#editorial | Logs for 2018-03-04
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[23:49:35] <Bytram> story has a nice history of other platforms launch cadence progress
[23:49:00] <Bytram> not terribly important, but an important milestone
[23:48:41] <Bytram> I dunno. Just saw it in #rss-bot and went to see what was up.
[23:47:53] <takyon> is 50 launches worth a story?
[23:44:18] <exec> └─ 13Mayors of America demand net neutrality protections… again • The Register
[23:44:16] <upstart> ^ 03Mayors of America demand net neutrality protections… again • The Register ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[23:44:15] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
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[23:43:53] <exec> └─ 13The Falcon 9 rocket may reach 50 launches on Tuesday | Ars Technica
[23:43:51] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[23:43:48] <Bytram> whatever works for you!
[23:43:42] <exec> Yes, make me the Bot King!
[23:43:16] <chromas> I should just add redirect urls to exec since he's around more
[23:42:52] <Bytram> it has proved to be a tremendously useful tool.
[23:42:28] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:42:24] <chromas> oh yeah. rebooted the box earlier
[23:41:58] <Bytram> chromas: looks like upstart is awol?
[23:41:31] <exec> └─ 13Mayors of America demand net neutrality protections… again • The Register
[23:41:28] <Bytram> whereto? http://go.theregister.com
[23:09:33] * Bytram heads to his kitchen to prepare a bite to eat
[23:09:02] * Bytram gives chromas a flagging instead... and 2 minutes in the penalty box.
[22:37:12] * chromas stands by for a flogging
[22:37:10] <chromas> Well, I meant to mention the poll
[22:36:28] <takyon> speak of the devil
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[22:35:54] <exec> └─ 13WhosWho - SoylentNews
[22:35:51] <takyon> time to update: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[22:35:45] <takyon> we have new eds right?
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[20:15:11] <exec> └─ 13- SoylentNews User
[20:15:08] * Bytram added a blockquote of what I think is relevant text from the linked article, as well as an [Ed note] of some of the impact of the proceedings... JR has offered feedback, would appreciate another set of eyes on it. https://soylentnews.org
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[19:58:43] <janrinok> and you pal
[19:58:35] <Bytram> good to see ya --- have a GREAT night!
[19:58:28] <Bytram> agreed
[19:58:10] <janrinok> I've got to go - S is waiting to go to sleep. Have a good one and hopefully will speak to you tomorrow
[19:57:35] <janrinok> there is no law of the internet - and no one country should be able to dictate such a thing
[19:57:31] <Bytram> real close now
[19:57:25] <Bytram> looking for a selection I can blockquote in the front part
[19:57:03] <janrinok> yep, exactly. This is a major issue and worth discussing - but the implications are far-reaching
[19:56:25] <Bytram> no, but would prolly not mind imposing us law on them... :/ see, for example, microsoft vs us wrt irish emails (IIRC)
[19:55:41] <janrinok> would the US consider itself bound, for example, by Saudi or Iranian law?
[19:55:10] <janrinok> that is similar to one of the main reasons why the UK wants out of Europe. We are being controlled by laws that we don't agree with
[19:55:03] <Bytram> good point
[19:54:21] <janrinok> Issues such as why should a US organisation be subject to German laws - I find it amazing that a US judge has come down that way
[19:54:02] <Bytram> though I understand your distinction on "opinion" tags, I think it serves a valuable purpose separating what he is attempting to portray as a summary of *what* happened, separate and distinct about what he *thinks* about it.
[19:53:12] <Bytram> apprecaite it
[19:53:00] <janrinok> wasn't sure if you were away rewriting everything again :0
[19:52:42] <Bytram> pong
[19:52:37] <janrinok> Bytram ^^ ping
[19:52:26] <janrinok> The first part, when looked at in that context, is OK apart from minor layout issues. I wouldn't bother with the <opinion> tags, as the whole thing is 'opinion' or his version of events. I would rewrite the extended text to open up the discussion on the implications of what has happened
[19:50:01] <janrinok> Looking at the source, it is not an easy one to write so I can see why FB has done it the way he has. I would rewrite it as a discussion, explaining what has occurred and making very few, if any, direct quotations.
[19:49:01] * Bytram goes back in for a 2nd look
[19:48:51] <Bytram> k
[19:48:51] <Bytram> hrrm
[19:48:35] <janrinok> FB makes valid points which are important, but as it reads at the moment it is a bit confusing (to me). The layout needs tidying up which would also help
[19:47:57] <Bytram> thanks!
[19:47:56] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:47:47] <janrinok> I'd need to give that one more thought if you are asking how I would do it - I might even had considered a rewrite.
[19:46:18] <Bytram> thought of that, but the reporting, as far as I could tell, was a summary of the referenced material... not a direct quote.
[19:45:43] <janrinok> should the quoted bit be in <blockquote> which would make that part easily identifiable. Then leaving FB's own words outside the blockquote indicate it is original material
[19:45:33] <Bytram> understood. I am open to other viewpoints on this and wonder what you would have done.
[19:44:13] <janrinok> as long as it is clear that it is opinion and if you think it adds value to the story, then that is an editorial choice
[19:43:30] * Bytram clicks save
[19:43:22] <Bytram> not sure if I handlded the gutenberg story well... trying to separate the 'reporting' from the 'opinion' --- should we keep the opinion? I think it was submitted well, and would like to keep it.
[19:40:56] <Bytram> "long pig"
[19:40:42] <janrinok> yes, but I can't eat a full one nowadays. My appetite is not what it once was ...
[19:39:56] * Bytram still needs humans, too.
[19:39:31] <janrinok> *still need human
[19:39:14] <janrinok> I've made great progress with Arthur this weekend - it is functioning much better now and I'm just working on the automatic submission routine. It will still human intervention but much less than before, and the submission is much easier to process.
[19:34:21] <Bytram> gutenberg
[19:33:47] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 160
[19:33:47] <janrinok> teamwork++
[19:33:32] <Bender> karma - bytram: 59
[19:33:32] <janrinok> Bytram++
[19:33:23] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 54
[19:33:23] <Bytram> janrinok++
[19:33:13] <janrinok> fixed now and set to Display
[19:33:03] <Bytram> =)
[19:33:02] <Bytram> lol
[19:32:59] <Bytram> I added another sentence, and still got a bunch of hits... that forced me to take another look at the original sub
[19:32:49] <janrinok> that's why there are now 4 extra links
[19:32:32] <janrinok> so did I
[19:32:24] <janrinok> !guess
[19:32:22] <Bytram> what I did was, after seeing your msg in here, was grab a sentence that seemed selective and did a search for it... got a bunch of hits so
[19:32:18] <janrinok> The data after the '?' was missing in the story that was there originally, which resulted in me getting the AP page I gues
[19:31:35] <janrinok> well the link in the original story was not the same as the one that you gave me - I have corrected it
[19:31:11] <exec> └─ 13independentmail.com: AP News
[19:31:09] <upstart> ^ 03independentmail.com: AP News
[19:31:09] <Bytram> link was: http://hosted.ap.org
[19:30:45] * Bytram just looked at the original submission and the first link in it worked for me, too.
[19:30:00] <Bytram> oops
[19:29:53] <janrinok> All I got was a map of the US asking me to select which state I wanted the news reporting for ...
[19:29:41] * Bytram had just started looking at it
[19:29:35] <Bytram> ahhh, those were yours?
[19:29:26] <janrinok> Bytram, thanks, I've also added handful of additional links
[19:29:15] <Bytram> janrinok: I had no trouble getting to the story from the provided first link.
[19:24:54] <upstart> ^ 03News From The Associated Press | jacksonsun.com |
[19:24:53] <exec> └─ 13News From The Associated Press | jacksonsun.com |
[19:24:51] <Bytram> http://hosted.ap.org
[19:07:48] <janrinok> Fnord666, your Animal Abuse Legislation has no link to the source material - I get a graphic for AP News but nothing that takes me to the story I've delayed it and moved another story in its place
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[15:59:20] <janrinok> laters!
[15:58:08] <Bytram> laters!
[15:58:05] <Bytram> =)
[15:57:59] <Bytram> reminds me, it's well past time for me to catch up on my dusting!
[15:57:40] * Bytram bats eyelids
[15:57:18] <janrinok> now don't go getting all coy on me
[15:57:08] <Bytram> awww, shucks! =)
[15:56:59] <janrinok> S says thank you, and sends her best wishes to you too
[15:56:57] * Bytram seriously considers making a bite to eat and laying down for a nap
[15:56:31] <janrinok> likewise, and I will
[15:56:24] <Bytram> give my best to S!
[15:56:16] <Bytram> enjoyed chatting with ya!
[15:56:10] <janrinok> * for me
[15:56:09] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:56:03] <janrinok> almost time for be to go and start preparing our evening meal
[15:55:27] * exec cromulently hallucinates a tinfoil hat of source code with fyngyrz
[15:55:25] <Bytram> ~gday fyngyrz
[15:55:20] * exec implicitly writes a fanfic featuring a FAT16 volume of doughnuts about Fnord666
[15:55:18] <Bytram> ~gday Fnord666
[15:54:42] <Bytram> ~day fyngyrz
[15:51:40] * exec metrosexually irritates a hammerfs volume of red beans & cabbage with fyngyrz
[15:51:38] <janrinok> ~gday fyngyrz
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[15:42:28] <Bytram> k
[15:39:37] <janrinok> brb nurse
[15:39:32] <Bytram> or, to carry a math analogy to its opposite: on normals
[15:38:50] <janrinok> well, it's not the end of the world but probably best he seeks advice before going off on tangents
[15:37:56] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Best programming font?
[15:37:53] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Best programming font? ( https://soylentnews.org )
[15:37:52] <Bytram> well, it is according to TMB: https://soylentnews.org
[15:37:52] <janrinok> he never mentioned it...
[15:37:35] <janrinok> could be - dunno
[15:37:26] <Bytram> looks like chromas posted the poll?
[15:37:17] <janrinok> mine is just 'Monospace'
[15:36:25] * Bytram prefers Lucida Console
[15:36:24] <janrinok> they are - see the comments
[15:36:15] * Bytram suspects some of those might be proportional fonts... shudder
[15:35:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:35:30] <janrinok> the font one? Not sure where that came from, and I don't think very much of it, tbh
[15:34:11] * Bytram just notices the new poll
[07:26:44] -!- mode/#editorial [+v janrinok] by Hephaestus
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[02:45:39] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[02:45:33] * Bytram heads off to bed
[02:45:21] <Bytram> CoolHand: mrpg; thanks for pushing out stories, too!
[02:45:02] <Bytram> hey!
[02:44:59] * Bytram scrolls down
[02:44:29] <Bytram> janrinok: Fnord666: thanks for filling the story queue!!
[01:44:07] <exec> 870 stories loaded
[01:44:01] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:43:30] <exec> attempting to submit story: "The risk of nitrites and nitrates in bacon"
[01:43:30] <exec> 870 stories loaded
[01:43:25] <Bytram> ~arthur 8c4895
[01:42:49] <exec> └─ 13Yes, bacon really is killing us | News | The Guardian
[01:42:47] <upstart> ^ 03Yes, bacon really is killing us | News | The Guardian
[01:42:46] <Bytram> oh noes!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.theguardian.com