#editorial | Logs for 2017-05-19
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[23:50:43] <charon_> hah, poor Xyem. I see you had an encounter with jasassin. my sympathies
[23:20:37] <nick> you wouldn't appreciate the carrot unless you've been beaten half to death with the stick
[23:20:10] <Deucalion> ehhh... I sent invites n all :P
[23:20:09] <charon_> now i see the violence inherent in the system
[23:19:54] <charon_> suuuuure
[23:19:42] <Deucalion> muchos apoligensias charon_
[23:16:48] <nick> there's a suggestions box you could submit your concerns to... it's made from the head of the last person who complained
[23:15:49] <charon_> help help, i'm being repressed
[23:13:11] <charon_> so geeky no one would get it
[23:12:54] <charon_> i would buy a t-shirt that has a waveform of that sound
[23:12:47] <nick> i dont know that, but i'm guessing it would work pretty well
[23:12:29] <Xyem> How about the modem handshake remixed with the Enterprise's red alert siren?
[23:12:26] <nick> hipsters, get on it.
[23:12:20] <nick> that sound needs to make a comeback, it's got to be retro by now
[23:12:04] <charon_> ok, i can go with a modem handshake
[23:11:43] <nick> actually, maybe the sound of a dialup modem connecting would be better
[23:11:33] <charon_> i'm partial to the old mac OS "eeep!"
[23:10:52] <nick> only if the sound is a mashup of window start-up music and the old AOL you got mail clip.
[23:10:46] <charon_> embedded vidoe of captain picard doing a facepalm
[23:10:34] <Xyem> And you have to click a big checkbox that unhides the editor UI to confirm you've seen the banner.
[23:10:04] <charon_> yes!
[23:09:56] <Xyem> With sound?
[23:09:47] <charon_> giant banner, <marquee> text, perhaps color changing
[23:09:25] <charon_> oh i see
[23:09:20] <nick> it's right there in bold text under the headline!
[23:09:07] <nick> easy to miss when you're not paying attention
[23:08:54] <charon_> if another editor is in the same story at the same time, some text will warn you, but it's easy to miss
[23:08:17] <charon_> no. there's some function that shows editorial sessions. what story they are in will appear at the bottom of the page.
[23:07:08] <Xyem> I already have something for Editor's notes, is that the same thing?
[23:06:19] <charon_> lol
[23:06:15] <Xyem> charon: Okay.
[23:06:03] <charon_> Xyem: to do: make a giant banner across the screen that says: "someone else it editing this story already, don't be a moron"
[23:05:03] <charon_> no worried, i was just making an initial survey, hadn't gotten far
[23:04:14] <charon_> oh, i didn't even notice you were in it too
[23:02:30] <nick> just saw we both ended up on the Dell story, and then i fucked it all up by not changing the date... but i think the queue is all in order again
[23:02:28] meetnotes is now known as charon_
[23:02:20] <meetnotes> hiyo nick, have you tried meetnotes yet?
[23:02:10] charon_ is now known as meetnotes
[23:00:57] <charon_> hiyo nick
[23:00:40] <charon_> a guy who used to work with me would buy a soda from me on his break and mockingly complain it wasn't cold enough and i should give it to him free for his inconvenience. alas it was not that far from reality
[22:52:25] <nick> well of course, but you know relative to other people's perspectives on realism vs cynicism
[22:51:39] * Deucalion has got the point that cynical does not exist, the shit I have seen with my own eyes, it's become realism. Working Retail / Hospitality / Restaurant just as a support... fuck me, the things the cmr's come up with to blag a freebie. I have no idea how the staff that have to deal with them every day don't carry battle axes.
[22:48:42] * Deucalion goes back to command line.... I'm not fit for human society :)
[22:48:32] <nick> i'm happy enough to feel there's people around as cynical as me
[22:48:10] <Deucalion> I feel replete. But what do you want nick? no-one ups me without wanting something.... FACK... I said /me cynic OFF
[22:47:08] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 6
[22:47:08] <nick> Deucalion++
[22:47:06] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 5
[22:47:06] <nick> Deucalion++
[22:46:52] <Deucalion> boo... can't hup own ego :/
[22:46:36] * nick pokes charon_
[22:46:34] <Deucalion> Deucalion++
[22:45:33] <Deucalion> charon_, my cynicism is debilitating, I can no longer function in a normal way. I've seen TOO MUCH.
[22:42:54] <charon_> also, thanks for the cynicism, it's actually worse than my own
[22:42:35] <Bender> karma - deucalion: 4
[22:42:35] <charon_> Deucalion++ for using the correct word "horde"
[22:41:47] * Deucalion cynic off
[22:41:37] <Deucalion> Then demanding shit for free because YOU inconvenienced them
[22:41:13] <Deucalion> They wait outside in a horde until they see a customer being awkward or time consuming - then all flood in..... be on the watch for someone filming it on their phone in order to then post a complain vidya about how slow your service is :D
[22:40:53] <Xyem> Custimagic.
[22:38:50] <charon_> man, how do customers B through K know when customer A is here so they can come at exactly the same time?
[22:38:13] <charon_> as well as work at my real job
[22:33:21] <Xyem> I'm happy to do more practice submissions, but you can just do it when you're not busy.
[22:24:28] <charon_> but i also need to feed the beast that is the prod site
[22:24:03] <charon_> looking for more to do? i'll see about dropping in some more practice subs
[22:15:48] <charon_> not bad. ready for my work day to be over already. alas, i have 4 more hours
[22:14:12] <Xyem> Pretty good, thanks. How about with you?
[22:12:47] <charon_> how goes it Xyem?
[22:01:54] <Xyem> Evening charon
[21:47:05] * exec excoriatingly experiences a drawing of the Gilligan's Island theme song with editorial
[21:47:03] <charon_> ~gday editorial
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[21:10:10] <nick> "“Although there’s no recent history of terrorism in the British Antarctic Territory, attacks can’t be ruled out,” says the advisory. “There’s a heightened threat of terrorist attack globally against U.K. interests and British nationals, from groups or individuals motivated by the conflict in Iraq and Syria.”"
[21:09:37] <upstart> ^ 03U.K. Issues Antarctic Terrorism Alert
[21:09:35] <nick> http://www.maritime-executive.com
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[20:39:04] <meetnotes> i suppose digging a drainage channel is not likely
[20:37:30] <nick> don't want this every time it rains
[20:37:23] <nick> but still, i have chocolate milk and cigarettes so i'm not complaining.... just need to find something suitable seal the gap under the door
[20:36:00] <nick> it's a bit dodgy when you're carrying glasses and plates and you just start to slip
[20:35:39] <nick> i've been carefully plodding and sliding around this afternoon
[20:35:08] <meetnotes> if you used meetnotes, you could alert all your friends to come to your house and have a floor drying party
[20:34:47] <nick> if i opened the doors and windows at the moment, would just bring more rain in lol
[20:34:41] <Xyem> Do you have anything sled-like?
[20:34:18] <Fnord666> dehumidifier helps too if you have one. and lots of airflow
[20:34:18] <Xyem> Slippery floor? That sounds like an opportunity. Let the shenanigans begin!
[20:34:09] <nick> which also solves other heating concerns, although it will be used sparingly.
[20:33:51] <nick> however, i decided to check out the a/c unit... and it also works as a heater, so i'm using that to dry the rest out
[20:33:38] <Fnord666> no damage is good
[20:33:26] <nick> nothing damaged, and i managed to scoop up most of it.... but it does mean the floor is rather slippery right now
[20:33:16] <Fnord666> oh dear.
[20:33:06] <nick> storm last night managed to blow almost an inch of rain into the area by the front door
[20:33:03] <Fnord666> Well that kind of sucks
[20:32:44] <nick> Fnord666, unfortunately it is inside
[20:32:31] <Xyem> How goes things?
[20:32:20] <Xyem> meetnotes: Evening.
[20:31:52] <nick> ahoy meatspam
[20:31:44] <Fnord666> As long as the flood is outside and not inside.
[20:31:38] <nick> it works for me, maybe it's a bit of a weird thing i guess?
[20:31:23] <meetnotes> hiyo Fnord666, nick, Xyem
[20:31:18] <Xyem> Indeed I am, thanks :)
[20:31:05] <Fnord666> umm...yum?
[20:30:50] <nick> i really can't complain, aside from a minor floor by my front door all is well... savouring my afternoon snack of cigarettes and chocolate milk
[20:30:26] <Fnord666> Nice to meet you Xyem. Enjoying things so far?
[20:30:07] <Fnord666> ?
[20:30:03] <Fnord666> nick - busier that a one legged man in an ass kicking contest but other than that I'm good. Yourself
[20:29:39] <Fnord666> Howdy Xyem
[20:29:23] <Xyem> Evening Fnord
[20:29:12] <nick> how's shit
[20:29:03] <Fnord666> hey nick
[20:28:43] <nick> ahoy-hoy Fnord666
[20:28:04] <Fnord666> Howdy #editorial!
[20:21:24] <Xyem> Dual screens are nice :)
[20:15:57] <meetnotes> cmn32480: now i see why gewg doesn't like you
[20:15:28] <Deucalion> cmn32480, was busy setting up my 2nd screen - the pole and cable arrived for it while I was out working today. YAY! Rocking dual 24" - and man is it *nice* to have all this workspace!
[20:15:16] <meetnotes> awww, you kicked me
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[20:02:51] * cmn32480 notes that it took Deucalion 2 minutes and 14 seconds to chide him about the privs thing... somebody is slacking.
[20:01:00] <nick> cmn32480, no basement... strong storm all night, still raining now, managed to blow in almost an inch of water that pooled up by the front door
[20:00:50] <chromas> Yeah, that would be great.
[19:59:53] <cmn32480> shoudl I take care of the cockroach problem while I'm down there?
[19:59:35] <chromas> cmn32480: not fire, just move you down into Storage B.
[19:58:29] <cmn32480> indoor swimming pool? basement flooded?
[19:57:42] <cmn32480> Deucalion - should you choose to fire me, I would be eternally grateful
[19:55:33] <chromas> or no-eyes with a nose?
[19:55:32] * nick goes back to swimming in his indoor pool that the storm last night created
[19:55:24] <chromas> is that a cyclops face?
[19:52:51] <Deucalion> privileges can be removed just as easily as they were given. >-|
[19:50:37] <cmn32480> it was deserved!
[19:50:22] <nick> lol
[19:45:25] -!- meetnotes was kicked from #editorial by Hephaestus!Hephaestus@dodekatheon.olympus.gr [(cmn32480) No reason given]
[19:45:25] <cmn32480> .kick meetnotes
[19:45:15] * MrPlow smakes meetnotes upside the head with a fistful of dollars
[19:45:15] <cmn32480> #smake meetnotes
[19:45:09] * MrPlow smakes charon_ upside the head with a trojan horse penis
[19:45:09] <cmn32480> #smake charon_
[19:34:51] <meetnotes> i'd like to complain that you guys refuse to run my story about meetnotes, the most revolutionary software ever
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[13:04:38] <Bytram> apprecaite the quick response!
[13:04:32] <Bytram> urgh... was SO useful. Maybe that was earlier than XP. Is one of the problems of being a gray/white beard... know too much stuff!
[13:00:27] <cmn32480> AFAIK that only happens in remote desktop
[12:47:34] <Bytram> afk back in about 15 minutes
[12:47:14] <Bytram> PS: when running 'docked' I do not use the lappy's display at all.
[12:46:16] <Bytram> everything got squished to fit to the 1024x768 and when I went back to the external monitor, things were all scrunched up into a corner. Is there a way to do the 'virtual desktop' with Win 7?
[12:46:16] <Bytram> cmn32480: Hi! Gots a quick question for ya... ISTR on my old lappy running XP, I could set things up so that when I was connected to my 1920x1200 external display, I used the whole available resolution, but when I was using the internal (1024x768) it would have a 'virtual' desktop that was still 1920x1200, and the lappy display would show me a 'window' onto it... was nice as it kept the same size/layout of all my programs. o/w
[12:12:04] <Bytram> gonna be afk for a bit
[12:11:57] <Bytram> is too hot to really concentrate much, am simultaneously trying to do some offline work stuff, and get ready for work...
[12:11:08] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:10:59] <Bytram> I see 6 without it, but whatevah
[12:10:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> technically you shouldn't but every other filter is using it. if you're going to be redundant, do it consistently.
[12:08:53] <Bytram> hmmm, why would I need the "g": flag?
[12:08:11] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 9
[12:08:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[12:08:08] <Bytram> thanks@!
[12:08:06] <Bytram> oh, okay
[12:07:52] <Bytram> something strange about "you got to 'create' it and save it, before you can put anything in it'
[12:07:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you missed the g flag and put two other flags to 1 where it should have been 0
[12:07:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I got it to work using the UI
[12:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, db edited your filter n it shows up now
[12:06:41] <Bytram> cmn32480: at least it is supposed to... please give it a test.
[12:06:27] <Bytram> Please do not spam our story submission queue."
[12:06:26] <Bytram> now, whenever a submitted story contains 'meetnotes' any place in the story text (upper/lowercase ignored), they will get a message: "
[12:05:17] <Bytram> don't remember what exactly I did except kept trying buttons to create a new submission filter until I got one that was more reasonable (75) and then went and filled it out and saved it.
[12:01:00] <Bytram> is also 90+ degrees in my room atm and am finding it a bit challenging to concentrate.
[12:00:32] <Bytram> I've run into this before, and I know PJ has a workaround... is not coming to me immediately... :/
[11:59:49] <Xyem> Yay for tiling WMs!
[11:59:46] <Bytram> followed through anyway, and tried to save it, but does not seem to have 'taken'
[11:59:31] <Xyem> I only refresh the queue in the window that has only had the queue open (not editing).
[11:59:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: cmn32480; tried to create a meetnotes filter... gave me a massive and strange filter ID # ( 90922079 )
[11:53:25] * cmn32480 siuts upright
[11:53:18] * Bytram sits corrected.
[11:53:07] * cmn32480 still does it occassionally by accident
[11:52:46] <cmn32480> not back
[11:52:38] <cmn32480> Refresh
[11:52:13] <Bytram> we had a problem in the past 9and I think it's still there) that if you save a story, do "back" in your browser" and edit it again, there ends up being TWO copies in the story queue.
[11:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, best practices are all fine and good but much like you must consider edge cases in code, you must consider the possibility that you'll not pay attention and screw up in analog mode as well.
[11:51:21] <Bytram> is tempting to *know* that I've just made a little change and skip the preview step -- it's bit me more times than I can count.
[11:50:48] <Bytram> WOnDERFUL!
[11:50:01] <Xyem> I don't close anything until I see it at the top of the list in the other window.
[11:49:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, Bytram can do you up a filter. he's played with em before.
[11:49:31] <Bytram> Xyem: that *sounds* reasonable. assuming you haven't already closed the tab/window. Go ahead and try it on dev and see what happens... ;)
[11:48:48] * cmn32480 runs TMB through the rinse cycle
[11:48:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, oh probably but fuck if i know what it is while my brain feels like it's been stuffed in a dirty gym sock
[11:48:04] <Xyem> Without looking at it.. the "back" button. Then preview it again to make sure nothing was lost.
[11:46:27] <Bytram> Xyem: sounds good, but how are you going to find the story?
[11:46:13] <Bytram> cmn32480: hmm, or is that wrt comments. :/
[11:45:59] <Bytram> cmn32480: yes, add a filter on one or more keywords that WILL catch the spam and not affect other submissions
[11:45:42] <Xyem> Bytram: Open the story back up and change the date?
[11:45:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> not so much an option for Xyem though
[11:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i dunno about you but i edit the db to make it a future date
[11:45:16] <upstart> ^ 03Search 'meetnotes'
[11:45:14] <cmn32480> https://soylentnews.org
[11:45:06] <cmn32480> TheMightyBuzzard, any way we can stop the mneetnotes spam we are getting in the sub queue once a week for the last 4 weeks?
[11:44:38] <Bytram> for example, a typo in the release date/time field causes it to go '1970-01-01" (IIRC) how do you recover the story?
[11:43:50] <Bytram> there's the learning about what to do when when I accidentally did something worng!
[11:43:36] <Bytram> it's not so much learning from doing the right things...
[11:43:23] <Bytram> more practice would be good...
[11:39:11] <Xyem> If I did alright with the "editor test", should I ask to be made an editor on production or is there something else I should do first (more practice perhaps)?
[11:32:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg, i was bout to copy pasta that
[11:31:50] <upstart> ^ 03Julian Assange rape charges dropped, but he still faces arrest - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[11:31:47] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[10:39:21] <Bytram> ~tell charon Just another 30 or so stories and you'll overtake takyon on the "Most Active Authors" chart: https://soylentnews.org
[10:34:02] <chromas> internet must be batin'
[10:33:45] <upstart> ^ 03FCC votes to overturn net neutrality rules - BBC News
[10:33:33] <Bytram> http://www.bbc.co.uk
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[08:46:11] <Xyem> I'm surprised the story about that woman who didn't get a criminal charge because it would ruin her career hasn't got into the submissions list yet..
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[03:14:06] <nick> take care Bytram
[03:14:03] * nick hat tip
[03:10:26] <Bytram> and I think it's time for me to get some shuteye... catch ya on the flip side.
[03:10:06] <Bytram> just finished 2nding stories in the queue, didn't see anything really amiss... kinda bring actually... and that's a GOOD thing! You guys are the best!
[02:49:31] <Bytram> (not to be confused with "plugh" IIRC, a magic word in Colossal Cave)
[02:49:04] <Bytram> "plough" would have been nice or twice, as well.
[02:48:38] <Bytram> *chuckles*
[02:45:59] <nick> got to be a record for using 'plow' multiple times in one story, including headline, dept, submitter and the summary
[02:44:41] <Bytram> nick: great dept line in the Chinese plow story!
[02:39:28] <Bytram> so glad to hear it!
[02:39:14] <nick> laptop is doing good, working well for everything ive used it for so far
[02:38:14] <Bytram> that WOULD cut down on visibility just a tad, I suppose.
[02:38:12] <nick> then a road trip down to TX and then FL
[02:37:55] <nick> would like to but it's probably not going to happen, going to be going back to MI to see the sights i didn't and do the touristy bit, that was under several feet of snow last time i was there
[02:36:21] <Bytram> btw, how's that new laptop working out for ya?
[02:36:13] <Bytram> let me know if you are ever heading up to the northeast US -- would be nice to get together and chat.
[02:34:44] <nick> although i will be heading back to the US in a couple months or so
[02:33:54] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:33:04] <nick> yup
[02:32:23] <Bytram> ahh, you're still in the southern hemisphere? As we approach summer up here, you are heading into winter, right?
[02:32:00] <nick> definitely heading into more wintery weather
[02:31:52] <nick> things are alright... strong winds today, so its been rather cool
[02:26:58] <Bytram> nick: hows things? Had an untimely scorcher here today... temps got up to 90+ degrees Fahrenheit
[02:26:05] <Bytram> ;)
[02:23:44] <nick> well obviously
[02:22:30] <exec> <Bytram> <nick> im sure theres a sick joke to be made there somewhere
[02:22:28] <Bytram> nick: s/a /a sick /
[02:20:37] <nick> im sure theres a joke to be made there somewhere
[02:16:40] <upstart> ^ 033 Injured, One Critically, In Fire At Google I/O Conference laquo CBS San Francisco
[02:16:39] <Bytram> http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com
[02:13:59] <upstart> ^ 03Fire at Google I/O conference injures 3 - CNET ( https://www.cnet.com )
[02:13:56] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com