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[23:23:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[22:05:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm out for a bit. Fixin food n eatin it n cleanin up after it n such.
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[22:02:47] <paulej72> I was going to fix it at some point, but since TK brought it up I decided to look into it. It is really simple fix
[22:02:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's how mine normally looks. i can read it okay.
[22:01:40] <chromas> I noticed the small monospace font; assumed my settings were broken
[22:00:23] <paulej72> http://code.stephenmorley.org
[21:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> or $mob->write if you're feeling oopy
[21:57:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> print STDOUT
[21:56:16] <chromas> well regex is for reading mobs. How do you write?
[21:56:06] <chromas> huh
[21:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> could very well be. there's an entire nother language built in game for talking to mobs.
[21:55:30] <chromas> string
[21:55:29] <chromas> or if there's not enough room, switch to playing a sting
[21:55:14] <chromas> Maybe it should be part of your character
[21:54:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now ain't anyone in game to be out of character around. i could start spouting perl and nobody'd care.
[21:54:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> irc's a whole nother world
[21:53:45] <chromas> But wait; you're not in character. Tattle! Tattle!
[21:53:29] <chromas> at least once
[21:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i slept since then
[21:53:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly lol
[21:53:07] <chromas> Also, then it was you who let me into the 'secret' testing
[21:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> thanks, i stole it.
[21:52:50] <chromas> Ah. Cool name, though
[21:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it got confusing having two nicks one for the site and one for the channel. is my default nick in most irc though.
[21:51:33] <chromas> Wondered what happened to him
[21:50:59] <chromas> Same as the one from ##altslashdot on freenode?
[21:50:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, super-sleuth
[21:50:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya, that'd be my dingus
[21:49:55] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: Ashbentiel?
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[21:44:17] <paulej72> TK: it is the code comment style that sets the tt tags. I think there is an issue in the css that sets the size too small. It is currently set for 11px but should be 13. I dig up the issue and fix.
[21:41:53] <paulej72> TK: the use of tt tags might be slash doing the code style. Also a simple css fix to the tt tag to set the monospace font to something sane might help as well. I’ll look into it.
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[21:21:59] <TK> I'll give it a shot in the morning
[21:21:03] <TK> I've never used Stylish
[21:20:27] <TK> Similar amount of effort?
[21:19:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh wait, stylish can take care of that with a little css
[21:19:23] <TK> But that's about all I can say
[21:19:08] <TK> Yeah, I tried looking up some basics this morning, it seems possible
[21:17:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea in js which is what you'd need
[21:16:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> TK, take about thirty seconds in perl
[21:13:45] <TK> but I'm not a programmer/dev/code monkey
[21:13:07] <TK> If it's not that bad, I'll give it a try myself
[21:12:43] <TK> I was just wondering how long it would take someone to write something that strips the <tt> tags out of a page
[21:12:13] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question TK
[21:12:12] <TK> Where it's written in monospace font that shows up much smaller than everything else
[21:11:50] <monopoly> ^ 04SN comment by Arik (4543)
[21:11:50] <TK> I keep getting annoyed with comments like this one http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:56] <TK> Any greasemonkey script writers in here?
[21:02:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Will Stop Supporting Climate Change Science Deniers, Calls Them Liars - http://sylnt.us - trying-not-to-be-evil?
[21:01:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 837
[21:01:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[20:49:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 836
[20:49:32] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:33:51] <Landon> I'm not sure why they still sell vanilla Mount & Blade, it's strictly a subset of warband
[20:33:40] <Landon> that's the best one
[20:33:38] <Landon> great :) you're set
[20:33:35] <Landon> oh, I see indeed
[20:33:14] <Landon> n1: Warband?
[20:30:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> well aside from profession
[20:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> everyone's human unless they decide not to be but the toons are all the same.
[20:23:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> none, gatekeeper. unique mythos.
[20:22:57] <paulej72> race and profession?
[20:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> what me? dude name of Ashbentiel. Wacky wiseass and spreader of mayhem.
[20:21:53] <paulej72> what character do you play
[20:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> like larp without having to leave your couch
[20:21:43] <n1> im going to give mount&blade a go now... which also has been available on linux for the last couple months
[20:21:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, only one i ever found actually requires you to be in character
[20:20:19] <n1> thats pretty brutal but cool also
[20:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, outside person to person messages
[20:19:52] <n1> for breaking character in text chat?
[20:19:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> long n short of it is you a) can't advance past level 9 out or 100 without doing so and b) will get banned if you keep it up.
[20:18:18] <n1> how so?
[20:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm playin a `98 era mmorpg, stress on the RP as in it's required you stay in character.
[20:16:19] <n1> steam wants to charge me £60 for all of that
[20:15:56] <n1> (deluxe edition farcry 3)
[20:15:23] <n1> i just picked up mount & blade: warband + napoleonic wars, farcry3 on humblestore for £8.57 or something.
[20:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, i should play some games
[20:11:40] <n1> damn humblestore and steam getting me to buy games when they make them so damn cheap
[20:11:24] <n1> well that's helpful!
[20:11:14] <Blackmoore> not i sir
[19:57:39] <n1> anyone have experience with playing Mount & Blade: Warband?
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[19:21:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Missing Party Speeches, Now Online Again - http://sylnt.us - internet-never-forgets
[19:21:28] <Blackmoore> Ford Prefect? is that you?
[19:08:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's good that we have someone to make them or i'd have to
[19:06:24] <idetuxs> :D just making obvious statements haha
[19:05:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, good then
[19:05:27] <idetuxs> never
[19:05:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> was there doubt?
[19:04:31] <n1> !
[18:58:51] <idetuxs> SN lives
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[16:37:25] <n1> yeah
[16:37:21] <mrcoolbp> the regular poll is still there, it didn't ovveride, it just makes that poll appear "in" the story
[16:37:11] <n1> i would have assumed it would have appeared underneath or be embedded in the story
[16:36:47] <mrcoolbp> n1, hmm that's interesting
[16:35:29] <mrcoolbp> lemme check
[16:35:25] <n1> but its not obvious at first as the poll is in the normal place
[16:35:14] <n1> seems to work, mrcoolbp
[16:34:15] <Blackmoore> we arent going to help with the base of the process; but we will help to spread the workload
[16:33:42] <Blackmoore> I think we can work on th OC project and help with editing.
[16:27:48] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[16:27:33] <n1> will give it a go
[16:27:11] <mrcoolbp> might have to click "New" instead of using a submission
[16:26:53] <mrcoolbp> I don't think we've ever done that
[16:26:47] <mrcoolbp> n1: can you post a story to dev and attach it to a poll so we can see how that works?
[16:26:20] <n1> I often make a few quick googles checking when something doesn't feel right about the submission
[16:25:28] <mrcoolbp> I plan on integrating that into the docs sometime this week
[16:24:54] <mrcoolbp> One must quote or otherwise attribute where the content is coming from
[16:24:05] <mrcoolbp> he has a lot of submissions (~75), and most of them accepted (~85%), but we cannot condone this practice.
[16:22:57] <mrcoolbp> I reached out to him
[16:20:42] <n1> i'm sure it's not the first time that's happened from kaszz
[16:19:39] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Why You Can't Manufacture Like Apple 04(17 comments)
[16:19:36] <mrcoolbp> http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:53] <n1> whats going on with mr pickens?
[16:16:32] <mrcoolbp> n1: exactly
[16:16:18] <mrcoolbp> cool, just got a reply from Hugh Pickens
[16:15:16] <n1> I'd like to work on some O.C too, but trying to keep submissions rolling generally distracts from writing anything.
[16:14:20] <n1> I agree with mrcoolbp.
[16:14:15] <mrcoolbp> and it's tough to be great when everyone is strapped for time / person-power
[16:13:48] <mrcoolbp> but if our base editorial practice isn't great, there's seems to be little point to try to expand/innovate etc
[16:12:48] <mrcoolbp> y'all can still develop the O.C. plan, or other cool editorial niceties in the background
[16:12:24] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore, I think I agree that yourself and dopefish would be more useful just helping out the editor team at present
[16:09:50] <n1> i think he's just too drunk the rest of the time.
[16:09:27] <n1> he puts some effort in with his trolling comments, which is something
[16:08:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's consistent like that
[16:05:11] <Blackmoore> but Ethanol-fueled? cripes.. he trolls even in the chat room
[16:04:29] <Blackmoore> i cant say i read at -1. i dont have time for it
[16:03:58] <Blackmoore> and AC is part of the "tradition" of /. that we want to preserve. (sadly trolls and all)
[16:02:15] <n1> ethanol-fueled is a self-proclaimed troll, so he wouldn't.
[16:01:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Power Blackouts in Europe? - http://sylnt.us - power-to-the-people
[15:56:27] <_NSAKEY> Ethanol-fueld just doesn't care.
[15:56:18] <_NSAKEY> I named that story because it's proof that even banning ACs wouldn't stop the flaming and trolling.
[15:54:49] <n1> as much as i'd like to see the end of trolling and flaming, the only thing we can do is rely on the moderation system and the community to put those comments where they belong.
[15:53:43] <n1> at least they are getting -1
[15:50:18] <_NSAKEY> Lots of -1 posts in that one.
[15:50:07] <_NSAKEY> The Thailand/1984 story is a fine example.
[15:48:40] <_NSAKEY> Blackmoore: Browsing at -1 is getting bad.
[15:48:30] <Blackmoore> and that's an unfortunate sing of sucess.
[15:48:15] <Blackmoore> _NSAKEY: i think that's inevitable; it depends on the articles that we pop, and we seem to be getting more trolls.
[15:47:49] <n1> they seem to get moderated down though
[15:47:41] <n1> i have noticed more comments heading down that road
[15:47:08] <n1> :(
[15:46:39] <_NSAKEY> n1: The fact that it seems like SN has been a flamefest lately doesn't help matters much.
[15:45:36] <n1> if a couple of us have busy days or other obligations on the same day, makes things a bit more difficult to keep up with
[15:44:40] <n1> any help is much appreciated, the editing is a 24/7 thing to keep ontop of, sometimes we're running nicely ahead, other times there are no stories in the queue
[15:42:54] <Blackmoore> I was talking with dopefish a week or so ago and was thinking the editing team was gonna need some help. I have to get through the style docs still.
[15:41:57] <Blackmoore> geh. yeah. I get that alright.
[15:36:44] <n1> Blackmoore, i know how that goes (life takes over for a few days) - but last night the queue was looking low so i put in some submissions, which i don't enjoy doing after just finishing editing a few other ones.
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[15:34:07] <Blackmoore> eh, I've been lax in submitting too. too busy at work.
[15:31:59] <n1> maybe too much excitement about bombing syria
[15:31:15] <n1> it feels like slow news days to me, so far this week
[15:31:08] <n1> indeed
[15:29:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately neither is the quality of the news
[15:21:46] <n1> and the quality of submissions (subjectively) are not consistent
[15:19:28] <n1> i would be if i didn't make 5 submissions last night.
[15:18:53] <Blackmoore> any one else happy to see the submission queue has been kept pretty full lately?
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[14:22:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Linguistics of Lolspeak - http://sylnt.us - watts-in-a-whirred?
[14:07:55] <Blackmoore> sounds like you need to give it a rest and get back to it later
[14:07:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't abnormal but it does mean i need to stop typing and start stretching
[14:07:22] <Blackmoore> that aint good.
[13:59:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout to give it up for lent or something, losing feeling in my fingers.
[13:58:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> poorly today
[13:58:03] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[13:58:03] <Blackmoore> how goes the fight with the code TheMightyBuzzard ?
[13:57:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 835
[13:57:47] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[13:57:42] <Blackmoore> mornin
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[13:53:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 834
[13:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:40:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 833
[13:40:57] <Blackmoore> coffee++
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[12:48:35] <prospectacle> stop enhancing audio it's perfectly good!
[12:48:27] <prospectacle> the other week it was soundblaster audio enhancements screwing up my system
[12:48:02] <prospectacle> ah ha! it was stupid dolby audio "enchancements" that was the culprit.
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[12:40:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 832
[12:40:58] <crutchy> coffee++
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[12:35:16] <chromas> kind of the same thing at the moment
[12:35:02] <Bender> karma - uselessd: 1
[12:35:02] <ar> uselessd++
[12:34:48] <Bender> karma - systemd: -5
[12:34:47] <ar> systemd--
[12:34:28] <Bender> karma - systemd: -4
[12:34:28] <systemd> systemD++
[12:34:18] <Bender> karma - (spinning rust): -1
[12:34:18] <ar> (spinning rust)--
[12:34:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 831
[12:34:06] <ar> coffee--
[12:15:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 832
[12:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:10:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 831
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[12:10:02] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:06:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 830
[12:06:39] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:55:21] <prospectacle> i hope so
[11:55:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> go ahead n dismiss em. maybe it'll get em to upgrade
[11:54:35] <prospectacle> but it's almost always ie that's hardest to support
[11:53:45] <prospectacle> ie is a big chunk of users, best not to dismiss them completely if possible
[11:53:16] <prospectacle> yeah I guess I could do that. I'll test one a few more computers with 11 to make sure.
[11:53:02] <prospectacle> maybe i'll test for ogg support and say "Sorry your browser doens't suppor the audio features used, etc." It's not nice but it's better than screwing up their audio completely until they restart it.
[11:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> simple then, don't support < 11
[11:51:19] <prospectacle> I'd be afraid to let ie users play my game now, I might break their sound completely. Although 11 seems ok.
[11:50:19] <prospectacle> makes sense
[11:50:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i blame canada
[11:50:02] <prospectacle> these are the real problems. It's just a coincidence these are also the two browsers that don't support ogg
[11:49:43] <prospectacle> safari doesn't play the sound immediately, ruining the effect
[11:49:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[11:49:25] <prospectacle> the problems still remain. ie9 will play some mp3s, but if there's a lot of them (even small ones) it breaks my systems audio completely, even for other applications afterwards
[11:48:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> never let politics get in the way of getting shat done
[11:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> mp3 then like the rest of the world
[11:47:28] <prospectacle> well I say tune, it's just a sound effect
[11:47:07] <prospectacle> ie9 and safari (on windows at least) fail this test
[11:46:55] <prospectacle> well I care that I can encode a tune in such a way the browser can play it as a result of a javascript event, and without delay.
[11:45:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah but who cares if they support ogg vorbis. nobody uses it to encode tunes.
[11:44:43] <prospectacle> proving conclusively that browsers which support ogg vorbis are better
[11:44:34] <prospectacle> coincidentally these are the two browsers that don't support ogg vorbis
[11:44:23] <prospectacle> safari has a noticeable delay between .play()ing an audio element and it actually playing
[11:34:13] <prospectacle> classy
[11:33:59] <prospectacle> in ie9 if I have lots of audio elements on one page it ruins my audio playback system wide and I have to restart it. Stay class, microsoft
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[11:29:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> or enabling the dynamic rss
[11:29:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> trying to decide how i feel about just serving up all rss links as https
[11:25:12] <crutchy> science should be less about theories of the origins of the universe and more about the practical scientific method
[11:24:22] <crutchy> scientists have been getting a bad wrap due to all the religious kooks that spout their bullshit in the name of science
[11:23:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> feeds one i can have a look at.
[11:22:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> login/cookie one of yours is a varnish issue and i can't reproduce it to see if i've fixed it cause don't have varnish on the vm or dev
[11:21:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Seen as Competent but Not Trusted by Americans - http://sylnt.us - who-CAN-you-trust?
[11:21:07] <crutchy> gnu/toejam
[11:20:35] <crutchy> soyslash or soycode or gnu/soylent
[11:19:44] <crutchy> or could update the authors file, or give the whole codebase a new name (brought that up earlier)
[11:18:58] * crutchy wonders if you can group issues together
[11:18:46] <crutchy> there's also a couple of UTF-related ones
[11:17:56] <crutchy> might be worth checking all the feeds actually
[11:17:10] <crutchy> or 325 looks pretty easy
[11:16:50] <crutchy> mkay. i was thinking maybe all the login and cookie related ones (288,216,124)
[11:16:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, someone already fixed that
[11:14:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nevermind, i know the one i want to die
[11:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, crutchy. i fixed 219 pending pj's approval. what's next?
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[11:03:32] <crutchy> wow if a galaxy s6 looks anything like this i might have a squiz: http://galaxys6samsung.com
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[10:53:20] <crutchy> for cooling of course :)
[10:53:14] <crutchy> i guess i could try sealing the door shut and filling the room up with water
[10:52:21] <crutchy> yeah it gets pretty bad in summer
[10:52:17] <Popeidol> feature, not bug
[10:52:09] <Popeidol> free office sauna I guess
[10:52:04] <chromas> they like it when you blow
[10:52:00] <chromas> you just have to blow really hard
[10:51:49] <crutchy> no window
[10:51:49] <Popeidol> they probably just meant for you to open a window
[10:51:40] <Popeidol> did they give you a window?
[10:51:23] <chromas> put water cooling in all the servers
[10:50:49] <crutchy> need more cooling in our server room. the genius architects designed a server room without A/C... saves space and power and everything. enironment man!
[10:47:38] <Popeidol> now everything at least goes in the server room even if it's under a pile of cardboard boxes
[10:46:17] <Popeidol> it took me so fucking long to find that thing
[10:46:13] <Popeidol> wedged underneath a desk and behind some shelves
[10:46:06] <Popeidol> when I started at my current job, the almost-retired main client database was running on XP on an old desktop
[10:46:01] <crutchy> still waiting for new servers and rack hardware
[10:45:10] <crutchy> there's plenty of room in the rack but we runded out of shelves
[10:44:49] <crutchy> i have a server just sitting on a random desk in the office
[10:44:24] <Popeidol> I initially wrote it as 'my rack should soon look a lot better'
[10:44:01] <crutchy> ooh you have racks at work? its really hard to find chicks that wanna be engineers :(
[10:43:14] <Popeidol> so the racks at work should be looking much more stylish soon
[10:43:13] <crutchy> this would be a cool looking phone, even if it had a rotten apple on it: http://www.ijailbreak.com
[10:42:40] <Popeidol> and apparently they come with free reduced bezel
[10:42:27] <Popeidol> I was using the web configuation tool for dell servers today
[10:42:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> my grammer used to wear a bezzle
[10:42:12] <silverly> they are good, but so expensive!
[10:41:14] * crutchy is surprised they still have a bezzle
[10:41:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame you can't root em and install android
[10:40:57] <SedBot9000> <chromas> fingerbang
[10:40:57] <chromas> s/flip/bang/
[10:40:48] <prospectacle> guy at work has one. I would never buy an iphone while they're so crippled by design but damned if they're not sleek
[10:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, chromas knows how it is
[10:40:30] <crutchy> i gots a big rubbery case for mine. was a ripoff but it works good
[10:40:15] <chromas> fingerflip
[10:40:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> should put grip tape on them like on skateboards
[10:39:59] <crutchy> no saphire screen apparently
[10:39:57] <Bender> karma - ciri: 7
[10:39:57] <prospectacle> ciri--
[10:39:49] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[10:39:49] <crutchy> lol
[10:39:43] <prospectacle> that's why they sold so many, made them extra slippery
[10:39:27] <crutchy> hopefully not too many got dropped
[10:39:25] <Bender> karma - sammich_that_tastes_like_a_phone: -1
[10:39:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sammich_that_tastes_like_a_phone--
[10:39:09] <prospectacle> ars reckons they sold more iphone 6 (and six+) already than they did 5s last year
[10:38:59] <silverly> haha
[10:38:51] <Bender> karma - phone_that_tastes_like_a_sammich: 1
[10:38:51] <crutchy> phone_that_tastes_like_a_sammich++
[10:38:18] <Bender> karma - sammich: 4
[10:38:18] <silverly> sammich++
[10:38:18] <Bender> karma - sammich_phone: 1
[10:38:18] <crutchy> sammich_phone++
[10:38:03] <Bender> karma - sammich: 3
[10:38:03] <crutchy> sammich++
[10:37:54] <Bender> karma - sammich: 2
[10:37:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> sammich++
[10:37:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> sandwich > phone
[10:37:35] <crutchy> hmm looks like its 4.3" screen
[10:37:25] <crutchy> my lappy is for that :)
[10:37:12] <silverly> but honestly, i like reading on them its nicer
[10:36:56] <silverly> its like holding a small sandwich
[10:36:43] <silverly> you need to embrace these 4-6" phones
[10:36:22] <silverly> oh man
[10:36:09] <crutchy> i got a s4 mini cos the s2 screen was too big
[10:35:33] <silverly> this is only 5.5"
[10:35:19] <silverly> my last phone was galaxy note 1, which was 5"
[10:35:06] <silverly> LOL
[10:34:55] <crutchy> fuck me drunk over a barstool sideways tyrone... that looks like a phablet
[10:32:53] <crutchy> will still be external event handler for everything else
[10:32:41] <crutchy> just for user tracking
[10:32:24] * crutchy has decided to create an irc event handler inside exec's main process cos putting it outside is too hard
[10:31:55] <silverly> its redic
[10:31:46] <silverly> im not paying 1 grand for a phone
[10:31:34] <silverly> haha, not quite crutchy, one plus one (the stock android one)
[10:31:02] <crutchy> silverly, a iphone sex?
[10:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i'll look into it
[10:29:59] <silverly> *has
[10:29:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> was looking at that myself
[10:29:56] * silverly ask a new phone toy thing
[10:29:28] <crutchy> maybe 219
[10:25:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't make me hurt you
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[10:24:35] <crutchy> #277 ;-p
[10:23:54] <monopoly> ^ 03Issues · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[10:23:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[10:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, crutchy, pick me a bug off the issue tracker that i can do in under a week.
[10:14:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 829
[10:14:10] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:11:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 828
[10:11:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:06:51] <prospectacle> trollcode+
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[09:48:10] <crutchy> maybe soycode
[09:47:58] <crutchy> need a new name for slash
[09:43:41] <Bender> karma - karma: 19
[09:43:41] <Konomi> karma++
[09:41:40] <Bender> karma - karmaping: 1
[09:41:40] <prospectacle> karmaping++
[09:41:37] <prospectacle> the karma ping
[09:41:35] <prospectacle> good idea
[09:40:38] <crutchy> the ping-o-coffee
[09:40:01] <crutchy> makes a good ping test when you're diagnosing a wireless network problem
[09:39:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[09:39:22] <crutchy> coffee++
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[09:30:49] <JamesNZ> Nah, I'll run off to Midian, no one'll find me there.
[09:29:53] <Popeidol> surely we should be putting it back the way it was to hide the murder weapon
[09:28:49] <JamesNZ> We decrement coffee like there's no tomorrow! :P
[09:28:35] <Popeidol> nobody can ever know
[09:28:20] <Popeidol> oh god what do we do
[09:27:28] <chromas> you killed him!
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[09:26:05] * JamesNZ hides from the wrath of crutchy
[09:25:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 826
[09:25:58] <SedBot9000> coffee++ # for even moar justice!
[09:25:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 825
[09:25:50] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[09:25:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 826
[09:25:49] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[09:25:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[09:25:48] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[09:25:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 828
[09:25:47] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[09:25:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 829
[09:25:46] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[09:24:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 830
[09:24:50] <systemd> coffee++ # for great justice!
[09:24:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 829
[09:24:43] <monopoly> coffee++ # for great justice!
[09:24:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 828
[09:24:34] <chromas> coffee++ # for great justice!
[09:22:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[09:22:24] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:12:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Europe Would Look Like if all the Separatists Won - http://sylnt.us - drawing-between-the-lines
[09:09:02] <Bender> karma - slapfight: 1
[09:09:02] <chromas> slapfight++
[09:06:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 826
[09:06:30] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[09:05:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[09:05:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:33:21] <crutchy> gopeh
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[08:32:13] <crutchy> i remember when a r was going to try to keep it at 666, but the coffee++ force is strong
[08:30:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 826
[08:30:43] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:04:02] <monopoly> meanie
[07:59:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 825
[07:59:10] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[07:59:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 826
[07:59:09] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[07:59:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 827
[07:59:09] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[07:59:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 828
[07:59:08] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[07:40:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 829
[07:40:57] <crutchy> coffee++
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[07:20:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Spoon Could Help Improve the Lives of People with Parkinson's - http://sylnt.us - useful-technologies-for-more-normal-lives
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[06:33:55] <chromas> looks like several are python. Not sure about Loggie because he's the Timmy of the bots
[06:33:21] <JamesNZ> Ah. I might do a CL bot one day, but probably not Java.
[06:32:08] <chromas> and a bash one hiding out somewhere
[06:31:59] <chromas> We've got php, python, pascal and c
[06:28:31] <JamesNZ> Really? O_o
[06:27:48] <chromas> one for each language
[06:27:39] <JamesNZ> Why?
[06:26:05] <chromas> We do happen to need a Java bot
[06:25:13] * JamesNZ hides behind Java
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[06:01:41] <juggs> That should do
[06:01:31] * juggs hides behind ciri
[06:00:12] <juggs> wait that can't be right
[06:00:11] * systemd hides behind juggs
[05:59:36] * juggs hides behind chromas
[05:59:18] * chromas hides behind systemd
[05:58:54] <juggs> chromas, you have no idea how I can wield this :D muahahahahhahah
[05:57:58] * juggs gains Idiocracy
[05:56:47] <chromas> You know what sucks? Those basin sinks in bathrooms
[05:56:24] <pbnjoe> juggs, who drinks from the sink? Normal people drink from a cup ;)
[05:55:58] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3brawndo: it's like shaving your chest with a lawnmower! that sounds dangerous, but it's not more dangerous than drinking BRAWNDO because drinking BRAWNDO is like riding a pony, which probably sounds no...
[05:55:57] <chromas> ~define brawndo
[05:55:39] <chromas> we need a giving bot
[05:55:35] <chromas> !give juggs Idiocracy
[05:54:45] <juggs> chromas - in my place water in the bog comes from the same place as water as the kitchen sink. I bleach the bog everyday, the sink, not so often..... now where would you rather drink from? Conditioning 101.
[05:51:26] <juggs> LIGHT! this is what plants crave
[05:50:03] <chromas> juggs: you're not still drinking water, are you? Like out the toilet?
[05:48:47] <Konomi> it's got what plants crave
[05:48:42] <Konomi> hint
[05:47:23] <juggs> I'd issue thanks mebbe if I knew what that was, but I don't so "meh" or whatever is current parlance for a shrug.
[05:43:01] * Konomi gives juggs some Brawndo
[05:42:54] <chromas> don't click on it :D
[05:42:34] * juggs finds a comfy chair to comatose in
[05:41:27] <Konomi> I'd buy that for a dollar
[05:41:26] <chromas> we should invent the p2p cloud
[05:41:03] <chromas> so it's totally evil
[05:40:47] <chromas> it's a chrome extension
[05:40:32] <chromas> you don't lick anything, do you?
[05:40:15] <juggs> ya - not clickying
[05:39:06] <Konomi> https://chrome.google.com
[05:38:30] <juggs> in a hypervisor perhaps - oh wait did we go back to hating centralised computing and shared resources or did the cloud die and someone dream up a new way of selling us old as new.
[05:34:10] <Konomi> I was going to ask if it ran on linux
[05:34:05] <Konomi> shame there's no feedback/contact info
[05:33:57] <Konomi> Subject: Don't leave planning for Windows Server 2003 End of Support until its too late!
[05:33:45] <Konomi> hmm
[05:32:59] <Konomi> also idk about all GNU projects but nano at least fixed my bug so fast compared to any of my other bug reports on other projects
[05:31:54] <Konomi> must abstract all the things
[05:30:40] <Konomi> "Why I hope to be an android at 75"
[05:30:32] <JamesNZ> juggs: Heh.
[05:25:55] <Konomi> I'll be over here focusing on the code ;p
[05:24:42] <juggs> JamesNZ, I sincerely doubt Konomi gives a shit what I think or find. As to their being "cute" - feck knows, isn't that something puppies do??
[05:22:54] <Konomi> at least I hope so ._.
[05:22:41] <Konomi> hmm seems I fixed the slow down issue on my functions
[05:22:25] * Konomi whines
[05:21:29] <juggs> I see no mention of capability Konomi
[05:21:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NIH Bioethicist: "Why I Hope to Die at 75" - http://sylnt.us - but-what-dreams-may-come-when-I-have-shuffled-off-this-mortal-coil?
[05:21:03] <chromas> it's because of the i; makes your evil diminutive
[05:20:50] <Konomi> lies I am totally capable
[05:20:49] * JamesNZ deduces that juggs finds Konomi cute!
[05:20:22] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3ebil: 1) Plesantly or cutely evil. 2) Slighly Evil But without malicious intent.
[05:20:20] <JamesNZ> ~define ebil
[05:20:15] <Konomi> +.+
[05:20:08] * juggs decides Konomi is ebil
[05:19:37] * JamesNZ bows humbly at the nomination
[05:19:23] <Konomi> hehe
[05:19:09] <juggs> Konomi, I have a cheat sheet stowed away for power management and suspend crap on my laptop - paste this into X and add that in there. I suspect it will all be blown away once systemd lands with me. The fragmentation, it makes me sad. Perhaps I'll code systemd-pm-utild. No I won't as I have no idea where to start.
[05:19:07] * chromas nominates JamesNZ as the Bender wrangler
[05:18:45] <chromas> aw
[05:18:27] <JamesNZ> chromas: Nah, I ran out of time so I gave up and brute forced it.
[05:16:02] <chromas> JamesNZ: did you get the code figured out?
[05:14:14] <Konomi> my netbook went from 4 hours battery life to 7 from writing that code
[05:13:38] <exec> * chromas prematurely postulates a tinfoil hat of spew towards JamesNZ
[05:13:37] <chromas> ~g'day JamesNZ
[05:12:44] <Konomi> juggs: my replacement for pm-utils under systemd
[05:12:24] <exec> * JamesNZ fanatically throws a bathtub of pancakes at chromas
[05:12:23] <JamesNZ> ~gday chromas
[05:12:14] * juggs pokes Konomi - inserts another coin... still doesn't work. Wait what is this frustration dump of code supposed to do?
[05:12:11] <chromas> ofcode is secretly getting you to write all the code they need
[05:09:04] <Konomi> don't work? Fix it yourself >.<
[05:08:57] <monopoly> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[05:08:57] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
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[04:09:55] <juggs> the lows are unavoidable - might as well throw in some highs
[04:03:36] <chromas> who says it has to be devoid of lows? :)
[03:57:45] <juggs> ical existence that is completely grey and devoid of highs and lows. We choose our own particular path on this one, I'm just stating my position, I don't encourage anyone to follow my path.
[03:57:45] <juggs> Not at all Leebert. It was just a dig at western society's distinct lack of end of life care. Until that is sorted, personally I'd rather not rot away in a death home. I'd rather do something risky earlier and maybe peg out sooner. It's a personal choice of course - but I'm just not convinced I want to live to 100 if I'm a drooling incontinent oaf for the last 20% of that time. Better in my mind to live a full shorter life than eek out some puritan
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[03:44:53] <Leebert> By that standard, I probably should go commit suicide now. :)
[03:42:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Gets Flack over "Rubbish" UK Data - http://sylnt.us - blame-game
[03:40:27] <juggs> Na, gotta go sometime - for me it would be preferable to do that in some insta-splodge death event than trickling out a decade or more of near death care home crud incapable of basic hygiene and generally losing marbles.
[03:33:18] <Leebert> Safety first, ya know.
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[03:30:51] <juggs> I'll bear that in mind Leebert - at least, I will next time I have a Tesla coil and a movie worth watching in temporal juxtaposition.
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[03:27:07] <Leebert> juggs: Yes. It is usually best to disable your Tesla coil prior to settling down for movie night.
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[02:51:11] <juggs> My reverse find says Warzone 2100.
[02:50:06] <SpallsHurgenson> is that anything like battlezone?
[02:49:44] <silverly> neat
[02:48:54] <juggs> think it's warzone something or other
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[02:47:05] <silverly> games o.O
[02:46:31] * silverly back from lonch
[02:41:17] <juggs> I have no idea what it is
[02:40:46] <SpallsHurgenson> why do I hear that in a diabolic voice?
[02:39:58] * Subsentient wants players
[02:39:53] <aqu4> End of games list.
[02:39:52] <aqu4> [Game 3] Name: Harley | Map: deathvalley-T1 | Host: Dr Death | Players: 3/4 (private) | IP: 98.248.243.84 | Version: 3.1.1
[02:39:51] <aqu4> [Game 2] Name: This is real NTW | Map: NTWFor4-v3-T1 | Host: Subsentient | Players: 2/4 | IP: 216.161.165.96 | Version: 3.1.1
[02:39:51] <aqu4> [Game 1] Name: 3v3 | Map: NTW3v3_NoArty2-T1 | Host: NeoVortex Lv4 | Players: 4/6 | IP: 189.69.67.231 | Version: 3.1.1
[02:39:50] <Subsentient> $wz
[02:21:08] <SpallsHurgenson> well, it worked for Frankenstein
[02:19:40] <juggs> perhaps that's the problem with your GPU - needs impaling with a copper stake
[02:17:00] <SpallsHurgenson> just jam a big copper rod into his motherboard, turn on the PC and all his LED lightning problems will be over :)
[02:16:56] <juggs> clearly not a native english speaker and I in no way intend to mock that, it's more the comedic impact of their accidental substitution of "lightning" made me imagine funny scenarios.
[02:15:21] <SpallsHurgenson> dunno about disabling it, but he could use a conductive rod to redirect it
[02:14:57] <juggs> It brings to mind the picture of someone settling in to watch a good film, hitting play and lightning zapping all over the room and them saying "Well that's a little distracting" - talk about understatement :D
[02:13:35] <juggs> This comment in a PC hardware discussion just made my day - "Also there are led lightnings on the fans. I couldn't find a way to disable the lightning. is there a way to shut them off. I'm using the pc to watch movies, those lightnings will be a big distraction."
[02:06:53] <Bender> karma - food: 3
[02:06:53] <JamesNZ> food++
[02:03:10] <chromas> that's not a person; it's an air freshener
[02:02:15] <SpallsHurgenson> nah, just transfer 'em all to sales; its so full of bullshit over there anyway, nobody will notice the smell :)
[02:00:27] <juggs> don't they tend to stink up the place though? all that decomposing all over the place will have HR and Health and Safety going to war.
[01:59:42] <swiss> lunch violation
[01:58:08] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... umm... I used to work in HR?
[01:57:28] <juggs> you know this how?
[01:57:10] <SpallsHurgenson> dead people don't get lunch breaks
[01:56:53] * silverly off to lunch
[01:56:48] <silverly> Literally death
[01:56:10] <Popeidol> to send photos of our genitalia to each other
[01:56:04] <Popeidol> SpallsHurgenson: I assume for the same reason as the rest of us
[01:55:29] <juggs> ugh - and now polymorphic code.... ARRRGH! Break out the single malt.
[01:55:05] <SpallsHurgenson> why does China need the Internet? The Net's great strength is the dissemination of information, and we're straight-out GIVING all our secrets to 'em anyway.
[01:54:10] <swiss> AI CODE
[01:52:49] <juggs> hmm - now I'm reading something about self-modifying code - I think I need a lie down
[01:50:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Clamps Down on Web, Pinching Companies Like Google - http://sylnt.us - knowing-when-you're-not-wanted
[01:50:08] <juggs> ok - I just read some guff on Java annotations - I'm none the wiser what purpose they serve :/
[01:41:58] * silverly rants
[01:41:40] <silverly> annotations are the dumbest fucking thing in code "lets make this code impossible to debug since there is some magic glue that the programmer cant see since since by using an annotations it saves 3 lines of copypaste code"
[01:40:05] <silverly> im making a web app server now, and my library makes me uses annotations
[01:39:37] <silverly> i dunno, whenever i had to use it, its always a PITA.
[01:35:22] <juggs> I didn't find it troublesome last time I used it - but that was something fairly trivial.
[01:30:31] * silverly not actually literally but pretty damn close.
[01:27:17] <silverly> literally a living hell to develop in.
[01:26:59] <chromas> suddenly got yellow out and a bit thundery
[01:26:50] <silverly> language
[01:26:43] <juggs> hmmm googlying "blueberry seeds" does not give the expected results :/
[01:25:33] <juggs> ya - can;t see that one getting much use :)
[01:25:30] * SpallsHurgenson has never noticed that
[01:25:25] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... blueberries have seeds?
[01:25:13] <Bender> karma - blueberry_seeds_in_my_teeth: -1
[01:25:13] <chromas> blueberry_seeds_in_my_teeth--
[01:24:47] <juggs> ~45 active volcanoes on Java - sounds like a nice place to live!
[01:23:41] <juggs> big ass volcano isn't it?
[01:22:58] <chromas> oh yeah, java the hut
[01:22:45] <SpallsHurgenson> its an island. part of indonesia I think
[01:21:51] <JamesNZ> I never understood why people hate Java so much.
[01:21:46] <chromas> Or java?
[01:21:42] <chromas> there's a country called systemd?
[01:21:21] <Bender> karma - java: -8
[01:21:21] <chromas> java-- won't keep the fire going around here
[01:21:17] * SpallsHurgenson wonders what is getting all the hate: the country, the chemical or the language
[01:20:24] <Bender> karma - java: -7
[01:20:23] <silverly> java--
[01:20:19] <Bender> karma - java: -6
[01:20:19] <silverly> java--
[01:20:17] <Bender> karma - java: -5
[01:20:17] <silverly> java--
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[01:16:11] <juggs> loooooool
[01:15:55] <systemd> Did somedoby mention flames?
[01:15:14] <swiss> chromas: just don't use a straw
[01:15:07] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, you wanna heat this place up you gotta be more like wasshisname, our resident troll :)
[01:14:23] <juggs> I have fireplaces in every room, but no fire on the go right now - that was the #soylent firepit I refuelled
[01:13:13] * SpallsHurgenson has no fireplace, so revs up a few more GPUs instead
[01:12:47] <Bender> karma - spoons: 1
[01:12:47] <chromas> spoons++
[01:12:31] <juggs> use a spoon :D
[01:12:18] <chromas> Guess I should learn how before doing
[01:12:03] * chromas makes a 'fruit smoothie' for the first time ever; can't drink 'cause it's too thicl
[01:11:36] * juggs chucks another couple of logs on the fire
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[01:06:41] <SpallsHurgenson> ouch :)
[01:04:27] <chromas> "No, it's a capacitor and it's not much of a bulge"
[01:02:57] <SpallsHurgenson> that sounds like a nerdy pick-up line, "Hey babe, is this a bulging capacitor in my pocket or am I just happy to see you?"
[01:01:53] <mythterj> I had a case of bulging capaciters that gave me brief hope once. Luckily a close look at the MOBO prevented me from making a fool of myself.
[00:54:34] <SpallsHurgenson> It worked (sorta) for me once before... although I was fairly certain the "failure" that time was more due to an underpowered PSU on the first machine :)
[00:52:50] <ciri> i hope you wiped your ass :)
[00:52:50] <mythterj> Shit if that worked we could just all swap failed cards and drives and we would all be happy. I have a drawer full of stuff looking for a new home.
[00:52:49] <juggs> always a good excuse for an upgrade
[00:52:15] <SpallsHurgenson> alas, it was not to be... and now I got a big hunka plastic and silicon lying dead on the desk :(
[00:49:26] <SpallsHurgenson> but maybe the CPU and GPU just had a falling out on the old PC and a change of locale would get everything working again :)
[00:48:47] <juggs> ahh, yeh - that would be terminal :D
[00:48:24] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I think the fan died at one point and it fried.
[00:48:00] <juggs> likely just a popped cap
[00:47:41] <SpallsHurgenson> sorta :)
[00:47:22] <juggs> were you expecting a miracle Spalls?
[00:40:05] <juggs> good to see you back :)
[00:40:00] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of repairs... I was quite disappointed when the video-card that died in my computer didn't magically start working when I plugged it into another PC
[00:39:32] <Subsentient> juggs: I am mostly ok, yes.
[00:39:11] <juggs> hey Subsentient - you doing OK?
[00:38:12] <juggs> this i sapple we're taking about
[00:37:56] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but I gotta pay extra for it :)
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[00:37:51] <juggs> generic external? probably a damn sight cheaper than getting an internal drive repaired when it inevitably shits its pants.
[00:37:41] <swiss> usb drive works fine for niche cases
[00:36:33] <SpallsHurgenson> so... need an optical drive that can burn discs. stupid apple
[00:36:10] <juggs> wise
[00:35:53] <SpallsHurgenson> and I sure as hell ain't buyin' 'em a flash-drive for every transfer (or accepting it back after its been in their dirty machines :)
[00:35:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not... but then I often need to transfer big files and the recipients are usually unable to handle Dropbox (much less FTP)
[00:35:14] <juggs> I have one in my desktop lump. But that's relatively geriatric these days. I'll likely keep it in there if I ever get around to upgrading the m/b etc
[00:34:50] <swiss> a year later, i was like "holy shit, that's brilliant"
[00:34:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I still do.
[00:34:34] <swiss> cursed them for being idiots
[00:34:28] <swiss> i remember getting pissed when they took it out of the mac mini
[00:34:01] <SpallsHurgenson> probably also requires an optical drive installed and who still has one of those these days? :-)
[00:33:12] <juggs> Pretty sure it required the 4 pin CD audio cable connecting to work. Never cared enough to find out.
[00:30:32] <chromas> ✔ Superfluous features!
[00:29:27] <SpallsHurgenson> probably fairly easy to do, and adds a checkbox to the box-copy :)
[00:28:21] <juggs> my motherboard has some function to play a CD at a set time. So let's see how that goes - power up to put CD in and access bios and set time, power off. Weird, why would anyone even both coding such a thing?
[00:25:24] <SpallsHurgenson> or a better remote (it's a cheap thing that came with the motherboard :)
[00:25:11] <juggs> mebbe it is useful for xbmc type setups (??)
[00:24:59] <swiss> you need a better frontend
[00:24:36] <juggs> well that does rather defeat the point
[00:22:19] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but I still need to mouse about to select the file :)
[00:21:53] <juggs> might be useful if using it to show films etc to a big screen
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[00:19:00] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, who the hell needs a remote for a computer?
[00:18:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I spent longer getting it to work, I know, but that was the fun part
[00:18:26] <juggs> that didn't last long
[00:17:48] * SpallsHurgenson is suddenly bored by his new toy and chucks it into the corner
[00:13:54] <juggs> hey Preston and welcome :)
[00:06:29] <SpallsHurgenson> yay, my IR remote for my computer is working :)
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[00:03:53] <ciri> nitty nite! Blackmoore
[00:03:53] <Blackmoore> nite all
[00:03:40] <Preston> Hey all, ltns.
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