#Soylent | Logs for 2014-06-22

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[00:01:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - United States National Park Service Bans Drones. - http://sylnt.us - I-am-the-eye-in-the-sky
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[00:12:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - United States National Park Service Bans Drones - http://sylnt.us - I-am-the-eye-in-the-sky
[00:15:27] <chromas> Bender: s/eye-in-the-sky/firestarter/
[00:15:27] <SedBot> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - United States National Park Service Bans Drones - http://sylnt.us - I-am-the-firestarter
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[01:39:10] <crutchy> mornin
[01:44:39] <chromas> Hey crutchy
[01:45:05] <chromas> Should say that to Woods
[01:45:11] <chromas> Morning Woods
[01:46:30] <crutchy> hi chromas,juggs
[01:47:18] <crutchy> did some work on my feeds script last night... until stupid-o'clock thismorning... doesn't quite work yet but getting there
[01:47:21] <crutchy> stupid bugs
[01:48:17] <chromas> Programming++
[01:48:17] <Bender> karma - programming: 1
[01:48:41] <chromas> Passing_time--
[01:48:41] <Bender> karma - passing_time: -1
[01:55:22] <crutchy> google groups dies redirects without hosts :-/
[01:55:34] <crutchy> s/di/do/
[01:55:34] <SedBot> <crutchy> google groups does redirects without hosts :-/
[01:55:51] <crutchy> that's just nasty
[01:56:40] <crutchy> the problem i'm having is a dumb one though. i have nfi why it not working, but maybe it will hit me while i'm eating cookies
[01:57:13] * NCommander is slightly concerned while looking at stats :-/
[01:57:46] <NCommander> There's a distinct but noticable drop in hits
[01:58:01] <crutchy> maybe we need my irc commenter :-P
[01:58:15] <crutchy> yeah impulsive comment spam :-D
[01:59:08] <crutchy> ~comment zomg! wtf! bro the NSA can kiss my shitter
[01:59:39] <crutchy> or maybe just the weekend SN blues?
[02:01:16] <crutchy> i had some fucked up scary dream thismorning :-|
[02:01:29] <crutchy> like that i was in a war of no hope
[02:02:04] <crutchy> like sommme but with jets and stuff that were dropping bombs
[02:02:07] * NCommander wonders if $20 USD/year is a good acceptable price range for subscriptions
[02:02:53] <crutchy> i won't pay it... not cos i'm that much of a cheapskate but i don't buy anything online
[02:03:21] <crutchy> actually i guess if its kinda a donation might not be so bad
[02:03:56] <crutchy> ~comment tfa
[02:03:57] <exec> [SoylentNews] - United States National Park Service Bans Drones - http://sylnt.us - I-am-the-eye-in-the-sky
[02:04:09] <crutchy> wow
[02:04:33] <crutchy> that will be ignored
[02:05:04] <crutchy> as if national park service has any jurisdiction over dod
[02:20:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Bounces Radio Signals One Billion Miles (Cassini Update) - http://sylnt.us - science-is-magic
[02:22:15] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[02:22:16] <monopoly> └ 9The Matrix First Fight Scene HD - YouTube
[02:24:18] <crutchy> the first time cinema audiences went "whoa bullet time ftw!"
[02:25:24] * NCommander deep sighs
[02:25:40] <crutchy> what's up boss?
[02:26:32] <arti> off to a bbq
[02:26:42] * arti spares a few cold ones from the santa like sack
[02:26:58] <arti> Soylent Nick
[02:27:08] <crutchy> NCommander: does your stats thingy work for noscript? from memory it looked like it was js-driven
[02:27:25] <crutchy> possibly a few noscript browsers here
[02:27:49] * crutchy offers arti a tim tam
[02:29:02] <crutchy> ^ and bots :-P
[02:30:36] <chromas> Crutchy: are you checking the location: field?
[02:30:39] <NCommander> crutchy, there's a hidden image that gets noscript users, but noscript sets DNT which filters them out
[02:31:44] * crutchy wonders if apache log would make for more useful stats data
[02:32:08] <crutchy> chromas, yeah
[02:32:50] <chromas> Crutchy, varnish keeps apache stats from being too useful
[02:33:05] <chromas> Not sure what logs varnish can do
[02:33:37] <crutchy> all logs can be varnished.... better to remove the bark first though :-P
[02:34:54] <chromas> All the tim tam talk time today males me want to go bust out some cookies. Maybe biscotti or something
[02:35:11] <chromas> Freudian slip?
[02:35:59] <crutchy> going to bust some male cookies eh?
[02:36:16] * crutchy has nfi what that even means
[02:36:19] <crutchy> :-P
[02:36:30] <crutchy> ~define cookies
[02:36:32] <exec> [urbandictionary] cookies: a woman's wet vagina
[02:36:41] <crutchy> lmao!
[02:36:51] <crutchy> urbandictionary++
[02:36:51] <Bender> karma - urbandictionary: 1
[02:43:36] * NCommander is trying to keep write
[02:43:38] <NCommander> :-/
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[03:26:19] <NCommander> Someone just hit me
[03:31:48] <kobach> hit them back
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[03:44:10] <crutchy> wtf is wrong with google?
[03:44:24] <crutchy> its pretty much unusably slow for me
[03:44:36] * crutchy opens bing.com
[03:45:36] <crutchy> fuck eeven with the bullshit background photo bing shits all over google
[03:45:59] <crutchy> is anyone having trouble with loading google home page?
[03:46:04] <crutchy> ~isup google.com.au
[03:46:06] <exec> google.com.au: HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently
[03:46:10] <crutchy> ~isup google.com
[03:46:10] <exec> google.com: HTTP/1.0 302 Found
[03:46:18] <chromas> Not I
[03:46:24] <chromas> People still use the front page?
[03:46:31] <chromas> s/the/Mircosoft/
[03:46:31] <SedBot> <chromas> People still use Mircosoft front page?
[03:46:41] <crutchy> what do you use?
[03:46:47] <chromas> It's got bouncing letters
[03:46:52] <chromas> I search from the address bad
[03:46:54] <chromas> r
[03:46:59] <crutchy> it does load... eventually
[03:47:03] <crutchy> takes about 20 sec
[03:47:06] <crutchy> :-/
[03:47:10] <chromas> are you using .com ?
[03:47:25] <crutchy> i think it redirects to .com.au for me
[03:47:25] <chromas> I guess there's no .au
[03:47:34] <chromas> ah
[03:47:40] <chromas> also loaded quickly
[03:47:55] <crutchy> it just surprises me that bing.com loads pretty much instantly
[03:48:02] <chromas> Are you guys doing something you shouldn't, like blocking us from spying on you?
[03:48:11] <chromas> Google's getting even
[03:48:15] <crutchy> ll
[03:48:31] <chromas> There's always ddg or ixquik
[03:48:39] <crutchy> maybe i'll see if i can get a google search bar without the bullshit front page image thing
[03:49:06] <chromas> you could also make your own front page :D
[03:49:38] <crutchy> ff has one somewhere
[03:50:12] <chromas> oh I see; the O is playing soccer
[03:50:37] <crutchy> aha
[03:50:41] <crutchy> about:home
[03:50:44] <chromas> ftbol
[03:51:13] <chromas> about:about
[03:52:05] <chromas> That should keep you busy
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[04:34:50] <crutchy> yay finally got rid of stupid bug
[04:35:16] <crutchy> it was just a wrong variable name... didn't get a warning which made it a bit tricky to find :-/
[04:40:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robo-callers, beware: The FTC is going to DEF CON!! - http://sylnt.us
[04:41:30] <crutchy> ^don't they always?
[04:41:39] <crutchy> even the NSA goes to defcon'
[04:42:07] <crutchy> i was under the impression the NSA was a regular, so wouldn't be surprised if the FTC was too
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[04:57:55] <chromas> Yeah but the ftc doesn't do anything
[04:58:12] <chromas> You know, like regulating and stuff
[04:58:41] <crutchy> the nsa doesn't do anything either :-P
[04:58:51] <juggs> o.O
[04:59:03] <crutchy> *waves hand*
[04:59:15] <juggs> you are correct sir
[05:00:05] <chromas> The ftc can't do anything because they'd be called out for anti-semitism
[05:00:23] * chromas takes off her troll hat
[05:02:27] <crutchy> think i've just about got feeds worked out
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[05:14:38] <SirFinkus> We're sorry. We are unable to retrieve more tracking details for this shipment.
[05:14:41] <SirFinkus> still?
[05:14:49] * SirFinkus is getting alarmed
[05:14:52] <juggs> rut roh
[05:15:00] <SirFinkus> it's been like 3 days now
[05:15:34] <chromas> You didn't get a space or something in the code, did you?
[05:16:08] <SirFinkus> naw, from the amazon tracker
[05:16:23] <SirFinkus> using the tracking number on the ups site doesn't give any more info
[05:18:12] <juggs> in a few days it will probably show as currently tracking in Uzbekistan or somewhere equally improbable :D
[05:19:11] <chromas> juggs: that sounds like FedEx Smartpost
[05:19:45] <juggs> can't say I've ever used them
[05:21:07] <crutchy> this is why i don't buy stuff off the interblags
[05:21:32] <crutchy> does SedBot still do the interblags thing?
[05:21:41] <chromas> should
[05:21:51] <crutchy> s/blags/tubes/
[05:21:51] <SedBot> <crutchy> does SedBot still do the world wide web thing?
[05:21:52] <chromas> s/i/internet/
[05:21:55] <crutchy> lol
[05:22:01] <chromas> s/i/internet/
[05:22:06] <chromas> s/o/internet/
[05:22:06] <SedBot> <chromas> shblogosphereuld
[05:22:12] <crutchy> hahaha
[05:22:21] <crutchy> shblogosphereuld++
[05:22:21] <Bender> karma - shblogosphereuld: 1
[05:22:29] <chromas> It seems like sometimes the sed strings count and other times not
[05:22:56] <SirFinkus> yeah, smartpost and usps are great
[05:23:00] <chromas> s/count/count as messages to be sed'ed/
[05:23:00] <SedBot> <chromas> It seems like sometimes the sed strings count as messages to be sed'ed and other times not
[05:23:11] <SirFinkus> I love how usps tracking starts working about 2 weeks after you get the package
[05:23:26] <chromas> Never had a problem with usps but smartpost runs things all over the country (at least, according to the tracking)
[05:23:58] <SirFinkus> it always gets there, just in the stupidest way possible
[05:24:01] <chromas> My dad had a package from California to Oregon go up to Seattle and somewhere in Alaska
[05:24:21] <chromas> but they also take a while to update so it's probably wrong too
[05:24:28] <SirFinkus> alaska, that's aggressive
[05:24:46] <SirFinkus> I got my other package though, so I'm at least happy for now
[05:24:52] <SirFinkus> worried, but happy
[05:24:59] <crutchy> ~part
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[05:25:09] <chromas> Maybe they just throw it onto whatever vehicle has free space, no matter where it's going
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[05:25:30] <crutchy> g'day mrcoolbp
[05:25:34] <crutchy> hi swiss
[05:25:35] <SirFinkus> my friend worked for ups briefly, that sounds about right
[05:25:38] <mrcoolbp> g'day crutchy
[05:25:42] <chromas> g'day exec
[05:26:13] <chromas> oh and maybe they can't fit it anywhere because it's from Amazon
[05:26:52] <SirFinkus> I'm sure they've planned for that contingency
[05:26:58] <chromas> I got a couple HDDs once, each in its own box the size of a shoe box, which were both in another box too big for both boxes
[05:27:09] <SirFinkus> lol
[05:27:27] <SirFinkus> well, the other thing was from a band, it's actually kind of neat
[05:27:38] <SirFinkus> hand addressed in huge letters with sharpie
[05:27:39] <chromas> but then other times they just slap the shipping label right on monitor's own box
[05:27:51] <chromas> ooh, they put care into your package
[05:27:58] <SirFinkus> with hand painted bloodstains
[05:28:06] <SirFinkus> and they painted the band logo
[05:28:45] <SirFinkus> I'd show you a picture, but it has my address on it
[05:28:51] <chromas> cool. Did you test to see if it's real blood?
[05:29:01] <chromas> sheepy
[05:29:04] <SirFinkus> fairly obvious paint
[05:29:21] <SirFinkus> but actual paint, it isn't printed
[05:29:34] <chromas> Send me the picture, then I'll digitally remove the address and send it back so you can show me
[05:29:45] <SirFinkus> lolk
[05:31:11] <crutchy> ping juggs
[05:31:23] <juggs> pong
[05:31:30] <juggs> sup
[05:31:52] <crutchy> do you mind if i chuck exec into your #rss-bot channel to output some feeds?
[05:32:00] <crutchy> (different ones)
[05:32:20] <juggs> couldn't care less :D
[05:32:56] <crutchy> cool. thanks :-)
[05:32:58] <crutchy> juggs++
[05:32:58] <Bender> karma - juggs: 9
[05:33:55] <juggs> I suspect your effort is going to be way more featured than mine, in which case I can retire Regurgitator and leave it to exec :D
[05:34:39] <crutchy> atm it just has a couple of google groups and SpaceFuture
[05:35:09] <crutchy> i'm working on some admin commands though, so that editors etc can add more feeds
[05:35:20] <crutchy> does rss and atom
[05:36:01] <crutchy> just tweaking some basic things still, like replacing html entities
[05:36:19] <chromas> ooh I see pipedot in there now
[05:36:34] <crutchy> cool
[05:36:47] <crutchy> do we have NASA etc yet?
[05:37:07] <juggs> !nasa
[05:37:11] <crutchy> i like SpaceFuture but not sure how quick on the draw they are
[05:37:15] <crutchy> oh cool :-D
[05:37:33] <juggs> or !rss to get the list of feeds it is following
[05:37:47] <chromas> does it have Russian NASA and Chinese NASA?
[05:37:48] <chromas> :D
[05:38:02] <juggs> be warned doing a !<feedid> currently returns upto 99 latest
[05:38:08] <crutchy> ESA, JAXA, etc
[05:38:25] <crutchy> lol mkay
[05:38:27] <crutchy> does it pm?
[05:38:30] * crutchy tries
[05:39:02] <juggs> if you pm it first then it replies in the pm, if you do it in channel it uses the NOTICE queue in channel so only you see it
[05:39:10] <crutchy> hmm i should do notices in exec
[05:39:12] <crutchy> ah
[05:40:34] <juggs> yeh eggrop makes that shit easy - you can just put output to to NOTICE or channel or privmsg or urgent or w/e
[05:40:57] <chromas> http://sourceforge.net
[05:40:58] <monopoly> └ 9Supybot | Free Communications software downloads at SourceForge.net
[05:41:06] * chromas teehees
[05:41:11] <juggs> hmm
[05:41:32] <crutchy> if there's a better bot for this stuff might be worth looking into
[05:41:34] <chromas> has quote grabs and titles and stuff
[05:41:43] <crutchy> exec is pretty clunky
[05:41:57] <chromas> where's the fun in that using something else?
[05:42:09] <crutchy> that's what i reckon :-P
[05:42:16] * chromas should be a /. editor
[05:43:11] <chromas> !roll
[05:43:13] <juggs> eggdrop is ass slow when putting a lot of stuff through notice - it's coded to dump 5 lines then put 1 line every 2 seconds to prevent getting booted for flooding
[05:44:02] <crutchy> exec does something similar. dunno if can do much about that (without some kind of irc server setting thingy)
[05:44:37] <juggs> It really depends what the flood limits are on the ircd
[05:45:37] <juggs> Oh wait - I did look into this the other day. It's actually a sensible strategy.
[05:46:01] <chromas> True; if someone is spamming, you don't want them to go as fast as they can get away with
[05:46:30] <chromas> Maybe the server should randomize it a bit
[05:47:00] <crutchy> looking at my charybdis conf it looks like ops get more leeway
[05:47:31] <crutchy> if you op regurgitator you can prolly get away with more
[05:47:43] <juggs> Imagine some nefarious type wants to annoy irc.soylentnews.org - quick script to log 100 users into #rss-bot and call every feed. That's just going to end as a bandwidth battle between Digital Ocean (Regurgitator) and Linode (I think) until one or the other runs out of data usage.
[05:48:40] <crutchy> xlefay told me about his server... regurgitator might lose
[05:48:57] <crutchy> he uses a host in germany with a crapload of bandwidth
[05:49:30] <juggs> For sure - it's on the entry DO droplet instance, it would just churn away until my credit ran out.
[05:50:07] <crutchy> speaking of xlefay... where is he?
[05:50:51] <juggs> I generally don't op my bots unless they are doing channel control, less to go wrong that way :D
[05:50:53] <crutchy> not sure if i'll include a manual output option... if editors (or anyone) want to review exec feeds they can look at logs.sylnt.us
[05:51:11] <crutchy> fair enough yeah can be rrisky
[05:52:00] <juggs> eggdrop is pretty well proven and all the channel control stuff is turned off on Regurgitator, but still... principle of minimal privilege and all
[05:53:02] <crutchy> true
[05:53:17] <crutchy> definitely wouldn't recommend opping exec
[05:53:21] <crutchy> :-P
[05:53:29] <crutchy> it is completely wild
[05:56:32] <juggs> what did you script it in?
[05:58:04] <chromas> MS-DOS batchfile
[05:58:16] <chromas> exec.bat
[05:59:48] <chromas> i/e/auto/
[06:00:50] <chromas> exec.bat
[06:01:06] <chromas> s/e/auto&/
[06:01:06] <SedBot> <chromas> autoexec.bat
[06:01:18] <juggs> I'm not sure if you are joking or not :/
[06:02:45] <chromas> command.com
[06:02:51] <crutchy> php
[06:03:07] <chromas> hey, there is a http://command.com and it's not nerdy
[06:03:10] <monopoly> └ 9Command™ - Damage-Free Hanging Solutions ( /wps/portal/!ut/p/a1/jc_BCoJAEAbgZ_EJ9ndtU4-66Dohoq5LtRfxECGUdYjo8StPhWTObeD7mfmZZTtmh-7eH7tbfxm603u367beZKER3EOAKgFRlpAsQqDhL7D_BErVAjyvRKkzcqGwLC9VlK38HEDSxOCFSHQaBy7IW5bHj4n-3teHoTWabZn9lqr0UxCPC6pD6cnSn4Bp0xHMVRnBzK_XszG7B_UUOc4TyDx1Rw!!/dl5/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/ )
[06:03:17] <chromas> herp
[06:04:06] <juggs> Have you plonked a DB behind it for history / recall?
[06:04:22] <chromas> not yet
[06:04:32] <chromas> and I'm surprised it doesn't already do that
[06:04:42] <chromas> unless you meant exec
[06:05:10] <juggs> I was talking about exec, what were you talking about?
[06:05:44] <chromas> I dunno
[06:06:20] <chromas> Oh I was thinking of monopoly because it borked on that redirect
[06:08:53] <crutchy> chromas... i found that with feeds... sometimes you have to append last scheme+host
[06:08:54] <juggs> at least it tries to follow the redirect :D
[06:09:32] <chromas> but I'm not sure why the redirect looks like that. If I do it manually, it gets the hostname and it's also shorter
[06:09:41] <juggs> how are you keeping track of what is a new vs. old entry on each feed crutchy ?
[06:10:12] <chromas> crutchy: that might be a good use for your buckets
[06:10:51] <crutchy> uses bucket, and file as backup (in case of bot restart)
[06:10:58] <crutchy> juggs, https://github.com
[06:11:51] <crutchy> chromas, here's my go at redirects... might be frought with holes: https://github.com
[06:12:30] <juggs> s/frought/fraught
[06:12:31] * SedBot hurls a / at jaggs!
[06:12:35] <juggs> s/frought/fraught/
[06:12:45] <juggs> meh
[06:12:59] <crutchy> lol i saw the red squiggles. sometimes i fix
[06:13:05] * juggs waves a smelly cheese in the general direction of SedBot
[06:14:17] <juggs> I never know if they are genuine squiggles. XChat squiggles "XChat" and I've for example
[06:14:31] <chromas> How about I'ven't?
[06:14:38] <crutchy> lol
[06:14:49] <juggs> Well I'd hope so
[06:15:24] <crutchy> it squiggles "doesn't"... and suggests "Dotson"¿
[06:15:24] <chromas> Shouldn't've'd
[06:16:20] <chromas> crutchy: yours is fancier than mine; I don't check for hostless
[06:16:21] <juggs> Now stop it - that's just silly""
[06:16:28] <chromas> s/les/es/
[06:16:28] <SedBot> <chromas> crutchy: yours is fancier than mine; I don't check for hostess
[06:16:55] <crutchy> always good to check for hostess... she might be naked and be offering clothes or bikes
[06:17:08] <chromas> usually twinkies and stuff
[06:17:11] <chromas> hohos
[06:17:13] <chromas> hos++
[06:17:13] <Bender> karma - hos: 1
[06:17:32] <chromas> or whatever they make
[06:17:40] <crutchy> well, the timer thingy seems to be working
[06:17:50] <crutchy> just need to adjust it and should be ready to go
[06:18:31] <chromas> may want a counter in the redirect handler though, just to be sure you don't get stuck in a loop
[06:18:59] <chromas> if it detects a loop, then it throws a $burrito
[06:19:32] <crutchy> it keeps track of where its been and compares to past redirects, but i guess you could have infinite redirect to different sites
[06:19:47] <chromas> oh is that waht the url_list is for?
[06:19:54] <crutchy> yup
[06:20:20] <crutchy> well, at least that was the intention :-P
[06:20:28] <chromas> Yeah that should be good
[06:20:36] <chromas> so it's still better :D
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[06:42:12] <juggs> ohh, it seems I can add colour codes to the output of Regurgitator.... is that a good thing? I'm conflicted, not all irc clients understand such frippery.
[06:44:36] <crutchy> exec feeds have green titles
[06:44:45] <crutchy> and bold source names
[06:46:59] <juggs> in clients that support the control characters, those that don't will display the \\002 or whatever the colour control code is as text
[06:49:23] <crutchy> hmm true
[06:49:58] <crutchy> but it looks soo preetty :-P
[06:51:56] <juggs> well there is no mechanism to know what client the recipient is using so it's not possible to tailor the response, so go with what you want or what your think will garner the least reflected angst from irssi users.
[06:53:55] <crutchy> might just same as regurgitator then methinks
[06:54:25] <Subsentient> lol 'regurgitator'
[06:54:27] <Subsentient> :^3
[06:54:35] <juggs> No, actually, fuck it, build what you want and if no-one else likes it screw them, you built and then have exactly what you wanted.
[06:55:28] <juggs> Subsentient, that's what it does, gobbles in one thing and vomits it into an IRC channel - it regurgitates
[06:55:30] <crutchy> i'll make it the same as yours. at least there will be some consistency. if you decide to add color i can easily change mine
[06:55:34] <crutchy> lol
[06:56:56] <crutchy> hmm there's one entry with a green title. must've just beaten rsync to the punch
[06:57:01] <juggs> Nah, go with some colour if you want colour - it may be more effective. We'll never know if we keep building things the same way the last thing was built
[06:57:56] <chromas> Are there any clients that don't support mIRC colors anymore?
[06:58:01] <chromas> Besides experimental ones
[07:02:45] <juggs> I'm not sure what irssi makes of mIRC colour codes - haven't used it in ages
[07:04:46] <juggs> From their docs it seems to support mIRC colours http://www.irssi.org
[07:04:47] <monopoly> └ 9Irssi - The client of the future
[07:05:07] <juggs> "client of the future" - that's optimistic
[07:05:41] <chromas> but "hasn’t been under active development for the last few years"
[07:05:59] <chromas> so it's like bitchx, without the good name
[07:06:15] <chromas> but at least it has documentation
[07:15:16] <juggs> well at some point, things are "done". IRC is relatively ancient as are some clients - there comes a danger point if you continue working on something that is "done" you either make it worse or are just twatting about the edges adding trimmings no-one but your own vanity can justify.
[07:15:56] <chromas> Yeah but we need tables and embedded images
[07:16:15] <chromas> And 💩
[07:16:17] <juggs> Apparently my vanity is a sentient being in its own right outside of myself.
[07:17:15] <juggs> I have no idea what that char was meant to be :P
[07:17:31] <chromas> The traditional poo
[07:17:47] <chromas> Doesn't show up for me, though, except on phone
[07:18:13] <chromas> We need something with xml-in-xml action
[07:18:22] <arti> we need to go deeper
[07:19:02] <juggs> Sounds about right in the context of tables and embedded images inline with IRC. That shit can fuck right off back to MSN/Yahoo/AIM/Twitter.
[07:19:20] <chromas> Those don't support those things
[07:19:30] <chromas> well some kind of do file transfers I guess
[07:23:09] <juggs> You know what I mean. IRC is fine as it is and has been for a long time now. The underlying network / server resilience is lovely.
[07:24:36] <chromas> yeah it does the jerb I guess
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[07:25:49] <juggs> ach 1st world problems
[07:25:57] <crutchy> lol
[07:26:11] <chromas> That's what's left after we've solved all the others
[07:26:17] <chromas> by which I mean, shoved them onto somebody else
[07:26:53] <juggs> i.e. just fucking ignored them in an ever more ugly scramble to plunge the snout in the trough
[07:27:21] <chromas> We should have other sections on SN and name them puns
[07:27:31] <chromas> Like a place for opinions, called SoylentViews
[07:27:43] <chromas> More of a rhyme than a pun
[07:28:05] <chromas> Or for financial advice, SoylentJews
[07:37:37] <juggs> o.O Semitic humour... really? That's low. Read some history as to why the brits deliberately encouraged Jewish bankers to move to London to carry out the banking functions when their own religion precluded them from usury. You may have to delve back a few hundred years, but it's well documented and not hard to find. If you can be arsed of course.
[07:38:08] <chromas> well then it can be for hollywood news
[07:38:21] <chromas> Or would that be Soylentology?
[07:40:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Incubation Time was Important for Sauropod Dinosaurs - http://sylnt.us - sunny-side-up-for-me
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[07:55:22] <exec> exec sed enabled
[07:58:35] <chromas> you nee4ded one more k
[07:58:51] <chromas> juggs: s/ch/kh/
[07:58:51] <exec> <chromas> <juggs>
[07:58:51] * exec kicks khromas to the kerb
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[08:09:45] <juggs> o.O if you say
[08:10:18] <chromas> There's no trollbot here so somebody has to fill in
[08:10:26] <chromas> s/troll/flame/
[08:10:26] <exec> <chromas> There's no flamebot here so somebody has to fill in
[08:12:40] <crutchy> $burrito random directions
[08:12:40] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at random directions
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[08:14:34] <juggs> you are the trollbot chromas :P
[08:14:50] <chromas> oh yeah
[08:14:58] <chromas> If I look around and don't see one, it's probably me
[08:15:43] <juggs> much like looking for the mad person
[08:15:56] <chromas> That's why I won't look for those
[08:16:03] <chromas> If I don't know it then it's not true
[08:16:59] * crutchy does something awesome
[08:17:05] <crutchy> s/awesome/weird/
[08:17:06] <exec> <crutchy> does something weird
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[08:17:34] <juggs> we're all mental in different ways, just accept that and move on with life, accept others as they are and stop worrying about such trivial BS
[08:18:09] * juggs aways to a duvet of enlightenment
[08:18:25] <crutchy> i was worried about sed outputting unicode action stuff
[08:18:43] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[08:18:43] <crutchy> :-P
[08:18:50] <chromas> I wish I could switch to enlightenment but its widgets and config are so weird
[08:19:07] <crutchy> and you prolly gotta use rh
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[08:44:16] <crutchy> g'day Subsentient
[08:44:28] <Subsentient> hi crutchy
[08:44:37] <crutchy> what's new?
[08:45:20] <Subsentient> Well, I commanded a gerbil horde ten billion strong against the armies of Ngux, liberating the lesser cyan void of their evil tentacle kiwis.
[08:45:21] <Subsentient> You?
[08:50:00] <crutchy> kiwis!? yeah gotta be careful of them... and their sheep hoardes
[08:50:19] <crutchy> just debugging my stupid feed script
[08:51:22] <crutchy> hmm that seems to have fixed it
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[10:26:44] <crutchy> wb Subsentient :-)
[10:26:50] <Subsentient> :^3
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[10:41:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why We Need to Tame Our Algorithms Like Dogs - http://sylnt.us - sit-quicksort-sit
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[12:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:25:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 273
[12:25:24] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:25:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 274
[12:25:30] <crutchy> mornin
[12:25:41] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[12:25:43] <exec> [Google] 5:25am Sunday (CDT) - Time in Chicago, IL, USA
[12:26:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> set my alarm for 5 yesterday to go fishing. today i woke up 5m earlier without an alarm.
[12:26:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> my internal chronometer hates me.
[12:27:04] <crutchy> chromasometer
[12:27:26] <crutchy> how's the fishing?
[12:27:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that only needs to count to 1 unless he's got a non-evil twin
[12:28:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> utter crap. 3 fish in 8 hours and none keeping-sized.
[12:28:27] <crutchy> bugger
[12:28:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto the snake hunting in the evening. snakes wouldn't come out.
[12:28:48] <crutchy> there's only really one place worth fishing near me
[12:28:58] <crutchy> and its a 15 minute drive away
[12:29:15] <crutchy> power station cooling pondage
[12:29:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> there're better places to fish than this lake but the lake has much bigger fish than farm ponds.
[12:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of these days i will land a Good One
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[12:30:45] <crutchy> guys i work with drive hundreds of kilometers to go fishing on a weekend
[12:31:05] <crutchy> at places on the coast of bass straight
[12:31:16] <ar> coffee--
[12:31:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 273
[12:31:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Makes Fork of OpenSSL Called "BoringSSL" - http://sylnt.us - MMmm-Fork-Fork-Fork
[12:31:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> was about 60km to the lake i fish at
[12:31:39] <crutchy> lmao @ google
[12:32:16] <crutchy> a better department might have been "move-along-now-nothing-to-hack-here"
[12:32:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't really blame em. their version is mostly openssl with the apis and abis stripped out
[12:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot of code they don't need that something could go wrong in
[12:33:15] <crutchy> its good that a lot of attention has been dran to it. just a shame that usually something bad has to happen to draw such attention
[12:33:23] <crutchy> s/dran/drawn/
[12:33:24] <exec> <crutchy> its good that a lot of attention has been drawn to it. just a shame that usually something bad has to happen to draw such attention
[12:33:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:34:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[12:34:03] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 2
[12:34:32] <crutchy> good a feed script going
[12:34:46] <crutchy> its a bit rough, but seems to be doing the job
[12:35:18] <crutchy> ooh just hit its timer then
[12:35:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm?
[12:35:43] <crutchy> #rss-bot
[12:35:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[12:36:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> rss is good, easy stuff
[12:36:36] <crutchy> i've made a lot of stupid mistakes though
[12:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah. they wouldn't be mistakes if they weren't stupid.
[12:37:20] <crutchy> trouble with developing in gedit and running processes with piped stdout/stderr
[12:37:52] <crutchy> seems to work most of the time but sometimes (for reasons unknown to me) php warnings don't show
[12:38:06] <crutchy> so its manual debugging all the way
[12:38:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh right, yer doing php dev. forgot.
[12:38:43] <crutchy> lol
[12:38:54] <crutchy> explains everything?
[12:39:11] <chromas> http://www.youtube.com
[12:39:11] <monopoly> └ 9Harvey Birdman S1E03 Shaggy Busted - YouTube
[12:39:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> well can't write it as a console version first to test it.
[12:39:42] <crutchy> i could, but its kinda tied into the irc bot
[12:39:54] <crutchy> its a bit of a 'system'
[12:40:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yer in good company though. i do my slash dev with mostly grep, find, and gvim.
[12:40:14] <crutchy> ah
[12:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully if i print something to STDERR, it goes to the apache log.
[12:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats having to display it to the page
[12:42:02] <crutchy> stderr for a script run by exec is piped to the bot and is output to screen and logged
[12:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there ya go then
[12:42:38] <crutchy> screen's a bit of a pain for scrolling though so i normally use the log
[12:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> just tail -F your log and you're golden
[12:43:18] <crutchy> since the bot is running on my webserver, this was easy enough: http://irciv.us.to
[12:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry, chromas, never acquired a taste for birdman
[12:43:38] <crutchy> (i just log to files in an accessible location)
[12:44:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> could i spose but tail -F works better for me. follows the ass-end of the file so i only have to read the new stuff.
[12:44:51] <crutchy> true
[12:45:26] <crutchy> if i scroll to the bottom of the page in ff generally when i hit f5 is stays at the bottom, but yeah tail is nice
[12:45:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus the F being capital means keep following the same filename if the file gets removed, compressed, and recreated empty.
[12:46:04] <crutchy> the screen session tails, but just harder to scroll up
[12:46:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:46:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> have that issue with my minecraft server
[12:46:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> refuse to learn screen enough to scroll though
[12:46:47] <crutchy> i just use crtl+a,esc
[12:46:58] <crutchy> and then esc again to go back to normal
[12:47:04] <crutchy> but still a pain
[12:47:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> screen as an idea is awesome. in practice it's a bunch of new shit to learn for dubious return.
[12:48:27] <crutchy> its pretty much just a remote tail i guess
[12:48:39] <crutchy> can do commands though too
[12:48:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:48:52] <crutchy> handy for restarting my stupid bot when it borks :-P
[12:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit of nohup thrown in too
[12:51:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... yeah, now's as good a time as any to update this box i guess. necessary reboot from the kernel upgrade won't interrupt slash work cause i powered the vm off for the weekend.
[12:54:40] <crutchy> ping xlefay
[12:55:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't he supposed to be coming back?
[12:56:13] <crutchy> thought so, but not sure when
[12:56:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. we got time. domain and hosting are paid up for a while.
[12:56:58] <crutchy> guess he can only come back when his alien captors will allow it
[12:57:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> too busy partying with elvis
[12:57:42] <crutchy> i think this ircd is running on xlefay's server in germany
[12:57:50] <crutchy> unless its changed since
[12:58:33] * TheMightyBuzzard shrugs
[12:58:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never paid much attention
[12:59:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> 162 packages. i should update more often.
[13:01:20] <crutchy> 78.46.73.251 - Geo Information
[13:01:21] <crutchy> IP Address 78.46.73.251
[13:01:21] <crutchy> Host irc.soylentnews.org
[13:01:21] <crutchy> Location DE DE, Germany
[13:01:21] <crutchy> City -, - -
[13:01:21] <crutchy> Organization Hetzner Online AG
[13:01:25] <crutchy> ISP Hetzner Online AG
[13:02:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like
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[13:05:06] <crutchy> https://apps.db.ripe.net
[13:05:08] <monopoly> └ 9 Database Query — Welcome to RIPE Network Coordination Centre
[13:06:32] <crutchy> sounds fancy with a name like "Network Coordination Centre", when really its just a bunch of people on computers making sure that other people on computers can access their pr0n
[13:08:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[13:10:38] <crutchy> rsync++
[13:10:38] <Bender> karma - rsync: 3
[13:11:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> rsync++
[13:11:12] <Bender> karma - rsync: 4
[13:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> also good for making sure you can access your porn
[13:12:55] <crutchy> this page looks like an infinite redirect... might be a good test for monopoly: http://dailydigestnews.com
[13:12:56] <monopoly> └ 9President Obama: We will save the bees from extinction | Daily Digest News
[13:13:10] <crutchy> :-)
[13:14:08] <crutchy> oh wait
[13:14:20] <crutchy> http://www.google.com
[13:14:21] <monopoly> └ 9Google
[13:14:24] <crutchy> hmm
[13:14:29] <crutchy> where's the URL?
[13:14:40] <chromas> http://google.com
[13:14:41] <monopoly> └ 9Google ( http://www.google.com )
[13:14:46] <chromas> it only shows if it's different
[13:15:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[13:15:38] <chromas> Not sure why google redirects; I thought www. was deprecated
[13:16:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[13:16:13] <crutchy> i get a recurring redirect on that dailydigestnews URL
[13:16:16] <crutchy> in ff
[13:16:37] <crutchy> and a while bunch of ad serv shit
[13:16:38] <chromas> hm I do see a bar in palemoon saying it prevented it from automatically reloading
[13:16:45] <crutchy> ah
[13:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be you. i just get a story
[13:16:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> course noscript
[13:17:02] <crutchy> lol
[13:17:04] <chromas> I see a boob
[13:17:05] <crutchy> noscript++
[13:17:05] <Bender> karma - noscript: 1
[13:17:07] <crutchy> lol
[13:17:07] <chromas> also breasts
[13:17:15] * crutchy reopens :-P
[13:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[13:17:17] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 9
[13:17:25] <chromas> buzzfeed style
[13:17:38] <chromas> "15 sexiest"..."18 jaw-dropping..."
[13:17:45] <crutchy> obama's ears have bewbs
[13:17:58] <chromas> those are teacup handles
[13:18:17] <chromas> but the steam comes out the front instead of the top
[13:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that's just hot air. no significant moisture content.
[13:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> back directly, reboot
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[13:20:34] <crutchy> news @ 11: PRISM is really connected to Obama's ears for data collection
[13:21:27] <chromas> ^ NSA spokesman says, "Even we're saying TMI now"
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[13:22:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'better
[13:25:01] <crutchy> /etc/init.d/awesome start
[13:25:30] <chromas> systemctl enable bewbage
[13:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> just be careful of systemctl list-unit-files if you have pr0n with lots of units and no bewbs. could out yourself if someone looks over your shoulder.
[13:30:39] <chromas> That reminds me of fourth grade. The teacher would set us to work on whatever and say "I'll come breath heavily over your shoulders"
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[13:47:38] <crutchy> sedbot
[13:47:47] <crutchy> :-(
[13:48:04] <chromas> crutchy: s/(/)/
[13:48:05] <exec> last message by "crutchy" not found
[13:48:23] <crutchy> ke?
[13:48:38] <crutchy> s/?/ wtf!/
[13:48:39] <exec> <crutchy> ke wtf!
[13:48:56] <crutchy> ~bucket crutchy_last_message
[13:48:58] <exec> bucket not found
[13:49:06] <crutchy> ~buckets-list
[13:49:08] <exec> bucket list output to terminal
[13:49:09] <exec> bucket count: 22
[13:49:24] <crutchy> ~last_crutchy_#Soylent
[13:49:35] <crutchy> fuck
[13:49:43] <crutchy> ~bucket last_crutchy_#Soylent
[13:49:44] <exec> fuck
[13:49:47] <crutchy> lol
[13:50:02] <chromas> crutchy: s/o/olo/
[13:50:03] <exec> <chromas> <crutchy> lolol
[13:50:17] <chromas> yay
[13:50:21] <crutchy> ~bucket last_chromas_#Soylent
[13:50:23] <exec> yay
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[14:06:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[14:09:59] <crutchy> morning janrinok
[14:10:18] <crutchy> hi x0908d3b2
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[14:15:57] <paulej72> Hello everyone.
[14:16:52] <paulej72> I was very busy yesterday and was not online unitl late yesterday(actually early this morning).
[14:17:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[14:18:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i was out fishing then went snake hunting myself
[14:21:07] <crutchy> g'day paulej72
[14:21:20] <crutchy> hi SirFinkus
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[14:30:25] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[14:30:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> go coffee go
[14:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:30:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 274
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[14:31:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
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[14:31:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:31:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 275
[14:31:28] <Bytram> g'mornin!
[14:31:38] <Bytram> hold on a minute.. k?
[14:31:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure sure
[14:36:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima get a 4TB drive this summer to replace my two 1TB drives
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[14:41:30] <crutchy> mornin Bytram
[14:41:46] <Bytram> crutchy: g'mornin.
[14:42:17] <crutchy> sort of got some rss action goin on in #rss-bot
[14:42:39] <crutchy> still working out some of the kinks and adding features, but it seems to kinda work
[14:43:47] <crutchy> its been a bit spammy today unfortunately
[14:45:17] * Bytram just killed FF again. :/ 100% CPU :(
[14:45:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> palemoon ftw. no australis.
[14:46:56] <Bytram> FF 24.6.0 -- also no australis =)
[14:47:18] <Bytram> otoh, would be nice to have multiple browsers open at same time....
[14:47:32] <Bytram> how's palemoon compare on memory to FF ??
[14:50:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty much the same. possibly a bit less.
[14:50:34] <Bytram> crutchy++ Looks good from what I see, but I'm not sure I fully understand what it's doing? What is exec using for its input? I see output that does not seem to relate to the immediately-preceding regurgitator output.
[14:50:34] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 70
[14:50:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't had memory problems with FF in ages though, even using adblock plus
[14:50:55] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: darn; I can't handle two programs of that size at once. :/
[14:51:24] <crutchy> Bytram: its independent of regurgitator... it has its own feeds
[14:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> uses generally 7-10% of my 8G of ram at any given time.
[14:51:49] <crutchy> did you want exec to do something with the regurgitator output?
[14:51:50] <Bytram> ah. ok.
[14:51:54] <Bytram> brb
[14:51:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> when it goes over ten percent i just restart it
[14:52:03] <crutchy> ~feed-sources
[14:52:04] <exec> [GoogleGroups: networked-robots] [GoogleGroups: comp.ai.games] [GoogleGroups: comp.ai.nat-lang] [SpaceFuture] [GoogleGroups: sci.electronics.design] [GoogleGroups: comp.misc] [GoogleGroups: comp.arch] [The Daily WTF] [Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)] [space.io9.com] [Canadian Space Agency] [Sci/Tech - Google News]
[14:52:27] <crutchy> not many atm, but can build on them
[14:53:06] <crutchy> regurgitator is probably a better bot for this rss stuff, but it was fun to make
[14:56:17] <crutchy> there seems to be a few similar stories (from different sources) picked up by google news's rss feed
[14:56:46] <crutchy> if its too trashy might delete it from the list
[14:57:08] <Bytram> atm I'm trying to figure out why I saw "nb-178-79-175-231.london.nodebalancer.linode.com" appear when I restarted FF this morning.
[14:57:39] <Bytram> why in the world would our stuff (I'm assuming it's from SN in some form) go through LONDON?
[14:57:44] <crutchy> ff crashed with that in a tab?
[14:57:51] <Bytram> nah.
[14:57:52] <crutchy> oh
[14:58:37] <crutchy> maybe xlefay has pned your pyewta
[14:59:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you on a vpn or something?
[14:59:16] <Bytram> I've got about 20 tabs open, but I run another program which tracks/display connections on windows: TCPView from SysInternals, and that london address popped up when I reloaded FF
[14:59:40] <Bytram> something... tethered phone
[14:59:48] <crutchy> its those fuckin pikeys
[15:00:01] <crutchy> i fuckin 'ate pikeys
[15:01:07] <crutchy> might be some kind of akamai bs
[15:01:10] <Bytram> crutchy: I just had an idea... rather than having possibly redundant rss feeds appearing in the same channel, how 'bout creating another one and run your bot there?
[15:01:35] <crutchy> np
[15:02:51] <crutchy> done
[15:03:43] <Bytram> Reason being, I'm in hopes of writing something where I can pull a D/L from Loggie's log, and reformat it as an HTML table with sortable columns and, if I can figure out how, search/suppression of key word(s).
[15:03:55] <Bytram> crutchy: well, THAT was fast!
[15:04:02] <Bytram> what's the channel?
[15:04:08] <crutchy> #~
[15:04:25] <Bytram> that's obviously quite self explanatory!
[15:04:39] <Bytram> =)
[15:04:44] <crutchy> Bytram: if you want i can spit out exec's feed to a web-accessible location in a specific format
[15:05:00] <Bytram> how 'bout #rss-bot-exec
[15:05:21] <crutchy> exec's logs are already accessible here: http://irciv.us.to
[15:05:41] <Bytram> crutchy: hmmm, I'll keep it in mind. Got too much else on my mind right now to get into it atm.
[15:06:27] <crutchy> #rss-bot-exec done
[15:07:57] <Bytram> crutchy: neat! I tried to do a /invite Loggie but I ain't got the privs... would you please be so kind?
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[15:14:31] <exec> exec sed disabled
[15:14:31] <exec> exec sed disabled
[15:14:32] <exec> exec sed disabled
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[15:15:12] <crutchy> lol
[15:15:38] <crutchy> apparently exec sed is disabled... 3 times :-P
[15:15:47] <crutchy> hi FoobarBazbot
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[15:19:03] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: BTW, I found a couple URLs that will prove useful in testing UTF-8 support...
[15:19:07] <Bytram> http://unicode.org
[15:19:08] <monopoly> 14└ 9Unicode Utilities: Confusables
[15:20:07] <Bytram> and: http://unicode.org
[15:20:09] <monopoly> 14└ 9Unicode Utilities: UnicodeSet
[15:20:43] <Bytram> Aaannd another: http://websec.github.io
[15:20:44] <monopoly> 14└ 9Unicode Security Guide ( http://websec.github.io )
[15:21:11] <ar> http://css.csail.mit.edu
[15:21:11] <monopoly> 14└ 9STACK
[15:21:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study: Internet Trolls are the "Prototypical Everyday Sadists" - http://sylnt.us - Billy-Goats-Gruff
[15:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully the only issues will be edge cases where something is and shouldn't be decoded or is and shouldn't be encoded. as for which slices of unicode will work, all of the valid ones unless there's a bug in perl itself.
[15:21:34] <Bytram> http://css.csail.mit.edu
[15:21:34] <monopoly> 14└ 9404 Not Found
[15:21:36] <Bytram> =)
[15:22:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> as a general rule, we don't encode/decode the unicode at all
[15:23:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Yes, that's what I'm thinking, too. OTOH, that is what I *want* to be thinking... I'd like to try some extra weirdness here, first before we roll it out and the community shows us how it's *really* done, if you know what I mean!
[15:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep yep
[15:24:13] <Bytram> So, iow, *NO* transforms? Deletions - yes; transform - no?
[15:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm more concerned about putting it everywhere and making sure nothing is doing what it's not supposed to
[15:24:36] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: don't use no double negatives!
[15:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> essentially. the place where we check that it's a valid character and the one where we check against the blocklist either return the character exactly as passed to the sub or return an empty string.
[15:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> the valid character check only makes sure it's below the 1114111 possible codepoints
[15:26:28] <Bytram> hmmm, offhand, that *sounds* good enough.
[15:26:35] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:27:03] <Bytram> otoh, watch out for something like this... It'll take me two entries here, so hold on
[15:27:11] <Bytram> ample.com/foo/bar
[15:27:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i made a point not to decode then reencode it anywhere it was my choice.
[15:27:23] <Bytram> s#am#http://exam#
[15:27:23] <SedBot> <Bytram> http://example.com
[15:27:24] <monopoly> 14└ 9Example Domain
[15:27:36] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod
[15:29:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> things like the email digest and admin logs need to be double checked though
[15:29:47] <crutchy> ~part
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[15:30:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and i think rss needs a tweak
[15:30:57] <Bytram> oooh... Good one!
[15:31:13] <Bytram> what other SN interfaces are there?
[15:31:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[15:32:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not entirely sure. i only know what i've picked up as i went.
[15:33:44] <NCommander> My stomach hates me
[15:33:53] * NCommander can't win >.<;
[15:34:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, life certainly does seem to be giving you the shit end of the stick lately.
[15:35:31] <Bytram> ^^^
[15:35:55] <Bytram> ok, gtg; back in a bit
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[15:36:01] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, very much so
[15:36:09] * NCommander is dealing w/ real life issues as well -_-;
[15:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya, those are generally annoying at best.
[15:37:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> the code, it calls to me. i shall not touch it though. tis the weekend and it be off-fucking for me.
[15:41:59] <Bytram|afk> back for a couple minutes...
[15:42:37] <Bytram|afk> NCommander: when I restarted FF after a crash and it was reloading about 20+ tabs, I saw this in my list of network addresses that were loading: nb-178-79-175-231.london.nodebalancer.linode.com
[15:43:03] <Bytram|afk> do you have any idea why I'd see *us* going through *london* ????
[15:43:10] <NCommander> Bytram|afk, I don't think that's our LB
[15:43:22] <Bytram|afk> NCommander: and that's the last thing I'll ask you today. Hope you feel better *SOON*
[15:43:26] <NCommander> Name: soylentnews.org
[15:43:26] <NCommander> Address: 198.58.121.23
[15:43:30] <NCommander> ^- Bytram|afk
[15:43:36] <NCommander> Obviously, we're not the only site on Linode :-)
[15:43:54] <mrcoolbp> for good reason
[15:44:07] <Bytram|afk> NCommander: that's what I was hoping, but wanted to make sure something wasn't afoot for us. And yes, I thought about others using, Linode. just wanted confirmation;
[15:44:17] <Bytram|afk> mrcoolbp: g'morning!
[15:44:26] <mrcoolbp> g'mornin'
[15:45:10] <Bytram|afk> btw, crutchy created a new channel for *his* rss scraping bot: #rss-bot-exec but we can't seem to get .op to work for any of us. suggestions?
[15:45:46] <Bytram|afk> mrcoolbp: ^^
[15:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, mrcoolbp
[15:46:10] <mrcoolbp> .op
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[15:54:44] <NCommander> Damn it
[15:54:47] <NCommander> It's official
[15:54:49] * NCommander is sick
[15:55:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the up side, i generally don't want to smoke when i'm sick
[15:56:29] <Bytram|afk> {{{{ NCommander }}}} Hope you feel better soon - take gentle care of yourself for the day
[15:58:06] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, I wish I had that problem
[15:58:34] <NCommander> Fuck, I walked two miles in Texas to buy a pack of smokes when I was horribly sick
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[15:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerg
[15:58:54] <NCommander> I'm a dedicated smoker
[15:59:03] <NCommander> :-) or :-( depending on your perspective
[15:59:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, gotta admire dedication whatever its source
[15:59:34] <ar> http://www.emsec.rub.de - Stealthy Dopant-Level Hardware Trojans
[15:59:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> pdf FTL
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[16:06:43] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: ping
[16:09:11] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: hope you feel better soon
[16:09:25] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: time to rest/relax for you
[16:09:28] <paulej72> NCommander: I would suggest getting some fluids and rest. Feel better soon :)
[16:09:38] <mrcoolbp> ^^^^
[16:09:38] <NCommander> I'd love to, but I'm having a dispute w/ my mom
[16:09:44] * NCommander can't go to the apartment until 4
[16:09:57] <NCommander> I put off going back to New York for two days, and then ... ARGH
[16:10:20] * NCommander seriously debates just going back ont he road and renting an apartment someplace far far away
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[16:21:11] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: still, please consider just taking a day or so to rest/destress etc.
[16:23:17] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, its not that simple
[16:23:35] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: make it that simple
[16:24:26] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, my problems aren't SN related
[16:24:27] <NCommander> At all
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[16:43:55] <SoyCow7231> hi
[16:44:26] <mrcoolbp> .deop
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[16:53:10] <mrcoolbp> !woop
[16:53:10] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[16:53:24] <mrcoolbp> !uid
[16:53:24] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4484, owned by GeekDad
[16:54:01] <mrcoolbp> sup guyz
[16:54:13] <mrcoolbp> s/uz/us/
[16:54:15] <janrinok|afk> hi mrcoolbp
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[16:55:05] <mrcoolbp> hi janrinok
[16:55:14] <janrinok> how's things?
[16:55:43] <mrcoolbp> not bad, in the cape with my family
[16:55:51] <mrcoolbp> so I really can't comlain
[16:55:55] <mrcoolbp> how about you?
[16:55:58] <janrinok> nice - so why are you on here?
[16:56:43] <janrinok> things are good - having an easy Sunday, just cooking some lamb for dinner and will probably have a glass or 3 of wine with that.
[17:02:37] <janrinok> ... must have said the wrong thing again....
[17:04:27] <mrcoolbp> it's just the morning, just waiting for everyone to wake up
[17:04:37] <mrcoolbp> lamb sounds delicious
[17:05:21] <janrinok> ah ok. Yes, slow roast lamb, carrots tossed in honey and chilli, and a savoury rice.
[17:05:36] <mrcoolbp> damn
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[17:06:26] <janrinok> I've become reasonably competent in the kitchen - needs must, and all that, but must go for a few mins. bb in 10
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[17:11:04] <mrcoolbp> yeah, I gotta run soon
[17:20:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Design a Web Application with a 40+ Year Lifetime? - http://sylnt.us - XML-on-Stone-Tablets
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[19:30:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - USA has Lost More Than 400 Drones in Crashes - http://sylnt.us - its-raining-drones-Hallelujah!
[19:45:30] <kobach> what a shitty country
[19:55:02] <janrinok> any country in particular kobach ?
[19:55:22] <janrinok> or do you mean the latest story - USA?
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[21:42:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia Plans to Dump Some American CPUs for Home-Grown Technology - http://sylnt.us - chipski
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[23:37:56] <crutchy> mornin
[23:37:59] <crutchy> cofee++
[23:37:59] <Bender> karma - cofee: 2
[23:38:07] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:38:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 276
[23:40:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proposed Molten Salt Reactor that Eats Nuclear Waste - http://sylnt.us - there-must-be-a-downside
[23:54:10] <chromas> from the-downside-is-it-poops-nuclear-lava dept
[23:56:16] <arti> that's some hot lava
[23:56:29] * arti sets mode +fun
[23:56:42] <chromas> Don't step on the nuclear lava!
[23:56:57] <arti> building an austin powers nemesis bunker
[23:57:04] <arti> "liquid hot magma"
[23:59:18] <crutchy> arti: s/magma/""magama""/
[23:59:18] <SedBot> <crutchy> <arti> "liquid hot ""magama"""
[23:59:26] <arti> indeed
[23:59:36] <arti> made friends with a neighbor