 wal-mart phone with a cord n everything a phone should have
[10:55:58] <crutchy> oh cords are retro
[10:56:03] <crutchy> cords++
[10:56:03] <Bender> karma - cords: 1
[10:56:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had a dumb phone for a while but it rang at me while i was fishing and now lives in the lake.
[10:56:21] * crutchy does the hustle, wishing he had a pair of corded jeans
[10:56:52] * TheMightyBuzzard has a pathological hatred of phones ringing at him
[10:57:06] <Konomi> don't blame you
[10:57:38] <crutchy> the fishes are using tmb's lake phone for phishing
[10:57:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's like i'll be rockin some good code out and bam, train of thought all shot to shit.
[10:58:06] * crutchy dreads the phone ringing at work for that reason
[10:59:02] <crutchy> 'oh yeah sure i don't mind spending the next half hour chatting about stuff that i detailed in the document that i already sent you.... maybe you should... i dunno... readit?'
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[11:09:18] <crutchy> wb mattie_p :D
[11:09:48] <crutchy> ~last mattie_p
[11:10:08] <exec> last privmsg for mattie_p in #soylent: [2014-09-29 23:50:26] defenestration is a way of life, you really have to commit to it
[11:10:38] <crutchy> hmm that's not long ago. maybe i been sleep chatting :/
[11:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> better, got the links working
[11:15:16] <crutchy> journalctl enable links
[11:16:10] <chromas> crutchy: could add comment sniffing to exec so they get a rating or something in #comments
[11:17:17] <crutchy> chromas, s/comment /butt/
[11:17:17] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> crutchy: could add buttsniffing to exec so they get a rating or something in #comments
[11:17:17] <chromas> Or little flags on once likely to be flamebait or whatever
[11:17:30] <chromas> Just in time
[11:17:52] <crutchy> not sure what you mean?
[11:18:05] <crutchy> 'likely to be flamebait'
[11:18:35] <crutchy> it extracts the rating. you mean don't show it if its -1?
[11:20:07] <crutchy> it extracts the comment content too. do you mean detecting flamey keywords?
[11:20:21] <crutchy> like systemd or frosty piss
[11:20:43] <crutchy> or isheep
[11:21:24] <chromas> Yeah, then it could put a flag or number next to it based on that when it prints in #comments
[11:21:41] <crutchy> or paulej72 eats worms
[11:21:49] <chromas> Since you were mentioning a script earlier
[11:22:48] <crutchy> have a [possible moron] flag
[11:23:04] <chromas> There ya go
[11:23:31] <crutchy> or just [%%flagged_term%%]
[11:24:04] <crutchy> chromas++
[11:24:04] <Bender> karma - chromas: 40
[11:24:41] <chromas> Shove them through bogofilter and see if you can train for comment quality
[11:24:46] <crutchy> cos often the heading just has "Re: Whatever the parent typed"
[11:25:23] <crutchy> bogofilter? is that something in tama's inventory?
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[11:25:31] <chromas> It will be
[11:25:45] <chromas> Bayesian spam filter
[11:26:38] <crutchy> aw no new comments in last 30 mins
[11:27:44] * crutchy needs to figure out a way to highlight score 5 comments beetter\
[11:27:55] <crutchy> and also learn how to typer beter
[11:27:57] <crutchy> better
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[11:55:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i spose it's technically working but i did it via an ugly, ugly hack
[12:03:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll see if i can find how it's done proper later. going to clear my brain for another look at it in a bit.
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[12:07:21] <rand> coffee++
[12:07:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[12:07:28] <rand> mornin'
[12:30:43] <chromas> Is the site jacking off?
[12:31:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks to be slow at least
[12:32:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like the load balancer or possibly varnish
[12:33:58] <chromas> hey crutchy, feature suggestion. Since exec is pulling comments it could detect server masturbation and throw an alert
[12:35:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, we is broke. fluorine is up and serving but nada from outside on 80
[12:36:38] <chromas> well I got a 503 this time and then a page
[12:36:53] <chromas> Must've already been on it?
[12:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, weird
[12:37:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, nevermind. we appear copacetic.
[12:37:44] <chromas> magical_slash_fairies++
[12:37:44] <Bender> karma - magical_slash_fairies: 1
[12:37:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> magical_slash_fairies++
[12:37:52] <Bender> karma - magical_slash_fairies: 2
[12:53:29] <paulej72> ok I am here
[12:54:17] <paulej72> linode internal issu?
[12:54:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> could have been, dunno
[12:55:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> cleared up though
[12:56:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> might be worth a look at the load balancer or varnish logs but no rush on it at the moment
[13:00:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Blacklists German Journalists After Phone Bending Video - http://sylnt.us - don't-talk-about-fight-club
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[13:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nasty weather today. power's coming and going.
[13:48:45] <SirFinkus> that's always good fun
[13:50:14] <SirFinkus> the heat kicked on for the first time at my place, so stormy weather should be coming in a few weeks
[13:56:48] <SirFinkus> I love the smell when it turns on the first time
[14:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, burnt dust
[14:00:51] <Blackmoore> meanwhile here it's gone from fall weather back to indian summer.
[14:01:27] <Blackmoore> weather is as perfect as i could ask for
[14:05:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> we don't get seasons where I live
[14:06:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> just "hot and it spends SOME time raining every day" and "not so hot and it doesn't rain that often"
[14:11:52] <Blackmoore> hmph.. SUSE 12 will drop at the end of Oct.
[14:17:22] <Blackmoore> AndyTheAbsurd: that weather would drive me mad.
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[15:10:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dubious 'Internet Safety Software' that Hundreds of Police Agencies have Distributed to Families - http://sylnt.us - worse-than-failure
[15:20:17] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:20:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[15:20:19] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:20:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[15:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:23:51] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[15:47:28] <Blackmoore> http://youtu.be
[15:47:28] <monopoly> ^ 032001: A Space Odyssey - Review - YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com )
[15:51:43] <TK> I watched it yesterday
[15:51:59] <TK> Fairly accurate
[15:52:15] <TK> You really need to read the book first to understand the plot
[15:53:16] <TK> and if you have little to no interest in the science of space, you are going to be bored out of your mind during every scene when anyone is moving from one place to another
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[15:55:31] <Bytram> !uid
[15:55:31] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4763, owned by h0r1zon
[15:56:01] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:56:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[15:56:10] <Bytram> oh, why not?
[15:56:11] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:56:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[15:56:13] <Bytram> =)
[15:56:20] <Bytram> g'day eveyone.
[15:56:28] <Blackmoore> gday
[15:56:32] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:56:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[15:56:33] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:56:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[15:56:36] <Bytram> lol
[15:56:37] <ciri> hehehe
[15:56:43] <Bytram> Blackmoore: whacha up to?
[15:57:00] <Blackmoore> at work, enjoying a bit of a lul.
[15:57:24] <Bytram> nodnod
[15:57:35] <Bytram> how's your github knowledge?
[15:58:00] <ar> coffee--
[15:58:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[15:58:02] <ar> tea++
[15:58:02] <Bender> karma - tea: 61
[15:58:07] <ar> coffee--
[15:58:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[15:58:11] <Bytram> looks like I had created a branch from the master months and months ago and it is 611 commits behind. =(
[15:58:40] <Bytram> since I've made no code changes, there should (I would assume) be a simple way to get synced with the master.
[15:59:45] <Bytram> any ideas?
[16:01:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[16:01:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[16:01:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hiya!
[16:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[16:01:50] <Bytram> yup.
[16:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> git pull upstream master
[16:01:56] <Bytram> how's things?
[16:02:18] <Bytram> that sounds nice and easy except...
[16:02:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, wicked stormy right now. can't really work for the power outages.
[16:02:27] <Bytram> I only have the web interfacce.
[16:02:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hrm... dunno then.
[16:02:37] <Bytram> ~weather TheMightyBuzzard
[16:02:38] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK - currrently 79°F, scattered clouds, wind S at 15 mph, humidity 83% - Thursday thunderstorm (86°F, 50°F), Friday clear (73°F, 43°F), Saturday clear (72°F, 52°F), Sunday clear (82°F, 54°F) - source: Google
[16:02:48] <Bytram> ugh. nasty!
[16:03:19] * Bytram ponders installing github on windows
[16:03:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> bound to be some kinda client for it
[16:03:51] <Bytram> I'm sure there must be.
[16:04:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> you actually thinking of dipping your toes in again?
[16:04:06] <Bytram> yup.
[16:04:19] <Bytram> I actually have a code fix, but no way to test it.
[16:04:24] <Bytram> =)
[16:04:54] * chromas rofls at that review video, saying Under the Skin "knows when to get on with it"
[16:04:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, i'd say toss it to me but i'd just lose it when the power flickered
[16:05:10] <Bytram> no UPS?
[16:05:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> no and it would take several as spread out as i am wirelessly.
[16:05:46] <Bytram> ahh, got it.
[16:06:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> just glad i'd stopped and saved for a break before my last flicker
[16:07:18] <Bytram> well, call me crazy, but I'm gonna take a shot at sending it to you though IRC.
[16:08:42] <ar> Bytram: git pull
[16:09:13] * Bytram offers a bunch of long extension cords to TheMightyBuzzard so he can reach all his devices from a single UPS.
[16:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't appear dcc likes us
[16:09:47] <Bytram> ar: thanks for that, but I have no git client and am trying to do things through the web interface
[16:10:08] <chromas> Install linux
[16:10:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ok... canceling offered file.
[16:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, should really be doing this stuff from in a vm. save headaches.
[16:11:45] <Bytram> yup, but only have total of 1.25 GB of ram and am already swapping like crazy.
[16:12:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[16:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess you could ssh in and do it from dev if you really wanted. not good manners to tie it up for long periods though.
[16:13:30] <Bytram> 'zactly
[16:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you'd have to set up your own ~/src/slashcode-bytram folder
[16:14:17] <Blackmoore> sorry Bytram got pulled away to deal with work.. I barely understand github at the moment. I do intend to learnit
[16:14:41] <Bytram> Blackmoore: np; thanks anyway!
[16:14:50] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ck ur mail.
[16:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i'll check it when the weather clears
[16:16:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: changes are between "[% IF moderate_form %]" and matching "[% IF %]"
[16:16:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll see em with git diff
[16:16:24] <Bytram> (starts at line 115)
[16:16:39] <Bytram> assuming that what I worked against was reasonably current. :/
[16:16:53] <Bytram> I appreciate the assistance!
[16:17:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think it's changed all that much aside from me adding the story up above
[16:17:57] <Bytram> nod nod; that's good to know!
[16:18:13] <Bytram> Hope you survive the storm all right!
[16:19:17] <Bytram> afk back in a few minutes
[16:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, think i'm in for a sammich and a nap myself
[16:21:03] <exec> http://www.youtube.com
[16:30:55] <Bytram> back
[16:38:33] <crutchy> coffee++
[16:38:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[16:38:42] <crutchy> chromas++
[16:38:42] <Bender> karma - chromas: 41
[16:38:54] <crutchy> good feature suggestion
[16:39:14] <crutchy> 'server masturbation alert'
[16:40:51] <Blackmoore> ouch
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[16:41:11] <chromas> There's even a unicode icon for it: ✊
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[16:42:04] <chromas> Catchup
[16:42:08] <chromas> Salsa
[16:45:20] <Bytram> chromas: ha! I was *just* now looking for a better unicode font than the "Unifont CSUR 14" that I am currently using
[16:47:07] <chromas> I don't know which font I have going for that. I wonder if there's a way to tell
[16:47:16] <Bytram> decided to give Microsoft Arial Unicode font a try.
[16:47:30] <crutchy> or dog dirt, to indicate that the server has taken a dump
[16:47:40] <Bytram> pile-of-poo ??
[16:47:53] <chromas> mmm, pop
[16:48:02] <Bytram> goes the weasel!
[16:48:24] * Bytram waits for add/remove programs to stop thrashing his computer's hard disk.
[16:48:47] <Bytram> might as well finish making lunch... back in a few
[16:48:48] <crutchy> windaz?
[16:48:51] <Bytram> yup.
[16:48:54] <chromas> must be old windaz
[16:49:11] <chromas> Isn't it Programs and Features since 7?
[16:49:19] * crutchy can't talk. he's running debian in a vbox on windaz
[16:49:24] <chromas> or maybe vista. didn't use it long
[16:49:46] <crutchy> on lappy
[16:51:16] <Bytram> yup old win: xp
[16:51:21] <Bytram> =(
[16:51:42] <Bytram> and old lappy, too. still waiting.
[16:52:24] <chromas> Now, I'm not condoning software buttpiracy but 7 is easily available on the net and doesn't need activation or anything
[16:53:07] <Bytram> I hear ya, but that's not something I choose to do.
[16:53:21] <Bytram> afaik, all my softare is leagal.
[16:53:56] <chromas> Linux++
[16:53:56] * Bytram is still waiting, launches sudoku
[16:53:56] <Bender> karma - linux: 9
[16:59:46] <crutchy> https://github.com
[16:59:59] <crutchy> chromas, done :)
[17:00:13] <crutchy> sorry no unicodes cos they don't show for me
[17:00:58] <crutchy> ooh actually there's a better script for it
[17:01:10] <crutchy> stupid brain not working at 3am
[17:01:48] <chromas> crutchy++
[17:01:49] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 102
[17:04:07] <crutchy> comment feed runs every 30 mins
[17:04:15] <crutchy> but funding feed runs every 15 mins
[17:04:16] <crutchy> https://github.com
[17:06:15] * chromas gives a hardy (hearty?) thumbs up
[17:07:57] <crutchy> ooh forgot something critically important
[17:07:58] <crutchy> https://github.com
[17:08:49] <crutchy> bender needs to sound the alarm too
[17:09:45] <Bytram> !uid
[17:09:45] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4763, owned by h0r1zon
[17:16:33] * Bytram notes that, according to Process Explorer, explorer.exe is "not responding".
[17:16:55] * Bytram is gonna try ending task and prepares to be blown off line.
[17:17:33] <Bytram> huh! Still here.
[17:18:49] <crutchy> nah explorer.exe can be closed without too much trouble. i even have to do in in win7 to start starcraft
[17:19:08] <crutchy> just need to use task manager's run prompt to restart it if you end up with a blank screen
[17:19:36] <Bytram> my experience has been that it usually is not a problem, unless I *need* to have the system stay up >/
[17:19:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> funny; pretty sure that I didn't have to stop explorer.exe to play Starcraft in Win7. Or did you mean Starcraft II?
[17:19:52] <crutchy> broodwar
[17:20:38] <crutchy> this is the batch file that my sc icon shortcuts to:
[17:20:39] <crutchy> taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
[17:20:39] <crutchy> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Starcraft\StarCraft.exe"
[17:20:39] <crutchy> start explorer.exe
[17:20:48] <crutchy> unfortunately :/
[17:20:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think we were running that, too....we had about six people, evenly split between running it on Win7 and under WINE on Linux.
[17:21:17] <chromas> wine++
[17:21:17] <Bender> karma - wine: 2
[17:21:29] <crutchy> if i don't kill explorer sc just hangs :(
[17:21:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> !karma alcohol
[17:21:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> no karma for alcohol?
[17:22:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> alcohol++
[17:22:02] <Bender> karma - alcohol: 1
[17:22:05] <chromas> !karma alcohol
[17:22:05] <Bender> karma of alcohol is 1
[17:22:15] <Bytram> hangover++
[17:22:15] <Bender> karma - hangover: 1
[17:22:18] <Bytram> =)
[17:22:29] <crutchy> irish_coffee++
[17:22:29] <Bender> karma - irish_coffee: 1
[17:22:38] <chromas> alcohol-- # for smelling terrible
[17:22:38] <Bender> karma - alcohol: 0
[17:22:58] <crutchy> chromas, is doesn't taste that great either
[17:23:03] <crutchy> for me
[17:24:25] <crutchy> starcraft runs good on wine. i'm jealous of your lan party :-p
[17:24:59] * Bytram finally notices the MS KB article was for how to install Arial Unifont from MS Word 2002... which he does not have.
[17:25:06] <crutchy> one day i'll introduce my kids to starcraft mwahaha! though i'll prolly play coop with them for a while. i like making coop maps
[17:25:44] <crutchy> can download the ttf file?
[17:26:12] <Bytram> nope. requires the installation media or paying $hundreds
[17:26:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> Anybody here from/in the UK? http://boingboing.net
[17:26:33] * Bytram wanders over to https://code.google.com
[17:26:33] <monopoly> ^ 03noto - Fonts that support all languages/characters in Unicode - Google Project Hosting
[17:27:20] <crutchy> hmm. found this one: http://www.lgm.cl
[17:27:21] <monopoly> ^ 03GNU Unifont in TrueType format
[17:28:15] <Bytram> crutchy: thanks. I'd been using: http://unifoundry.com
[17:28:16] <monopoly> ^ 03GNU Unifont Glyphs
[17:28:31] <Bytram> which I *think* is a superset of the one you referenced.
[17:28:33] <crutchy> ooh
[17:28:56] <Bytram> unfortunately, the fonts are based on 16x16(?) bitmaps and are, umm, pretty ugly
[17:29:15] <crutchy> ah
[17:29:37] <crutchy> yeah as much as they must be bashed, ms have made some nice fonts
[17:29:44] <Bytram> I have to use them at 14pt in order to make them legible, which really chews up screen space.
[17:30:13] <crutchy> s/made/sold/
[17:30:13] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> yeah as much as they must be bashed, ms have sold some nice fonts
[17:32:20] <Bytram> yep! My favorite of the bunch is Comic Sans. ;)
[17:32:34] <blackmoore|lunch> must be nice to have a budget for someone to make fonts.
[17:32:42] blackmoore|lunch is now known as Blackmoore
[17:32:46] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[17:32:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 891
[17:32:59] <Blackmoore> rum++
[17:33:00] <Bender> karma - rum: 17
[17:33:12] * Bytram debates allowing noscript to load bunches of google JS just to get noto fonts
[17:34:49] <chromas> http://www.google.com
[17:34:56] <crutchy> http://www.microsoft.com
[17:35:00] <monopoly> ^ 03Arial Unicode MS - Version 1.01
[17:35:31] <crutchy> oh shit that's not "unifont" sorry
[17:35:41] <crutchy> damn google
[17:35:45] <chromas> you'd better be
[17:36:01] <Bytram> crutchy: that *is* unicode, but...
[17:36:29] <Bytram> if you don't have one of those packages which has it in it...
[17:36:33] <crutchy> was looking at the list of products its supplied with
[17:36:53] <Bytram> http://www.fonts.com
[17:36:54] -!- monopoly has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[17:37:06] <chromas> murderer!
[17:37:07] <crutchy> noooooooo!
[17:37:35] <Bytram> "Arial Unicode Complete Family Pack $330.00 USD"
[17:37:37] <crutchy> curl--
[17:37:38] <Bender> karma - curl: -1
[17:37:52] <Bytram> looks like monopoly CURLed up and died. :/
[17:38:08] <crutchy> does it come with free lube to prepare you for getting fucked over?
[17:38:09] <chromas> sadly, it's muh code
[17:38:13] <Bytram> chromas: thanks for the link; giving it a try...
[17:38:14] <chromas> access violation
[17:38:28] <Bytram> oh.
[17:38:52] <crutchy> chromas, s/access/anal/
[17:38:52] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> anal violation
[17:38:52] <chromas> not that an address tells me anything
[17:38:55] * Bytram looks at: http://www.fontsquirrel.com
[17:39:04] -!- monopoly [monopoly!~chromas@0::1] has joined #Soylent
[17:39:20] <Bytram> which points to: http://www.fontsquirrel.com
[17:39:55] <crutchy> bytram, i have word 2002 installed
[17:39:59] <monopoly> coffee++
[17:39:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 892
[17:41:40] <crutchy> there's an "Arial Unicode MS" font in the combo box. is that the one?
[17:42:27] <Bytram> crutchy: my laptop came with a bundled, intro version of office *something*, but even though I didn't use it, I kept get windows updates to apply to it; finally nuked it from my system. :/
[17:42:59] <Bytram> hmm noto-sans.zip is only 700 kB
[17:43:06] <Bytram> that surely cannot cover all of unicode.
[17:44:12] <crutchy> holy shit the ttf file is 23 Mb!!!!
[17:44:26] <Bytram> crutchy: which ttf file?
[17:45:11] <crutchy> arialuni.ttf
[17:45:30] <crutchy> that came with word 2002
[17:45:45] <Bytram> btw, that does not sound at all out of line -- unifont_csur-7.0.03.ttf is 12.2 MB
[17:45:46] <crutchy> or office xp or whatever its called
[17:45:57] <Bytram> crutchy: yup, sounds about right.
[17:46:39] * Bytram wishes one could set noscript choices for a single FF *tab*
[17:47:15] <crutchy> http://sylnt.us.to
[17:47:44] <crutchy> i'll leave it there till the morning
[17:48:10] <Bytram> crutchy: I appreciate the offer, but as I have nothing to document that I have a copy of one of the suporting/encompassing programs, I'll sadly have to pass.
[17:48:33] <crutchy> nod nod
[17:48:52] <Bytram> last thing we need is some dee emp see Eh? notice, yyano?
[17:49:10] <crutchy> lol ya
[17:49:11] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[17:49:28] <Bytram> I know it's late, but I thought you'd be able to soret it out. =)
[17:49:33] <crutchy> its a dead link anyway ;p
[17:49:34] <Bytram> s/soiret/sort/
[17:49:37] <Bytram> ah.
[17:50:16] <crutchy> oh are you talkin about for SN?
[17:50:39] * crutchy 's brain is trying to crank
[17:51:02] <Bytram> well, I saw the sylnt and thot it was an upload to somewhere on our servers.
[17:51:09] <Bytram> btw, I'm gonna D/L http://www.google.com
[17:51:22] <Bytram> that is *all* of the Noto fonts.
[17:51:34] <crutchy> nah that's a personal subdomain
[17:51:42] <crutchy> notice the ".to" at the end
[17:52:49] <Bytram> oh. *now* I see it.
[17:52:52] <Bytram> k
[17:53:03] <crutchy> freebie :)
[17:53:17] <Bytram> ".to country-code Tonga--Government of the Kingdom of Tonga H.R.H. Crown Prince Tupouto'a c/o Consulate of Tonga"
[17:53:21] <crutchy> i don't pay greedy dns peoples
[17:53:42] <Bytram> yup
[17:54:08] <crutchy> freedns.afraid.org << shameless plug
[17:54:27] <Bytram> well, takin a little break. thanks for the help!
[17:54:38] <Bytram> afk
[17:54:45] <crutchy> the .biz.tm is pretty popular too
[17:54:47] <crutchy> no worries
[17:54:52] <crutchy> i should try to sleep
[17:54:56] <crutchy> ~time
[17:54:56] <Bytram> lol. Cute!
[17:54:58] <exec> Friday, 3 October 2014 @ 3:54 am GMT+10 - Traralgon VIC, Australia
[17:55:05] <Bytram> nod nod and then nod off =)
[17:56:40] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[17:56:41] <monopoly> ^ 03Samsung: Unlike iPhone, our Galaxy Note 4 won't bend - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[17:56:58] * Bytram bets it can *break*, though.
[17:57:14] <Bytram> it's amazing what one can do with a little liquid nitrogen.
[17:57:21] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[17:57:45] <chromas> the main problem with the note is the sardonic hipster voiceover in the tv ad
[18:00:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crystal can Absorb all the Oxygen In A Room — and then Release it Later - http://sylnt.us - scuba-diving-without-a-tank
[18:01:35] <chromas> Can said crystal absorb the toxins in mu qi?
[18:04:16] <paulej72> Bytram|afk: what was your code fix for?
[18:06:05] <Bytram|afk> paulej72: a couple things... a capitalization error on "moderate" button at bottom of page in the "discussion_buttons" div which...
[18:06:25] <Bytram|afk> revealed a strange interaction between having mod points and being able to do deletes
[18:06:31] <Bytram|afk> paulej72: hold on...
[18:07:27] <crutchy> ~queue
[18:07:28] <Bytram|afk> here it is
[18:07:31] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 24 - http://sylnt.us
[18:08:19] <crutchy> thanks bytram, your cnet link lead me to another interesting submission lead :)
[18:08:31] <Bytram|afk> crutchy: kewel!
[18:08:56] <Bytram|afk> paulej72: are you seeing that I am offering you a copy of the file through IRC?
[18:09:07] <crutchy> oh crap. looks like someone beat me to it lol
[18:09:12] <crutchy> ah well
[18:09:14] <paulej72> it is not downloading, although I did accept it
[18:09:25] <Bytram|afk> hmmm, strange.
[18:09:34] <chromas> nat?
[18:09:40] <Bytram|afk> do you know how, with the web interface, I can get my fork of slashcode to be current?
[18:09:44] Bytram|afk is now known as Bytram
[18:09:57] <Bytram> it says I have 600+ pending changes from the main branch
[18:10:01] <chromas> rsync :D
[18:10:16] <paulej72> I do not think it is possible just with the web interface
[18:10:21] <Bytram> ugh.
[18:10:32] <crutchy> download zip :p
[18:10:35] * crutchy hides
[18:10:41] <Bytram> okay, I'll send a copy to you via e-mail
[18:10:46] <paulej72> thanks
[18:12:18] <Bytram> on its way...\
[18:12:27] <Bytram> but I'd really like to be able to put it up on github
[18:12:35] <crutchy> hmm yeah the gh doc says git fetch/merge upstream and then push back to gh
[18:12:43] * Bytram prolly needs to install some version of git on his box.
[18:12:43] <crutchy> not very web 2.0'ish of them
[18:13:07] <Bytram> oh, it's probably there, hidden in some script that I am not allowing through noscript. =)
[18:14:24] <chromas> http://www.git-scm.com
[18:14:24] <monopoly> ^ 03Git - GUI Clients
[18:14:28] <Bytram> paulej72: did you get it?
[18:14:39] <paulej72> yes
[18:15:18] <Bytram> great! I have not been able to actually *try* it, but if I understood what was there correctly, I'm thinking it's pretty close. =)
[18:15:55] * Bytram notes that his noto.zip download has completed 43MB of 141MB -- tra la la la la
[18:16:27] <crutchy> chromas, sudo apt-get install git-gui :)
[18:17:19] <crutchy> ooh, this looks like it could make for an interesting exec script... "github-cli provides an executable called ghi, that can be used to access
[18:17:19] <crutchy> all of GitHub's documented Issues API (v2) functionality from the command
[18:17:19] <crutchy> line."
[18:17:39] <chromas> Wondows doesn't has apt
[18:17:49] <Bytram> Thanks, but now I have to figure out how to install apt on windows
[18:18:03] <crutchy> wanduz
[18:18:24] <crutchy> Bytram, install gitbash
[18:18:35] <Bytram> wazzat?
[18:18:40] <chromas> Install linux
[18:18:43] <crutchy> i have it at work. gives you git and bash. awesome shit :)
[18:18:57] <Bytram> sounds like fun.
[18:19:12] <chromas> Linux will solve all your problems and make your bulge larger
[18:19:19] <Bytram> would love to, but this box is well nigh dead, and am holding out for a bit longer before I buy a new box.
[18:20:12] <crutchy> box++
[18:20:12] <Bender> karma - box: 9
[18:20:50] <crutchy> Bytram, gitbash is for wundiz
[18:21:23] <Bytram> yeah, but is complete? Want to make sure I get all the vulnerabilities with it, too! :)
[18:21:54] <crutchy> ah. yeah i'm sure it prolly is lol
[18:22:09] <Blackmoore> *headdesk*
[18:22:11] <Blackmoore> www.suse.com/support/shellshock/
[18:22:25] <Blackmoore> looks like most of novell's catalog is exposed.
[18:23:05] <chromas> Are people still writing "UNIX"?
[18:23:11] <crutchy> https://openhatch.org
[18:23:31] <Blackmoore> nah, commercially supported linux.
[18:23:34] <Bytram> Blackmoore: do you mean you did not realize it would be vulnerable?
[18:23:59] <Blackmoore> I wasnt expecting it to be in so many products.
[18:24:33] <Blackmoore> the OS - sure. it's the same bash as everyone else has
[18:24:42] <Blackmoore> but iPrint?
[18:26:00] <Blackmoore> i sell this crap. tho the guys on the Redhat desk arent faring any better
[18:26:50] <crutchy> do you advise your customers to seek shelter in a reinforced bunker?
[18:27:26] <crutchy> it's the only way to be sure
[18:29:47] <Blackmoore> to quote airplane, "they knew the risk when they bought thier ticket. I say let them crash!"
[18:30:46] <Bytram> Airplane - what a *great* movie! I literally rolled into the aisle when I saw it in the theatre I was laughing so hard.
[18:34:18] <Blackmoore> i geuss i picked the wrong day to give up smoking
[18:34:51] <Bytram> Blackmoore: From what I've read, I should not drink, smoke, or carouse with the women... So, I've decided to give up readings.
[18:36:03] <Lagg> Woo found accept-worthy submission. Now that my quota is fulfilled I shall return to whining about people whining about posts without shame
[18:37:16] <Bytram> you whine about (people whining about posts without shame) ? :^)
[18:37:31] <crutchy> why not whine about wine?
[18:37:40] <crutchy> both types of wine :p
[18:38:17] * Bytram liked a nice rose whine
[18:38:26] <Lagg> Statement applies either way!
[18:38:29] <chromas> Need a soylent monster next to the submit link. "Feed me!"
[18:39:56] <Bytram> chromas: lol!
[18:39:59] <Bytram> btw, http://rss.computerworld.com
[18:40:00] <monopoly> ^ 03New HDMI stick is first Chromecast competitor based on Firefox | Computerworld ( http://www.computerworld.com )
[18:47:38] <Bytram> paulej72: any word on how my fix worked (or not)?
[18:47:41] <paulej72> Bytram: the code is messed up, but your fix is not quite correct. I’ll fix it up and test it on dev.
[18:48:10] <crutchy> that's a nice looking dongle
[18:48:23] <Bytram> nod nod; I figured as much; did the best I could with bench checking it. sorry about any mistakes in it.
[18:48:39] <Bytram> paulej72: pls let me know when it's up there.
[18:48:53] <paulej72> will not be there until tonight
[18:49:06] <Bytram> ok, no hurry then. thanks!
[18:50:17] <Blackmoore> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[18:50:36] <Blackmoore> telegraph asking the middle class to revolt.. i never thought id see this.
[18:51:10] <crutchy> poms revolting? maybe in one sense :p
[18:51:22] <Bytram> Blackmoore: well, so long as they bathe regularly, why would they be revolting?
[18:51:25] <crutchy> they're too busy sipping tea
[18:51:29] <Bytram> =)
[18:53:02] * crutchy likes the 'billy elliot' movie. shows a bit more of the gritty aspects of life in britain (or anywhere really)
[18:53:47] <crutchy> besides 'snatch' that is. that's always no. 1
[18:53:58] <Bytram> crutchy: out of curiosity, did you submit your story as "HTML" or as "Plain old Text"?
[18:53:59] <chromas> snatch++
[18:53:59] <Bender> karma - snatch: 2
[18:54:18] <crutchy> dunno. default i guess
[18:54:50] <crutchy> i keep forgetting to pick a topic too. submissions are much too complimicated :p
[18:55:14] <Bytram> k. seems like every other submission comes through with "<br> <br>" where a "<p>" would ordinarily be -- was trying to see if there was an obvious pattern
[18:56:19] <crutchy> chromas, we need a //submit or ~submit script, yeah?
[18:56:42] <crutchy> ooh
[19:00:40] <crutchy> ~suggest community-building: free subscription to SN as prize for various activities, such as coding/bugsmashing comps, 50x+5 comments, etc (sorry not many ideas). not sure of legalities of prizes
[19:00:53] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[19:01:02] * Bytram waits for you to realize you'd be wanting to specify a subject, and formatting for multiple paragraphs, and for links and ...
[19:01:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - An Interview with the Man Whose Drone was Shot Down in New Jersey - http://sylnt.us - so-every-model-aircraft-is-now-a-drone?
[19:01:17] <crutchy> script could do that
[19:01:21] <crutchy> :)
[19:01:32] <crutchy> automagic
[19:02:02] <crutchy> ~submit <url>
[19:03:30] <chromas> suggest free subscription for doing whatever activities I happen to have done :D
[19:04:09] <Bytram> crutchy: would prefer we NOT do that; given past experiences, it would stuff our story queue with all sorts of blather and spam in no time.
[19:04:16] <crutchy> not sure how well it would do it. might be a bit too tricky maybe. not hard to clean most of the shit out of html and pock out things like subjects, match/count keywords to (try) pick topic, insert link
[19:04:28] <crutchy> but yeah might be a nuisance
[19:04:42] <crutchy> hence why i disabled commenting scripty
[19:04:53] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:06:04] <crutchy> chromas, yes that too :)
[19:06:44] <crutchy> was more thinking future organized activities. unfortunately since i mostly comment A/C i don't get many +5 comments
[19:07:44] <chromas> submissions get you two karmas I think
[19:07:51] <chromas> (accepted)
[19:08:09] <Bytram> chromas: hmmm, I thought it was 3
[19:08:28] <chromas> oh could be. more than one anyhow. Easy climb to 50
[19:08:35] <chromas> oh except for the work of submitting
[19:08:40] <crutchy> already maxed out karma. now i can just sit back and relax :p
[19:08:49] <chromas> yup
[19:09:00] * Bytram has mod points. =)
[19:09:13] <chromas> could buy soylent dollars and when I get enough then buy a subscription
[19:09:34] <chromas> 40 karmas == 1 soylent dollar
[19:10:02] <crutchy> yeah i reckon we need some game aspects to the site for community building
[19:10:35] <Bytram> crutchy: like: whack-a-troll ?
[19:10:36] <crutchy> didn't go down well with some when it was discussed a while ago. you prolly remember
[19:11:08] <chromas> trollctl start
[19:11:46] <chromas> make karma a float, then make modifiers use fractions
[19:12:14] <Bytram> afk; back in a bit
[19:12:30] <crutchy> Bytram, mobile games often have game credits that you 'earn' by doing things in the game (akin to SN karma) but also have a second tier in-game currency that is harder to aquire for free (but usully purchasable). then you can redeem the currencies for useless shit :)
[19:12:55] <crutchy> sorry prolly stating the bleeding obvious there :/
[19:14:11] <crutchy> we just need to remove karma limit and come up with useless shit that people can spend it on rather than blowing it on trolling
[19:14:22] <chromas> stock enough SDs and then I can go to the soylent store and buy me a fuck beta mug
[19:14:28] <paulej72> karma to buy mod points
[19:14:58] <crutchy> maybe 500 karma => 12 month sub
[19:15:12] <crutchy> 40 karma = 5 mod points
[19:15:18] <chromas> teach the value of saving
[19:15:33] <crutchy> 10 karma => IRC cloak
[19:16:22] <crutchy> 300 karma => 50 char text advert in footer for a day
[19:16:44] <crutchy> 600 for a week
[19:17:02] <crutchy> then make karma purchasable with real money
[19:17:35] <crutchy> would need abuse controls, but that's just code :p
[19:18:16] <crutchy> anyone with 'microsoft.com' in their email is banned from buying karma
[19:18:21] <Bytram> 1.) create some shill accounts with my friends; 2.) moderate 3.) ... 4.) Profit!
[19:18:49] <chromas> ooh, we could all do that. start guilds too
[19:18:51] <crutchy> meh. shitty moderation is already a problem. don't need to pay for it
[19:19:13] <Bytram> yeah, beware of unintended consequences.
[19:19:20] <crutchy> nod nod
[19:19:43] <chromas> should change all the mod names too
[19:19:59] <chromas> "nod nod", "smh", "wtf", "aw yeah"
[19:20:15] <crutchy> i think a lot of mod problems would go away if there were no negative mods (cos all the mod problems seem to relate to negative mods)
[19:20:34] <crutchy> chromas, s/wtf/omgwtfbbq/
[19:20:34] <SedBot9000> <crutchy> <chromas> "nod nod", "smh", "omgwtfbbq", "aw yeah"
[19:20:58] <Bytram> paulej72: I'm having some challenges in a story I have in the queue where I am using <pre><code> ... the font looks *much* smaller than the rest in my browser. http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:59] <monopoly> ^ I can't!
[19:20:59] <crutchy> just need 'flag spam' link
[19:21:04] <crutchy> hahaha
[19:21:10] <crutchy> monopoly++
[19:21:10] <Bender> karma - monopoly: 14
[19:21:21] <chromas> "o/" for brohumor comments
[19:21:24] <Bytram> looks like *each* of <pre> and <code> have font-size: .813em
[19:21:55] <Blackmoore> O.o
[19:21:56] <crutchy> and there's the ol' random space appearing in those too
[19:22:00] <Bytram> which ends up being: .813 * .813 = .661
[19:22:04] <paulej72> bytram that has been fixed in dev
[19:22:15] <paulej72> will go out this weekend
[19:22:30] * chromas wonders why inkscape always starts as a tiny box in the corner
[19:22:33] <paulej72> it is a browser issue where monospaced fonts are resized
[19:22:44] <crutchy> chromas, it likes tight
[19:23:09] <chromas> Score: 3, o/
[19:23:17] <Bytram> ah. any suggestions on what I can do for now? I tried adding a style attribute to the code element, but it got stripped, as fdar as I could tell.
[19:23:41] <crutchy> -1, nah brah
[19:23:45] <crutchy> :)
[19:23:45] <Bytram> no biggie, just annoying is all.
[19:24:02] <paulej72> don’t use pre or code :)
[19:24:21] <SirFinkus> watching the ebola press conference, this is surreal
[19:24:23] <Bytram> but it *is* code! =)
[19:24:36] <SirFinkus> it's like those fake news reports at the begining of zombie movies
[19:24:39] <paulej72> hold off on the story until Sunday
[19:24:40] <crutchy> convert all your symbolic jiggery pokery to &n; chars :p
[19:24:53] <Bytram> hmm, maybe I can get away with using *just* pre?
[19:24:58] <paulej72> Bytram: as a test try it on dev
[19:25:05] <Bytram> k
[19:25:15] <paulej72> pre and code are basically the same
[19:25:18] <crutchy> pre tags should monospace by default
[19:25:34] <paulej72> ^
[19:25:47] <paulej72> should not really nest them
[19:26:39] <Bytram> looks okay in dev's preview area
[19:26:48] <crutchy> i thought <code> was just a slash alias for <pre> anyway
[19:26:51] <crutchy> ?
[19:27:06] <crutchy> except maybe with some extra css
[19:27:07] <Bytram> nope; that is a valid HTML entity
[19:27:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> code also means don't strip out some of the stuff we normally would
[19:27:29] <Bytram> crutchy: now, ECODE -- that's a slash thing, IIRC.
[19:27:53] <chromas> crutchy: you can specify a language with code
[19:27:59] * crutchy did not realize <code> was valid html
[19:28:06] <chromas> I think. or maybe that's wiki
[19:28:10] <paulej72> as is kbd samp and tt
[19:28:15] <Bytram> hmm,, klingon?
[19:28:59] <Bytram> on prod, with just code; all the text gets dropped onto a single line; line-breaks are ignored.
[19:29:02] <paulej72> If you use the code format style in slash it puts it tt tags (tt is for teletype)
[19:29:26] * Bytram is trying it now with just "<pre>"
[19:30:12] <Bytram> okay, so now it is on multiple lines, but with font-size: .813em;
[19:30:19] <Bytram> better than it was!
[19:30:24] <Bytram> thanks!
[19:30:37] <crutchy> does it have random spaces inserted in the preview?
[19:30:52] <Bytram> no
[19:31:17] <Bytram> your submission came through with a proportional font and I just couldn't leave it like that. =)
[19:32:15] * Bytram has reached 100MB of a purported 140MB download of google's noto unicode font
[19:32:56] <crutchy> my submission?
[19:33:08] <crutchy> was it submitted plain ol' text?
[19:34:07] <paulej72> plain ol’ text is still proortional font
[19:34:19] <crutchy> hmm <code> space weirdness seems to have gone. i noticed it in my early journals
[19:34:29] <Bytram> can't tell from here. All that means, (as far as I know) is whether you can just type type and get the story in, or, if you use "HTML Formatted" you can use a (subset) of HTML directly in the submission (e.g. <p>, <a href="..">stuff</a>, etc.)
[19:35:01] <crutchy> i think i just use plain ol' text for everything prolly. i don't type any html in SN
[19:35:30] <Bytram> okay, that helps me understand what is coming my way! thanks for the info!
[19:35:42] <crutchy> shit 5.30. gotta get up in a couple of hrs. better get some shuteye
[19:37:54] <Bytram> crutchy: sleep fast, my friend.
[19:42:08] <chromas> Ooh, the comment + icon in compressed svg form is 927 bytes
[19:43:19] <Bytram> is that good? bad?
[19:43:58] <chromas> small
[19:44:09] <Bytram> oh, then it's good, then.
[19:44:14] <chromas> On high dpi displays, the icons are way tinier than the text
[19:44:25] <chromas> So I thought maybe some svgs could be of use
[19:44:40] <chromas> set them to .9em or whatever and they should be the right size at all times
[19:44:51] <Bytram> ahhh, now I get it.
[19:44:55] <Bytram> good idea!
[19:47:01] <chromas> IE does svgs now, right?
[19:47:26] <Bytram> i don't know; haven't used it in a long while.
[19:48:04] <swiss> ,win 20
[19:48:08] <swiss> hurrr
[19:48:32] <chromas> If mozilla and systemd can do it, why can't windows?
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[20:15:46] <paulej72> Bytram: your fix is now on dev. also I have removed the pre and code size setting to .813em
[20:16:03] <Bytram> paulej72: wow! that was fast!
[20:16:34] <Bytram> paulej72: I found something else, though. take a look at the story submission queue on dev
[20:17:39] <paulej72> yes html is not encoded in the title until after turning it into a story
[20:18:02] <Bytram> it gets even worse if the title starts with a </td> or a </tr>
[20:18:15] <paulej72> crap
[20:18:21] <Bytram> yup.
[20:19:24] <Bytram> I was able to put a story in the queue which started with a </tr> and I had to extract the submission ID and hand-craft a URL in order to do anything to it.
[20:19:47] <paulej72> lol
[20:20:33] <Bytram> oh, you can ONLY imagine.
[20:20:36] <paulej72> ok I’ll need to look into running the sub title through the html sanitizer
[20:20:42] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:20:56] <paulej72> should be straight forward enough
[20:21:03] <Bytram> once it gets to the editors, then it's okay to allow HTML entities in the title, we need 'em sometimes.
[20:21:59] <Bytram> does the sanitizer *remove* the html elements, or does it just replace all "<" with "<" and ">" with ">" >
[20:22:20] <Bytram> s/>$/?/
[20:22:20] <SedBot9000> <Bytram> does the sanitizer *remove* the html elements, or does it just replace all "<" with "<" and ">" with ">" ?
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[20:33:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> weren't we already doing that? something we did must've disabled it cause we sure didn't used to allow html in subjects.
[20:34:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly that we're not html-encoding everything and its dog nowadays.
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[21:04:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ah... I think you nailed it. I'll be that, previously, a story title of "This is <b>important</b>" would get changed to "<b>important</b>" -- now that we have UTF-8 support, this may have fallen through the filter cleanup.
[21:04:36] <Bytram> s/be/bet/
[21:04:36] <SedBot9000> <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ah... I think you nailed it. I'll bet that, previously, a story title of "This is <b>important</b>" would get changed to "<b>important</b>" -- now that we have UTF-8 support, this may have fallen through the filter cleanup.
[21:05:50] <Bytram> btw, I finally decided to take the plunge and am downloading the noto fonts: http://www.google.com
[21:05:50] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it was never done for submit code
[21:06:10] <Bytram> must be nearing the end (I hope!) have D/L'ed 146.6 MB so far
[21:06:43] <Bytram> paulej72: hmm, so a bug in the inherited code?
[21:08:16] <paulej72> I just now deed to find the correct strip_ sub to do what I want.
[21:08:51] <crutchy> strip_clothes?
[21:09:35] <Bytram> paulej72: do you really want to strip them out? Would it not be better to just convert them to character entities: "<" would become "<" and ">" would become ">"
[21:10:01] <paulej72> that is what the strip_ functions do.
[21:10:14] <paulej72> if you get the correct one.
[21:10:45] <Bytram> oh. that doesn't sound like "strip" to me. I'd think strip means, for example: s/[<>]//g
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[21:12:46] <paulej72> some of them do strip things, but they also replace and do other stuff
[21:15:00] <crutchy> maybe they should be clean_ functions instead of strip_ functions
[21:15:12] <crutchy> pedantic++
[21:15:12] <Bender> karma - pedantic: 1
[21:15:23] <Bytram> paulej72: seems like they originally started with a function or two that actually stripped stuff, and then came up with others that were more transformative. forgive me for being pedantic.
[21:15:26] <Bytram> =)
[21:15:31] <Bytram> crutchy: go to bed!
[21:15:52] <crutchy> time to get ready for work yay!
[21:15:59] <Bytram> lol!
[21:16:04] <Bytram> ~weather crutchy
[21:16:05] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC, Australia - currrently 51°F, overcast, wind W at 9 mph, humidity 94% - Friday chance of rain (66°F, 43°F), Saturday partly cloudy (75°F, 52°F), Sunday partly cloudy (70°F, 45°F), Monday chance of rain (70°F, 52°F) - source: Google
[21:16:43] <Bytram> crutchy: looks like things are slowly warming up at your end of the world.
[21:16:51] * Bytram needs a nap.
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[22:04:23] <Blackmoore> Gnight all
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[22:15:13] <chromas> Shortened_urls_with_punctuation--
[22:15:13] <Bender> karma - shortened_urls_with_punctuation: -1
[22:24:13] <paulej72> OK got titles fixed on dev I think
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[22:58:52] <paulej72> too quiet here
[23:04:20] * juggs whacks paulej72 with a tumbleweed
[23:07:29] <paulej72> ow them tumble weeds are sharp
[23:08:08] <juggs> for sure
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