#editorial | Logs for 2015-03-04
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[23:46:45] <mrcoolbp> yeah boy!
[23:45:39] <n1> i can sign off on it now if you're done there
[23:44:29] <n1> awesome, thanks :)
[23:42:51] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Error
[23:42:51] <mrcoolbp> nick: http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:37] <n1> that would be great
[23:21:17] <mrcoolbp> I can do a few
[23:19:50] <n1> there is no rush, but if you do have any time this evening. i made a few submissions that should be ready to go, if you could pick a couple to top up the queue... i'm basically waiting on submissions that are not mine.
[23:18:19] <n1> heheh
[23:18:07] * mrcoolbp hacks away at the wording on bot story
[23:14:33] <n1> it seems odd, not getting many submissions but the site seems relatively busy
[23:12:13] <n1> thanks, mrcoolbp
[23:08:48] <mrcoolbp> Azrael: can you link me to your WYSIWYG extension for soylent editing?
[23:07:04] <mrcoolbp> nick: I'm going to take a look at the bot story now
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[20:19:19] <janrinok> ditto
[20:19:10] <n1> good work man
[20:19:10] <janrinok> Take care and see you
[20:18:56] <janrinok> that's for tomorrow, or whenever the counter runs.
[20:18:31] <n1> take care and congrats on the 1500!
[20:18:12] <janrinok> ok - I should be here and I'll see you then
[20:17:53] <n1> i should be around in the evening at some point
[20:17:03] <janrinok> almost my time to go for the evening. You back on tomorrow or pulling cables and things?
[20:14:50] <janrinok> tomorrow will be another milestone for me - should pass the 1,500 barrier. I might have my weekly beer and pizza to celebrate
[20:12:21] <janrinok> as someone said about 4 hours ago - teamwork
[20:12:02] <n1> thanks for suggesting it!
[20:11:22] <janrinok> thx for using the dept :)
[20:10:01] <n1> or may forget at the time
[20:09:53] <n1> some people will have missed it
[20:08:50] <janrinok> because it's the sort of thing I would jump on here and say 'site is down!' and everyone would look at me and laugh - again
[20:08:18] <n1> will be sure to rage about it anonymously
[20:08:09] <n1> yeah, i did see
[20:07:41] <janrinok> By the way nick - are you aware of the down time this coming saturday? There was a story on Monday about it.
[20:06:55] <janrinok> he is indeed - posted a few of his over the last week or so
[20:06:12] <n1> takyon is writing some good submissions
[19:51:10] <janrinok> zactly
[19:51:03] <n1> just like in the movies
[19:50:23] <janrinok> as long as they don't point those bright pew pew things at me
[19:49:48] <n1> space wouldn't be half as fun if it wasn't for the possibility of spaceship battles.
[19:48:52] <n1> lol
[19:48:42] <janrinok> we've got this sussed...
[19:48:26] <n1> for the americans anyway
[19:48:24] <janrinok> and then someone will blame the Republicans and all hell will let loose
[19:48:19] <n1> might be a day late, and a few billion dollars short
[19:47:56] <janrinok> you and me both ....
[19:47:50] <n1> old news.
[19:47:43] <janrinok> call this a story!?
[19:47:43] <n1> i deserve it
[19:47:26] <n1> "today" to "this week"
[19:47:26] <janrinok> as soon as it comes up I'm going to log on as AC and mock you
[19:47:18] <n1> actually, one word.
[19:47:07] <janrinok> lol
[19:47:00] <n1> shouldnt take that long to edit a story i only changed two words on...
[19:45:18] <janrinok> whistles the tune to "walkin' on the moon"
[19:45:04] <n1> like second one
[19:44:28] <janrinok> balloon to battlestar
[19:44:04] <janrinok> from airship to spaceship
[19:43:51] <n1> any suggestions on dept. title?
[19:36:39] <n1> there does seem to be some kind of tag on the nasa.gov link at the end
[19:35:24] <n1> and ive searched a few bits on google to no returns as being copypasta
[19:35:10] <mrcoolbp> cool, post it
[19:35:01] <n1> the links are all great
[19:34:53] <n1> and from an AC one would expect it to be maybe a political or something
[19:34:52] <mrcoolbp> yeah it is good, without checking the links and stuff though
[19:34:27] <n1> original submissions like this are usually about less 'general interest' type stories
[19:33:25] <n1> maybe 5% but you get what i mean
[19:33:13] <n1> top 1% of submissions good
[19:32:53] <n1> it's just good
[19:32:52] <mrcoolbp> hmm, only one entry on that IPID
[19:32:43] <n1> there's nothing wrong with the story
[19:32:25] <mrcoolbp> check the IPID?
[19:30:03] <n1> dont really want to change anything, cant see any real problems with it as is
[19:27:51] <janrinok> Yes, I like that story
[19:27:05] <janrinok> it has an IP that has not been seen before so someone wants to remain anon.
[19:26:36] <n1> 5 stars
[19:26:09] <n1> ive just been through it and it's a really good submission
[19:25:04] <janrinok> I haven't looked at it but a lot of people are just not logging in anymore. It could be a member of staff or a newbie - it makes it hard to tell which stories are genuine so you have to chase each link to make sure you're not being tricked.
[19:23:59] <n1> it seems to be a completely original submission
[19:23:52] <n1> i dont get why the NACA story was submitted by an AC
[19:20:31] <janrinok> np thx to you both
[19:20:23] <mrcoolbp> I might do some work on it later too, but I gotta run out in a few
[19:20:00] <janrinok> k
[19:18:49] <n1> i'll move it to tomorrow evening but not to display, after checking it over if you want to add more tomorrow
[19:18:00] <janrinok> OK, if you change it fine, if not I'll look at putting out sometime tomorrow.
[19:17:31] <n1> when i get in the editing flow shortly, i will take a closer look
[19:17:25] <janrinok> except I must add more about ciri - it does so much that I didn't know about
[19:16:57] <n1> just tidying up what is there, but doesnt really need anything more to it
[19:16:29] <n1> yeah
[19:16:23] <mrcoolbp> needa make some corrections to the wording as some of it is copypasta from crutchy's stream-o-conciousness stuff
[19:14:42] <n1> there's enough information there, easy to read and find something that might be relevant to you/them/whoever
[19:14:09] <n1> i dont think it can be expanded on that much really
[19:13:48] * mrcoolbp takes a look
[19:13:27] <janrinok> I'd like to get it out before weekend so, if you have any bright ideas, I would love to hear them
[19:12:56] <n1> i have looked at it, but only in passing to be honest
[19:12:22] <janrinok> I'm not sure where to go with it now. A sort of 'so what?' moment
[19:11:54] <janrinok> have you looked at it at all?
[19:11:34] <n1> i'm interested in what the response will be to the article
[19:11:13] <janrinok> I might unquiet ciri and have a play sometime
[19:10:38] <n1> oh indeed, they can be very useful
[19:10:13] <janrinok> no, I think it is brilliant. But if you don't know that they are there you can't use them
[19:09:38] <n1> but i appreciate why we have so many and i dont mind it in a soylentnews context at all
[19:09:19] <n1> i have never been a big fan of irc bots
[19:07:19] <janrinok> lol
[19:07:13] <n1> it can do those things, but i'm sure the actual purpose is to annoy people.
[19:07:12] <janrinok> I'm not sure if it is just me that didn't know this stuff, or whether it just hasn't been promulgated anywhere near as much as it should have been.
[19:06:04] <janrinok> I thought ciri's purpose was to annoy people - it is a very powerful bot! Unit conversions for weight, distances, temperatures, country codes, googling, scrabble, weather, etc
[19:05:03] <n1> or not recently
[19:04:58] <n1> cant say i have
[19:04:48] <janrinok> have you ever looked at the bot page in the wiki?
[19:04:32] <janrinok> hi nick
[19:04:28] <n1> wb janrinok
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[16:56:34] <Bytram> YAY!
[16:56:10] <n1> has been quite a productive last couple weeks
[16:56:00] <n1> yeah, being more positive at the moment
[16:54:50] <Bytram> great! glad to 'hear' it!
[16:54:39] <Bytram> back
[16:52:18] <n1> things are good here
[16:51:00] * Bytram needs to drain some coffee... back in a few minutes
[16:50:25] <Bytram> yeah. tired, but good. u?
[16:50:13] <Bytram> nobody was working on it while I was doing updates... and I kept looking... until I hit update and then saw he'd been at it for 8 minutes. :/
[16:49:59] <n1> you all good?
[16:49:56] <n1> np
[16:49:41] <Bytram> thanks!
[16:49:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:49:21] <n1> he was/is considering working on it after dinner as i understand
[16:48:34] <Bytram> n1: thanks for the info!
[16:48:32] <n1> think he was just looking at it
[16:48:27] <Bytram> janrinok|afk: I've hit 'back' in my browser so I still have a copy of the changes I made... hope it didn't affect your work!
[16:47:57] <Bytram> I was working on your bot story for a while and saved some changes I'd made... then I noticed that you were on the story, too.
[16:47:38] <n1> he's making dinner
[16:47:22] <Bytram> janrinok|afk: ping!
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[16:39:10] <janrinok> laters
[16:39:05] <n1> ok, until then :)
[16:38:44] <janrinok> anyway - time to go prepare a meal for S, be back in an hour or two.
[16:38:18] <janrinok> I'll probably try to get to bed early tonight - but not sure if it will do any good.
[16:37:43] <n1> teamwork!
[16:36:47] <janrinok> thx - that would be helpful. If the bot info has been updated I'll do a bit more on that story, otherwise I might enjoy doing some programming tonight
[16:22:41] <n1> will try and get it to about the same place as i did for tuesday
[16:22:19] <n1> janrinok, i'm good for taking over the stories queue this evening from where you finished
[16:21:37] <n1> smoke break for me, then paperwork bullshit :|
[16:20:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> back to watchin SHIELD then and writing up an error message after.
[16:19:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, yeah. if it's not i'll go on a rampage later.
[16:17:54] <n1> should that be enough?
[16:17:51] <n1> used points up again
[16:12:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> memcached maybe, who knows.
[16:12:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, prolly just a caching issue
[16:12:26] <janrinok> showing up here too
[16:12:08] <n1> showing up*
[16:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> bounced
[16:12:05] <n1> theyre showin gup now
[16:11:47] <n1> admins can get new points but normal users and editors don't?
[16:11:29] <n1> difference between user levels causing it perhaps?
[16:11:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll bounce the server n varnish real quick i guess.
[16:10:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, done this many times before
[16:10:35] <n1> rule*
[16:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be a slashbox on the right saying you got blah blah mod points use em or lose em
[16:10:29] <n1> maybe there something stopping them showing up because of the 24hr normal rue?
[16:10:29] <janrinok> no 1 point only
[16:10:22] <janrinok> Seen!
[16:10:13] <janrinok> I don't even know where to look for them =( I don't usually moderate
[16:09:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. dunno what to tell ya cause the db shows you with 5
[16:09:42] <n1> still none showing up for me, signed out and back in just to check that
[16:09:32] <n1> yeah
[16:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> you using the n1 nick?
[16:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> db shows he has 5
[16:08:32] <n1> any new modpoints showing up for you, janrinok?
[16:08:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> restarted varnish just to check that's not it
[16:08:00] <janrinok> I love the Touchè on dev
[16:07:46] <n1> nope
[16:07:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> reran it, give a refresh again
[16:06:52] <n1> refreshed a few times now
[16:06:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[16:06:36] <n1> still hasnt
[16:06:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> should have already
[16:03:07] <n1> waiting for the points to come through
[16:02:41] <janrinok> ah OK tmb
[16:02:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[16:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure
[16:01:47] <n1> refresh the mod points so i can do some more?
[16:01:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> he just needed a mess of "valid" mods to see if his algorithm is able to sort out the bomb from the rest
[16:00:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're not looking to push the system as much as we are having enough recent moderations to theoretically hide a mod-bomb
[15:59:37] <n1> ive used all my mod points but can still post some more randomness
[15:59:16] <n1> thats what i was thinking
[15:59:08] <janrinok> we have enough people trying to mod the live system ;)
[15:58:40] <janrinok> yep
[15:58:27] <n1> on dev?
[15:56:43] <janrinok> we need more comments on the test story and more moderators. I've modded on each of the available comments, and there aren't enough of us to really push the system are there?
[15:49:28] <janrinok> lo9l
[15:49:22] <mrcoolbp> = )
[15:49:18] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: this time it was my fault
[15:47:33] <janrinok> be gentle with me - I'm lacking in sleep and intelligence....
[15:46:46] <mrcoolbp> shows me for responding to pings
[15:42:35] <janrinok> gotcha, OK
[15:42:19] * janrinok wanders away confused
[15:42:15] <n1> yeah it was a while ago, mrcoolbp is just catching up i think
[15:42:12] <janrinok> ah
[15:42:05] <Subsentient> janrinok: Already signed off I know
[15:41:54] <janrinok> Subsentient: it was signed off by n1 at 12:28 UTC. Have you updated your stories page recently?
[15:39:11] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03Error
[15:39:11] <Subsentient> janrinok: http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:56] <Subsentient> janrinok: I did one
[15:38:24] <janrinok> Subsentient: a signoff? on which story?
[15:37:09] <Subsentient> yeh
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[15:34:32] <mrcoolbp> oh you were just looking for a second ed signoff methinks
[15:34:15] <Subsentient> ?
[15:34:14] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Hmm//
[15:33:54] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: what am I looking for here?
[15:33:19] <n1> i dont like it so much at 3-4am when i'm struggling to stay awake heh
[15:32:32] <n1> but also, i like that they have high standards and expectations for us
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[15:30:37] <n1> mainstream news sites with real resources make bigger fuckups than that when pushing through stories.
[15:30:06] <n1> people are right to call us out on things, but at the same time we dont have the time or resources
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[15:28:54] <n1> it is worth noting
[15:27:25] <janrinok> lol - go for it
[15:27:11] <n1> im going to mod your mwc reply up
[15:25:54] <janrinok> the MWC story is where I explained that there are only 2 experienced eds covering 24hrs a day, 7/365
[15:25:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> take it as a compliment, means you're not pushing an agenda.
[15:25:03] <n1> at least it hasnt been modded +5 insightful
[15:24:35] <janrinok> lol
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[15:24:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> you intruded on someone's echo chamber
[15:23:49] <janrinok> so do I, but perhaps it depends on one's politics
[15:23:39] <n1> and another commenter seems to agree with me
[15:23:33] <n1> its an important story i'd think
[15:23:19] <n1> really dont get why that post is there
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[15:22:15] <janrinok> not a big problem but if people don't like the story they can either submit a better one or join us here and help out ;)
[15:20:26] <janrinok> wrong story - its the Clinton story
[15:19:58] * n1 goes to look
[15:19:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> which story, i'll go see if there's anyone needs kicked in the nuts
[15:19:21] <janrinok> yes - the Mobile World Congress story. I can't link it, its on the other computer
[15:18:44] <n1> oh?
[15:18:21] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[15:17:57] <janrinok> n1: and I'm being given the hard time on a thread now - I suspect that someone is out to piss off the eds
[15:14:55] <n1> and im back
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[12:30:26] <n1> we generally aim for stories each 60-90mins during the day, push it to 120mins over night when we are low on subs
[12:29:05] <n1> i brought it forward half an hour
[12:28:52] <Subsentient> n1: Timing, from what to what?
[12:28:34] <n1> Subsentient, seems great to me; have signed off on it. Changed the timing but otherwise, no problems that i saw.
[12:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[12:23:50] <n1> mornin'
[12:23:47] * n1 grumbles
[11:55:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Error
[11:55:22] <Subsentient> n1: mrcoolbp: One of you wanna take a look at this? http://soylentnews.org
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[04:06:31] <n1> you guys...
[04:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> /nick charliebrown
[04:05:53] <Bytram> why is everybody pecan on me?
[04:05:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't, it's the neighbor's tree.
[04:05:31] <Bytram> well then, it's very simple, move the tree!
[04:05:12] <Bytram> SNORT!
[04:04:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> think that's bad? it's parked under a pecan tree. every fall it's kerblam, kerblam, kerblam.
[04:04:07] <Bytram> does it have a metal roof? might get a bit noisy in an ice storm.
[04:03:48] <Bytram> that'll help.
[04:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i got a travel trailer with oh 24h of battery lights or so.
[04:02:51] <n1> lol
[04:02:47] <Bytram> do you have any of dem kandewels, too?
[04:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> not worried about it if i lose power. i got these pre-computer things you can read even when the power's out. bewks or some such i think they're called.
[04:01:22] <Bytram> ROFL!
[04:01:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> never use em. fed-ex ftw.
[04:00:21] <Bytram> make sure your UPS is fully charged
[04:00:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we're bout to get an ice storm. fun fun.
[03:59:59] * Bytram is NOT tired, nosiree bob
[03:59:44] * Bytram put in an 11hr day yesterday and another long one today... and it's snowing, again.
[03:59:10] <Bytram> LOL
[03:59:02] <n1> you'd think it was late in the day or something
[03:58:52] <Bytram> I see it now.
[03:58:48] <Bytram> I had just noticed it, too.
[03:58:34] <Bytram> s/mit/hit/
[03:58:29] <Bytram> :(
[03:58:28] <Bytram> helps if I mit the submit button.
[03:58:15] * Bytram checks
[03:58:02] <n1> i dont see the story in the queue?
[03:57:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:57:39] <n1> being no doubt in the worst possible place for it to happen
[03:57:27] <n1> thats the worry i have when i do leave it behind, not at that point having it helps that much sometimes
[03:57:11] <Bytram> /dev/nul ftw
[03:56:20] <n1> although i should just set up my pbx to avoid calls getting to me
[03:56:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's... well it's an acquired taste. i don't miss having one at all until i get a flat or something.
[03:55:16] <n1> i miss being able to leave it behind
[03:53:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> had one but it rang while i was fishing years ago and i threw it in the lake.
[03:53:10] <n1> i tip my hat to you sir
[03:52:40] <n1> nice
[03:52:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't bug me none. i don't have a cellphone.
[03:51:00] <n1> generally
[03:50:57] <n1> i wonder how big this is going to be
[03:48:54] <Bytram> gives us a couple minutes just incase
[03:48:47] * Bytram sets release time to: 3:52
[03:48:23] <n1> cool
[03:47:48] * Bytram hits preview
[03:47:44] <Bytram> I'm going with that one
[03:47:20] <Bytram> from the irregulation dept.
[03:47:17] <Bytram> from the irregulation dsept.
[03:45:48] <Bytram> any quick ideas on a dept?
[03:45:08] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:45:06] <n1> but otherwise seems good
[03:45:02] <n1> only have breaking in headline
[03:44:29] <Bytram> n1: Looks okay as submitted.... do you agree?
[03:43:11] <Bytram> n1: I'm on it
[03:42:59] <n1> im sure thats against the rules
[03:42:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i was cheating and reading it before it went live
[03:42:19] <n1> i just saw you were looking at the story is all ;)
[03:42:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> heck no, i only got edity powers cause it comes with adminy powers
[03:41:20] <n1> TheMightyBuzzard, are you doing the 'breaking news'?
[03:40:59] <Bytram> I barely grok it myself; I think we'rew pretty much safe... just watch out for Named Character Entities like 'é'
[03:40:08] <n1> Bytram, is there anything i should watch out for as a result of this?
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[03:35:36] <n1> im not going to try lol
[03:34:21] <Bytram> (try saying that three times fast!)
[03:34:12] <Bytram> it's not THAT bad, but it opens up, umm, pandora's box of additional potential nefariousness
[03:33:48] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN comment by martyb (76)
[03:33:48] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[03:32:50] <n1> :/
[03:25:01] <Bytram> :/
[03:24:58] * Bytram just found an oversight in the UTF-8 implementation on our site
[03:24:37] <Bytram> g'day!
[03:23:48] <n1> hey Bytram
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[02:01:16] <n1> for the story
[02:01:11] <n1> who put the irc bot info together?
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